Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2025
- Nordic countries are ramping up their defences and rethinking military strategies as the threat from Russia intensifies. The shift from neutrality to enhanced security is reflected in updated advice distributed on what to do in case of war, cyber threats or a possible nuclear strike.
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A little insight into your preparation. After the Cold War, when everyone was tearing up their armies, we Finns bought your equipment at a bargain price. Every year, Finland trains new soldiers as much as you have an active military - for decades. And 80% of its citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves if a superior enemy attacks our homeland.
Do you really think Finland have chance against Russia? Even if you will have more than million soldiers you can't produce ammunition and all equipment in same rate. Better do not provoke Russia.
We will never forgive Finland for Linux
Finland has never faced an "Superior" enemy. The Russians are that bad.
I don't know about the eagerness to sacrifice but Finland for sure has prepared for total defense and has trained generations of military against Russian invasion.
After the cold war*
Finland has been prepared for the war since winter war. We had good relationships with Russia - our next to door country for ages. But attacking Ukraine was NOT OK. It was a war attack to a country Russia does not own.
You were neutral you half wit and you lost half your territory to Russia in the winter war
@@AugustusOmega Karelia wasnt "half" of Finland, but it was taken and now its lost maybe forever. What is your point? Maybe dont talk about things you dont understand.
@@AugustusOmega Barely 20%. Russia is fascist liars.
There have been a myriad of articles and TV reportages of "Finland preparing bomb shelters for war" or "Sweden preparing citizens for war" after spring 2022. Finland has been preparing from 1945, and Sweden also has a long history in civil defense. This is just the first time in several decades when the international media is interested in the Nordic/Baltic seturity policy and civil defense. Some of the journalists who wrote those stories hardly knew there is a country named Finland prior to 2022 and the Finnish and Swedish Nato application.
It is very unlikely (although not impossible) that Russia would launch a large scale military (kinetic) attack against a NATO country any time in the near future, because this would certainly launch the Nato article 5. But Russia is very likely to continue their hybrid warfare, even escalate it, including sabotages and cyber attacks.
Many hybrid attacks have similar effects in civilian population as military attacks. Therefore, preparing civilian population for war is also preparing for hybrid threats.
Every normal human being, military or civilian, feels fear when when their live and the lives of their loved ones are threatened. Having knowledge and training helps to ease the unnecessary, irrational fear. All European countries should inform their population about what to do in crisis situations, no matter if the crisis is a natural disaster, accident, sabotage or war.
That pamphlet is a reprint from the 70s/80s and probably later versions. But there's some added information that wasn't in the older versions. It's not about fear, it's abut preparedness. Not a big deal at all.
I don't have my childhood papers but cyber atatcks and IT seesm to be teh only new part.
It's mostly about stupidity
Yeah sure. Nuclear War is "no big deal at all."
@@PMMagro yeah, cyber attacks and digital dangers overall were new part, and I think psychological coping and community preparedness / helping your neighbour were most extended parts :) in Finland. I am not seeing any difference in 72h food thing at all from what I remember from childhood :D
- "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness" ??? - It must have been very hard for Roundtable to "collect NORDIC PEOPLE to verify/Unverify that headline, hence only 1, a Swede was present in this forum, so, as a Dane I will conclude, that this program WAS NOT ABOUT: "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness", but almost every one elses idea of whats going on in the Nordic Nations & there own.
_ Its NOT completly impossible to get informations regarding whats being planned right now in the Nordic Nations, - they do publicize at LOT about what they plan to do in the near future, if thise projects is warmongering/owerreaction/scared, then I would say, that I want my government to: CONFRONT THE THREATH WE ARE FACING, thats why I have electet them, and pay a high tax, and let me ad, For now, in the short term I am satisfied with what my government, - have done, and plan/will do - and it seems logic to me.
- Now let "round" that issui of "a wish" for friendly commercial relations with your neighbour, - A wish I agree upon, but only if that neighbour also, as me is friendly and thrustworty, if thats not the case, to me it would be outright STUPID NOT to do "some preparations", especially if your a politician electet to TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE, let me also ad that as of NOW, UN Security Council is a NON OPERATIONAL COUNCIEL, so rellying on that organ to solve security problems, is in my opinion PURE NAITIVITISM.
