“My Autopilot isn’t working” Pilot can’t Fly IFR!

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  • @baoghal
    @baoghal Місяць тому +212

    LMAO at the controller in the background.

    • @johnathanmckenzie8360
      @johnathanmckenzie8360 Місяць тому +1

      Lol😂

    • @AldousC
      @AldousC Місяць тому

      He should be reprimanded. He must have been shouting to be heard like that. Irresponsible.

    • @glasair38sr
      @glasair38sr Місяць тому

      That was awesome. There were a couple of guys dicking off over CAE with a stuck / hot mic, on the primary approach freq…wish I had a recording of that one pre and definitely POST hot mic resolution.

    • @akaknowlesy10
      @akaknowlesy10 27 днів тому +2

      He wasn’t wrong! 😂

    • @kewkabe
      @kewkabe 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@AldousCYou can tell the controller was being trained. The other guy would have been his instructor and his headset is hooked to the same PTT switches. The instructor didn't know the trainee had keyed up. Controllers talk like that all the time, just not on the radio.

  • @martinhsl68hw
    @martinhsl68hw Місяць тому +44

    The guy has his own Notam

  • @fortheloveofcake93
    @fortheloveofcake93 Місяць тому +217

    when the deviations are so bad the controller becomes concerned with your health.

  • @MarionBlair
    @MarionBlair Місяць тому +120

    I like this controller's patience and willingness to try and understand the pilot's situation

    • @SeekingHisWill78
      @SeekingHisWill78 Місяць тому

      He sounded cute, too!

    • @realdjoffski7201
      @realdjoffski7201 День тому

      pilots situation is clear. he is one stupid mofo and same goes to whoever let him fly

  • @lyingcat9022
    @lyingcat9022 Місяць тому +156

    Same recommendation for both Pilot and ATC. STOP! Stop fking with the A/P and Nav! Fly straight and level and simply request a safe heading and attitude.
    “CKB App, N1234, request a Vector for time. Navigation malfunction.” and you should get back…
    “N1234, fly heading 180, maintain 7000.”
    ….read back
    “Heading 180, 7000, N1234”
    And DONE, now fly the Fing airplane and calmly try to work the problem while flying straight and level.
    And ATC. STOP! Stop jabbering at him, he’s clearly task saturated and unable to handle his airplane. Give him Vectors and tell him to fly straight and level. Then ask for his intentions and or if he needs assistance. He had already clearly left his route or assigned heading. Scolding him is not helping to resolve the situation.

    • @jesse00pno
      @jesse00pno Місяць тому +6

      YES YES YES YES!!!!

    • @PTRRanger951
      @PTRRanger951 Місяць тому +37

      You realize that dead time is edited out right? It wasn’t back to back transmissions over and over. They also have a duty to keep at the pilot, they are also probably wondering if they should be sending jets after him because his intentions can be he is going to intentionally crash into something. They don’t know his intentions or if he is ACTUALLY task saturated, they have a job to do and are doing it.
      But no they were not jabbering at him, there was plenty of time between the transmissions where the pilot should have figured out how to fly. If he is flying IFR he should have enough experience to cancel auto pilot, stop turning and maintain an altitude. It’s not hard. It’s not complicated. It’s the most basic thing there is to do.

    • @FlyTaylor
      @FlyTaylor Місяць тому +6

      @@PTRRanger951Yup absolutely agree! Aviate, Navigate, Communicate…. Fly the airplane

    • @CaptCamel
      @CaptCamel Місяць тому +8

      The guy in the background saying "Tell the pilot to fly the f***ing plane" is my spirit animal

    • @adb012
      @adb012 Місяць тому +2

      Totally agree. Even more. I would give him no-gyro vectors (start turn - stop turn) so he doesn't need to look away from the the artificial horizon. I would not even fight with him to maintain a constant altitude, I would just move everybody else away from him. Sharp turns, 90-degree turns, 180-degree turns, inability to hold altitude, inability to respond coherently to ATC... this pilot was not just task-saturated, he was losing it!!! He needed to reduce the workload and focus in just the most critical thing: artificial horizon.

  • @dhyde9207
    @dhyde9207 Місяць тому +166

    As a Commercial/Multi/Instrument rated pilot, stories like this always worry me mightily. When you're in IMC doing everything right and guys like this are aviating with you in the soup, it's impossible to know what's ahead, behind, above or below you and avoid them. You're at the mercy of these loose cannons.

    • @rediop4309
      @rediop4309 Місяць тому +2

      HAHA loose canons. ;)

    • @kenharbin3440
      @kenharbin3440 Місяць тому +15

      It these new pilots that have an electronic gadget for everything. The moment anything doesn't work they don't have a clue how to navigate or fly the aircraft, GPS controls the autopilot, and the thought of carrying paper charts in their bag just in case eludes them. Their log book says 300 hours, but 275 of those hours the gps/autopilot was flying not him, so when in a jam he can't actually fly the aircraft very well. Trying to maintain direction and altitude simultaneously was beyond his capabilities. It's getting scary up there.

