I don‘t really understand why people talk about video capabilities so much. It‘s a photo camera! If you want everything for video, get yourselves a video camera.
Everyone buys a camera for different reasons. Some for only photo, but others who do both. The biggest competition for Olympus is Panasonic, who is very strong in both regards, so it makes sense, especially when Olympus is touting the video features on this camera to be critical about the video capabilities, especially when they are things that can be fixed via firmware upgrades.
TheCameraProject yes it is hard but just great. Congrats and enjoy the first years. It is wonderful. Maybe you can once make a video telling about your experience filming and photographing children. I have a 1 year old and 4 year old and know exactly how hard it is. All the best!
Thank you for the review which I found really enjoyable. Although I admit to not really needing all the bells and whistles that the camera provides, as I in my seventies , have slight arthritis in my hands and also a noticeable tremor , the enhanced grip and amazing stabilisation justified their value to me. The additional concurrent stabilisation with the 12-100mm lens is an incredible bonus.
Thank you for this review. I was seriously considering this camera as my "backpacking" camera for travel and such. The review helped me understand where this camera fits and it may not be my best choice as I want to do landscape and wildlife.
That was good, thanks. Perhaps your personal camera choices helped spotting all the fine details, which made it more interesting. Any idea what you'll do next? (Oh and it's always fun watching Alison's expression when she isn't the one talking... sorry Josh but I am listening...)
So it's 20MP vs 16, and a newer sensor. I think there are plenty of things that make this camera better, the 5-axis image stabilization is better, the auto focus is FAR better. As for image quality, it is better, but I don't know if it's worth the purchase for that alone. I'd say maybe 1 stop better low light if that. You can see a gallery of the EM5-II and the EM-1II. I believe the EM5-II shares a sensor with the EM1 mI. plus.google.com/b/117370417872902405371/photos/117370417872902405371/album/6479098233229634017?authkey=CMOqop_N55XXPw plus.google.com/b/117370417872902405371/photos/117370417872902405371/album/6479098843656743713?authkey=CIfMvcq39Y6xogE
mabye check DP review image quality page, they have a test picture and you can drop in different cameras, you have to strain your eyes to see any difference, admittedly a test page and maybe not so applicable for real world. I can get some great images out of the EM5mk2, if you are really wanting a significant improvement in image quality you will need to change to Sony A series.
Yep, the E-M1 Mark II is $900- $1000 more than the E-M5 Mark II, but you guys didn't address the improved 20MP sensor in the E-M1 Mark II which the E-M5 does not have. Also, you didn't cover using flash at all with this camera (FL-900R flash).
Yes, we didn't talk much about the sensor because while the extra resolution is certainly appreciated, and there is a bit more dynamic range, we don't find the difference between the sensors will blow most people away. I guess we didn't touch on it much because there have already been a few other 20MP sensors over the last few years, from the GX8 onward. As for the FL-900R, you could use that with the EM5-II as well unless I'm missing something. All this said, the EM1II is a great camera, but depending on your uses cases won't be for everyone.
So now that it is around 700 to 800$ is it worth it now....??? It seemed to be a money issue about this camera...I would rather speed what ever amount to get what I want...but then again..is there any camera that has all you want...I think not.
Vitor Teixeira best mirrorless would be tough to say. I’d say for best micro four thirds it’s between this and the gh5. There are aspects I like better on each
Villiam Hansen we don’t own the camera villiam. So therefore no follow ups. We borrow from Olympus or camera stores or rental houses. This is not a paid review. Sorry if not everything we said was totally positive.
@@TheCameraProject then you should be more focused on the bad things, so the company would ask you again 😉 everything wrong with the m1 when you had it, was fixed in the update 😊 as a reviewer, it's ok to be demanding 😉
TheCameraProject I didn’t say to go through or past the fence. Simple walk up to it and shoot the lens through an opening in the fence links to effectively make it invisible. 😉
Subscribed so you won't die.... but I can unsubscribe if you don't keep on adding new videos. ;-) And Olympus and Panasonic have new lenses you can shoot a 2-4 minute video on, and let us know how you like, or don't. One a week, and we are good. And you won't die. :-)
I don‘t really understand why people talk about video capabilities so much. It‘s a photo camera! If you want everything for video, get yourselves a video camera.