Lets see if you, ROUNDTABLE are worth the time I have spend to write this comment.
Anders Eriksen
What threats are you facing really? The sun will explode, meteor is falling over Denmark, an airplane will fall over your house, a new covid? Threats is everywhere. How likely, that is the question.? Russia is planning to invade Denmark ? Oh boy.
"Nordic" is not only Sweden. I am Swedish but some, the Finns, have been prepared/realistic all along. I remember when the Berlin wall came down and we thought it was going to be all good from now on but.. alas it was not to last.
Unification of Germany always created troubles in Europe.
You never can trust Russia....
We from Finland have long history whit this people
But you can always trust the zyomuricanwest 🤣
@@gmw3083 at least they dont drive nuclear subs up on our soil uninvited. 😏
I don't think there are very unusual increases in war preparedness in Finland at least. During the time of neutrality Finland always had to maintain a reasonable level of preparedness in order to remain safe as a pretty routine thing. If anything I would be more concerned if the war preparedness starts getting decreased while in NATO under the belief that we don't have to rely entirely on ourselves anymore for security.
As an Estonian I see how much preparedness has improved since Feb 2022. As British (dual national) I see how remote the British society is from the topic. Why on Earth ask a clown like Lembit Öpik, who is as removed from Estonia as an average German from Australia. He didn’t say anything, only parroted Kremlin talking points - the conflict between Estonia and Russia is in no one’s interest, blah-blah. You could have chosen a local expert on the topic, not a generalist past politician.
I'm Swedish and I can say that we are not close to being ready 😄
Swedish citizen as well and you're 100% right
well we are ready in finland no worries my friend
Precis. De flesta gör ff ingenting.
Nope! I don’t know anyone who is ready!!!
Sweden was ready to send some of its nato boys to Ukraine. Russia was ready to dust em. So they did..
Fact-check to Shea. Finland is not a Scandinavian country. It is one of five Nordic states. I was disappointed by the lack of Danish, Finnish and Norwegian voices in this debate, and the corresponding lack of direct input from the Baltic states. I was also surprised by the absence of discussion on historic Nordic defence cooperation that pre-dated Finland's and Sweden's accession to NATO, and the deep significance of the Nordic "mini Nato" factor with the Alliance to strengthening regional defence and by extension, and in partnership with the Baltic NATO states, the wider defences of the Baltic Sea region. The evolution and expansion of the Nordic defence concept, via the the longstanding inter-state Nordic Defence Cooperation (NORDEFCO) military led platform, to embrace the Baltic states as key NATO partners, was also omitted from this interesting "roundtable" discussion. Let's not forget, a cohesive modern, robust and joined Nordic defence is seen by governments in the Region and NATO as offering the most effective counter-force to the potential of future aggression and expansionism by Russia. The Nordic and Baltic states, joned in a deep united defence partnership under NATO, provide the first line of real "capable defence" and offense should Russia decide to escalate its aggression and move on any of its Western neighbours. Pamphlets mailed to homes is just a side- show. Russia is a known quantity to Nordic and Baltic states. Their intelligence services, specific to Russia, are the best in the world. There will be no surprise attack by Russia, nor urging by Russian generals to "expand the new empire". These generals, and Putin, are well aware the losses they are suffering in Ukraine currently would pale in comparison to prospective losses against highly prepared and well equipped Nordic militaries that are joined under and supported by the might of NATO. Putin has been the primary agent of aggression and fan of expansionism. One day he will be "gone" and Russia will be able to reset its relationships with neighbours and normalise relations with "the West".
Yes, the Nordics nations have responded to a higher degree to the Ukraine invasion, than rest of Europe, it's maybe easier for smaller countries to be agile. However, since Cold War ended, Nordics did the same as rest of Europe, down sized their armies and there is nothing left now, except in Finland which can mobilise 280,000.
The military spending after 1990, Sweden and Denmark dropped down to 1% of GDP. Finland wasn't that much better, spent around 1.3% of GDP, the best in class was Norway running military budgets around 1.5% of GDP. The problem is, when doing that for 20-30 years it take time to rebuild military capacity.
