*_"When I thought you had been taken away from me forever, I couldn't even let myself start to grieve because I thought it would never end."_* No one touches me more deeply with their line deliveries than Susan Flannery. That was so beautiful and heartfelt.
James: This issue is not about the children. The children have nothing to lose. Brooke: this conversation is over, James…I want you to leave. Therapy session is OVER!
Let me interrupt the discussion: Brooke; James you hit the nail on the head you are right in what you’re saying and I don’t want to hear it again…please leave.😉😛
*Stephanie Takes Taylor’s Side* It’s no surprise that Stephanie is back on Taylor’s side and it represents another instance where she is trying to balance the plot. I’ve written before how in the Bill Bell writing regime, the Stephanie/Brooke feud was well-balanced: Taylor (Stephanie’s proxy) had Ridge while Brooke had the children and the company. As the show's main Storyteller, Stephanie is often tasked with maintaining and restoring that balance. Note how she calls Brooke "a manipulator" and calls Taylor her daughter, as if she she's trying to put the pieces of Bill Bell's story structure back into place. Also note when she said, "Brooke used the company and her children to carve a place in my family" (12:40) thus explicitly making my argument that she views these things - Ridge, the company, the children - as _leverage_ in her balance of power rivalry with Brooke. Stephanie is trying to redistribute the weight on the scale: if Brooke has the children and the company on one side, then Stephanie needs to put Taylor and Ridge back together on the other side. In episode 1905, I wrote about how under Brad Bell’s writing regime, the plot was becoming unbalanced with Brooke winning too much (she had the children, the company _and_ Ridge) thus making her character and feud with Stephanie less interesting. In episode 1973, I argued that Stephanie’s attempt to regain the stock in exchange for accepting Brooke into the family was an attempt to regain some leverage and re-balance the scales. And now that that deal has fallen apart, Stephanie is once again attempting to put weight back on her side by taking Taylor’s side and taking Ridge away from Brooke.
Yes, exactly! I have to say, I was watching the Taylor and Brooke scenes very closely today because I'm really trying to keep an objective and cool mind, to avoid watching the show with "Brooke-colored glasses" or "Taylor-colored glasses", and not to get caught in the discussion of Taylor vs Brooke which has been very animated lately, and I read these scenes exactly as you did. For some time, the show has been leaning towards the Brooke side, and today, it felt like the show (using Stephanie as a "spokesperson") was balancing the scales in the other direction, trying to re-establish the "role distribution" from the Bill Bell days. A few days ago (around the time of the press conference), Taylor was the one coming across as unreliable, and today she seems like her "old self" while Brooke is the one who comes across as less reliable by refusing to examine the problem from other points of view than her own. And yet there is still that "glitchiness" of archetype vs role - Brooke does have a "family" with Ridge _because Ridge thinks so,_ and he will actually end up choosing that family over Taylor, so Brooke isn't actually "the other woman" in this scenario even though her behavior today was the same as during the time when she _was_ "the other woman". On the other hand, Taylor comes across as a lot stronger and more like her old self when she is focused on getting back the _non-Ridge_ aspects of her life, like her relationship with Stephanie for example, because for the longest time it seemed like her every decision was based on Ridge. The problem is that the current "balance" leaves both Taylor and Brooke with very little to do. Brooke as "the wife" doesn't have full access to her main character trait which is being competitive, and Taylor as "the outsider" struggles to stay relevant because she can't fill the role as Stephanie's proxy unless she is positioned right in the middle of things.
Wow Annie! This is so wonderful. I love the way you and Nick make me really think about these things that maybe I have not fully been aware of! @@annieo6527 🥰🥰
It was always so frustrating to me that nobody ever dropped a truth bomb reminder on Brooke's head that Eric is Little Eric's father, ugh. Looking forward to watching the episodes again where the truth about Bridget's true paternity is revealed. Brooke is exhausting with her obsession of Ridge.😬😬
Don't worry, when Rick is SORASed into a ten year-old, Eric will finally have to step up and be an actual father. Funny to think how years later, Ridge and Rick will be mortal enemies. Ridge will be disgusted that he ever saw himself as a father figure to Rick.
The problem is that Brooke's definition of "family" (like her definition of "marriage") is relative. She often claims that marriages that are not convenient to her are not "real marriages".
"I guess it's just that I was expecting so much of you." Stephanie puts into words perfectly the Good Girl dilemma - how we actually _are_ expecting more of the Good Girls, meaning they are judged more harshly when they fail to live up to their own high standards, while a Bad Girl never has this problem because they don't come with these expectations.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, and there are two layers to this - the "in-universe" standards imposed on the Good Girl by _other characters,_ and the expectations of the _viewers_ regarding what a Good Girl can and cannot do without slipping out of character. Interestingly, the perceptions of the _characters_ and the _viewers_ regarding who is and isn't a Good Girl usually overlap, but they aren't identical (that is, showing vs telling vs showing _and_ telling).
Yes. That was the exact dilemma of "good girl" Caroline, too... It places way too many restrictions on someone who just can't live under the weight of everyone else's expectations.
*_"You're my daughter and best friend rolled into one."_* Hey that's just like Brooke. She has her stepson and husband rolled into one! 😂 And poor Eric Jr is Bridget's brother and uncle rolled into one. 🥴
@@annieo6527wow I never even looked at it like that. This whole family needs therapy. Between ridge marrying his siblings mother, who was also his former stepmother, little Eric and Bridget being siblings and uncle and niece, Brooke being her own kids sister in law, the kids calling their other brother “uncle Thorne”
Finally, Stephanie is saying that Brooke only using the stock as leverage without holding up her end of the bargain. Brooke never meant to give the stock back.
If Brooke really cared about her children as she claims, she would not have married her son's brother. That is not good for him and it's proven over and over again as little Eric grows up and becomes Rick. He shoots Grant because of all the trauma of the extremely dysfunctional environment Brooke raised him in.
I never understood how Eric manages to be free from having to be a father to the children, at least to Eric Jr. it’s always about Ridge in the father role. There’s a gaping hole in this storyline.
That's Brooke's fault.. She froze Eric out so ridge could be his father. Which is why Rick begins to act out as he gets older he misses Eric as his father
Eric was pushed a side by Brooke, but also has decided to stay away and let "his eldest son" be the father of his children. He will often push Rigde to consider his siblings wether or not he leaves Brooke. He lets himself pushed aside and also needs his free time to chase the next bimbo. He was always an abstenee father to all his children. That is a choice.
At least Brooke never tried to murder people in cold blood and leave them for dead in their living room. At least Brooke never purchased a baby illegally on the black market to gift to her daughter. Brooke is a woman who will always try and keep her husband, which is perfectly normal. Ridge married Brooke after Taylor died. Taylor then went out and married a prince when she didn’t need too. Taylor gave up every right to her marriage to Ridge in that moment. I don’t care if Taylor thinks she was manipulated into marrying Omar. She still did it. She gave up every right to Ridge the moment she signed her name on her marriage certificate with Omar.
Brooke can't stand that James has a good point about the children.. Who.. BTW.. Aren't even Ridge's 😂 Then she tells him he is in denial about the reality 😂😂... When in fact, Ridge is actually married to Taylor legally. Then she puts him out bc he isn't echoing her. So much for therapy...
Poor James trying to get through Brooke's self-serving logic and circular reasoning. He must feel like he's listening to the audio exhibit in a men t a l competency hearing.
Stephanie: Brooke is what she is. she’s a manipulator…she’s used the control of the company and the children. 2 reasons, there are more, why Brooke is not a sympathetic character. She’s a schemer.
But, remember, Brooke’s a world renowned scientist…Bahahahahaha!! Viewers never bought that plot device. 🥴 s l u t from the valley, yes. Brilliant woman, no.
A functioning family with two children and a husband and a wife... But Brooke still wanted to tear apart Taylor's family with three children a husband and a wife (before her second death).
Which happens on the future, the same kind of curiosity Taylor is showing right now in not wanting to rip apart Brooke and Ridge’s family in wanting her husband back?