Everyone buys a camera for different reasons. Some for only photo, but others who do both. The biggest competition for Olympus is Panasonic, who is very strong in both regards, so it makes sense, especially when Olympus is touting the video features on this camera to be critical about the video capabilities, especially when they are things that can be fixed via firmware upgrades.
If you want a stills camera, go buy a Leica.
@@Josh-ow4gc for the same price as 3 still photo cameras? I think it's time you stop smoking that weed...
From France, happy to see you again! Long live TheCameraProject!
Waited for this quite a long time! Great that you are back! Now please continue beer and shoot. Always great to watch your videos!
We hope to shoot one soon! They say its hard when you have a 1 year old. "They" are correct!
TheCameraProject yes it is hard but just great. Congrats and enjoy the first years. It is wonderful. Maybe you can once make a video telling about your experience filming and photographing children.
I have a 1 year old and 4 year old and know exactly how hard it is. All the best!
Owned this camera since release, it is amazing and succeeds at whatever I throw at it
Great to have you guys back !
finally you're back
Great to see another review, really enjoyed it..
Log mode available after firmware update version 3.0
Thank you for the review which I found really enjoyable. Although I admit to not really needing all the bells and whistles that the camera provides, as I in my seventies , have slight arthritis in my hands and also a noticeable tremor , the enhanced grip and amazing stabilisation justified their value to me. The additional concurrent stabilisation with the 12-100mm lens is an incredible bonus.
Thank you for this review. I was seriously considering this camera as my "backpacking" camera for travel and such. The review helped me understand where this camera fits and it may not be my best choice as I want to do landscape and wildlife.
Great review, covered many things I wanted to know. Thanks.
I agree about the value of the minimum shutter speed feature. Why can't I just permanently assign that to a dial when in aperture priority?
excellent video as always
I hear you. I also have the EM5 mark 2 and this is an amazing camera, but I can't justify the price myself - not based on what I would need it for.
The buffer isn't filling, it's emptying. The buffer fills as you shoot many frames per second. It empties into the memory card.
Donald Obrien fair point. I misspoke.
That was good, thanks. Perhaps your personal camera choices helped spotting all the fine details, which made it more interesting. Any idea what you'll do next? (Oh and it's always fun watching Alison's expression when she isn't the one talking... sorry Josh but I am listening...)
love these videos! also I'd love to see some more beer and shoot, those were amazing :-)
Per DxO this is actually a pretty significant upgrade in ISO, DR, and color depth. Did you guys not see that improvement?
balboa0621 neither of us shoot w the original em1 but compared to the em5ii it’s better. I wouldn’t say ground breaking though
Welcome back! Nice review as always. Can you do more review on lenses like M.Zuiko 75mm f1.8, Panasonic Leica Nocticron 42.5mm f1.2. Etc?
Holy shit I missed you guys!
the focus! please tell me that was cruddy manual lol. thanks for the video.
Whoever is filming this with the canon DSLR sure has jerky hands. I got dizzy. Nice video BTW.
how is image quality compared to the mark 1, is it worth an upgrade on that alone
So it's 20MP vs 16, and a newer sensor. I think there are plenty of things that make this camera better, the 5-axis image stabilization is better, the auto focus is FAR better. As for image quality, it is better, but I don't know if it's worth the purchase for that alone. I'd say maybe 1 stop better low light if that. You can see a gallery of the EM5-II and the EM-1II. I believe the EM5-II shares a sensor with the EM1 mI.
plus.google.com/b/117370417872902405371/photos/117370417872902405371/album/6479098233229634017?authkey=CMOqop_N55XXPw
plus.google.com/b/117370417872902405371/photos/117370417872902405371/album/6479098843656743713?authkey=CIfMvcq39Y6xogE
mabye check DP review image quality page, they have a test picture and you can drop in different cameras, you have to strain your eyes to see any difference, admittedly a test page and maybe not so applicable for real world. I can get some great images out of the EM5mk2, if you are really wanting a significant improvement in image quality you will need to change to Sony A series.