There is a long way to go, Norway, Sweden, Denmark need to scale their military reserves, it's really not impressive by Sweden, the plan is to go to 4 brigades, but they only ordered 48 more Archer artillery, so they only scaling artillery for 3 brigades and maybe the plan is empty political talk. Norway say they scale to 3 brigades, but only have tanks and artillery on order for one brigade. Danes send support to Ukraine, but is lacking on programs, getting land based air defence is nothing to brag about. The Finns, have a major air force upgrade coming and will double their K9 155mm howitzers with 48 more units, their tanks are very dated and could use an upgrade.
The humanity is without hope. Humans are mad.
Sweden is not neutral and has not been since 1939. Sweden actively supported Norway and Finland during WW2. Sweden is also a NATO member.
You should probably also mention that they actively supported the Nazi war effort by trading with them.
@@Emanon...That what small nations has to do to surviv
@@Emanon... and letting nazi troops pass through to invade norway but an important thing sweden did do was provide commandos who had just a done sabotage mission and norwegian resistance fighters and jews and others hunted by the nazis a safezone as the SS was not allowed into sweden
Nato is novo notzee
@@msksuhr3121 no, get your facts right. Sweden didnt let nazis pass to invade norway, we let the nazis pass to help Finland against russia. My granparents who lived at the norwegian border even helped norwegian soldiers flee from german soldiers.
Nordic nations. Prime example of almost perfect nations
Till they started letting certain groups in that should have never touched the soils of! They should stay out of Scandinavia, British Isles to sum it up, Germany and other places! All they do is corrupt it and destroy it over time!
Btw, I am Swedish, a sweet dish! 🤣😂👍😁🩷😎💚🎯
Making up news of pretty much nothing.. That pamphlet they are referring to has been published in different editions since WWII. This is just another update. Ofcourse, since (unlike the Finns) put down our civil defence authorities in the 2000's, it needs to be rebuilt. & We also need to rebuild our defence a bit. But it's a lot less dramatic than it's made out to be here..🧐 All this we have done before, & now we will do it again..
Wait until Trump pulls the USA out of NATO. You really think Russia is not going to take advantage of that?
No fear! Fight!
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Human lives are to be prioritized before animal lives. It's mind boggling how some people care more about animals than actual human beings 🤦🏻♀️
Are they going to war against each other again?
Being prepared and maybe scared is one thing, but too few news organisations AND the officials fail to remind people that Europe has a GNP that is TEN times that of Russia, a population that is almost FIVE times that of Russia and an industrial power that far outweighs that of Russia. The Ukraine war has shown that we need to upgrade the defence industry in Europe, to be less dependent on the US and to be able to logistically follow up, if needed. Furthermore, Europe has more than enough nuclear weapons to respond, if needed.
It is important to psychologically remind the population of these facts. Russia is only a giant in landmass, but a dwarf economically! Respect her by all means, but do not make hrer into something she is not, namely invincible and bigger than she is.
With respect to preparedness, all Nordic nations have populations that have been doing military service since 1945, are well trained, both physically and often in weaponry. Russia would have a hell of a time, if it was stupid enough to attack the Nordic nations and NATO!
This just keeps getting better
Aint life grand
After that it took few days and my health came back. I got my sleeping back and my heart started to calm down. I started to gain weight. Blood pressure went back to normal and finally I got all my hairs back. This Is very short version what happend to me but I was close to death. God Is real and loves us very much. When you begin to seek God you Will find True love. Read the Bible too please because its a perfect book. Thats how you know God Is real💕🙏. Read what Jesus told because its perfect talk💕🙏
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This is a message from your loving God.
God is a loving God and want to save us all.
God dont want anybody to suffer or have a hard life. Meaning of life is love and that's what God wants. Thats the meaning of life. If we would take care and love each other that would solve all the problems. But world is not like that. World is a sinful world. God dont destroy this world but we humans do. His immediately ready if you want to serve him. God will show you the right path what leads to life. Its a path of love. God made us and have eternal love and mercy. This world is not what God wanted. But he gave us free will. You can choose good or bad. Thats why he send he's only son Jesus that we had mercy. Jesus is God too because he is God's only son. Now this world have went to very wicked and our God is crying. So many peoples are on the path of destruction. World have allways been wicked but now is extremely bad times going on. God want's peoples to come back to serve him and he wants to give forever life and happiness. God is a God of love, mercy, justice and a judgment.