*Will Ridge Choose Brooke Because of the Children?* It IS interesting how many times "the children" are invoked in this episode. Not just (LOL) by Brooke but by Stephanie and Taylor and _even_ James. That last one is important because James really is trying to find common ground between the two sides, and he's a reliable narrator who's been involved with both Taylor and Brooke so he has some credit with the viewer in this scenario. And his rhetorical scenario ("What if there were no children?") implies that Brooke's hold on Ridge _may not_ be as strong if she didn't have the kids. Ever since Taylor returned, I've felt the show has made it obvious that Ridge will choose Brooke and has given TRIDGE fans next to nothing, but this is the first time it feels like the show is throwing them a b one. Ridge loves both women so it's just a matter of who he chooses to marry or stay married to, and the implication here is that this time he might choose Brooke because of the children.
Really! I'm rewatching these episodes after decades and only just realizing how ridiculously many times "the children" is mentioned. A lot of Brooke fans will never accept that the children were the deciding factor but boy the signs are loud and clear!
@@Esi-741 yesterday I was telling Nick that Ridge was prolly made to choose 🔔 hopper so the paternity reveal could be 'edge of your seat'. HT leaving for MP might have been a contributing factor. Side note: I know you had reservations about her joining MP 😂
HT leaving for MP seemed to forever lower Taylor’s place in the B and B world. Also, She probably wasn’t as obsequious as KKL. I read that HT pushed back at times.
Yes, I agree with you. Right now it looks like the children are front and center for Brooke as the reason for Ridge to stay with her? Taylor must be feeling encouraged by the things Steph said to her about Brooke and Ridge. Steph has taken sides…with Taylor. Not sure what James was suggesting…that they can all be friends? Brooke seems to be the one who feels threatened? She has good reason to feel that way…in today’s episode. James approach made her feel that he supports Taylor? We saw the scenes between Taylor and Steph bonding…and Steph expressing support for Taylor and Ridge. Brooke is worried that her perfect family is being threatened. It really is all in the hands of the writers as to how this storyline proceeds…🤷♀️ There is always blame to go around for who did what when? I appreciate the way you and annie break it down for us. You both do a great job. 👏👏👏
And years earlier, she sleeps with a married man and her mothers (ex) lover, than when she marries him and sleeps with his son and goes again after a married man. The level of hypocrital entitelment, obession and delusional is really blowing my mind. And than many years later she goes after her daughters husband/finace/boyfriend and her sisters husband.
Sleeps with Stephanie's husband, tries to sleep with Taylor's husband, sleeps with Macy's husband, sleeps with her sister's husband 🙄....... goes on and on
She also tried to seduce Ridge whist he was drunk (and unable to consent) because she found out Taylor was pregnant. Fortunately for her Ridge came to his senses before they went the whole way (or she would be guilty of far worse) but not before Taylor found them in bed together. I mean, can you imagine if Taylor tried such a thing?!?
Maggie's POV is weird - _a 18 year old has no business being out on her own_ - when she (and John) had sent a 16 year old on her own to LA and then let relatives raise Jessica for a year.
the recent scenes between Steph and Taylor clearly show that Steph's love for Taylor was genuine and not because she loathed Brooke as writing post 2005 depicted
Dylan has better chemistry with literally everyone else other than Jessica. Jessica is like that grey cloud that shows up in cartoons over a character when they are unlucky.
So, James, the first session didn't go well. There's no space for objectivity with Brooke. But Brooke showed us that it doesn't matter who Ridge loves the most. As soon as he talks about a choice between only Taylor and Brooke, Brooke got insecure.
Brooke Logan could give a master class on How to Be a Hypocrite. 😂 She spent a majority of her time trying to break up the Tridge marriage and continued to attempt to break up their family in the late 90s and early 2000s. Girl hush. 🤦🏾♀️😂
thank God the good people are standing up together Stephanie and Taylor, james and Taylor good people back good causes and Taylor needs her hsband back and he needs her so much more than what he realizes also
_"She's gotten more mileage out of that stock than it's worth"_ - Stephanie is speaking on behalf of the view 12:58 She's exasperated because Brooke's been dangling the company like a carrot 🥕 since episode 1960. Stephanie takes Taylor's side no matter the outcome. Steph is a traditionalist to the core (cc Nick) and that'll take precedence over the FC stock. She made clear to where she stands in episode 1709, but of course Brooke will act surprised because she doesn't listen. She painted a picture for Brooke (episode 1709): *What do you think you're going to do **_intimidate_** me by waving a few shares of Forester stock in my face* (16:55) *let me tell you how much my son's marriage means to me I would sacrifice Forrester Creations to save it if I had to* (17:12)
Which is why when ppl keep saying she's a great CEO just bc an already wildly successful company didn't go bust under her, I roll my eyes. All that company meant to her was a means of keeping one foot in the Forrester door, and the other foot on Steph's neck. That's not the mark of a great (or even reasonably good) CEO. She uses and will continue to use the company stock just like she uses those kids of hers.
@@TriniT21ITA... Ridge himself told her an idiot can run FC with him and his dad around. You have nicely explained that she took over a company which was and still is a Going Concern. Meanwhile *NOT* Brooke saying she has a functioning family 😂 3:21
Stephanie repeats this very sentiment when Brooke again offer's up the stock if Stephanie will help Brooke win Ridge back after she gets caught by Ridge kissing Grant in season 10, I think. Stephanie then I think remembers this go around with Brooke dangling the stock and she calls Brooke on her bluff and asks her when. When you get back together, when you get engaged or do I not get the shares until Ridge marries you. Something to that affect and Brooke can't give her an answer. She then tells Brooke she would never use the company stock as a bargaining chip for Ridge's happiness. She calls Brooke out as a user, who only uses people to get what she wants. She will use the stock, the kids and anything else she can to justify what she wants.
Here in Melbourne, Australia, my mum was paying $150 a month for mortgage on her 3 bedroom house that she purchased in 1976. She finally finished paying off her mortgage back in 2020 at the age of 73.
I don't get Maggie. She put the burden for a year on Stephanie and Eric, wasn't involved at all in the legal drama (have they even informed her) but now she acts as if that has never happened at all and as if Maggie is the only one deciding about Jessica's future.
Brooke would give one of her children (most likely Eric Jr) to get Steph to say even half of what she said to Taylor 😂 I love that she thought Steph was Team Brooke.. Lol.. NOT And I'm glad Steph pointed out that everyone will be on Brooke's side... At least she recognises this inexplicable behaviour of her male family to just give Brooke leeway and a pass for everything.
"most likely Eric Jr" 😂😂 This reminds me of when Stephanie praised Macy at her sobriety party and *Ministry* said Brooke would k ill for that kind of acceptance from the Queen.
Brooke would definitley give all of Eric's brats and all her other relatives and her life to hear Steph say just one setence of what she said to Taylor. 😅 LOL, but never.
So right, Trish. I think of how Brooke stood up to Sheila to profess her devotion to Steph and Forester Family. You’ll have to kill me… Always trying to get on Stephanie’s good side. Stephanie not impressed.
@@z-5reader939 Not Steph basically dropping Brooke after she tried to win brownie points by pretending she'd take a bullet 😂😂 (good thing she didn't actually have to, bc she'd hold that over Steph's head begging for gratitude for the rest of all their lives). But I knew Steph wasn't fooled by the gesture...her face said it all lol. Brooke has basically hated Steph for always seeing her for who she really is. And Steph always knows exactly who she's dealing with when it comes to Brooke. She allowed one tiny leeway when she thought Brooke was genuinely going to give her the stock back... That mistake is never goin to happen again.
@@TriniT21 Brooke: *_tries to win Stephanie's sympathies by offering to take a bullet for her_* Eric: *_hides from the bullet behind Stephanie and still has her undying love and loyalty_*
Jessica has a scholarship to USC and Maggie talking about Community College😂😂!! And, Maggie talked about her other daughter so she still has a kid at home....why is she trying to control grown Jessica after abandoning her?? Darla has it bad for Dylan....but she also liked Bill Sr. and Connor....they don't ever let her have a man🤨
So, Maggie is in Stephanie's guesthouse. That means Eric is back to his dungeon and looking for the next young thing he can play with in the basement. 😅😂😝🤪🤢
Great point! Stephanie has never had that type of relationship with her daughters or Thorne, for that matter. However, she treats Taylor and Ridge with such love and respect. That is a huge problem.
@@staceygash9421a huge problem that she loves Taylor and Ridge? I know it must be hard to see that she never loved Brooke the same way she loved Taylor...😂
@@scor66 A huge problem that her other three children didn't receive the same treatment. And that she didn't have that intimacy with Kristen and Felicia.
