I thought this sounded familiar - it reminded me of seeing her opera L'Amour de Loin four years back (the plot of which took place almost entirely on water). I looked into the history of the two pieces, and learned that she composed them at the same time, and ended up incorporating Oltra Mar into the larger musical form of the opera. It was an effective combination. These moments were wonderfully staged, too, and in a way that complemented the music. What a pleasure to find this piece uploaded to UA-cam.
One could say that, structurally, this work is not that different from RVW's Sea Symphony, with its Whitman theme of grand exploration toward the unknown, or a number of classical works on exploration, including The Voyage, by Philip Glass. But Saariaho's was conceived with the new millennium in mind. And that temporal dimension is what makes this work so original! "Le temps!" "Le temps!"
The music is incredible-sounding, moving, complex, frightening and interesting. AND NOT JUST FOR A WOMAN. This is art; it's food for the mind. I wish folks (esp. you men out there) would judge the work without interpreting it through the spaghetti strainer of "she's a she."
Facing a composer as prolific and exciting, some, fearing seem naive, they say that music is a collection of cliches. In fact, Kaija Saariaho is truly one of the 4 or 5 greatest women composers in music history.
Correction she is one of "the 4 or 5 greatest" composers in music history :) women in composition need to part of the vernacular, the more we include these names can we finally give them the credence they deserve.
@@danieljeong7357 Interesting that you replied vis-a-vis my comment and not the original post. Happy for you to be hung-up on my syntax. I was merely commenting on the fact the original comment specific that she was one of 4 or 5 greatest women composers - which is simply untrue and indeed sexist (5 in history, come on!). If Leonardo felt she was such a great composer (out of 5**) then I rephrased his comment to just state "composers" (5 women composers in inaccurate). My commenting does not mean I agree with the aforementioned. The second half of the comment was merely to state that there are many more women composers out there and to pigeon hole 4-5 is reductive.
As a woman who feels strongly that women should be more respected in the arts, I want so much to like this. But, I find it boring, irritating even.So same-y. Loud, quiet bang. Silence. I react in the same way to Abstract Expressionism.. Where is the humanity ? The mighty elephant matriarchies ?
Poemsapennyeach Well, this whole piece is one process that's divided to seven parts, they're not independent. Saariaho is quite an elite when it comes to the main composers in our time, if it helps :) Liking it is just a matter of taste.
I don't think gender should ever influence the way you "like" or "dislike" something because isn't that basic sexism? Saying you believe women should be more respected in the arts then backtracking by basing your preference on her gender undermines the incredible work Saariaho has produced as a composer! In the end whether or not you like this piece has nothing to do with her gender, don't make it about that.
Yeah I do think men tend to dismiss a certain type of ladies in music schools and music industry in many parts of the world..but what can we do, the world's a shithole and we just linger on, renaissance was and is still a lie..I hope something would change very soon
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Rest in Power Kaija Saariaho (1952-2023).
Very subtle writing indeed. Impossible not to be astonished by this masterwork.
Une très grande .....immense compositrice
I thought this sounded familiar - it reminded me of seeing her opera L'Amour de Loin four years back (the plot of which took place almost entirely on water). I looked into the history of the two pieces, and learned that she composed them at the same time, and ended up incorporating Oltra Mar into the larger musical form of the opera. It was an effective combination. These moments were wonderfully staged, too, and in a way that complemented the music. What a pleasure to find this piece uploaded to UA-cam.
Fantastico
Perfect music.
Brilliant!
A wonderful and energetic piece, I wish I could go back in time to see the world premiere ^_^
May she rest in peace.
great
Paljon on kuorolla laulettavaa tässä Saariahon hienossa teoksessa.
One could say that, structurally, this work is not that different from RVW's Sea Symphony, with its Whitman theme of grand exploration toward the unknown, or a number of classical works on exploration, including The Voyage, by Philip Glass. But Saariaho's was conceived with the new millennium in mind. And that temporal dimension is what makes this work so original! "Le temps!" "Le temps!"
The music is incredible-sounding, moving, complex, frightening and interesting. AND NOT JUST FOR A WOMAN. This is art; it's food for the mind. I wish folks (esp. you men out there) would judge the work without interpreting it through the spaghetti strainer of "she's a she."
Facing a composer as prolific and exciting, some, fearing seem naive, they say that music is a collection of cliches. In fact, Kaija Saariaho is truly one of the 4 or 5 greatest women composers in music history.
Correction she is one of "the 4 or 5 greatest" composers in music history :) women in composition need to part of the vernacular, the more we include these names can we finally give them the credence they deserve.
@@danieljeong7357 Interesting that you replied vis-a-vis my comment and not the original post. Happy for you to be hung-up on my syntax. I was merely commenting on the fact the original comment specific that she was one of 4 or 5 greatest women composers - which is simply untrue and indeed sexist (5 in history, come on!). If Leonardo felt she was such a great composer (out of 5**) then I rephrased his comment to just state "composers" (5 women composers in inaccurate). My commenting does not mean I agree with the aforementioned. The second half of the comment was merely to state that there are many more women composers out there and to pigeon hole 4-5 is reductive.
@@danieljeong7357 You seem quite triggered over a comment on UA-cam. This is quite entertaining.
@@AT-py7wx keeps things interesting to read. Not quite as exciting as the door of the dog William Buckley debates, but still interesting.
@@AT-py7wx This is quite normal.
9:00 Why do I hear 2001 here, the beginning, seriously. Am i alone
notável!
As a woman who feels strongly that women should be more respected in the arts, I want so much to like this. But, I find it boring, irritating even.So same-y. Loud, quiet bang. Silence. I react in the same way to Abstract Expressionism.. Where is the humanity ? The mighty elephant matriarchies ?
Poemsapennyeach Well, this whole piece is one process that's divided to seven parts, they're not independent. Saariaho is quite an elite when it comes to the main composers in our time, if it helps :) Liking it is just a matter of taste.
This one is very impressionist compared to many of her other more extravagant works I've heard (that I prefer more)
I don't think gender should ever influence the way you "like" or "dislike" something because isn't that basic sexism? Saying you believe women should be more respected in the arts then backtracking by basing your preference on her gender undermines the incredible work Saariaho has produced as a composer! In the end whether or not you like this piece has nothing to do with her gender, don't make it about that.
Yeah I do think men tend to dismiss a certain type of ladies in music schools and music industry in many parts of the world..but what can we do, the world's a shithole and we just linger on, renaissance was and is still a lie..I hope something would change very soon
Its there, you're just illiterate.