    • @fl3702
      @fl3702 Місяць тому +7

      ⁠@@kenharbin3440GPS does not control the Autopilot in any fashion. The Autopilot is a stand alone system on the aircraft. The pilot can use the autopilot to track ILS, GPS, VOR, and HDG’s. Students pilots are not allowed to use autopilot til Commercial certs in TAA aircraft. I am sure that this pilot wasn’t new. IFR flying is not easy for most GA pilots and they have the highest accidents rates due to lack of actual experience.

    • @carlosp4521
      @carlosp4521 Місяць тому

      @@kenharbin3440 OMG, yet another “child of the magenta” comment. GA is getting safer by the year because of those “gadgets”. It’s up to the individual pilot to maintain proficiency and observe personal limits whether you are flying a G1000 panel or paper charts with a pen light and king radios.
      As far as who shares the sky with whom, I’d much rather share the sky with someone who has all the gizmos and ADS-B out than someone who thinks they are a “real” pilot because they have their handy dandy paper chart and stopwatch. I care for a paper chart as much as I do a rotary phone.

    • @ILikeTuwtles
      @ILikeTuwtles Місяць тому +3

      Stay in the flight levels and out of the bozosphere.

  • @s_m_v
    @s_m_v 7 днів тому +3

    WAAAY back in the olden days of coding, we had the phrase _"GIGO"_ Garbage In, Garbage Out. This applies to autopilots as well. They will only work as well as the inputs they receive.

  • @C420sailor
    @C420sailor Місяць тому +46

    This is what happens when you’re allowed to take an instrument checkride with the autopilot.

    • @f3nd13y
      @f3nd13y 20 днів тому +4

      Even with an autopilot you still have to show you can fly without the use of the auto pilot.

  • @user-oy9zz4wz1l
    @user-oy9zz4wz1l Місяць тому +39

    Patience of an oyster.
    That traffic controller is why I trust our system. You KNOW he was getting traffic the f*** away from that guy.

  • @adb012
    @adb012 Місяць тому +14

    Like 1 minute into this exchange I would have gone "6ZW, I am declaring emergency for you, I'll give you no-gyro radar vectors to XYZ, just look at the artificial horizon and try to make shallow turns. Stop right turn now. [...] Stop turn, go straight and level..." and I would not care too much about an exact altitude as long as he is well above obstacles and terrain.

  • @cal4625
    @cal4625 Місяць тому +89

    A perfect example of how anyone, with enough money and the right connections, can get a pilots license.

    • @knife-wieldingspidergod5059
      @knife-wieldingspidergod5059 Місяць тому +10

      Or no pilots license, who is going to check if he has a license or not?

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +3

      True

    • @dennisstoesz
      @dennisstoesz Місяць тому

      No enforcement out there ....

    • @ILikeTuwtles
      @ILikeTuwtles Місяць тому +5

      It wouldn't be the first time someone without an IFR rating ended up in IMC.

    • @haydenbrown8421
      @haydenbrown8421 Місяць тому +7

      The UA-cam chick in the Beech fatal last year is a prime example too. Have money, left brains on the ground.

  • @frankrosenbloom
    @frankrosenbloom Місяць тому +22

    Single pilot IFR can be exhausting. It's easy to get task saturated very quickly. Just yesterday I was flying IFR from the coast to Spartanburg SC. I was actually going to try to break off and get over to my home airport if there was enough visibility and a high enough ceiling but I decided to just land there and have my wife pick me up. I set up and briefed the approach for runway 23, but the latest weather showed that 05 would be better. In a very short time I had to change things around quite a bit. It's necessary to talk oneself down from a high anxiety state and take a deep breath and think through what needs to be done.
    I was able to cancel the prior approach in the GPS, and reload the opposite runway while descending. I was not yet at the initial approach fix so I did have some time. I have an autopilot but I fly most of my approaches by hand so that I maintain proficiency. I think he got disoriented and depended too much on his autopilot and we have seen disasters from that before. Thank goodness he didn't get into a death spiral. However, he was not on the approach, and was in the en route phase of his flight. He should have been able to fly straight and level without the autopilot. Just trim it up a bit and relax, fly straight and level and plan from there.

    • @cmack864
      @cmack864 Місяць тому

      Glad you made it safely. SPA is my home airport

    • @frankrosenbloom
      @frankrosenbloom Місяць тому +1

      @@cmack864 Thank you. My wife is there now taking a flying lesson.