Some might like Dylan and Darla, but I can't really deal with their sort of humor. IMO, suddenly Dylan seems even more immature than when he had been with Jessica. 😅 Oh, no. The manager doesn't seem happy either
Unfortunately Dylan is wearing a shirt in today's episode. Even more unfortunate we have to listen to whiny Brooke the eternal drama queen go on and on about her and Ridge's "family."
James, one of those children has already three parents. THe truth is both KIDS are Eric's and he is already the third wheel freely and pushed by Brookes obession, she only can have "real" family with Rigde. She is and will constantly tell her children that for years to come and really messed them up with this. These kids are already messed up, 6:326:33 because they are raised by nannys more than by Brooke and Eric Jr has lost his "real" dad already and he is raised by his half brother. The family Brooke is revering to is built on three broken families (the Forresters, the Logans and Brooke's fam with eric), if we add Taylors marriage with Rigde, than four. But ofc Brooke's family with Rigde is the most important one, it was totally worth and nessicary to break them all, that Brooke can have her obessive, dusty destiny, fantasy dream family. 🤨🤔😖
@andream5998 It is better that she is bringing them up with Ridge though , than with that useless Eric who is only thinking of how to find and marry a woman 30 years younger than him. But here the story of whose the child is, reminds me of a greek tragedy.
@@youlamatou I don't think Rigde was a that much better dad than Eric was. But true, Eric constantly pushed these kids onto Rigde, so he can hopp from woman to woman. Eric and Rigde are both very useless when it comes to raising children, responsiblity, family and thinking and caring for other than themselves.
Brooke is extremely manipulative when it comes to Ridge and he can't see it. He rarely sees the side of Brooke that the women see all the time. When he does see it she manipulates her way out of it by love bombing him.
18.18 Stephanie the greatest manipulator of all , "knows" of course better than anybody else who Ridge loves the most. When will she stop interfere in her son's life ? When will she let him grow up? Isn't that James available for some sessions with Stephanie?
Definitely! Steph and Eric both run Brooke out of town, Brooke didn't deserve that treatment AT ALL! She didn't know a thing about that test! @@sharonstewart4882
Now I've watched 2057 episodes, watching several episodes every day. Bold and the Beautiful - 1995 (S8 E306) FULL EPISODE 2060 These episodes are from 1995. Why do I have to wait for a new episode every day here on UA-cam? Since they are from 1995, I will never finish the entire series as long as I live with only one episode per day. Are we really meant to wait for a new episode every day for years to come?
Stephanie has always been blind to how much Ridge loves Brooke. The storyline had Ridge going back and forth but anyone could see that he loved Brooke the most and the longest.
Well, Steph will come to realize that in years to come. Could be around 2006? Steph will do a 180 and realize after Ridge’s heart attack that her son loves and wants Brooke back. Steph will then use her manipulations to see that Brooke is brought back into Ridge’s orbit…😁
He was happily married to Taylor for four years from 1998. They also had 3 children in that time. I don't remember Ridge and Brooke ever having that sort of relationship.
Stephanie was never blind to how much Ridge loved Brooke. She was fully aware of it as well as everyone else. That's why she fought against them being together for so long and so hard at whatever cost.
Ridge and Brooke's love story spans over 30 years. I don't think any of us really mind giving Taylor four years. We knew during those four years it was still Brooke for Ridge no matter what she did.
In order to save Brooke's family , Taylor should go back to being dead ??!!! ... what kind of logic is this ?! ... and supported by none other than her smart lawyer Connor ?!!
Is Maggie now staying at the guesthouse for good? Or will Taylor "getting her life back" also get that place back, considering that Taylor is Stephanie's daughter of her heart?
I am on team Brooke but I dont like how they have changed her personality. The beginning of the show she was more driven, they have more less consistent now...
12.40 I love what Stephanie says about Brooke, "Brook is a manipulator" but here she doesn't realise that that whst exactly she is too. They are very similar.
@@trevorbayers2175 Agree with you. Taylor has been a manipulator from the beginning…she used her psychiatry to that end. Counseled those whom she said weren’t her patients? 😁
@@trevorbayers2175 I actually believe Taylor is the biggest manipulator of all of them. Brooke and Stephanie are very upfront about who they. Taylor on the other hand is very covert and uses mind games. She has very conflicting personalities. Basically, Good Girl Sydrome. There are so many instances when her true colors come out but she quickly has a psychological reason to explain away her actions aka manipulations.
Stephanie's telling Taylor how she's like a daughter to her (she likes Taylor more than Felicia and Kristen combined) and her best friend, but only a few weeks ago she was raging against her and ordering her to leave town.
She is incredibly ungrateful, she will turn against Brooke twice more, right after Brooke saving/helping to save her life. I wish Brooke didn't even bother with it.
@@marn25 What can one say about Steph? She is every bit the manipulator she accuses Brooke of being. Steph forgets the truth and believes her own lies. And she does that all the time to gain advantage…🤨
…and then fast forward to Taylor with Ridge and their 3 children having the audacity to come at Brooke for trying to take her husband away when it’s the exact behaviour she’s guilty of
Ridge and Brooke belong together every time Taylor comes back she interrupts their happiness and their peace😮 Stephanie hates Brooke so she'll say anything bad against her to Taylor 😮
Agree, they do belong together. It will take awhile though for Ridge and then Brooke to realize that…not till 2007. Really very good dialogue in eppi where Ridge and Brooke are reunited(for the 10th time?). 🥰
*_If you treat people with disrespect it comes back to haunt you_* With Brooke and Stephanie, it really is like *"What came first? The hen or the chicken?"* Stephanie brings up the stock and how Brooke used that to manipulate her, but Brooke ended up with that stock because Stephanie at that time openly disrespected Brooke and even gloated when Stephanie believe that Brooke had signed a backdated contract without reading it/ Eric had hired a lawyer that spied on Brooke while pretending to be a masseur. Stephanie has a reason to loathe Brooke, who ended Stephanie's marriage to Eric, but before that Stephanie has also openly showed Brooke how much she loathes Brooke (eg. when Brooke moved out of Stephanie's house). I have said it before, but their "agreement" was damned from the start, when it had Stephanie only willing to give Brooke another chance because of that stock, but Brooke needing that stock and the schildern to get tolerated by Stephanie as Ridge's wife in the first place (who would love nothing as much as to finally get Brooke out of their life).
and just like that with a little i m sorry and smart Doctor talk Stephanie forgive Taylor who1 day before she wanted away from Ridge? well brooke big mistake to give them back their company
Actually, Steph is the master manipulator who can get both Taylor and Brooke eating out of her hand. Right now Brooke doesn’t know that Steph has become Taylor’s ally in getting Ridge to return to Taylor. 🫤
Jessica has another talk with Maggie with Maggie still determined to take Jessica back to Davenport but Jessica wants to stays where she is. Maggie's life would certainly had looked different had Jessica went back to Davenport with Maggie. Elsewhere in this episode Brooke makes her umpteenth explanation of what family means to me. Well for me family is me with my two wives Barbara Crampton and Kathleen Kinmont. Barbara's name turns up for the first in the end credits of this episode and knowing this fact at the time was certainly useful at that time. This is because Fraternity Vacation came on television not long after that and seeing Barbara's name in the opening credits of this movie ertainly made me stick around and that is how Barbara and Kathleen became my wives. Matthew See Barbara Crampton and Kathleen Kinmont's Chinese Husband
@bettyhopson I don't think anyone realizes why they are pushing "the children" so hard from before the Bridge marriage and years to come. Of course it will turn out that Bridget is not Ridge"s. But he says he stayed for the kids.( Of course he said that cause he thought Brooke was being unfaithful with Grant. So, he is saving face with Taylor after divorcing her. And remember Taylor is the loyal, good angel, until... ) Ridge always loved Brooke regardless. She knew it and so did he but once he found out about Thomas, his life with Taylor was sealed. He kept going back to Brooke emotionally while Taylor was alive and physically when she wasn't. Guess what? Brooke didn't have a child to hold him with. It was only Brooke that Ridge wanted. After, they had Ridge Jr(there's a reason Taylor didn't get to give her son that name) he only left Brooke because of Stephanie manipulations. So, the deeper meaning is that for 20 years, it was ALWAYS Brooke for Ridge, and they didn't have any "children" together.
