Shocking midair collision and miracle landing!

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  • Опубліковано 12 кві 2024
  • Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: app.ntsb.gov/pdf
    Investigation Docket - National Transportation Safety Board: dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms
    registry.faa.gov/N8115Q
    Location: Chandler, AZ
    Accident Number: WPR13LA004A
    Date & Time: 10/05/2012, 1407 MST
    Registration: N8115Q
    Aircraft: PIPER PA-28-161
    Aircraft Damage: Substantial
    Defining Event: Midair collision
    Injuries:2 None
    Flight Conducted Under: Part 91
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  • @6yjjk
    @6yjjk Місяць тому +91

    Cherokee on scene above the helicopter starts descending, sounds like a great way to have a second mid-air.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +17

      Thats what i thought while working on the video

    • @RobertsWorkbench2023
      @RobertsWorkbench2023 Місяць тому +10

      Yeah, great comms by 044. "Hey, by the way, we've dropped down really close to the helicopter from above, just wanted to let you know" 🤦

  • @koolaid203
    @koolaid203 Місяць тому +20

    After seeing those images I am shocked, I have nearly 100 hours in a Warrior and I’m just stunned that even with half of its right wing missing and an aileron gone the pilot was able to land the aircraft and the plane itself didn’t suffer a catastrophic airframe failure

  • @billk8579
    @billk8579 Місяць тому +58

    In 1970 while stationed at Webb AFB in Big Spring, TX a T-37 from another training base had a mid air collision with a twin engine prop plane. The twin engine plane was conducting an aerial survey. The T-37 passed head on under the twin. The T-37 canopy was broken apparently by the nose wheel of the prop plane. The T-37 landed safely. The prop plane control panel was shoved back against the pilots. The pilots were able use their legs to push the control panel forward enough so the yoke had some authority and also landed safely. There was enough luck for a life time.

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf Місяць тому +2

      Holy cow that is a cool story!

    • @yamkaw346
      @yamkaw346 Місяць тому

      Hey I just landed for fuel at the old Webb AFB in big spring earlier today, small world.

  • @AVMamfortas
    @AVMamfortas Місяць тому +9

    First rate ATC. Good traffic directions and calls. Fine helping pilots. All very professional

  • @hotsoup1001
    @hotsoup1001 Місяць тому +17

    Interesting teaching moment for the student pilots in the search aircraft.

  • @terrallputnam7979
    @terrallputnam7979 Місяць тому +5

    This is a great example of keeping your head up and out of the cockpit. I was concerned about pilots having eyes glued to the iPad.

  • @markrix
    @markrix Місяць тому +14

    Someones angel filled in for that wing,.amazing professionalism w everyone

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi Місяць тому +18

    Someone should break the news to the instructors that while their students are flying VFR & practicing IFR under the hood, they (the instructors) should be specially keen looking out for traffic, as theirs are the only pair of eyes in the airplane looking at the outside. Flying VFR with all eyes staring at instruments is asking for trouble.

  • @waynef.8158
    @waynef.8158 Місяць тому +9

    Same place a heli and plane had a mid air in 2021. Glad these folks made it back to the ground, safely. Might be time to look at this area for excessive congestion and practices.

  • @giftofthewild6665
    @giftofthewild6665 Місяць тому +2

    He was really flying on a wing and a prayer, and managed to land it somehow 😮

  • @justplanefred
    @justplanefred Місяць тому +3

    good to see a video with a mostly positive outcome despite what was going on...

  • @glsracer
    @glsracer Місяць тому +3

    That's the luckiest Piper pilot ever. Those things lose a wing or horizontal stabilizer if you breathe on it wrong.

  • @n085fs
    @n085fs Місяць тому +19

    "Collision Aircrfats" - I knew this empennage made my butt look big.

  • @lawrencemartin1113
    @lawrencemartin1113 Місяць тому +3

    Well, so glad that seemed to work out well for all involved!! That must have been one scary ride back to the ground. Incredible piloting by the look of the damage.