He love us peoples as much as hes son Jesus.
There is one big lie going on this world. Its an evolution lie. First please think this thing. Why all the fruits, berrys and vegetables taste so good? Anybody can go to own home kitchen and try to do the same taste. Then look up please and watch those extremely beautiful birds. Do you really believe birds came from dinosaurs? We need very light bones, right size, correct shape, a bird's beak and feathers. And the same time birds are very beautiful. I send only these two questions to evolution professor and nothing came back(Why berries taste so good and how those little birds survived without wings)
Then they say evolution gave animals camoflash to survive. Well if we look black panther. They say it's black because it's a night-time hunter and that black color also give it protection during night-time. First thing: evolution dont have brains and it gave that black color they say. Second thing: Please think how many shades of colors are and all animal have to be black.
Third thing: Then they say there were many panthers with another color also and the best color was left. Because it's the best color in the nigh time. This is a lie also because: if you think like evolutionist's: the animals system also have to know to do black anymore. Rabbit is also brown when it's a summer and white when it's a winter. We need intelligence to do that.
They say also evolution develops animals or Humans what kind of element we live. Why then fish have gills and whale have lungs? They say first came the first cell and that was finally a fish. And then finally fish came to land and it was frog or something.
But thats inpossible because gills should also transform to lungs under the water. They brake their own logic when they say that. And how about a whale. Whale proves also God is real because it have lungs. Theory of evolution tells everything started from ocean.
They also say that plants came from ocean and thats why we have now.
Thats a lie because:
The plants have an underwater pollination system. If something comes to the beach it will die for it. And they are breaking their logic again. Fish and other water animals and plants belong to sea.
Only our loving God can create life and everything what we humans and animals need. People can try to think but the deeper we try to dig the more lost we are. We cant ever create life from nothing.
A simple car engine also needs its maker, parts, fuel and the right structure to work.
I had health problems about six years ago. Finally it was so bad i thought im gonna die. My heart was beating fast. My blood pressure was high. Then i started to lose my energy. When i try to walk my legs felt heavy and my stamina went very bad also. Then i started losing my sleep. Eventually i crashed a little into the road and asked God and Jesus to help. Finally I started to run in the toilet all the time too. Then the very awful thing came. I lost fastly almost all my ability to sleep and I started to loose my weight. Blood came out of my nose and I started to lost my hairs too. I visit hospitals and private hospitals too but they couldn't help me. They gave me beta blockers to my heart and finally medicine to my high blood pressure too. I wanted to get inside the hospital but they refused to take me in. In private hospitals they couldn't understand why they dont take me in the main hospital. Finally I contact to other country and I asked can you take me in the hospital. Then they asked where are you here? I told im in the other country and I need a help. But they told me we cant take you in because you dont live here. So I can tell you money didnt help me. Later I told my family im gonna die very soon because I felt completely awful. Finally I asked again God to help me. Then finally my Mother saw one Angel vision and three Jesus vision. After that it took few days and my health came back.
got my sleeping back and my heart started to calm down. I started to gain weight. Blood pressure went back to normal and finally I got all my hairs back. This Is very short version what happend to me but I was close to death. God Is real and loves us very much. When you begin to seek God you Will find True love. Read the Bible too please because its a perfect book. Thats how you know God Is real💕🙏. Read what Jesus told because its perfect talk💕🙏
Well we are all Europeans but of course we can't trust the Americans so it's probably good to prepare. But what about economic and diplomatic warfare. Also do we need a common paramilitary squad. Maybe we should form a sort of European CIA with a paramilitary wing, a diplomatic war wing, and economic war wing. I'm willing to form the whole organisation and hand it over once someone suitable to run it can be found. I'll be sort of like the Allen Dulles of said organisation.
If you don't understand why Russia is in Ukraine then you can call Washington and arsk what they say if China build military bases in Mexico. And next time USA invade a country Russia can give this country wapens to attack inside USA right stop this nonsens
Allen Dulles was a war mongering monster. And made a fortune off the death and destruction of countries. HOW ABOUT DIPLOMACY? HOWABOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE?