@@staceygash9421you have to watch that Thomas storyline again because Ridge married Brooke totally on rebound back then, thinking about Taylor the day of their marriage. He was devastated about Taylor "with" Thorne. And during the Grant trial he had eyes only for Taylor.
Stephanie seems to care more for Jessica than her own mother does. But yes, when it concerns little Eric and Bridget, Stephanie had been convinced that the children would just fare as well if an ocean separated them from their dad/s Eric and Ridge. (Sheila, get Brooke on that place). But Stephanie's mantra is that children cope, they don't need their parents (should we care about Thorne?) - except favorite son Ridge.
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 I said that Stephanie 's anger against Taylor wouldn't last long. I think Stephanie and Taylor are more like accomplices than real friends...time will show.
Brooke your marriage to Ridge is invalid because Ridge’s wife Taylor is alive, and Ridge’s wife Taylor committed bigamy. Therefore, Taylor is Ridge’s wife.
Could you imagine if they put Taylor and Dylan together?? 😍😍 Instead they keep him with boring Jessica(who dare I say is almost as boring of a character as Hope was for YEARS).
Lol yea right. Ridge tried to stop Caroline from marrying Thorne and Taylor from marrying Storm but never did anything like that for Brooke. She had to make do with a loooong pre-wedding daydream 😂 And before you say Ridge stopped her from marrying James, well neither Caroline nor Taylor were options at the time.
You are right. Ridge is the one who pursued Brooke and wanted to marry her right away. Steph doesn’t want to admit that Ridge was the one insistent on marrying Brooke so soon after Taylor’s death. 😮
Brooke has always possessed the incredible ability to see things from ONLY her perspective.
We don't give her enough credit for that
Your so right about that
True.. Even worse she's one hell of a hypocrite... She has destroyed so many marriages and yet. Claims there's no justification for destroying hers
Her perspective has a name - it's called "delusion"
@@larryfrazier5925 your so right about that
So glad the Queen decided to forgive Taylor. I love their friendship.
If I hear about those kids that aren't his one more time I'ma scream 😭
Girl me too. I've been screaming! 😖😖😖
You mean “the children” 😂
@@CanadianKid7 😩🤣🤣🤣
I can't wait til the day for Brooke to find out that Bridget isn't Ridge daughter 🤣🤣🤣
that would be a big slap on the face
Me too
When does that happen? In 1996?
@@sbookeyyes
*_"When I thought you had been taken away from me forever, I couldn't even let myself start to grieve because I thought it would never end."_* No one touches me more deeply with their line deliveries than Susan Flannery. That was so beautiful and heartfelt.
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True.. it was too special
A tremendous actress. As far as I'm concerned, the show ended when she left.
It was amazing.
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James: This issue is not about the children. The children have nothing to lose.
Brooke: this conversation is over, James…I want you to leave.
Therapy session is OVER!
It’s 100% about Bridget having both her parents (yeah, I know).
James is right Brooke is only using the children as lavarge because she knows alone she has no weight
Let me interrupt the discussion:
Brooke; James you hit the nail on the head you are right in what you’re saying and I don’t want to hear it again…please leave.😉😛
*Stephanie Takes Taylor’s Side*
It’s no surprise that Stephanie is back on Taylor’s side and it represents another instance where she is trying to balance the plot. I’ve written before how in the Bill Bell writing regime, the Stephanie/Brooke feud was well-balanced: Taylor (Stephanie’s proxy) had Ridge while Brooke had the children and the company. As the show's main Storyteller, Stephanie is often tasked with maintaining and restoring that balance. Note how she calls Brooke "a manipulator" and calls Taylor her daughter, as if she she's trying to put the pieces of Bill Bell's story structure back into place. Also note when she said, "Brooke used the company and her children to carve a place in my family" (12:40) thus explicitly making my argument that she views these things - Ridge, the company, the children - as _leverage_ in her balance of power rivalry with Brooke. Stephanie is trying to redistribute the weight on the scale: if Brooke has the children and the company on one side, then Stephanie needs to put Taylor and Ridge back together on the other side.
In episode 1905, I wrote about how under Brad Bell’s writing regime, the plot was becoming unbalanced with Brooke winning too much (she had the children, the company _and_ Ridge) thus making her character and feud with Stephanie less interesting. In episode 1973, I argued that Stephanie’s attempt to regain the stock in exchange for accepting Brooke into the family was an attempt to regain some leverage and re-balance the scales. And now that that deal has fallen apart, Stephanie is once again attempting to put weight back on her side by taking Taylor’s side and taking Ridge away from Brooke.
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The balance theory…makes sense. Nice!
Yes, exactly!
I have to say, I was watching the Taylor and Brooke scenes very closely today because I'm really trying to keep an objective and cool mind, to avoid watching the show with "Brooke-colored glasses" or "Taylor-colored glasses", and not to get caught in the discussion of Taylor vs Brooke which has been very animated lately, and I read these scenes exactly as you did. For some time, the show has been leaning towards the Brooke side, and today, it felt like the show (using Stephanie as a "spokesperson") was balancing the scales in the other direction, trying to re-establish the "role distribution" from the Bill Bell days.
A few days ago (around the time of the press conference), Taylor was the one coming across as unreliable, and today she seems like her "old self" while Brooke is the one who comes across as less reliable by refusing to examine the problem from other points of view than her own. And yet there is still that "glitchiness" of archetype vs role - Brooke does have a "family" with Ridge _because Ridge thinks so,_ and he will actually end up choosing that family over Taylor, so Brooke isn't actually "the other woman" in this scenario even though her behavior today was the same as during the time when she _was_ "the other woman". On the other hand, Taylor comes across as a lot stronger and more like her old self when she is focused on getting back the _non-Ridge_ aspects of her life, like her relationship with Stephanie for example, because for the longest time it seemed like her every decision was based on Ridge.
The problem is that the current "balance" leaves both Taylor and Brooke with very little to do. Brooke as "the wife" doesn't have full access to her main character trait which is being competitive, and Taylor as "the outsider" struggles to stay relevant because she can't fill the role as Stephanie's proxy unless she is positioned right in the middle of things.
Wow Annie! This is so wonderful. I love the way you and Nick make me really think about these things that maybe I have not fully been aware of! @@annieo6527 🥰🥰
Can Eric swing by and pick up his kids before Brooke and Brad fully retcon them as Ridge's? 🙄
He can pick up his son Ridge too. 😜
😂🤣🤣🤣 "Eric Jnr was conceived from one of Ridge's innocent pranks"
It was always so frustrating to me that nobody ever dropped a truth bomb reminder on Brooke's head that Eric is Little Eric's father, ugh. Looking forward to watching the episodes again where the truth about Bridget's true paternity is revealed. Brooke is exhausting with her obsession of Ridge.😬😬
Don't worry, when Rick is SORASed into a ten year-old, Eric will finally have to step up and be an actual father. Funny to think how years later, Ridge and Rick will be mortal enemies. Ridge will be disgusted that he ever saw himself as a father figure to Rick.
@@leviaj1 Eric will still be passive through all that
Tired of Brooke using her children
Tired of listening to her silly selfish rationales
Tired of looking at her
Me too😂👍
There's no way to make her disappear....sad !!😒
my feelings exactly
Brooke is still here and it's 2024
🤣🤣🤣🤣☺️☺️”Amen”!!!
Did Anyone notice just how quiet Brooke was when James grilled her about IF there was No children around..?? To keep Ridge..
She knew he was right ...cannot be refuted.
She's sooo full of herself 🙄🤣
She is so selfish ..
good old fashioned foreshadowing coming up with that line
The fact that there are people on here that actually defend her and make her out to be a victim is insane
Brooke had me hollaring 😂😂
Is she for real that nobody should break a family apart? But that is her specialty 😂😂
Shoes on the other foot now 😂
Brooke's still wrecking a family keeping Eric away from his kids. 😂
@@kimlambert2127 poor Brooke 🤣😅
The problem is that Brooke's definition of "family" (like her definition of "marriage") is relative. She often claims that marriages that are not convenient to her are not "real marriages".
