LEC Spring 2020 - Opening Ceremony. Behind the scenes - control room view
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- A live opening ceremony of the LEC Spring Split in January 2020.
Using timecode based music to sync light.
Using cuepilot to get the right camera cuts.
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bruh this feels intense
thats why they rehearse multiple times
having been in productions, it is.
@@Fs3i production is the most stressful thing of all time and i love it.
Hai can you reply me ?
HAHAHAHA for real man
It's the "and zoom, take, YES!" for me. Wow so satisfying to watch!
I wonder how intense a Half-Time Show for the Super Bowl would be!
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@@davidrenz1534 Thanks man! definitely more going on there.
@VM-431 they have way bigger teams!
@VM-431 Honestly those are pretty uneventful by comparison. Most of that is either already on timecode so it's locked in and you just watch it run or the lighting/video operators are just doing what is called busking, and they're running it on the fly as they see fit. Kinda like playing an instrument almost. Some larger opening bits will have a show caller but NOTHING like this.
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Its so funny to hear german sometimes
Jaa
Sehr schön
Ich hör die Musik nicht
@@streetcube-x3h Lmao! Genau XD
are you american?
This is the art that I enjoy in live events, the people who capture it and make it happen are just legendary to me.
And nobody knows who they are. Without these guys, there is no show.
The lighting technician who handles the recording of the steps made by the lights.
The camera technicians who have to be attentive to what they ask knowing in advance where to position themselves for training.
The specialist who handles the video to change cameras.
the specialist who handles the color of the cameras so that the contrast between them is not very different.
The technician who handles the audio of this recording and the one that would be broadcast on television.
And there is another audio technician that handles the instruments sounded before, those are independent, sometimes they are the musicians themselves.
Then if the camera is with cable, there are technicians who go behind the camera technicians, to help the cable not get caught, and if the camera has to go backwards, he goes as a guide dog.
There are many factors that are handled unison, and the German guy is the one who directs the visual orchestra.
Where I work, our boss thinks that this can be handeled by one person for minimal wage... :)))
@@mkmorfius Your boss underestimates the work of a conductor. No matter who he conducts, a conductor is a vital role, without him, the result of an operation can be catastrophic or chaotic, hopefully I'll see well.
And the focus puller ^^
@@HAWXLEADER not on TV cameras, only film. The camera operator will zoom and focus, the vision engineer will rack the cameras so they all match.
this was just 4 mins of it and I was already feeling exhausted D: imagine doing this for a whole length of a show SHEEEEEEEEEESH
-10 years lifespan for the stress in that job. Could never do this. But then again I'd be no doctor either. Great job you're doing!
but theres nothing stressful about this job, its all planned well in advance, its not like youre doing multiple things at once, director calls what he sees on screen, others press the buttons they hear
@@Glade4 Did you do job like this? Or any job within live streaming / video production of live event? Do you know how many things can go wrong? There is pretty constant stress. :)
@@BuriTechVids Yeah, I can only imagine pressing the wrong button 😂
@@BuriTechVids I occasionally do a similar job (i'm responsible for displaying live graphics and/or preparing and displaying data on them, live replays and VERY RARELY do the camera switches when the main guy goes to toilet or something) and all i can tell you about the stress is that it depends on the event and the amount of days it takes, usually the first day is the most chaotic and you learn of what is supposed to be when and where (for example biathlon, gokart or something especially when it is your first time doing this event) but then it is only at the beggining of each day, after 3 hours or so you just go with the flow and when an occasional mistake happens, nobody will be mad or anything as long as you carry on/correct it fairly quickly in a non interruptive way. You just gotta keep the overall 'flow' non disturbed. Speaking after 4 years of experience.
And yeah, we are a smaller team (they have like 19 video inputs, we usually do about 8-9) but still.
@@Mikoai Yes but you're talking about multi-day event. But we are smaller company/group of people and we do every day 1 or maybe 2 live streams most of the time on a different places where are different connections (internet, audio, venue, ...), different setup, different people, different everything. Of couse there are some preparations but most of the time when you are on new place, it is always stressful. :)
Mad respect for the people behind the scenes!
The fact that this all wasn't preprogrammed but rather done live blows my mind.
@Levi I see 👍 welp this vid has made me develop a deeper respect for backstage crews in general 👍
New drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "take"
Jokes aside, this is insane!
"sehr schön!"
plot twist: all the lights and videos are automated but he just likes to talk through the changes anyway
Yes, but he have to coordinate to every cameraman to be in position and tell them what to do at the right time.
they are actually. but the cameras dont move on their own
Realmente, hay varios que manejan eso.