Ha, nooo absolutely not going to do any good having any kind of CIA, the United States has had it for a long time and it's only corrupt! There's absolutely nothing good about that agency! I don't trust anybody in office and Government no matter what county it is! They've all proven to be crooked over time! The only thing people can do is trust the citizens, or at least certain ones anyway! The United States Government and Military has gone the ways of Sodom and Gomorrah and very corrupt officials especially the Biden administration!
A very intelligent system to create fear deep inside the soul. A very sad story who takes five generetions to remove this fear.
Whatever happens now, do not trust NATO or EU under any circumstances. 5th article seems to be just "talking". In my opinion, NATO never ever can activate that article, much less support any country militarily. Fact.
As a Dane I don't recognize this - we do nothing here we almost don't even have a military our ships have no missiles and we have no artillery
You are russian
And you didnt in ww2 either.😮
I guess Denmark and Iceland are the ones preparing the least then. The other Nordics are making various preparations and changes, and are trying to strenghten themselves as well.
Danish frigates do have missile systems, as do the air forces US bought front-line fighters. Danish army does have tanks and land- based mechanised units, just not enough of them to make much of a difference against a major hostile attack. The Danish defence system is constructed to delay rather than fight offensively on initial contact with the enemy. It is what it is, but Danish defence and security policy has always relied on NATO as its first and last line of defence.
Sweden was ready during the cold war. The military began to be dismantled after the collapse of the sovjet union
You either know it or you dont given the test of the theory in a game where the odds are against you if you play it by multiple choice versus essay question with regard to who will be coming to whose rescue given the question of identity. Keep in mind that identity is expected to be based on individual identity rather than international given group effort. And yet the goal of ones opponent already is to do just that when it comes to the primary objective (when ine country is out to get another)
And how is this possible? Because the makeup of that collective identity by pact become a fusion of those individual identites into is assimilated form. And if the cause given the reason for that pact is continuous, it would only take one opponent to keep it in restimulation (and without a day of battle to do it)
Further, as long as that pact remains in a defense position and there is no bluff to be called, the individual identities can remain individual as intended. (And this may explain why policy and enforcement among the members were lax leaving them more as 'participants' instead (the very weakness as exploited by player 1 cause 1)
SIM analysis:
That weakness being the reason why Nato cant come to Ukraines defense in order to preserve their own security.
And this has to do with policy and enforcement with regard to the switch of condition given the primary objective given its members 'status.' (Where you actually have to be a 'member.')
And yet what you have is a modification of doctrine given terms and conditions given efforts prior to event 1 (feb2022) where the defensive position taken has become an offensive position.
And this isnt worst case yet despite this modification because given feb 24th that bluff was called by their number 1 opponent (no guess who) where the expected result given this modification by position should have led to the expected action (by this position, but it wasnt!)
Keep in mind that this move (or lack of) has R factored for this opponent given the intentions behind their primary objective (and one where his opponents cannot disclose that reveal, but otherwise, it is no mystery to him (as lead by condition) what their intentions comtinue to be. 😉)
{Notes on the strategy: this is important to understand for the sake of process-progress, the reason being the modification of doctrine as well as the condition at play that subjects this doctrine to win-lose standards over right and wrong (given its policies and enforcements where progress is stifled because policy works by the alternate condition with regard to right-wrong standards (objective-cause) rather than by win-lose (conflict-effect) standards. (If it is to be fair and civil.) And without process you do not have progress. And without progress you do not have sums by score in order to achieve the objective given that process. (In this case the process being this treaty.)}
Well Sweden and Finland abandoned the neutrality (even if it was only a nominal and not a factual one) and joined NATO. The fact that you've just become a potential target on a Russian radars shouldn't surprise anyone.
Sweden and Finland prepared during the previous Cold War as well. By invading Ukraine, Russia made itself the target of military preparations in neighboring countries.
The ORCS have been a punchline for 3 years 😂😂😂
I don’t think we humans will get to 2036
They were no match against the North Korean special forces in Ukraine.
Ageing demographics. Where are the soldiers to come from considering just a conventional war (Russia vs NATO) ? 500k casualties minimum. The immigrants welcomed in Europe (hated at the same time), to bolster the workforce will not fight.
And how do nordics train to absorb 100 miliradian of radiation?
Russians may not be the sharpest tools in the shed but they are not suicidal.
