BBC Rough Justice: The Case of the Missing Meal

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • The Case of the Missing Meal (first broadcast 9 November 1983) - reinvestigation of the conviction of George Beattie for the murder of Margaret McLaughlin at Carluke, South Lanarkshire.
    GEORGE Beattie's nightmare began in 1973 when a young woman, Margaret
    McLaughlin, was stabbed to death in Carluke. The new evidence Rough Justice produced in 1983 showed the murder took place hours later than the police thought
    -- when Beattie, 19, had a cast-iron alibi.

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  • @michaelc3051
    @michaelc3051 3 роки тому +14

    Many Thanks for uploading this. You would hope that today there would be no chance of a conviction on that evidence. In fact, you would hope it wouldn't get to trial. The murder of a young woman always creates panic in the local area and police want it solved quickly. Sadly for Beattie, he took the fall for it. His story about the killers in tops hats covered in mirrors should alone have set alarms bells ringing immediately, alerting police that their suspect was vulnerable and suggestable.

    • @CentreDivide
      @CentreDivide  3 роки тому +6

      I always come away from reading accounts of miscarriages of justice and realising that in a pressured and tense police investiation when the cops have only 1 suspect and are determiend to try convict them. In that situation just 1 or 2 mis spoken words is all it takes. I recall listneing to teh Brendan Dassey Audio of his police interview at the school. It was terrfiying to listen too, as the potential for a learning disabled teenager to say yes to the wrong question or say the wrong thing seems perilous. Knowing when to talk to police and when to say nothing is tricky.

    • @Chonoryokusha
      @Chonoryokusha 3 роки тому +3

      @@CentreDivide Note also that cases like George Beattie, Stefan Kisko, et al also involve "confessions" coerced from intellectually simple people who are easy to confuse and thus easy to lead to where the interrogator want to take them.

    • @sashaboo72
      @sashaboo72 2 роки тому +2

      @@CentreDivide Thankyou so much for these uploads. I much prefer these earlier episodes of Rough Justice, but unfortunately there isn’t many available on UA-cam.

  • @breeze1472
    @breeze1472 Рік тому +5

    terrible injustice as people have said wouldnt get past the CPS today I hope justice is done

  • @DebsMcC69
    @DebsMcC69 3 роки тому +4

    Some great uploads! Thank you 😊

  • @tracyhodgkins7516
    @tracyhodgkins7516 10 місяців тому +4

    I don’t see how the police could have had enough evidence to charge Beattie, let alone get a case to trial. Having worked for a charity that, amongst other things, provided vulnerable adults with support in the event of being arrested, someone to sit in with the person who has been arrested and support them to ensure they understand proceedings during police interview, I don’t see how they couldn’t work out this man was vulnerable and suggestible. How they got a conviction I’ll never know, because they had no evidence. Then again, Beattie would hardly have the first person to be charged with an offence he didn’t commit, or the first person to find himself in prison, except now the alleged offences are not murder, they are alleged sexual offences. You can usually prove you haven’t committed a murder, even if it takes a while, but it can be horrific if you’re accused of a sexual offence from 20, 30, 40, even 50 years previously. You know you are innocent. In their soul the accuser knows you are innocent, but in a country where innocent until proven guilty has been turned on it’s head to guilty until proven innocent, you have to prove you haven’t done anything while the accuser is automatically believed and gets lifelong anonymity.

  • @stevebbuk9557
    @stevebbuk9557 10 місяців тому +2

    Did he have an explanation for the speck of blood on his handkerchief? What was the victim doing from 8pm to midnight if she was killed around the latter time?

  • @tonydoherty2190
    @tonydoherty2190 Рік тому +6

    Its criminal that this show was cancelled just trying to get justice for innocent people think about it could easily be me or you wrongfully convicted this programme needs to be back on the ccrc aren't fit for purpose

  • @simonpearn479
    @simonpearn479 Місяць тому +1

    Was he ever released? And this is just a brilliant TV series!!!