The lighting technician who handles the recording of the steps made by the lights.
The camera technicians who have to be attentive to what they ask knowing in advance where to position themselves for training.
The specialist who handles the video to change cameras.
the specialist who handles the color of the cameras so that the contrast between them is not very different.
The technician who handles the audio of this recording and the one that would be broadcast on television.
And there is another audio technician that handles the instruments sounded before, those are independent, sometimes they are the musicians themselves.
Then if the camera is with cable, there are technicians who go behind the camera technicians, to help the cable not get caught, and if the camera has to go backwards, he goes as a guide dog.
There are many factors that are handled unison, and the German guy is the one who directs the visual orchestra.
@@pathosama Exactly, he follows the predetermined takes to make the movement more fluid and appealing
@@pathosama I think it is all rehearsed. But it is still awesome.
I work in the Theatre side of production, doing sound and lighting. It’s not as stressful as this most times, but this is basically how it is for us to. One person running the show and operators (2-5, depending on the show) reacting to the commands. It has to be exact, you definitely need good reaction time. If you are interested in this line of work, I recommend trying to get in as a sound or lighting tech at a community theatre production of some sort and trying it out. It makes for good practice.
As an analogy , This guy does basically what an Orchestral Conductor does.
even more stressfull :D
Orchestral control is actually so chill, this is way more exhausting
@@AF-qn9hc Orchestral conductor has many tasks to do by alone.
By the simplest thing to help the orchestra to keep the measure ( beat) correctly to even indicate the way and tehniques string players should do in an specify part of the piece .
Conductor is the leader for the interpretation of the piece.
@@maxverstappennonofficial Yeah that is true, but i still believe it to be more chill, seeing as a conducter performs a piece that has been performed many times before by both him and the musicians.
Not even close
I did lighting for a musical but this just seems way more intense with all the extra camera angles and things you really have to pay attention to for all the timing!
If you are comfortable with lights for a musical you have the fundamentals down enough where you can get this as your next step with some practice.
Love how, even with all this stress, he is giving these extra pats. "Sehr schön"; "Danke" "Good job"
Evidently rehearsed to death. That cue card is his lifeline, unless he has a supercomputer for a brain.
The brain is a supercomputer
i just graduated with a degree in media technology and this is is so amazing to see. this is like this coolest thing ever! thanks for showing this.
It is kinda awesome to hear him switch to german when he stresses out.
He actually doesnt - his coworkers are probably mostly german so he tells them "good job", "nice" a couple times.
@@helloiamrain You don't need to tell me what he says...
@@DieSpeckBohne how should he know that you are speaking german lol
@@anton826 bc when I recognize it as German it kinda means I know that, like I wouldn't recognize a language I don't speak
@@DieSpeckBohne So you dont recognize dutch, french, spanish, italy, etc.
I kinda felt the adrenaline every time the director cues the next camera operator. Even if they're on cuepilot, they have to know who's coming up next and what shot to give. Lights and sound production has been my hidden passion but sitting on the director's chair looks exhilarating.
All the camera people have cuepilot on a separate screen so much of the memorization of who comes after who and what shot to make mostly disappears. Each section can have some sort of description so the camera people what shot to make and just be able to focus on executing the shot.
There's a lot of fun examples on their showcase at www.cuepilot.com/en/showcase.html I recommend you have a look. The best example is the Eurovision one which is probably the biggest show on the planet.
suddenly, I went so serious while watching
you get next level appreciation to the event management after watching this!! Good job production team!
A truly beautiful symphony of perfect timing and gorgeous lights
Great Director track! Love the Ross board you all are using. :)
omg i didn't blink, it's so intense
probably the longest 4 minutes these guys have ever felt
Yeah, this is stressing me out and I was yelled at for many weeks by military training instructors telling me I need to put my rifle apart and back together OR I DIE
That's what she said.
Nah, just the average job of production crews.
Wait that was only 4 minutes? (I am makin it it worse - thats what she said again)
3:49 that yes can show how much he loves doing this
What I don't understand is how there's so much structure, yet there's sporadic moments where there's no structure to him announcing what camera to focus. Sometimes he will say it immediately after switching, sometimes RIGHT BEFORE. I could never do this, I'd have a meltdown in the first 30 seconds. Damn. This is impressive.
bruh this is prob more intense than the ceremony
Hi Jack. I'm very interested in getting to know more about live broadcasting. Am I right for assuming that cuepilot also cuts automatically? Why is the switch technician doing it manually while we see it on cuepilot as well?