You will be crying over the saintly Taylor's heartbreak that is about to take place, so no, POOR TAYLOR! @@ambika66681
"I guess it's just that I was expecting so much of you."
Stephanie puts into words perfectly the Good Girl dilemma - how we actually _are_ expecting more of the Good Girls, meaning they are judged more harshly when they fail to live up to their own high standards, while a Bad Girl never has this problem because they don't come with these expectations.
So true. The Good Girl is held to an impossibly high standard which is why she's so constrained and limited in her movement.
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, and there are two layers to this - the "in-universe" standards imposed on the Good Girl by _other characters,_ and the expectations of the _viewers_ regarding what a Good Girl can and cannot do without slipping out of character.
Interestingly, the perceptions of the _characters_ and the _viewers_ regarding who is and isn't a Good Girl usually overlap, but they aren't identical (that is, showing vs telling vs showing _and_ telling).
Yes. That was the exact dilemma of "good girl" Caroline, too... It places way too many restrictions on someone who just can't live under the weight of everyone else's expectations.
*_"You're my daughter and best friend rolled into one."_*
Hey that's just like Brooke. She has her stepson and husband rolled into one! 😂
And poor Eric Jr is Bridget's brother and uncle rolled into one. 🥴
Good analogy! Spot on! 😂🤣
Let's also appreciate the fact that Brooke is Little Eric's sister-in-law.
@@annieo6527wow I never even looked at it like that. This whole family needs therapy. Between ridge marrying his siblings mother, who was also his former stepmother, little Eric and Bridget being siblings and uncle and niece, Brooke being her own kids sister in law, the kids calling their other brother “uncle Thorne”
@@annieo6527 😂😂😂 Great point Miss Annie! And also eww 💀💀💀
@@annieo6527 LOLOLOL I never put that together before. Brooke really e ph ed up her whole family!
Brooke is despicable, even if Taylor returned 4 months later instead of 1 year, she would still acted the same way
Even if Taylor had showed up at the palace during their honeymoon she would have behaved the same way and mewed about the children
Ridge's mom chats with Taylor's dad.
Oh whoops sorry! That's Brooke and James.
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Finally, Stephanie is saying that Brooke only using the stock as leverage without holding up her end of the bargain.
Brooke never meant to give the stock back.
James has already figured it out. Brooke is is using her children as leverage and Ridge will choose her because of the kids.
@sharonstewart4882 I am sure you would do exactly the same.
@@Esi-741 Brooke threw all her best s ex tricks at James and he _still_ took Taylor's "tug" side over her. 🤭
If Brooke really cared about her children as she claims, she would not have married her son's brother. That is not good for him and it's proven over and over again as little Eric grows up and becomes Rick. He shoots Grant because of all the trauma of the extremely dysfunctional environment Brooke raised him in.
Didn't Brooke destroy her own family to Eric... Hypocrite much😂
Before that she destroyed her family and the forrester family.
In total she destroyed three families.
yes little Eric has every roght to be with his own father as Bridget
I never understood how Eric manages to be free from having to be a father to the children, at least to Eric Jr.
it’s always about Ridge in the father role.
There’s a gaping hole in this storyline.
That's Brooke's fault.. She froze Eric out so ridge could be his father. Which is why Rick begins to act out as he gets older he misses Eric as his father
Good point!
So he could be leverage. Sick and selfish. She didn’t consider her own child in all of this. Her needs above everyone else’s.
Eric was pushed a side by Brooke, but also has decided to stay away and let "his eldest son" be the father of his children. He will often push Rigde to consider his siblings wether or not he leaves Brooke. He lets himself pushed aside and also needs his free time to chase the next bimbo.
He was always an abstenee father to all his children. That is a choice.
Yep. But they treat him with such reverence. 🤨 Evident in the current season when he was dying. Suddenly, he was the best father ever.
I cant wait for the Barbados storyline😏
We are going to have so much fun with that storyline! 😄 🙌
Lol Brooke and the dolls.
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Brooke: family is a very precious thing
and you don't destroy it.
Tell that to future Brooke as she tries to break up a family with 3 little children
At least Brooke never tried to murder people in cold blood and leave them for dead in their living room. At least Brooke never purchased a baby illegally on the black market to gift to her daughter. Brooke is a woman who will always try and keep her husband, which is perfectly normal. Ridge married Brooke after Taylor died. Taylor then went out and married a prince when she didn’t need too. Taylor gave up every right to her marriage to Ridge in that moment. I don’t care if Taylor thinks she was manipulated into marrying Omar. She still did it. She gave up every right to Ridge the moment she signed her name on her marriage certificate with Omar.
Such a hypocrite 🙄!!
really and Stephanie's family was not precious
and she distroyed Stefanie's and Eric's family by getting pregnant with Eric's child
Not Brooke saying she has a functioning family 😂 3:21
Brooke can't stand that James has a good point about the children.. Who.. BTW.. Aren't even Ridge's 😂
Then she tells him he is in denial about the reality 😂😂... When in fact, Ridge is actually married to Taylor legally.
Then she puts him out bc he isn't echoing her. So much for therapy...
Poor James trying to get through Brooke's self-serving logic and circular reasoning. He must feel like he's listening to the audio exhibit in a men t a l competency hearing.
Your so right about that
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But... The CHILDREN!!!
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Brooke's obsession of Ridge has blinded her to compassion, truth n just behaviour
It would be great if every time she invoked THE CHILDREN a truth thought bubble appeared above her head that read “ THE PAWNS”. 😂
Stephanie: Brooke is what she is. she’s a manipulator…she’s used the control of the company and the children.
2 reasons, there are more, why Brooke is not a sympathetic character. She’s a schemer.
Touché!
But, remember, Brooke’s a world renowned scientist…Bahahahahaha!! Viewers never bought that plot device. 🥴 s l u t from the valley, yes. Brilliant woman, no.
That’s right! She became a chemist in the FC lab. We just could t BeLieF it.
a bad woman with a bad reputation
A functioning family with two children and a husband and a wife... But Brooke still wanted to tear apart Taylor's family with three children a husband and a wife (before her second death).
Which happens on the future, the same kind of curiosity Taylor is showing right now in not wanting to rip apart Brooke and Ridge’s family in wanting her husband back?
Brooke kept James over for a second episode cuz he’s finally someone she can outshine!
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Given the way he slapped her with some cold hard truths, I'd say James way outshone Brooke😂
*Will Ridge Choose Brooke Because of the Children?*
It IS interesting how many times "the children" are invoked in this episode. Not just (LOL) by Brooke but by Stephanie and Taylor and _even_ James. That last one is important because James really is trying to find common ground between the two sides, and he's a reliable narrator who's been involved with both Taylor and Brooke so he has some credit with the viewer in this scenario. And his rhetorical scenario ("What if there were no children?") implies that Brooke's hold on Ridge _may not_ be as strong if she didn't have the kids. Ever since Taylor returned, I've felt the show has made it obvious that Ridge will choose Brooke and has given TRIDGE fans next to nothing, but this is the first time it feels like the show is throwing them a b one. Ridge loves both women so it's just a matter of who he chooses to marry or stay married to, and the implication here is that this time he might choose Brooke because of the children.
What ever credit you've accrued with the B rook e stans will be depleted with this one post. R I P your notifications. 😆😂😉
Really! I'm rewatching these episodes after decades and only just realizing how ridiculously many times "the children" is mentioned. A lot of Brooke fans will never accept that the children were the deciding factor but boy the signs are loud and clear!
@@Esi-741 yesterday I was telling Nick that Ridge was prolly made to choose 🔔 hopper so the paternity reveal could be 'edge of your seat'. HT leaving for MP might have been a contributing factor. Side note: I know you had reservations about her joining MP 😂
HT leaving for MP seemed to forever lower Taylor’s place in the B and B world. Also, She probably wasn’t as obsequious as KKL. I read that HT pushed back at times.
Yes, I agree with you. Right now it looks like the children are front and center for Brooke as the reason for Ridge to stay with her? Taylor must be feeling encouraged by the things Steph said to her about Brooke and Ridge. Steph has taken sides…with Taylor. Not sure what James was suggesting…that they can all be friends? Brooke seems to be the one who feels threatened? She has good reason to feel that way…in today’s episode. James approach made her feel that he supports Taylor? We saw the scenes between Taylor and Steph bonding…and Steph expressing support for Taylor and Ridge. Brooke is worried that her perfect family is being threatened. It really is all in the hands of the writers as to how this storyline proceeds…🤷♀️
There is always blame to go around for who did what when? I appreciate the way you and annie break it down for us. You both do a great job. 👏👏👏
Brooke: it's wrong for a family to be ripped apart.