  • @coma13794
    @coma13794 Місяць тому +26

    Shocked the pilot didn't get into a graveyard spiral. Equally surprised controller didn't get more assertive since it was clear that the pilot didn't recognize the gravity of the errors. Disregard, he did a bit later on. Pilot needs a 509 ride real quick. There is zero sense of accountability and he ignored 80% of the controller's calls.

    • @FlyingNDriving
      @FlyingNDriving Місяць тому +2

      It's a crime if there's no 509 ride in this guy's future

  • @svenf1
    @svenf1 Місяць тому +34

    From the book "The things I did on my last day of being IFR-rated"

  • @Glofilter
    @Glofilter Місяць тому +12

    It's a rental. Maybe AP disconnect broken, so it was fighting him. According to the internet, which is never wrong, it has a GNS430. Maybe he accidentally hit the CDI button and was working off the VOR needles instead of the GPS and didn't know it. That's happened to me more than once, though I caught it pdq. I'm guessing low time IFR pilot in an unfamiliar airplane.

  • @WalidFeghali
    @WalidFeghali Місяць тому +70

    The FAA should implement higher language standards for pilot certification. Many times when I'm flying I can't understand a word some pilots say talking to ATC, frustration and confusion arises and that has proven dangerous more than once.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +13

      I agree completely. The situation is getting worst day by day.

    • @WalidFeghali
      @WalidFeghali Місяць тому +8

      @@Flight_Follower Especially in IFR and IMC where you're basically relying completely on ATC to safely provide traffic separation and obstacle clearance.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      @walidFeghali exactly 👍

    • @animusadvertere3371
      @animusadvertere3371 Місяць тому +5

      That would be some kind of discrimination no doubt, in the world we live in.

    • @arctain1
      @arctain1 Місяць тому +6

      English proficiency is exactly that - proof that you are proficient conversing in English. Much like the IR, maintaining proficiency requires the use of the English language . Passing a test, one time, is not enough - no more than passing your Instrument practical one time. You have to use it to remain proficient. Failure to remain proficient requires a IPC for your IR - the same should be the case for English proficiency. The FSDO should get involved at this point.
      This pilot failed on both counts - he proved he was not proficient to fly IMC, and proved he was not proficient conversing in English. Both are required.

  • @animusadvertere3371
    @animusadvertere3371 Місяць тому +64

    Is it just my imagination, or is everyone getting less competent at everything lately?

    • @Moto848
      @Moto848 Місяць тому +8

      I've been saying the same thing for the past handful of years. Not just the industry I work in either, in all kinds of places I'm seeing far more sloppiness and half assed work than I used to.
      The lack of knowledge in what people are doing has also increased. I'm noticing more and more people unable to explain basic life functions like how to brush your teeth properly... and these people have kids.

    • @ascherlafayette8572
      @ascherlafayette8572 Місяць тому +5

      ​@Moto848 crazy how as you become more experienced and knowledgeable everyone else seems to get less competent . . .

    • @Moto848
      @Moto848 Місяць тому +4

      @@ascherlafayette8572 Maybe that's what it is I guess. Everybody seems stupid because you continue trying to learn while everybody watches tiktok influencers with broccoli top haircuts flop around in a parking lot somewhere doing what they think is dancing.

    • @sneakythunder9483
      @sneakythunder9483 Місяць тому +4

      Not your imagination. More crashes too

    • @Mountain_Yeti
      @Mountain_Yeti Місяць тому +2

      It’s not your imagination, people have become helpless morons lately.
      Personal life, work, it’s something I’ve really been picking up on the last year especially.

  • @bitlong4669
    @bitlong4669 Місяць тому +20

    As much as I agree how everyone judges this guy for his incompetence, I feel for him. Being in IFR annd so confused must be scary af. I hope he really takes some IFR lessons before attempting to IFR again. This must have been really nerve wrecking. You can hear it in his voice.

  • @rudiklein
    @rudiklein Місяць тому +14

    It's always great to hear such a confident pilot. 😱

    • @niteowlification
      @niteowlification Місяць тому

      I know right? This guy makes Pete Mitchell look like a fool.

  • @charlesbrewer6552
    @charlesbrewer6552 Місяць тому +6

    There seems to be an over-reliance on the autopilot generally among US pilots.
    IFR demands hand flying skills!
    When I did my IFR training, many decades ago now, it was ALL done hand flying!
    If you cannot hand fly IFR you have no business flying IFR!

    • @rydawg7629
      @rydawg7629 Місяць тому +3

      US pilots? This guy can barely speak English. He might be in the US, but he's no US pilot!!

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      Exactly

    • @freepilot7732
      @freepilot7732 Місяць тому

      I agree.

  • @user-ek7sb9pl7h
    @user-ek7sb9pl7h Місяць тому +35

    I would be wanting to look at his licence and ratings, and if he is qualified a word with his instructor/examiner.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +9

      He was at 7,000 feet. So surely he was not Hypoxic. His tone was suspicious. What happened to this guy??any idea ?