Yeah 3 day's of supplies should do it. Get real people this is total fear mongering.
Put some ice in your helmet 😂
It's only Nuclear War. Don't worry about anything. Don't worry your pretty little head.
The Nords , Skyrim!
Dude it's russia ... Europe is up against
What a load of propaganda rubbish
Vatnik offended 😂
Fear mongering
This war isn t like the problem betweem palestine and israel
We swedes will never give up 💪🏻
Ha ha ha, we did when we join Nato 👎
you have a digital gun registry, russians know every (legal) weapon in sweden and you banned most weapons of military value (semi automatic rifles), and what you have left of an army are small, if the russians allies with the muslims (like turkey/iran, which is exactly what they do) you have a million insurgents inside sweden... youre toast.
@@ixoye56 No. We reload.
@@someonethatisachristianyes, we are toast 😢
@@arneedlund8512 Dont put your trust in anything in this world, trust in Jesus Christ, rapture of his blood bought church is getting close. PS: Jeg er norsk.
Nice speech, Lembit Öpik
😂 Fearmongering 😂
The never ending proxy ⁉️
There's too much info on the internet for you to lie said. Julian Assange 😂
this is a joke
Hello how are you? I want to share you
This is a message from your loving God.
God is a loving God and want to save us all.
God dont want anybody to suffer or have a hard life. Meaning of life is love and that's what God wants. Thats the meaning of life. If we would take care and love each other that would solve all the problems. But world is not like that. World is a sinful world. God dont destroy this world but we humans do. His immediately ready if you want to serve him. God will show you the right path what leads to life. Its a path of love. God made us and have eternal love and mercy. This world is not what God wanted. But he gave us free will. You can choose good or bad. Thats why he send he's only son Jesus that we had mercy. Jesus is God too because he is God's only son. Now this world have went to very wicked and our God is crying. So many peoples are on the path of destruction. World have allways been wicked but now is extremely bad times going on. God want's peoples to come back to serve him and he wants to give forever life and happiness. God is a God of love, mercy, justice and a judgment.
He love us peoples as much as hes son Jesus.
There is one big lie going on this world. Its an evolution lie. First please think this thing. Why all the fruits, berrys and vegetables taste so good? Anybody can go to own home kitchen and try to do the same taste. Then look up please and watch those extremely beautiful birds. Do you really believe birds came from dinosaurs? We need very light bones, right size, correct shape, a bird's beak and feathers. And the same time birds are very beautiful. I send only these two questions to evolution professor and nothing came back(Why berries taste so good and how those little birds survived without wings)
Then they say evolution gave animals camoflash to survive. Well if we look black panther. They say it's black because it's a night-time hunter and that black color also give it protection during night-time. First thing: evolution dont have brains and it gave that black color they say. Second thing: Please think how many shades of colors are and all animal have to be black.
Third thing: Then they say there were many panthers with another color also and the best color was left. Because it's the best color in the nigh time. This is a lie also because: if you think like evolutionist's: the animals system also have to know to do black anymore. Rabbit is also brown when it's a summer and white when it's a winter. We need intelligence to do that.
They say also evolution develops animals or Humans what kind of element we live. Why then fish have gills and whale have lungs? They say first came the first cell and that was finally a fish. And then finally fish came to land and it was frog or something.
But thats inpossible because gills should also transform to lungs under the water. They brake their own logic when they say that. And how about a whale. Whale proves also God is real because it have lungs. Theory of evolution tells everything started from ocean.
They also say that plants came from ocean and thats why we have now.
Thats a lie because:
The plants have an underwater pollination system. If something comes to the beach it will die for it. And they are breaking their logic again. Fish and other water animals and plants belong to sea.
Only our loving God can create life and everything what we humans and animals need. People can try to think but the deeper we try to dig the more lost we are. We cant ever create life from nothing.
A simple car engine also needs its maker, parts, fuel and the right structure to work.