  • @soylentgreennewdealtimeshare
    @soylentgreennewdealtimeshare Рік тому +2

    It's laughable that anyone suggests that the system that handled this chap then has today become less corrupt, contemptible or inept; moreover that, now, in perhaps the darkest days, it is beyond reproach. The fact that the minds of the masses are so maleable and easily policed by an entire spectrum of false authority transmitted through the technical junctions that surplant independent thought and natural interaction means that today's institutional injustices are just as glaring and brazen, while being applauded in the street by the victims whose complacency often amounts to complicity.

    • @CentreDivide
      @CentreDivide  Рік тому

      I agree the need for effective counsel, true accountability for prosecutional misconduct, and authentic appeal systems that are reformed to be more substantial and reformed to examine facts outside the law, and retesting of forensic science etcc.. we really have failed in the last 2 decades. There have been many acheivements, particuarly in America, and we have a better system for children. However the old classic court system with the Judge and Jury has regressed and technology has grown and expanded so quickly that unless we radically bring in accountability we will simply lose what is left of the classic court system. It will be all nano chips and Ai assisted rulings. The legal system and the chance at human accountability will be lost.

  • @bonsaibiker5378
    @bonsaibiker5378 6 місяців тому +1

    as anybody got any more of theses can only find a handful

  • @tegwenhafparry7488
    @tegwenhafparry7488 2 роки тому +4

    If I'm right I think Professor David Wilson has written a book about this story as he knew the family

    • @neeksbanpaiyo6683
      @neeksbanpaiyo6683 2 роки тому +1

      he has written a book wich is good , also goes more in depth about how the police handled the whole situation , i thought was great as most of the things we hear was about how george said or did something , David also tried to interview another man who isnt much help, but who may or may not have had something to do with it , well worth the read

  • @bonniegrundy8781
    @bonniegrundy8781 Рік тому +2

    Why don't they do DNA testing now. It is so advanced now. That would tell the real truth!

  • @robmccutcheon1930
    @robmccutcheon1930 Рік тому +3

    Agree with earlier david jessel brilliant at this and trial and error
    Truth is programs like this make the police look pathetic thats why its cancelled......

  • @Ladyjojo695
    @Ladyjojo695 Рік тому +1

    And now you have Luke Mitchell inside who is innocent

  • @thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010
    @thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 3 роки тому +5

    What happened to him?

    • @ianbousfield5007
      @ianbousfield5007 3 роки тому +17

      George beattie was released on licence in August 1986.To this day he still fights to clear his name and find the real killer.Another local man has since emerged as a suspect but he died over 10 years ago

    • @traceypace92
      @traceypace92 3 роки тому +3

      Cheers for that

    • @thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010
      @thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 3 роки тому +6

      @@ianbousfield5007They fecked up his life.

  • @bossendenwoodconvict
    @bossendenwoodconvict 3 роки тому +6

    Slade brought me here.

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 3 роки тому +1

      ???

    • @juliemarshall7913
      @juliemarshall7913 3 роки тому +3

      @David Holstock spot on 🤩

    • @bossendenwoodconvict
      @bossendenwoodconvict 3 роки тому +6

      @@09weenic I had a train of thought..was thinking about Slade, glamrock etc and their bizarre image (top hats with mirrors.) Then remembered that Rough Justice did a programme in which a guy had said he came across some men wearing top hats and mirrors near a crime scene in Scotland. It was just a vague memory, and I had not seen the programme for over 30 years! Thanks to the wonders of modern technology (youtube) plus too much time on my hands (semi lockdown) here I am. So Slade brought me here.

    • @factorylad5071
      @factorylad5071 2 роки тому +2

      @@bossendenwoodconvict Noddy Holder bought his top hat off Freddie Mercury when he worked a stall on Kensington Market but it is a complete red herrings in relation to this case. I think the mystery music clue here is ;
      Meaty , Beattie , Big and Bouncy
      The Who's first album.

  • @fci1
    @fci1 9 днів тому

    So, slade done it then?