So they can adjust to unplanned accidents and changes
Cuepilot is not connected. You can see on the top left of Cuepilot that he is using the free version of it.
Was macht Andy mit der Schärfe?
Nein, mal ehrlich. Unfassbar, was alle dort leisten !
Now i see why Audio Engineers exist...
Only one Word "RESPECT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn! That's a lot of pressure in there.. 😥
Bitte mehr davon! Das war richtig interessant wie es im hintergrund bei euch abläuft. Darf auch sehr gerne länger sein. ^^
Its like NASA mission control when they countdown
i want learn this :)
stage managing, it's so intense and so fun
@@brucevukasovich1739 Sorry but how is this intense? He is just counting down a timer which is shown on his screen. Am I missing something?
@@irelax8595 A) You're forgetting all the pre-production in place that is a part of all of this. Those shots weren't just random. B) step inside a control room for even one small news show, and you'll find it's still very intense. messing up just one time or accidentally pressing one button will ruin an entire broadcast. Every little thing needs to be perfect. C) if it was so easy than anyone could do it. Don't minimize someone's craft just because you're too ignorant to understand it.
@@xaviercullen540 Hi Xavier, thanks for the broad explenation, makes much more sense now. And in my opinion I wasn't being ignorant, I was and still am truly interested in how these people actually work and why it's intense because the footage doesn't seem intense at all to me. But that's for everyone else I think.
Oh, and I haven't "minimized someones work". I was just asking a straight to the point question. I hope that's not a problem for you ;)
Fun fact: Asking what a certain job is about is not """minimizing""" it.
Great job done, for those people who don't know but it takes years to learn and master it, given and take 3-5 years, pre-production work to a lot of time which many people/client doesn't know. Counting is easy but if you miss one item it's all over..
ironically caedrel saying 2020 was gonna be his best year yet, well he was definitely right but not the way he thought it would be
Wow!
There's even more performance going on here than on the main stage😕💁
I wanna live there!!! Love all that technic stuff
Live production is insane
Awesome - excellent work. I pulled this to show college students in a TV studio production class.... it gave them anxiety :-)
Cuepilot did not switch cameras automatically? or manual switching was just a backup?
It was just for the director to coordinate, so he didnt have to use a paper script. :)
normally cuepilot is connected to the switch. but in this case i called all cuts manually and my TD followed my calls.
@@live-jack why was that done manually since it could be automatic then? Some very specific things or possible inalignments in case camera guys are too late in place?
This is in every game of lec🤯
How to coordinate live show, Changing camera and scene edition
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It's impossible.
No. It's neccesary!
lol clemensAlive. Dich hätte ich hier niemals erwartet xD
c'mon, Tars!
so cool to this behind the scenes. a composer of another kind.
Owner of the work at working
the one talking seems like its the peak of his career
The professionalism indeed.
DRINKING GAME:
drink one shot every time when he said " Take !"
WOOOOOOOW this is massive , i"m happy as a child watching you !
props to the production team! well done SM!
Absolutely Amazing!!! Couldn't breath during the whole video :D
Dear everyone. Very good. Thank you
GOD bless you all AMEN!
This is my dream job but ended up as a Web Developer lmao
damn... the hearts of the whole crew must be pumping like hell... and they are so good.. If this is what I have to look up to then shit....
God...see consistency....Love that
Sensacional. Trabalho incrível de corte! Daria tudo por um momento como esse.
wow, impressive!
Backend is pressure but treasure
It's a common thing inside the control room if you're working at broadcast industry.
i want to hear him scream "GUYS! WE MAKING A FU***** SHOW!" :D
Best of Streaming Studio your Behind the scenes..
Why not just sync up the buttons/functions to the sound so manual input isn't required?
Just love and enjoy behind the scene... Tho it's my line of job but seeing how these big shows are put up mehn it's satisfying and the director is a machine himself. Really nice one guys 😊
Bin zufällig auf das Video gestoßen. Ist wirklich sehr interessant. Habe mir das alles ganz anders vorgestellt. Vielen Dank :)
"Good job, guys" YEAH! I agree.
It's like a copilot saying the words for the pilot in rally race
Honest question, why does he have to call it out if the screen sequence are already in place?
I was wondering the same thing. Looks like it's just manually executing what's already been planned out. Maybe it's a union thing - couldn't let the computers do the union jobs - must do it by hand.
He's like the director and that's his shot list. Yes, the technicians can follow to the letter. But, he can call audibles like he did when they were playing the instruments. You can also relate him to the likes of a conductor of an orchestra.
Did you watch the full video? He tells them to wait sometimes and not use the full planned sequence's.