    • @arctain1
      @arctain1 Місяць тому +2

      Proficiency is not a one-time thing. He may have a license, but that does not indicate that he has maintained proficiency.

    • @tristantriton8115
      @tristantriton8115 Місяць тому

      His instructor probably died already from old age.

    • @KC2DZB
      @KC2DZB Місяць тому +4

      @@Flight_Follower Carbon monoxide is a possibility with similar symptoms.

  • @something7239
    @something7239 Місяць тому +10

    I'm a VFR pilot but this guy makes me feel instrument rated.

    • @arthurbrumagem3844
      @arthurbrumagem3844 Місяць тому

      I’m with you. I stay vfr just to keep it fun and safe

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      VFR is good 😅

    • @arthurbrumagem3844
      @arthurbrumagem3844 Місяць тому

      @@Flight_Follower my wife loves to fly with me as long as it is vfr so I’m not going to ruin that for her. I have numerous friends who quit flying because their wives didn’t care for it.

  • @randyporter3491
    @randyporter3491 Місяць тому +11

    This is a reminder to all of us who fly, that there are "pilots" like this up there among us. That concerning at best.

    • @n085fs
      @n085fs Місяць тому

      ..and they also probably drive themselves to the airfield...

  • @idunnoanymore2870
    @idunnoanymore2870 Місяць тому +20

    The person who certified this person to fly should be jailed, they are allowing this person to injure himself and others around!

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 Місяць тому +16

    In the UK there are or were driver licenses with or without limitations to drive a car. One for automatic transmission cars and one allowing to drive manual transmission cars. Perhaps time to have a pilot license for no autopilot required and one for autopilot required.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +2

      Well said 😂 pilot license with “ Autopilot required/ no autopilot”

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto Місяць тому +1

      I’ve always thought there should be an endorsement for advanced autopilot functions (beyond course and altitude hold).

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree Місяць тому +2

      Autopilot is and aid ... in both cases you should be able to fly the plane manually, or course with the help of instruments.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Місяць тому

      Any pilot should be able to fly their aircraft without an autopilot. On my last turboprop the autopilot was a cat C MEL, so it could be unserviceable for 10 days. Even now, on the 777 we have 6 hours a year of manual flight training where you have to fly instrument approaches and stuff without automation. It’s pretty easy.

  • @LTLucas5
    @LTLucas5 Місяць тому +2

    I am from this area and learned to fly at CKB and know the area and controllers well. This tower/TRACON is a training facility for early controllers. A potentially unseasoned controller with an under qualified pilot can make for interactions like this. Hence the supervisor in the background telling the controller to tell the guy to “fly the plane.”

  • @sbrunner1234
    @sbrunner1234 Місяць тому +6

    It is always easy to bash someone else. In all likelihood, he is a low-hour pilot. Given this situation, things were not routine for him. There might have been some hypoxia issues, anxiety about the situation, and task saturation, combined with unfamiliarity of the navigation unit he had in this airplane. Perhaps there were other issues which we do not know such as being in IMC (likely as he flew IFR), significant chop, or perhaps at nighttime. He was on his way to KPJC which is a small untowered airport, likely the home airport of this plane which is a 172K, a small trainer from the late 60s. It is questionable if this plane even had a two or three-axis autopilot. Given the age, it likely had not much more than a wing-leveler, and followed course on his Garmin. It is more likely that he had an issue, programming, or perhaps clicked the wrong button on his Garmin, and lost routing. For those who say he should have taken out a map, envision this: you are a single pilot, your flight bag is in the back, you experience some chop, meaning you constantly have to correct to keep such a small airplane on course and altitude. Perhaps it is dark, and your only light is your dim red-light headlamp. Given this situation, you have to reach back, dig through your bag, find the map, open the map that covers your view to instruments and the outside, be able to see the map, figure out reference points, perhaps triangulate via messing with two VORs, which again requires you to understand your GN430 or whatever he had in there. Some of the old guys perhaps can do this, but I can tell you very few younger (in their 50s or younger) pilots will be able to get this done alone. What he should have done is: disengage his autopilot, stabilize straight-and-level, then ask ATC for vectors. What he probably should have done before the flight, is have his iPad ready with flight-plan entered as a backup. I also would like to remind that last year Medflight N273SM that apparently lost the autopilot with a high-hour Commercial pilot flying it. The pilot did the same thing, apparently random change of altitude, random change in heading, and ended in a death-spiral, disintegrating midair. I would give this pilot a lot of credit, that he sorted out the situation and safely landed. And btw, judging the ability of a person on his/her accent is highly racist!

    • @dennisstoesz
      @dennisstoesz Місяць тому +2

      You make up a bag of excuses for a totally incompetent pilot ,.....

