@actucker85 I can agree with the judging, I just meant it was based on what the panel thought individually and could have gone either way. Devs parts, however, were far more difficult, this coming from someone who's a Cavies fanboy and has been in a DCI front ensemble. The mallets independence during four mallet permutations, PERFORMANCE VALUE
@actucker85 Like I said, to each his own. AK told me he thought it was among the hardest books he's ever seen (he teaches at my high school every now and then), but Dan Brian was a huge fan of Cavies this year as well, and he knows his stuff as well as any of us. Out of curiosity, where did you march?
@brueck4 Pippitone is an ex Dev, and scored Cavs higher. Prosperie has no association with either corps and scored Cavs higher. Kristenson, the only one who ranked Devs higher, is an ex Vanguard guy. I'd say it was a pretty non biased panel when looking at how they scored the groups.
@brueck4 If you think long scalar runs played by the entire mallet section is the measure of a front ensemble, you need to pay more attention. The Cavs were playing one of the most complex front ensemble books on the road last summer. They played runs, a ton of intricate 4 mallet stuff, and rhythmic demands that nobody else even attempted. They did all of that with uniform attention to phrasing, musicality and ensemble blend. Devs were impressive, don't get me wrong. Cavs were just better.
@actucker85 I agree with Cavies deserving the title, but Front Ensemble advantage was Devs, no questions asked, they had longer, harder, and cleaner runs, and Cavs almost never had their full mallet ensemble doing the whole runs, and there were lots of easier spots when they weren't featured. Also remember, Devs won drums prelims when AK judged, by three tenths. That's a big spread that suddenly changed after an ex-Cavie judged semis and finals.
@brueck4 I don't really like to talk about where I marched/teach on the net. I'm pretty opinionated, and while I try to keep my comments professional, I wouldn't want someone taking my opinions as that of my organizations. Its all opinion, and I'm all for good conversation this stuff (hey, its what I do for a living), but things can get miscostrued in a form like this.
@JakeAFTaylor Wow. Cavs book was easy? You need to listen again. Devs had a great year, but they weren't nearly as good as Cavs, and that's not even talking about the front ensemble which was advantage Cavs by a long shot.
@brueck4 Yeah, still not buying it. I've marched/taught my share of fronts, and while BD certainly had some stuff that required a lot of chops, they weren't attempting anything near the depth of vocabulary, rhythmic complexity, or musical maturity that the Cavs were. Again, I'm not trashing their front, but the Cavs book required far more ability, and they played it cleaner. They were the better front.
I love Scott Johnson's face at 1:21 after the quad lick. GO CHRIS!
lmfao Scojo turned around with that huge ass smile on his face after the tenors played those sweeps at 1:18
Best tenors in the land...
@actucker85 Ah I see. Well that's very professional, thank you for representing our industry well sir.
now, i know what love is
I know BD snares is where most of the opinion from the public is about, but damn, the Tenors know where it's at!!!
@actucker85 I can agree with the judging, I just meant it was based on what the panel thought individually and could have gone either way. Devs parts, however, were far more difficult, this coming from someone who's a Cavies fanboy and has been in a DCI front ensemble. The mallets independence during four mallet permutations, PERFORMANCE VALUE
@actucker85 Like I said, to each his own. AK told me he thought it was among the hardest books he's ever seen (he teaches at my high school every now and then), but Dan Brian was a huge fan of Cavies this year as well, and he knows his stuff as well as any of us. Out of curiosity, where did you march?
@brueck4 Pippitone is an ex Dev, and scored Cavs higher. Prosperie has no association with either corps and scored Cavs higher. Kristenson, the only one who ranked Devs higher, is an ex Vanguard guy. I'd say it was a pretty non biased panel when looking at how they scored the groups.
@brueck4 If you think long scalar runs played by the entire mallet section is the measure of a front ensemble, you need to pay more attention. The Cavs were playing one of the most complex front ensemble books on the road last summer. They played runs, a ton of intricate 4 mallet stuff, and rhythmic demands that nobody else even attempted. They did all of that with uniform attention to phrasing, musicality and ensemble blend. Devs were impressive, don't get me wrong. Cavs were just better.
I think it's so weird that they won percussion quarterfinals with a 19.6, then semi's and finals they got 19.4, wonder what happened O.o
no, prelims lot!
cavies won best percussion
@brueck4 Ex Phantom* my bad
wha V
@actucker85 I agree with Cavies deserving the title, but Front Ensemble advantage was Devs, no questions asked, they had longer, harder, and cleaner runs, and Cavs almost never had their full mallet ensemble doing the whole runs, and there were lots of easier spots when they weren't featured. Also remember, Devs won drums prelims when AK judged, by three tenths. That's a big spread that suddenly changed after an ex-Cavie judged semis and finals.
@brueck4 I don't really like to talk about where I marched/teach on the net. I'm pretty opinionated, and while I try to keep my comments professional, I wouldn't want someone taking my opinions as that of my organizations. Its all opinion, and I'm all for good conversation this stuff (hey, its what I do for a living), but things can get miscostrued in a form like this.
@JakeAFTaylor Wow. Cavs book was easy? You need to listen again. Devs had a great year, but they weren't nearly as good as Cavs, and that's not even talking about the front ensemble which was advantage Cavs by a long shot.
@brueck4 Yeah, still not buying it. I've marched/taught my share of fronts, and while BD certainly had some stuff that required a lot of chops, they weren't attempting anything near the depth of vocabulary, rhythmic complexity, or musical maturity that the Cavs were. Again, I'm not trashing their front, but the Cavs book required far more ability, and they played it cleaner. They were the better front.
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