I had health problems about six years ago. Finally it was so bad i thought im gonna die. My heart was beating fast. My blood pressure was high. Then i started to lose my energy. When i try to walk my legs felt heavy and my stamina went very bad also. Then i started losing my sleep. Eventually i crashed a little into the road and asked God and Jesus to help. Finally I started to run in the toilet all the time too. Then the very awful thing came. I lost fastly almost all my ability to sleep and I started to loose my weight. Blood came out of my nose and I started to lost my hairs too. I visit hospitals and private hospitals too but they couldn't help me. They gave me beta blockers to my heart and finally medicine to my high blood pressure too. I wanted to get inside the hospital but they refused to take me in. In private hospitals they couldn't understand why they dont take me in the main hospital. Finally I contact to other country and I asked can you take me in the hospital. Then they asked where are you here? I told im in the other country and I need a help. But they told me we cant take you in because you dont live here. So I can tell you money didnt help me. Later I told my family im gonna die very soon because I felt completely awful. Finally I asked again God to help me. Then finally my Mother saw one Angel vision and three Jesus vision. After that it took few days and my health came back.
It is about Norway being richest country per capita in the World because of Russian aggression in Ukraine
and Not about Russian aggression on Nordic countries.
Yesh Well Hi WW3
Utter ignorance to claim Nordics are doing anything as to ”break the tradition of tranquility” or such nonsense. Nordics have always been prepared and preparedness IS the synonym for peace and tranquility. I don’t know if it’s stupidity or ignorance or both the channel sports, but please stop making yourselves look and sound like IDIOTS.
jeg fjerner både nato evner, og rusland evner. mm millitært.
It's a mistake for Finland and Sweden to break away from neutrality. If you install missiles in your territories, it attracts a first response. This may not be a conventional weapon for which you are readying.
Psst network of 54 000 of Nuclear shelters for whole population of civilians dig since 60's. So what are you planing to do habib ?
It was not a mistake. Ruzzians trying to expand westwards Would be a mistake.🧐 Keep in mind Finland & Sweden has had to deal with the Muscovites for centuries, this time we will have more allies.
@@leifiseland1218okay..
Nobody in Finland and Sweden trusts those fascist Russians. Better to be under nuclear umbrella of NATO of 32 nations. Russia just postures, it is a backward developing nation.
Russia telling us what we can do or not was the big mistake. It forced our hands. I whoud prefer IF we had been really neutral like Switzerland but that was given up already after WW2. We have never had nuclear weapons so when being threathened with them we kind of have to try look for something.
Use your rubels while they still have meaningful value left dear.
Russia needs bosporus
Russia needs the EU and the US to stop trying to destroy her.
Russia can forget about the Bosporus. It can’t even take Donbas.
Is this show for people with learning difficulties? The reporting is primitive and years behind
How about using diplomatic means, considering that Putin was in the beginning 100% ready to join the Western world, G8, Nato, the EU and so on. Why don't you start asking yourselves why nobody was willing to take him seriously? Why the US didn't help Russia in the same way as all other former Soviet countries and threw them into the most devastating economic depression ever experienced in the modern world?
It was pure racism and cultural hatred against RF. In 2010 Putin asked for Russia to integrate NATO and they refused. This could have secured world peace for generations
😂 "svenska dagbladet"
Hate this bs. As if anyone wins a nuclear war.
Hundreds of thousands, majority Russians, have been killed in Putler’s war on Ukraine since 2022, without nukes. NATO members near Russia can/should prepare and learn from recent history.
wow NATO membership worked well 👍👍👍
The us at work bringing fear and war to a neighborhood near you.😮
No that's Russia , you must drink Putins milk? Lol
Nah, that’s Russia Vatnik. It invaded a neighboring country to steal land. Putler’s war has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, majority Russians.
No worries in Sweden they have Pride parade military.. 🤣🤣🤣
These are the consequences of joining NATO. Neutrality to war otherwise Neutrality to NATO
Before joining NATO risk of war zero.
After joining NATO risk of war high due to Nordic countries becoming more subservient to US policy decisions.
Note if a people need a pamphlet to tell them how to prepare for anything tells me you guys don’t have a strong independent soul as you need someone to tell you what to do.
They have strong independent souls and can vote. Sheeple in corrupt dictatorships like Russia however have not choice. They need a fuhrer to think and decide for them. The nordics have no interest in becoming part of a Russian sphere of influence. Did you read the Russian don corleone letter to DC and Brussels Dec. 2021. There is the reason why Finland and Sweden applied for membership.