    • @adrianmizen5070
      @adrianmizen5070 Місяць тому +1

      Not judging on accent, judging on failure to respond to ATC and failure to follow instructions. The best case scenario is that he didn't understand ATC, otherwise it was willfull.

    • @thomaspartin8968
      @thomaspartin8968 4 дні тому

      A well thought out reply, sir. And you are correct that those types of skills are lost on most folks my age and younger. (I’m 27.) But… I think you (and MANY others) are defending incompetence in a field in which it simply cannot be tolerated. Proof here that money talks. This guy is just another rich idiot with more dollars than sense. This is why you should be required to actually work for and EARN your FAA ratings, and consistently demonstrate high proficiency- not just BUY them from a flustered instructor trying to build time toward their ATP. What a saddening and infuriating example of this completely broken aviation system in the US.

  • @robmcmillan3766
    @robmcmillan3766 Місяць тому +5

    Registration comes back to a C-172… That has to be an interesting ADS-B track…

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 Місяць тому +48

    The pilot probably thought it was a perfect flight as he didn’t understand a single word the controller said. Ignorance is bliss.

  • @gazzas123
    @gazzas123 Місяць тому +27

    How did he get his license let alone his ifr rating. His comms procedures need to be upgraded as well.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +1

      Undoubtedly.

    • @thomaslembessis6803
      @thomaslembessis6803 Місяць тому +1

      He attended the “Close cover before striking match” flight school”

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree Місяць тому

      @@thomaslembessis6803 I looked up for the phrase on Google ... got a big laugh out of it, sure this guy would lit the whole matchbox if this warning wasnt pinted on it.

    • @derekcruz4663
      @derekcruz4663 Місяць тому +1

      Probably current but not proficient whatsoever. You only need to do a couple things every 6 months to stay IFR current

  • @KingInky13
    @KingInky13 Місяць тому +5

    It sounds (to me) like his autopilot was making really drastic course changes and he was trying to fight it with the controls and became task saturated with trying to figure out what was happening and how to fix it, which took a while. Whatever actually happened, that's a scary situation to listen to.

    • @webcucciolo
      @webcucciolo Місяць тому +5

      Yeah, problem is, every autopilot has a quick disconnect switch/button, and every pilot who got an IFR rating and is flying is expected to be current AND proficient to fly an airplane WITHOUT relying on autopilot!!

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@webcuccioloAnd every aircraft I've flown has a clearly marked AP circuit breaker which you can easily pull if all else fails.

  • @normannutbar424
    @normannutbar424 Місяць тому +2

    I went from thinking ‘what a moron’ to ‘oh shit, this is medical’ maybe a TIA mini stroke or something.

  • @Sarge226
    @Sarge226 Місяць тому +6

    I understand the frustration but nagging a task saturated doofus constantly when you know they are in over their head is not very helpful.

    • @jameswilkinson6678
      @jameswilkinson6678 Місяць тому

      I had the same thought. The guy is in an unfamiliar aircraft that may be malfunctioning. He's trying to figure things out. He's flustered. Give him some breathing room.

  • @scapilot1980
    @scapilot1980 Місяць тому +1

    This is proof that just because you have enough money to own six red roof inns and a fancy airplane doesn't mean you know shit about how to fly it. It's sad we have to share the skies with people like this. How this guy ever got a ppl is beyond me, but am instrument rating too?? God. Help us.

  • @mikehernandez7896
    @mikehernandez7896 Місяць тому +22

    Sounds like the pilot shouldn't drive a car, let alone an airplane.

    • @nunyadamnbusiness-zo6nz
      @nunyadamnbusiness-zo6nz Місяць тому

      Diversity!

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 Місяць тому

      @nunyadamnbusiness-zo6nz
      The fuck that’s supposed to mean? Plenty of dead stupid white Americans. Like JFK Junior. Or F-14 pilot Daryl Snodgrass.

    • @MaisonKingWallace
      @MaisonKingWallace Місяць тому +1

      He sounded like one of y’all

  • @YVRpilot
    @YVRpilot 8 днів тому

    Brutal to say the least. Whoever signed that guy off should have their license suspended until retrained. 🤯

  • @dannygentry-nj6lh
    @dannygentry-nj6lh Місяць тому +1

    As a commercially rated pilot of 21 years, this guy in the Cessna is a danger to everyone around him....He needs to be ramp checked by the FAA and have his license revoked.

  • @Ifly96
    @Ifly96 10 днів тому

    This guy will become a statistic very soon.

  • @KonaMan62
    @KonaMan62 Місяць тому

    The title of this video would lead me to believe that this was a flight in IMC; however, based on the dialog, it was a flight in VMC under an IFR clearance. If he was actually in the soup and somehow managed to avoid a spiral death, that'd be impressive. In any event, that controller had to be SO happy to hand him off-I only wish we had the coms comments between the controllers, at least beyond what we heard in the background.