For photo, it's a small improvement. For video, it's a massive improvement.
Never use your "Jerky Hand".
Did you guys try out High Resolution mode.
Yep, the E-M1 Mark II is $900- $1000 more than the E-M5 Mark II, but you guys didn't address the improved 20MP sensor in the E-M1 Mark II which the E-M5 does not have. Also, you didn't cover using flash at all with this camera (FL-900R flash).
Yes, we didn't talk much about the sensor because while the extra resolution is certainly appreciated, and there is a bit more dynamic range, we don't find the difference between the sensors will blow most people away. I guess we didn't touch on it much because there have already been a few other 20MP sensors over the last few years, from the GX8 onward. As for the FL-900R, you could use that with the EM5-II as well unless I'm missing something.
All this said, the EM1II is a great camera, but depending on your uses cases won't be for everyone.
So now that it is around 700 to 800$ is it worth it now....??? It seemed to be a money issue about this camera...I would rather speed what ever amount to get what I want...but then again..is there any camera that has all you want...I think not.
Kennynva is say for 700-800. Absolutely worth it!
Use a faster card!!!!!!
She has such a nice voice
Great reviews! For all around camera, photo (70%) and video (30%) it is the best mirroless? (5-axis, 4k, greats lens, battery, ergonomie, etc). thks
Vitor Teixeira best mirrorless would be tough to say. I’d say for best micro four thirds it’s between this and the gh5. There are aspects I like better on each
From Portugal, thks you ;)
It's clearing, not filling!!! :)
These 2 reviewers are great............get ahold of a Sony RX10 IV and post!!!!
I'm so tickled by all of these nice comments Josh!!
Best way to see if the reviews are paid by the sponsor, and not done for real. No new reviews after firmware updates that heavily improve the gear.
Villiam Hansen we don’t own the camera villiam. So therefore no follow ups. We borrow from Olympus or camera stores or rental houses. This is not a paid review. Sorry if not everything we said was totally positive.
@@TheCameraProject then you should be more focused on the bad things, so the company would ask you again 😉 everything wrong with the m1 when you had it, was fixed in the update 😊 as a reviewer, it's ok to be demanding 😉
G85 or E-M5ii?
G85
Josh and Alison both use EM5ii ;)
I bought g85 because of the better handling and I am very happy with the decision coming from an omd em 10
G85 every day and twice on Sunday.
Why doesn't he walk 6' closer so the fence isn't in his way?
Robert LeBlanc because then we would get in the way of the game and the players who are on deck
TheCameraProject
I didn’t say to go through or past the fence.
Simple walk up to it and shoot the lens through an opening in the fence links to effectively make it invisible.
😉
I wish we could have. The team dugout was there, and the lens has a pretty big diameter, wouldn't have shot through the fence.
that camera is light. lol, maybe because i carry a canon
entry level? Isnt this a 2000 dollar pro body? lol
brains!I bought the entry level for my big bro last month! the 10mkii! this 1mkii is a beast for photo studio settings!
The last part showed me you guys are biased.
But hey, I'm glad I don't listen to other people's gripes.
MuertoInc everyone has biases. But out of curiosity. Did you mean the wrap up or the video gripe section?
Think it's about time u had some NEW "theme" ( background ) music ... ! ! ! It's now getting a little ( ok, VERY ) Boring ....
Loch Ness Biker but isn’t that the point of a theme? Saves by the Bell didn’t go changing theirs!
Always good to see a review from the channel, tip for Allison, lose the pink hair.....not attractive.
Ha!
Disagree.
Subscribed so you won't die.... but I can unsubscribe if you don't keep on adding new videos. ;-)
And Olympus and Panasonic have new lenses you can shoot a 2-4 minute video on, and let us know how you like, or don't. One a week, and we are good. And you won't die. :-)