We 🇫🇮can put about 1MILLION Soldiers in arms Who are trained. Who many trained soldiers do you have?
Nordic countries 😂
Rusia is so weak to invade another country and even after 1000 days Rusia still harping on the small land size captured from Ukraine border and how many of you think Rusia can win over this war and invade.>??????? come on please wake up..
NATO is preparing not for defense, but for invasion. Russia is provoked and forced to attack one of the NATO countries, followed by a full-scale NATO invasion of Russia. Russia's unprovoked invasion of NATO is nonsense. NATO is too strong and big. but NATO can afford it. but wants to remain pure in history.
Russians control small area like 23% of Ukraine. Little insignificant chunk 🤣
oerchè non ocmbattono gli invasori afro islamici?
Let's not forget Russia blew up their own gas pipeline
Russia did not blow up it's own gaspipe. Russia could've just turn off the tap if they wanted.
America blew up the Russian /European gas pipeline.
"Apparently only the Nordic contracts are sane"I thought this until that woman mentioned that they are worried about their pets in case of war. Apparently Europe is insane and irrational!
Not insane, thorough.
Finns are certainly not afraid. Most consider Russian army to be crappier than it was during Winter War and Continuation War over 80 years ago.
well, if know already what to do ourselves, can't we care for the furry ones as well? lol. We do have civil defense shelter in every apartment building in Finland, but they unfortunately cannot house pets. And it's just a fact of life people need to make those tough decisions of leaving their pets behind. Sure if was a bit funny to mentioned it on the tv, but you're over reacting.
Although... your profile is made in 2022 and it's pretty empty. So are you a Russian bot?
RESIST ALL CONSCRIPTION ENSLAVEMENT.
If you are obliged to enjoy the privileges of your country, you are also obliged to defend them.
Tell that to Putler and his sheeple 😂
From the safety of neutrality to top on the Russian list for preemptive nuclear demolition...
What a stupid decision!
Are you commenting about the war Putin started? It was indeed very stupid.
@iam5085 Putin started?
You clearly have no clue about the subject.
Your sources are sure limited to the comedian with an expired presidential mandate or straight from the pentagon.
Get better informed and grow up!
@@fingerprint8479 LMAO, calmn down, even a child knows what i told is true.
@@fingerprint8479 You are truly something else!
Didn't Russia attack Ukraine? You seem to think that it didn't... Please give some proof of that!
PS. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.
@@iam5085 Sure, a Child exposed to western propaganda will sure be dumb enough to align with your nonsense! Hahahaha Hahahaha
Consequences of joining NATO under US hegemony
Consequences of Trump pulling out of NATO you mean. When has a NATO member last been attacked and who was it? 9-11 USA attack. That's about all.
No 😅, the war in Ukraine is the reason why Nato is now larger than ever. Without it, Finland could have the next invasion target, but we are now safe - never alone anymore. Russia needs to just cope, 'there is a reaction for every (stupid) action'.
Consequence of the illegal and internationally condemned Russian invasion of Ukraine.
😂😂😂😂😂
Nordic nations. Prime example of almost perfect nations
Except they are being ruined by mass immigration.
@@dredubz5825 I recommend checking your sources, that problem is mostly a Swedish problem, in other Nordic countries the situation is under control, especially in Finland, of course we have our own problems related to the same issue but literally on a thousand times smaller scale
@ yes, sorry, you are correct. Sweden is the worst by far, but I’ve heard Norway isn’t great with it either. I’m glad the other Nordic countries have been stricter with it. There is no going back.
@@dredubz5825 The problems here wouldn't even be this far if certain representatives of the left and media and other parties had listened to people instead of just labeling everyone who criticized immigration as "racist, Nazi and far-right". Fortunately, that has stopped and nowadays we realize that objective criticism and talking about facts are not isms but facts.. Norway is not as bad as you think, I have several acquaintances in Norway, both in the south and in the north, and I haven't heard similar horror stories from them as from my Swedish acquaintances.
@ ok that is good to hear. It’s still pretty hard to talk about this issue in Sweden without being branded “ racist”. I had heard this from some in Norway that it is bad, but they maybe don’t realise that it’s not compared to Sweden? I used to work in Oslo and it seemed to be a pretty big issue there also. 🤷🏻♀️