  • @flutetubamorg
    @flutetubamorg Місяць тому +1

    I'm not sure if this guy should be driving a shopping cart.

  • @chucklesuk
    @chucklesuk Місяць тому

    This is so bizarre this actually happened so often.

  • @CAPEjkg
    @CAPEjkg Місяць тому +1

    Technology destroys basic airmanship! Too many people can't fly without GPS or AP, it's a shame.

  • @n085fs
    @n085fs Місяць тому +10

    ATC should just tell him to get below deck and then soon as he does, cancel his IFR clearance.

    • @carlosp4521
      @carlosp4521 Місяць тому +2

      That’s not how it works

  • @MyGoogleYoutube
    @MyGoogleYoutube Місяць тому +3

    Is the pilot having a medical event?

  • @smudent2010
    @smudent2010 Місяць тому +21

    How the hell didn’t he get a pilot deviation from that???

    • @hortod1
      @hortod1 Місяць тому +5

      Probably waited until he was on the ground before giving him the Brasher

    • @mtnairpilot
      @mtnairpilot Місяць тому +1

      Mere bad airmanship is not in and of itself usually a cause for a formal pilot deviation. Usually those are given when some kind of traffic conflict or airspace violation occurs.

    • @cflyin8
      @cflyin8 Місяць тому +1

      @@mtnairpilothe still deviated from his cleared route. Regardless of an actual conflict, that’s a pilot deviation. The question is whether the controller wanted to do the paperwork and nail him. Controllers have a lot of discretion to let things drop and not get formally reported.

    • @carlosp4521
      @carlosp4521 Місяць тому +1

      @@cflyin8 Personally I’m glad that controllers aren’t flagging every single deviation. If you are honest with yourself you have probably deviated a time or two. Maybe you didn’t follow a SID perfectly, maybe you flew an imperfect hold, maybe you didn’t read a NOTAM you should have, maybe you descended onto an approach course slightly early. Still, in this situation I think a phone call is warranted. This pilot absolutely needs some training time before filing another IFR flight plan.

    • @mitchmclain4809
      @mitchmclain4809 Місяць тому

      I was only able to listen to about half of this. It made me cringe.
      I am sure almost every person on this is more experienced than me. What I can say as a pilot that received my instrument rating last year is that I have come across situations since then that were never brought up in training or on my check ride. I have made some errors where I think the controller could tell that I was inexperienced or not to “expert” level yet. With each thing that came up I discussed them with more experienced pilots and my instructor to see what they would have done in that situation, however, I never did quite as bad as this guy.

  • @Ndub1036
    @Ndub1036 Місяць тому +2

    Usually you don’t know if you’re experiencing hypoxia if you’re experiencing hypoxia

    • @cgtrout
      @cgtrout Місяць тому

      You know your flight isn't going well when ATC asks if you are hypoxic.

  • @jswyman-ll3dr
    @jswyman-ll3dr 4 дні тому

    Time to pull his ratings....

  • @anthonycarr6732
    @anthonycarr6732 Місяць тому +5

    When was this pilot’s last IPC? How many hours in type? Is he familiar with the autopilot? He needs to fly with a CFII IMMEDIATELY prior to operating any solo IFR flights.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      what’s wrong with this guy! Someone pls explain 🧐

    • @trm64
      @trm64 Місяць тому +1

      He sounded impaired

  • @flyingmortgageman
    @flyingmortgageman 19 днів тому

    Having flown in a Garmin equipped PA32 recently i could not believe how beautifully the AP flew the plane in IMC right down to 500ft without us touching a thing other than the power it would even fly the ILS hold had they have requested it. I can see why people get lazy and loose the ability to fly Manual. However this guy was making no sense and i think its was more a case of Hypoxia and he was trying to get his mind back, as he sounded like me after 10 pints!

  • @Stettafire
    @Stettafire Місяць тому +1

    Aviate. Navigate. Communicate. In that order

  • @nightwaves3203
    @nightwaves3203 Місяць тому +2

    With no mention of time of day I figure it was night and the guys never learned at night hypoxia can start at 5,000 and above. You won't notice the onset. Just give the guy a lower altitude so he can start cussint too and say wtf was that. Live and learn.....hopefully.

    • @prestonmiller6528
      @prestonmiller6528 29 днів тому

      hypoxia doesn’t happen any more at night than during the day. It is just that our night vision is impaired more while at low light levels. Brain function and health other than perfect vision are NOT impaired. Also, seeing the instruments at night time to fly the airplane aren’t a problem because of this. If it is, he has health issues that effect everything, eben daytime flight.

  • @AccountInactive
    @AccountInactive Місяць тому +1

    Definitely a language barrier. He doesn't understand a thing ATC is saying.