Because if they let the computer do it automatically then if something happens like the artist or etc failed on choreography for a few seconds it will ruin every pacing for the whole show. Pretty much to reduce failure percentage about pacing that humans have better understanding than computers as of now.
Simply because not everything will surely go accordingly to the planned sequence. More than that, visual indication is not enough to catch the operators' attention so verbal calls are need to make sure they execute it.
it can be easy to forgot just how much production goes into these events.
No idea there was this much behind it... Honestly though they had just made the lightshow etc. run automatic
okay, but why does all this have to be done manually. like, why cant that cuepilot software on the laptop trigger all these buttons itself?
oh, how could these people have not thought about doing this, this is genius! jokes aside i'm pretty sure they can't, or they would obviously be already doing it.
It'll likely be because if something goes wrong with one of the cameras, or on stage, they need to be "in the zone" ready to step in and change things up quick. That and it's a pain to set things up on a computer when designers are always changing things. I've run lights and sound for quite a few smaller scale theatre productions (150-180 audience) and only ever used timed triggers for when I couldn't press the GO button fast / accurately enough, and could probably count them on my fingers.
Maybe it's different on this scale but I've always found it easier to work with scripts and learn things by feel and memory than to put it into numbers and fiddle with the software, and it's much easier to skip over a few cues when you're already doing it so you can just hit the down button a few times and wait, rather than have to worry about it messing up the timing for the rest of the show.
Thats simple, because the director only switch to that camera if the shot is perfect. Imagine switching to a camera with out of signarl or focus. The software cant know the shot is fcked up or perfect. Ofc they preactice this, thats why seems like there is no need for human interaction.
Because cuepilot was not in actual use in this. He just uses it to coordinate but thats all he uses it for.
Okay.... but wtf is "LEC Spring 2020" ?!? ^^ it seems YT algorithm knows "a native German speaker" is everything I need :D
Awesome!! I love this dynamic, love this job!!
very nice, wondering about the cuepilot sw, what it does? it is controlling something like the lights/music in the studio? or it is just a sequence helper the director pre-build to help during production
This room is the best
I hate to be that guy but why isn't it automated? We see the exact timeline playing on the macbook, why does it need a human to push buttons? Otherwise that was awesome.
Because stuff goes wrong, It's much easier to have each person interacting with their part of the system (from camera people, to the vision mixer, audio mixer, cast, camera control engineer, etc) and paying attention while following the plan who are then able to react to issues as and when they happen than to have everyone sat back going "Yep, this is fine" when something happens and they have to shift from passive into active, take control over from the automated system and react to whatever has gone wrong. This could be from a camera not pointing at the right thing when it needs to be, an actor being in the wrong spot, or some technical element going wrong, the additional delay in having to stop the automated system and take over would cause more disruption to the show than the director saying ready 16 instead of ready 15 before calling the take (for instance).
such a nice job really i enjoy this type of work.
Hi Jack, what software are you using in your MacBook?
Yea yea orchestra conductor, f1 commentator is a intense job, but this one deserve a respect too
Cool to see cuepilot in action.
No hi-fives or were those cut out at the end ?
Why wasn't the cuepilot triggering the vmix, if it had already been used to plot everything out? Was there any specific reason why it was used just for reference or...?
it's more expensive :) and I think that a manual trigger on the switcher might come in handy to time movements better, and they did improvise on another moment while switching cuelists
it's because they're not using vmix, but much more expensive hardware switchers
They are using a free version project of cuepilot, it only allows 5 cameras to be used in the project, but cannot connect it to anything, so they are most likely just using it for coordination.
This feels like driving a rocket in space lol
not trying to be rude but couldnt a script do all of those human inputs? :)
Cool ! thanks for the BTS.
Großartige Leistung! Sehr stark :)
why do they have to manually switch everything when they have it all planned out and on the computer already?
so you can react in case something is different, a camera goes offline or any other problems which could cause some disruption.
my mom came in my room and told me "dinner is ready" I just yelled at her "take take sehr schön!"
I came here from ATC vs Pilots.. Its pretty similar ^^
when they have a drop "all lines take take take take take take take take take" xd
People are just pushing the buttons for the cues that are on the laptop.
....this can be automated.
i need to see this for VCT masters reykjavik.
Woah! How did you get this opportunity?? Through a company or through the tournament itself??
What software did you use to sync the light with music?
Video content and music came from a media playback server (EVS). which includes timecode. light progaming was driven by that timecode.
Really REally Amazing Control room that's is hard work more than Directing a movies scene?
Why don't let everything run via timecode?
a lot of respect 🙏