Meanwhile: years later , brooks sleeps with her daughters' lovers
And years earlier, she sleeps with a married man and her mothers (ex) lover, than when she marries him and sleeps with his son and goes again after a married man.
The level of hypocrital entitelment, obession and delusional is really blowing my mind.
And than many years later she goes after her daughters husband/finace/boyfriend and her sisters husband.
Sleeps with Stephanie's husband, tries to sleep with Taylor's husband, sleeps with Macy's husband, sleeps with her sister's husband 🙄....... goes on and on
So cringe
she broke Stephanie's family and tried to destroy Tay;lor's marriage more than once nothing is sacred regarding to her
She also tried to seduce Ridge whist he was drunk (and unable to consent) because she found out Taylor was pregnant. Fortunately for her Ridge came to his senses before they went the whole way (or she would be guilty of far worse) but not before Taylor found them in bed together. I mean, can you imagine if Taylor tried such a thing?!?
Maggie's POV is weird - _a 18 year old has no business being out on her own_ - when she (and John) had sent a 16 year old on her own to LA and then let relatives raise Jessica for a year.
So Brooke's idea about therapy is the therapist agreeing with her without question
Basically...
Stephanie telling Taylor that she loves her as much as her own child ,really doesn’t mean much.Unlessssss your name is Ridge.
Well, being right after Ridge it's a very good position.
@@babs4848 Stephanie loves her other children too
the recent scenes between Steph and Taylor clearly show that Steph's love for Taylor was genuine and not because she loathed Brooke as writing post 2005 depicted
Brooke has spoken about having compassion for Taylor lately while she hasnt shown any what so ever since she found out she was alive🙄😵💫
Brooke look s like she belongs with Horace Green and Lucky and that whole trailer crew more so than Jessica.
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Why are they wasting Dylan with boring Jessica? There's no chemistry at all between them, and Darla is showing us perfectly.
Oh honey… there’s a reason and it’s 🤢
Dylan has better chemistry with literally everyone else other than Jessica. Jessica is like that grey cloud that shows up in cartoons over a character when they are unlucky.
this will be spiced up when Dylan falls in love with Maggie
So, James, the first session didn't go well. There's no space for objectivity with Brooke.
But Brooke showed us that it doesn't matter who Ridge loves the most.
As soon as he talks about a choice between only Taylor and Brooke, Brooke got insecure.
That’s Brooke’s main problem unfortunately….. which goes back to her abandonment issues.
@@kimlambert2127 she can be insecure, but the lack of objectivity or rational thinking has nothing to do with her father's issue.
I can see that point! Her objectivity is virtually non existent rn @@babs4848
and insaine
@@babs4848 I don’t agree it has everything to do with it
Brooke and Maggie have one thing in common: selective listening skills. They hear what they want to hear, and discard everything else.
Also, their children become important when it is convenient to them
Brooke Logan could give a master class on How to Be a Hypocrite. 😂 She spent a majority of her time trying to break up the Tridge marriage and continued to attempt to break up their family in the late 90s and early 2000s. Girl hush. 🤦🏾♀️😂
Exactly .. She condemns others for what she has done herself many times
@@larryfrazier5925 that part💯
thank God the good people are standing up together Stephanie and Taylor, james and Taylor good people back good causes and Taylor needs her hsband back and he needs her so much more than what he realizes also
"Yes James, you cant eliminate the children, because it is my competitive advantage in all my relationships with the Forresters"
_"She's gotten more mileage out of that stock than it's worth"_ - Stephanie is speaking on behalf of the view 12:58 She's exasperated because Brooke's been dangling the company like a carrot 🥕 since episode 1960.
Stephanie takes Taylor's side no matter the outcome. Steph is a traditionalist to the core (cc Nick) and that'll take precedence over the FC stock. She made clear to where she stands in episode 1709, but of course Brooke will act surprised because she doesn't listen. She painted a picture for Brooke (episode 1709):
*What do you think you're going to do **_intimidate_** me by waving a few shares of Forester stock in my face* (16:55)
*let me tell you how much my son's marriage means to me I would sacrifice Forrester Creations to save it if I had to* (17:12)
Which is why when ppl keep saying she's a great CEO just bc an already wildly successful company didn't go bust under her, I roll my eyes.
All that company meant to her was a means of keeping one foot in the Forrester door, and the other foot on Steph's neck. That's not the mark of a great (or even reasonably good) CEO.
She uses and will continue to use the company stock just like she uses those kids of hers.
@@TriniT21ITA... Ridge himself told her an idiot can run FC with him and his dad around. You have nicely explained that she took over a company which was and still is a Going Concern.
Meanwhile *NOT* Brooke saying she has a functioning family 😂 3:21
Stephanie repeats this very sentiment when Brooke again offer's up the stock if Stephanie will help Brooke win Ridge back after she gets caught by Ridge kissing Grant in season 10, I think. Stephanie then I think remembers this go around with Brooke dangling the stock and she calls Brooke on her bluff and asks her when. When you get back together, when you get engaged or do I not get the shares until Ridge marries you. Something to that affect and Brooke can't give her an answer. She then tells Brooke she would never use the company stock as a bargaining chip for Ridge's happiness. She calls Brooke out as a user, who only uses people to get what she wants. She will use the stock, the kids and anything else she can to justify what she wants.
@@nicolegough2828 IKR! Episode 2401, you raised some good points
Funny how Brooke says the word ripping a family apart you just don't do it 🤣🤣🤣
she is a master at it
$500 bucks a month for rent? Sigh, those were the good ole days.😂
Here in Melbourne, Australia, my mum was paying $150 a month for mortgage on her 3 bedroom house that she purchased in 1976. She finally finished paying off her mortgage back in 2020 at the age of 73.
I wish cbs would start Y&R over at season 1 also…Since we have to wait like years to watch these old seasons.
Even on Paramount+ we can’t 😢
Didn't Maggie sign the papers to give legal guardianship to Steph and Eric??
And apparently they pay for her studies too.
I don't get Maggie. She put the burden for a year on Stephanie and Eric, wasn't involved at all in the legal drama (have they even informed her) but now she acts as if that has never happened at all and as if Maggie is the only one deciding about Jessica's future.
@@mara4450 I also don't get that she decides to stay in LA. so basically she abandons the alleged "sister" back in Iowa 🥴
Brooke would give one of her children (most likely Eric Jr) to get Steph to say even half of what she said to Taylor 😂
I love that she thought Steph was Team Brooke.. Lol.. NOT
And I'm glad Steph pointed out that everyone will be on Brooke's side... At least she recognises this inexplicable behaviour of her male family to just give Brooke leeway and a pass for everything.
"most likely Eric Jr" 😂😂
This reminds me of when Stephanie praised Macy at her sobriety party and *Ministry* said Brooke would k ill for that kind of acceptance from the Queen.
Brooke would definitley give all of Eric's brats and all her other relatives and her life to hear Steph say just one setence of what she said to Taylor. 😅
LOL, but never.
So right, Trish. I think of how Brooke stood up to Sheila to profess her devotion to Steph and Forester Family. You’ll have to kill me…
Always trying to get on Stephanie’s good side. Stephanie not impressed.
@@z-5reader939 Not Steph basically dropping Brooke after she tried to win brownie points by pretending she'd take a bullet 😂😂 (good thing she didn't actually have to, bc she'd hold that over Steph's head begging for gratitude for the rest of all their lives).
But I knew Steph wasn't fooled by the gesture...her face said it all lol.
Brooke has basically hated Steph for always seeing her for who she really is. And Steph always knows exactly who she's dealing with when it comes to Brooke. She allowed one tiny leeway when she thought Brooke was genuinely going to give her the stock back... That mistake is never goin to happen again.
@@TriniT21 Brooke: *_tries to win Stephanie's sympathies by offering to take a bullet for her_*
Eric: *_hides from the bullet behind Stephanie and still has her undying love and loyalty_*
Brooke could have won Stephanie's heart...when she had the chance by returning the stocks...now she blew it. Stephanie will never take her side now...