  • @Bastille1918
    @Bastille1918 Місяць тому

    This pilot has a hazardous macho attitude!

  • @Rennyteam359
    @Rennyteam359 Місяць тому +2

    This is a case of pilots trained to operate the aircraft computers and not actually fly.

  • @razorseal
    @razorseal Місяць тому

    Imagine these people get their licenses and pass checkrides.

  • @fox111qc
    @fox111qc Місяць тому +2

    That pilot was task saturated. He probably need more practice and refrain from flying IFR.

  • @J-Burgerz
    @J-Burgerz Місяць тому

    “Sir, my colleague would like you to fly the airplane.”

  • @fastradios
    @fastradios Місяць тому +8

    Another good reason to give up flying for boating

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      😆😆

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn Місяць тому +5

      Depends on where you go boating. The more expensive the other boats are, the less likely to know what they're doing and the more likely to be drunk.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому

      Well said 🫡

    • @darwinawardcommittee
      @darwinawardcommittee Місяць тому

      But this is the guy that was piloting the Francis Scott Key boat. He already made a career change…

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn Місяць тому

      @@darwinawardcommittee - Harbor pilots make a helluva lot more than airline pilots, and the black gang are in shit for that one, not the pilot.

  • @rnav36
    @rnav36 Місяць тому +1

    He definitely sounds hypoxic. Better check for exhaust leak.

  • @JonathanStracener
    @JonathanStracener Місяць тому

    I’m guessing they saved the whole “call this number” deal until after they knew he was down. There’s no way a FSDO isn’t going to be getting a deviation report from these guys.

  • @zstanman482
    @zstanman482 Місяць тому

    It appears that just about anyone can get a pilots license...that's a scary thought.

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto Місяць тому +4

    Ramp check time.

  • @purebloodnaturalimmunity1995
    @purebloodnaturalimmunity1995 Місяць тому

    What were the repercussions for this guy?

  • @garythompson2517
    @garythompson2517 Місяць тому

    I have over 500 hours and have never used an auto pilot. They are a convenience, not a necessity for flying

  • @nauticatom
    @nauticatom Місяць тому

    I could only imagine the stuff that went on before UA-cam atc recordings…..

  • @purebloodnaturalimmunity1995
    @purebloodnaturalimmunity1995 Місяць тому

    Language barriers is a real thing

  • @leonjensenn8253
    @leonjensenn8253 Місяць тому

    The pilot was probably high out of his mind

  • @ra2186
    @ra2186 12 днів тому

    What instructor signed off on this guy? They should be charged.

  • @billh308
    @billh308 Місяць тому

    I’m an ATP and I fully support the FAA revoking his license.

  • @SJoelKatz
    @SJoelKatz Місяць тому

    Whatever problem this pilot was having, he absolutely failed to clue in the controller. The controller could not tell if he had a mechanical problem, was impaired, or just oversaturated with tasks. This made it difficult for the controller to provide whatever assistance the pilot needed. I'm glad it ended safely, but I do hope the controller filed a formal deviation because it's very possible this wasn't just a competent pilot having a bad day who would be best helped by being forgiven.

  • @markusanderson1517
    @markusanderson1517 15 днів тому

    I'm amazed the guy survived the flight .... makes me think he's not IFR certified, listening to this playback (or, a brain donor).

  • @warddc
    @warddc Місяць тому

    I don't see a flight for N736ZW since 12.16.23

  • @user-ur4tp5ks5y
    @user-ur4tp5ks5y Місяць тому +1

    Are there Silver Alerts for pilots?

  • @-AV8R-
    @-AV8R- Місяць тому +5

    Why wasn't a heading given to the pilot? ATC seems more interested in pointing out the pilots failures than actually helping.

    • @adrianmizen5070
      @adrianmizen5070 Місяць тому +1

      how else would you suggest the ATC "help" when the plane is making turns in random directions and changing altitude? Just let him fly wherever he wants in the air space?

    • @thomaspartin8968
      @thomaspartin8968 4 дні тому

      He did. He gave him a direct vector. Several times. If you can’t find that, you are either hypoxic, sick, unqualified, or qualified and brain dead. Either way he sucks at flying. No sympathy here. Fly with the foggles on for a few dozen more hours, buddy.

  • @chiareu7912
    @chiareu7912 Місяць тому

    That dude should not be allowed on a plane, let alone fly it.

  • @Invisty
    @Invisty Місяць тому +1

    For gods sake just accept that the guy is in well over his head and needs vectors. The controller didn't even make any efforts as such beyond "do you require assistance"?
    No point bashing someone who's in over their head - prompt them with actual help.

  • @falconbjj
    @falconbjj Місяць тому

    This guy got his instrument rating from Temu

  • @owenmerrick2377
    @owenmerrick2377 Місяць тому

    It's a Cessna R172K.