  • @FlyingCameraGuy
    @FlyingCameraGuy Місяць тому +10

    It's hard to search when you are busy looking for traffic.

    • @EJ-74
      @EJ-74 Місяць тому

      Yep, traffic is priority

  • @terrancestodolka4829
    @terrancestodolka4829 Місяць тому

    Great teamwork... Yet all parties still have to be careful... Yet the good news that the aircraft both were able to make it safe to the ground....

  • @EJ-74
    @EJ-74 Місяць тому +4

    Its amazing how planes can still fly missing part of the wing, I learned this building and flying RC planes, With enough thrust and the correct CG you can make pretty much anything fly, lol.

  • @AZWildk4t
    @AZWildk4t Місяць тому

    I live 5 miles south of KCHD and this is the first I’ve heard of this incident that happened in 2012. Lots of planes and helicopters fly south to the Gila River Reservation for practice. Most days i have 15-20 helicopters flying over my house heading to reservation

  • @networkedperson
    @networkedperson Місяць тому

    The "Accident Final Report " link provided in the description is a broken link.

  • @robertbandusky9565
    @robertbandusky9565 Місяць тому +5

    Lucky folks! Thank God🙏🏻

    • @phillipzx3754
      @phillipzx3754 Місяць тому +2

      Do you also thank your God when everyone dies?

  • @computeraisle
    @computeraisle Місяць тому

    When I am safety pilot for friends practicing IFR approaches, my head is looking out 95%of the time - the ADSB won't show them all, and we have a busy VOR over here (KBUM)

  • @theginjaninja9768
    @theginjaninja9768 Місяць тому +3

    How did that plane land missing an aileron. Crazy

    • @alanrichardson1672
      @alanrichardson1672 Місяць тому

      Aircraft will fly just fine with one aileron, no aileron at a push!

  • @Hot1765
    @Hot1765 Місяць тому +9

    Oct 5,2012 this happened and posted 4 hours ago

    • @Yosetime
      @Yosetime Місяць тому +12

      So what? Is there a rule that channel owners have to post in real time or something? Geez. You don't own the place. If someone wants to put together a historical event, they can. In fact, they can post anything they want on their own channel. If you want today's incidents, watch a news channel. Why waste your time with a comment like that? Entitled!

    • @rogerrogerorger
      @rogerrogerorger Місяць тому +2

      The internet was slow 😊

    • @jamesmyers7066
      @jamesmyers7066 Місяць тому +2

      He was waiting for starlink to come online

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf Місяць тому

      @@jamesmyers7066 Haha!

  • @alanrichardson1672
    @alanrichardson1672 Місяць тому +2

    What is a suggested heading, never heard of that in the uk?

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater Місяць тому +1

      Some controllers are not qualified nor required to be qualified to assign vectors depending on the airspace they're working and the equipment available. Because of that they can only make suggestions. In addition to that, the area where they had the collision and where they were looking for downed airplanes was well outside of the class D airspace that the tower controllers handle for that airport. (It's a 4 nm radius.)

  • @pilotngb
    @pilotngb Місяць тому

    Know the pilots involved in 15Q. Situation handled very well by all involved.

  • @douglasthompson2740
    @douglasthompson2740 Місяць тому +3

    The question left unanswered is what happened to the aircraft that smacked that wing????

    • @ElementofKindness
      @ElementofKindness Місяць тому +2

      Both collision aircraft are shown throughout the video on the left.

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater Місяць тому

      It landed on the east side of the north test track.

  • @Mark-pp7jy
    @Mark-pp7jy Місяць тому +29

    The plural of "aircraft" is "aircraft".

    • @AvgDude
      @AvgDude Місяць тому +8

      Oh deer.