Brooke lost her second chance when Sheila didn't fire her gun 😂
Brooke can not win anybody she forces herself on everybody that is why she is a villan
Jessica has a scholarship to USC and Maggie talking about Community College😂😂!! And, Maggie talked about her other daughter so she still has a kid at home....why is she trying to control grown Jessica after abandoning her??
Darla has it bad for Dylan....but she also liked Bill Sr. and Connor....they don't ever let her have a man🤨
Darla is annoying
So, Maggie is in Stephanie's guesthouse. That means Eric is back to his dungeon and looking for the next young thing he can play with in the basement. 😅😂😝🤪🤢
I would really love to know where Eric has been living all this time. Lol
I can't think about the next young thing he would like to play with🤢
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I’ve never seen this intimacy with Stephanie’s own daughters Kristen or Felicia.
Great point! Stephanie has never had that type of relationship with her daughters or Thorne, for that matter. However, she treats Taylor and Ridge with such love and respect. That is a huge problem.
@@staceygash9421a huge problem that she loves Taylor and Ridge? I know it must be hard to see that she never loved Brooke the same way she loved Taylor...😂
@@scor66 A huge problem that her other three children didn't receive the same treatment. And that she didn't have that intimacy with Kristen and Felicia.
Some might like Dylan and Darla, but I can't really deal with their sort of humor. IMO, suddenly Dylan seems even more immature than when he had been with Jessica. 😅 Oh, no. The manager doesn't seem happy either
Agree! The humor is corny and contrived. Dumb.
Jessica and her mother's scenes are so boring.
Agreed! An unnecessary storyline
Your so right about that
It's all Jessica's fault in my opinion. This character is totally useless.
Brooke knows James is right. She's in a panic because she knows she could lose Ridge. And now that Stephanie is close to Taylor again...
Unfortunately Dylan is wearing a shirt in today's episode. Even more unfortunate we have to listen to whiny Brooke the eternal drama queen go on and on about her and Ridge's "family."
Stephanie is right, Brooke use her stock and the children.
Everyone will be also on Brooke's side. Ofc the Hoegan lovers, Rigde and Eric will be.
Eric is not really taking any side. He already supported Taylor (FC press conference) and he will keep being there for Taylor.
Oh good, Queen Stephanie issued an apology.
James, one of those children has already three parents. THe truth is both KIDS are Eric's and he is already the third wheel freely and pushed by Brookes obession, she only can have "real" family with Rigde.
She is and will constantly tell her children that for years to come and really messed them up with this.
These kids are already messed up, 6:32 6:33 because they are raised by nannys more than by Brooke and Eric Jr has lost his "real" dad already and he is raised by his half brother.
The family Brooke is revering to is built on three broken families (the Forresters, the Logans and Brooke's fam with eric), if we add Taylors marriage with Rigde, than four.
But ofc Brooke's family with Rigde is the most important one, it was totally worth and nessicary to break them all, that Brooke can have her obessive, dusty destiny, fantasy dream family. 🤨🤔😖
@andream5998 It is better that she is bringing them up with Ridge though , than with that useless Eric who is only thinking of how to find and marry a woman 30 years younger than him.
But here the story of whose the child is, reminds me of a greek tragedy.
Couldn't have said it better!
@@youlamatou I don't think Rigde was a that much better dad than Eric was.
But true, Eric constantly pushed these kids onto Rigde, so he can hopp from woman to woman. Eric and Rigde are both very useless when it comes to raising children, responsiblity, family and thinking and caring for other than themselves.
What stabil children Brooke?
And the father of those kids Brooke is not Rigde, it is Eric. He is their father.
And Rigde is not your husband.
why should Ridge raise his father child when his father is still alive and well
Brooke is extremely manipulative when it comes to Ridge and he can't see it. He rarely sees the side of Brooke that the women see all the time. When he does see it she manipulates her way out of it by love bombing him.
Cridge and Tridge,( in the right Esi order,😉) didn't have the tv in the living room.
Steph never mention the confession letter lol
18.18 Stephanie the greatest manipulator of all , "knows" of course better than anybody else who Ridge loves the most. When will she stop interfere in her son's life ? When will she let him grow up? Isn't that James available for some sessions with Stephanie?
She will stop…… NEVER 😂 she has to control her family
Brooke will need therapy soon when's she's running around Barbados looking wrecked and talking to her dolls. 🤭🤭
I have no recollection of that episode but every time you mention it I get excited in anticipation! Dolls in Barbados? Bring it!
@@Esi-741 I swear that was a typo 😂
Definitely! Steph and Eric both run Brooke out of town, Brooke didn't deserve that treatment AT ALL! She didn't know a thing about that test! @@sharonstewart4882
Now I've watched 2057 episodes, watching several episodes every day.
Bold and the Beautiful - 1995 (S8 E306) FULL EPISODE 2060
These episodes are from 1995. Why do I have to wait for a new episode every day here on UA-cam?
Since they are from 1995, I will never finish the entire series as long as I live with only one episode per day.
Are we really meant to wait for a new episode every day for years to come?
Stephanie has always been blind to how much Ridge loves Brooke. The storyline had Ridge going back and forth but anyone could see that he loved Brooke the most and the longest.
Well, Steph will come to realize that in years to come. Could be around 2006? Steph will do a 180 and realize after Ridge’s heart attack that her son loves and wants Brooke back. Steph will then use her manipulations to see that Brooke is brought back into Ridge’s orbit…😁
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He was happily married to Taylor for four years from 1998. They also had 3 children in that time. I don't remember Ridge and Brooke ever having that sort of relationship.
Stephanie was never blind to how much Ridge loved Brooke. She was fully aware of it as well as everyone else. That's why she fought against them being together for so long and so hard at whatever cost.
Ridge and Brooke's love story spans over 30 years. I don't think any of us really mind giving Taylor four years. We knew during those four years it was still Brooke for Ridge no matter what she did.
Calm down Darla, you're being extra with Dylan. 😺
In order to save Brooke's family , Taylor should go back to being dead ??!!! ... what kind of logic is this ?! ... and supported by none other than her smart lawyer Connor ?!!
Is Maggie now staying at the guesthouse for good? Or will Taylor "getting her life back" also get that place back, considering that Taylor is Stephanie's daughter of her heart?
Taylor will buy the beach house soon.
I am on team Brooke but I dont like how they have changed her personality. The beginning of the show she was more driven, they have more less consistent now...
12.40 I love what Stephanie says about Brooke, "Brook is a manipulator" but here she doesn't realise that that whst exactly she is too. They are very similar.
Taylor is just as much a manipulator as Brooke & Stephanie are.
Yes, but Brooke was the outsider who squirmed her way into Stephanie's home and family. Stephanie didn't seek Brooke out in the valley.
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Agree with you. Taylor has been a manipulator from the beginning…she used her psychiatry to that end. Counseled those whom she said weren’t her patients? 😁
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@@trevorbayers2175 I actually believe Taylor is the biggest manipulator of all of them. Brooke and Stephanie are very upfront about who they. Taylor on the other hand is very covert and uses mind games. She has very conflicting personalities. Basically, Good Girl Sydrome. There are so many instances when her true colors come out but she quickly has a psychological reason to explain away her actions aka manipulations.
At the time I was on Brooke’s side because of Bridget (not “the children” as little Ricky has a father, absentee or not).
Stephanie's telling Taylor how she's like a daughter to her (she likes Taylor more than Felicia and Kristen combined) and her best friend, but only a few weeks ago she was raging against her and ordering her to leave town.
Jessica is 18 now??When??
Little Eric isn't Ridge's; His real dad doesn't pay to Eric. Everyone has has a perspective.. see all sides.
Oh.. I do just plain wish Brooke would just disappear !! 😂😂
Don't we all 😂
@Viktor21771 Yes we do..😂😂
I swear, go away brooke ! 😂
She's like ge nital her pes. Once you've got her, it's for life
Oh, that would be great, get lost Brooke!😂🙈
I guess Brooke saving Stephanie’s butt from Sheila meant nothing to her?
She didn't save Stephanie from Sheila. Brooke didn't even think Sheila would pull the trigger
She is incredibly ungrateful, she will turn against Brooke twice more, right after Brooke saving/helping to save her life. I wish Brooke didn't even bother with it.