  • @donaldwilson5693
    @donaldwilson5693 Місяць тому

    I thought for sure that was going to end in a crash. That's pilot sounded totally out of it and flew that way, too.

  • @grantnyenes3742
    @grantnyenes3742 5 днів тому

    This controller trying to save your life… What are you doing in charge of an airplane?

  • @JohnLemieux
    @JohnLemieux Місяць тому

    Stay proficient!

  • @kcpilot63
    @kcpilot63 Місяць тому

    This is an everyday occurrence. Come fly with me for a just one week. Unfortunately it is everywhere in the continental U.S. I fly international this is sometimes the norm. In the U.S. it is now the norm.

  • @ralphkassing6821
    @ralphkassing6821 Місяць тому

    He may have a pilots license but he’s not a pilot. This is not as uncommon as you think.

  • @MooseGuy1
    @MooseGuy1 Місяць тому +5

    Well, Chuck Yeager's legacy has one less guy to worry about. But Chuckie Cheese's flying legacy is moving up the charts.

  • @catherinesarah5831
    @catherinesarah5831 Місяць тому

    Pilots like this should not be allowed to fly. Period. 🙏

  • @adambutton6796
    @adambutton6796 Місяць тому

    How did he get an instrument rating? Also that controller is definitely a pilot or CFI!

  • @familieverhoeve7127
    @familieverhoeve7127 Місяць тому

    Callsign ended with WHISKEY, that must be it...Unbelievable that this guy is allowed to fly, a danger to anyone, in the sky and on the ground!

  • @billyray3761
    @billyray3761 Місяць тому +4

    Controllers have more patience than a police officer with a drunk driver.

    • @fess_ter_geek
      @fess_ter_geek Місяць тому +1

      No they don't, you just don't usually hear what they say off frequency.😁

    • @billyray3761
      @billyray3761 Місяць тому

      @@fess_ter_geek Well of course the pilots are the same way. Although with all the near misses, I'm glad to be retired.

  • @Aditya-wg3lp
    @Aditya-wg3lp 11 днів тому

    Who the hell let this donut pass any certification, they all need to behave investigated

  • @mikeknowles8017
    @mikeknowles8017 Місяць тому

    I've been in and out of CKB a lot as a passenger in a company jet. It's not exactly flat terrain. You might want to watch altitude. Just sayin.

  • @kevinjackson9526
    @kevinjackson9526 Місяць тому

    They must be giving away IFR rating too.

  • @msabol01
    @msabol01 Місяць тому +1

    Scary, an Autopilot is there to help you and reduce workload it's not there to fly the plane for you.

  • @upner4169
    @upner4169 Місяць тому

    a dude without licence for sure.

  • @spaghetti9845
    @spaghetti9845 27 днів тому +1

    This further proves that pineapple belongs on pizza.

  • @ericdoe2318
    @ericdoe2318 Місяць тому +1

    Darwin take that yoke!

  • @kurtisf3366
    @kurtisf3366 Місяць тому +34

    ATC was terrible. Their annoyance was valid at the start but it became painfully obvious almost immediately that the pilot was in trouble. The guy was tasked with saturated trying to solve his autopilot issue and having trouble maintaining control of the aircraft. Clearly the pilot was in over his head and doing many things wrong, but all ATC did was add to the stress of the situation. All parties involved are lucky this didn’t end in the aircraft impacting terrain.

    • @MeerkatADV
      @MeerkatADV Місяць тому +11

      Bullshit, it's their job. They have a pilot not flying as directed in controlled airspace.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 Місяць тому +10

      ATC did fine and gave endless recommendations on what he should do to get out of this situation. They can do everything but fly the plane themselves

    • @kurtisf3366
      @kurtisf3366 Місяць тому +4

      @@FlightX101 it took them entirely too long to suggest diverting to an alternate airport and that came after someone in ATC hot mic’d over the freq to tell the pilot to fly the f’in plane. They established a very hostile relationship from the get go and they’re lucky they didn’t contribute to killing that pilot.

    • @joemashmk
      @joemashmk Місяць тому +4

      I agree, as a controller who works more airplanes in an hour than CKB approach does in a day, there is no reason for the attitude.

    • @diesel4ever273
      @diesel4ever273 Місяць тому

      What kind of pilot can't fly without autopilot? 😂

  • @TrueSight_333
    @TrueSight_333 Місяць тому

    709 ride. Now.

  • @dunnkruger8825
    @dunnkruger8825 Місяць тому

    Many SR “pilots” have no concerns about AP failure
    They have “PlanB”

  • @ShadesOClarity
    @ShadesOClarity Місяць тому

    The static is horrible on these transmissions from his aircraft.

  • @Michael-ig8ne
    @Michael-ig8ne Місяць тому

    Over-reliance on automation will fuck you every time.