    • @marcston
      @marcston Місяць тому +2

      @@AvgDude kinda weird though, in other languages it changes if plural (no and I didn;t check all language(s) ;)

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Місяць тому +1

      Amazing. I'm a retired Air Force officer, and I didn't realise this. I don't think many AF crew members are aware of this. I did look it up, and you are right. Kudos to you, Sir ❤

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks! Learnt something new today

    • @richardconstantine6843
      @richardconstantine6843 Місяць тому +3

      Wow! This amazing video of two planes surviving a midair collision and you choose to comment on someone’s diction. You must be a joy to be around.

  • @gavinboot4810
    @gavinboot4810 Місяць тому

    I can understand how it could fly at speed,,but how could it not stall landing..??..

  • @colintett6872
    @colintett6872 Місяць тому +2

    It’s aircraft, not aircrfats!

  • @jopool5840
    @jopool5840 Місяць тому

    Easy to happen, wing in between eyes/sight of things underneath.

  • @askiff1415
    @askiff1415 Місяць тому +2

    This was over 10years ago

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater Місяць тому +1

      Your power of observation is unsurpassed.

  • @joycedudzinski9415
    @joycedudzinski9415 Місяць тому +5

    Getting a 404 error looking for final report.

    • @TheMcIke
      @TheMcIke Місяць тому

      From 2012: here’s the final report - data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/85265/pdf

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +3

      www.kathrynsreport.com/2012/10/piper-pa-28-161-n8115q-two-planes-clip.html

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA Місяць тому

      @@Flight_FollowerThanks.

  • @user-tm6nq3ou1v
    @user-tm6nq3ou1v Місяць тому +1

    A hack saw and some duct tape and you got a clip wing bonanza Reno air racer

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 Місяць тому

      need more motor....lol

  • @AtomicTankGirl
    @AtomicTankGirl Місяць тому +4

    "Aircrfats" lol

  • @prussiaaero1802
    @prussiaaero1802 Місяць тому +2

    Typical Australian - laid back approach calling a mayday, no biggie.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Місяць тому +2

      Yeah and he said “jeez” not Jesus 😂

  • @marcston
    @marcston Місяць тому +2

    Another great video. I used to fly in and out of Lakeland and MZeroA has a great video on how to talk to ATC at busy time, Sun and Fun. I was there as well. The only thing he said and I agree completely that getting Flight Following is better than Cold Calls as the Tower than expects you! Hope you don't mind me posting this ua-cam.com/video/AEQ92L6gauc/v-deo.html

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto Місяць тому +1

      They’re not likely to be able to get flight following while doing simulated IMC and IFR training in a training area, since they’re not traveling point to point. There are a lot better resources out there than the one you mention, by the way, for ATC communications and general flight training.

    • @marcston
      @marcston Місяць тому

      @@RetreadPhoto MzoA in my experience is very good and much better than others who only train to pass the written. If you know better resources let me know! PS my flight following comment was on the MZeroA vid. I posted it to show how it should be done in the hope that someone learns something Feel free to disagree and have a great day!

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @stephenanderle5422
    @stephenanderle5422 Місяць тому +1

    Can't see shit!😎😎😎

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR Місяць тому

    ÕMĞ é Dhidd thâý Đéíđs ¿ ¿ ¿
    😲😲😲😨😨😨

  • @hswing11
    @hswing11 Місяць тому

    TERRIBLE NOTHING VIDEO

  • @MobilMobil-kv5ke
    @MobilMobil-kv5ke Місяць тому

    Interesting that the control tower radar worked perfectly well for observing and vectoring the search aircraft. Too bad that radar was useless in helping avoid the midair collision.

    • @F1fan007
      @F1fan007 Місяць тому

      The accident aircraft were not using flight following and had not filed IFR. ATC has obligations to track anyone departing or arriving at the airport, IFR flights and flight following by request. Good example as to why flight following is a good idea.

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater Місяць тому

      Also, the collision happened far outside their airspace.