@@marn25 I wouldn't pin any medals on Brooke. _Ridge_ stepped in front of his mother first and Brooke just didn't want to live without him. 😆
@@jonfoerster Spot on! I was about to type the same!
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What can one say about Steph? She is every bit the manipulator she accuses Brooke of being. Steph forgets the truth and believes her own lies. And she does that all the time to gain advantage…🤨
Taylor keeps struggling to close her lips.. now can understand why she had the surgery
Hummm😊
09:08 Brookie and her crazy eyes.🤣
…and then fast forward to Taylor with Ridge and their 3 children having the audacity to come at Brooke for trying to take her husband away when it’s the exact behaviour she’s guilty of
Ridge and Brooke belong together every time Taylor comes back she interrupts their happiness and their peace😮 Stephanie hates Brooke so she'll say anything bad against her to Taylor 😮
Actually it's d opp, Brooke always comes in b/w Ridge and Taylor but then Brooke fans hav always watched a diff show🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Agree, they do belong together. It will take awhile though for Ridge and then Brooke to realize that…not till 2007. Really very good dialogue in eppi where Ridge and Brooke are reunited(for the 10th time?). 🥰
@@ambika66681 yes, indeed😂👍
*_If you treat people with disrespect it comes back to haunt you_* With Brooke and Stephanie, it really is like *"What came first? The hen or the chicken?"* Stephanie brings up the stock and how Brooke used that to manipulate her, but Brooke ended up with that stock because Stephanie at that time openly disrespected Brooke and even gloated when Stephanie believe that Brooke had signed a backdated contract without reading it/ Eric had hired a lawyer that spied on Brooke while pretending to be a masseur.
Stephanie has a reason to loathe Brooke, who ended Stephanie's marriage to Eric, but before that Stephanie has also openly showed Brooke how much she loathes Brooke (eg. when Brooke moved out of Stephanie's house).
I have said it before, but their "agreement" was damned from the start, when it had Stephanie only willing to give Brooke another chance because of that stock, but Brooke needing that stock and the schildern to get tolerated by Stephanie as Ridge's wife in the first place (who would love nothing as much as to finally get Brooke out of their life).
My goodness, today's episode was so boring.
I don't see why these very old episodes are being rationed.
Paramount+ should have all seasons of B&B, Y&R, ATWT and GL. I don’t understand why they don’t.
and just like that with a little i m sorry and smart Doctor talk Stephanie forgive Taylor who1 day before she wanted away from Ridge?
well brooke big mistake to give them back their company
Poor Brooke😂😅.......NOT !!🤭
She hasn’t given them back the company.
Stephanie is officially back and I loved those scenes with her and Taylor so heartwarming 🥰🥰.
It is really sickening to have to listen to Steph praise Taylor….. 🤢
Even more sickening to listen to Brooke use her children and pretend they're both Ridge's.
I love it and could watch Queen Stephanie and Princess Taylor bonding all day ❤
Regardless of the children, this is something that goes on for years as far as Taylor goes! @@CBosten379
I know GAL! Enjoy!@@galoutlaw8089
Actually, Steph is the master manipulator who can get both Taylor and Brooke eating out of her hand. Right now Brooke doesn’t know that Steph has become Taylor’s ally in getting Ridge to return to Taylor. 🫤
I never like the Brook house
That was the worst thing you can say to you own child
Jessica has another talk with Maggie with Maggie still determined to take Jessica back to Davenport but Jessica wants to stays where she is.
Maggie's life would certainly had looked different had Jessica went back to Davenport with Maggie.
Elsewhere in this episode Brooke makes her umpteenth explanation of what family means to me.
Well for me family is me with my two wives Barbara Crampton and Kathleen Kinmont.
Barbara's name turns up for the first in the end credits of this episode and knowing this fact at the time was certainly useful at that time.
This is because Fraternity Vacation came on television not long after that and seeing Barbara's name in the opening credits of this movie ertainly made me stick around and that is how Barbara and Kathleen became my wives.
Matthew See
Barbara Crampton and Kathleen Kinmont's Chinese Husband
Unfortunately ridge has always loved brooke even with Caroline ❤
But Brooke could never compete with Caroline and she knew it
Agree…Ridge will show that to be true again and again through the upcoming episodes. Ridge was never able to fully let go of Brooke…😌💕
@@bettyhopson 😅🤣😂
@bettyhopson I don't think anyone realizes why they are pushing "the children" so hard from before the Bridge marriage and years to come. Of course it will turn out that Bridget is not Ridge"s. But he says he stayed for the kids.( Of course he said that cause he thought Brooke was being unfaithful with Grant. So, he is saving face with Taylor after divorcing her. And remember Taylor is the loyal, good angel, until... ) Ridge always loved Brooke regardless. She knew it and so did he but once he found out about Thomas, his life with Taylor was sealed. He kept going back to Brooke emotionally while Taylor was alive and physically when she wasn't. Guess what? Brooke didn't have a child to hold him with. It was only Brooke that Ridge wanted. After, they had Ridge Jr(there's a reason Taylor didn't get to give her son that name) he only left Brooke because of Stephanie manipulations. So, the deeper meaning is that for 20 years, it was ALWAYS Brooke for Ridge, and they didn't have any "children" together.
@@staceygash9421you have to watch that Thomas storyline again because Ridge married Brooke totally on rebound back then, thinking about Taylor the day of their marriage. He was devastated about Taylor "with" Thorne. And during the Grant trial he had eyes only for Taylor.
Stephanie speaks the truth...
Stephanie wants only Brooke to pay so it's obvious that she doesn't care about the children.
If Brooke really cared about her children, she wouldn't marry her son's brother. Brooke has been using her kids since _before_ they were born.
Stephanie shuld care bout her ex husband's kids !! 😂😅
That's not what you said in the episode 2029 comments section 😂 but I respect that you admitted it won't last
Stephanie seems to care more for Jessica than her own mother does. But yes, when it concerns little Eric and Bridget, Stephanie had been convinced that the children would just fare as well if an ocean separated them from their dad/s Eric and Ridge. (Sheila, get Brooke on that place).
But Stephanie's mantra is that children cope, they don't need their parents (should we care about Thorne?) - except favorite son Ridge.
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 I said that Stephanie 's anger against Taylor wouldn't last long. I think Stephanie and Taylor are more like accomplices than real friends...time will show.
I can see a bit of Leanna love ( from Y&R ) in Maggie’s character.
In regard to Dylan’s apartment….these apartments on these shows are all the same layout…sofa near front door kitchen near by etc….😝
You’re like my daughter and best friend all rolled into one. 🥹🥲🥰
wonderful words from a wonderful woman
Eric is the father of your children,Brookie.Not Ridge.🥴🙆🤣
Brooke your marriage to Ridge is invalid because Ridge’s wife Taylor is alive, and Ridge’s wife Taylor committed bigamy. Therefore, Taylor is Ridge’s wife.
Could you imagine if they put Taylor and Dylan together?? 😍😍
Instead they keep him with boring Jessica(who dare I say is almost as boring of a character as Hope was for YEARS).
As much as I would have liked it because they are gorgeous, Taylor's character can't choose a boy like Dylan.
They might look good together, but Dylan is too immature. Taylor would just exchange one man-child (Ridge) with one even worse.
@@babs4848 eventually, she does worse.
@@kristinazubic9669and @mara, thank goodness she stopped right in time.
I really like Jessica Stephanie's niece she's so beautiful ❤️
I hate the was Jessica pronounces Dylan's name ("d_ _n"), eeeek
When Is The Bold & The Beautiful Season 11 Starts
We are only still on season 8. How can you already be up to season 11?
Brooke havent done anything wrong,she didn't make ridge love her,he hates to see Brooke Happy with other men.
Lol yea right. Ridge tried to stop Caroline from marrying Thorne and Taylor from marrying Storm but never did anything like that for Brooke. She had to make do with a loooong pre-wedding daydream 😂 And before you say Ridge stopped her from marrying James, well neither Caroline nor Taylor were options at the time.
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You are right. Ridge is the one who pursued Brooke and wanted to marry her right away. Steph doesn’t want to admit that Ridge was the one insistent on marrying Brooke so soon after Taylor’s death. 😮
@@galoutlaw8089 you must forgot about grant and James,he was jealous of them.