So I've been thinking about this a bit today ( because it has bothered me in the past too that I can't find other sumo riders ) and this is what I came up with; Too tall for short bois Too soft for fat bois Too "young" for old bois Too basic for tech bois/dad lads ( adv riders I'm looking at you ) Too expensive for 1st bike bois Too high maintenance for basic bois Too stealable for paranoid bois and finally.. ...too rare for impulse bois. In short, if you can make it past these excuses for not owning one, you're in for one hell of a bike. *But* the bike industry also bears 90% of the blame for not producing a carb-less 400-500cc sumo without ridiculous maintenance intervals. Sure the '23 KTM enduros will be EFI, but you can bet your butt the maintenance schedules will still be garbage and it will still be a pain to jerry rig them into a sumo. I love my SMC-R and will probably only ever own SMC-Rs/701's. ( For what it's worth; I'm old, fat, tech hungry, paranoid, not mechanically minded and bought a 690 SMC-R on an impulse before I even had a bike license. )
.....Speechless! That is the best write up of why things are this way I have ever read.....Deep down, we both love the fact we know this but the fun......WORTH IT!
I'm looking at supermotos atm and they seem to hold value extremely well. Got eyes on a 2008 SMC R 690. Guy wants £4,990. What's your experience with your bikes?
@@drawnbody51 I’d say £4500 is probably about right for a 2008 ( obviously not knowing condition or mileage ), but yeah 690/701s do hold value extremely well as long as you look after them. There is literally no other platform I’d rather ride. 👍
Love 'em! I bought a CCM 644 DS with supermoto wheels to commute which is fun as the journey is via country roads thought recently, thanks to the dry conditions I've been taking it out on the Trans Euro Trail too, nearby Salisbury Plain was great fun! Hopefully will do again if it dries up by the weekend, will look to get some footage.
I like the idea of supermotos but I need to do motorway stuff relatively regularly and I cant afford to have more than one bike, which is why mid size ADV's are the compromise for me.
I stuck supermoto tyres on my BMW 650 single and toured Europe on it. It managed the distance rides ok and was absolutely fantastic on the mountain roads. A bit heavier than your 400 but still light enough to be good fun.
I'm currently riding a ktm 250 exc Sm and it's without a doubt the most fun I've ever had on bike! I was actually chatting to lamb chops at loomies the other week aBout getting a local group ride together for Supermoto fan in the south for bit of fun. Glad to see your feeling better now mate!
Can't speak for England but in Scotland there is nowhere to take them, I love watching jake find all these abandoned road work sites, industrial sites or just taking it off road. The police will crush your bike if you take it anywhere off road here, imagine it's similar in England. Just nowhere fun to take them, might as well stick to the road bikes imo
I own a 94 Yamaha XTZ660, an 81 Yamaha Tr1 XV920, a 99' Yamaha Vmax 1200. My current favorite? My 1982 Kawasaki 440 LTD. Tiiny bike, 2 cylinders, electronic ignition, 6 speed gearbox and automatic turn signals. That was the whole list. It is extremely "flickable" in traffic, it does 90 km/h no prob and is downright frugal on the fuel. I love that thing.
I wish KTM would hurry up with the KTM 490 Duke or even 590 Duke. 700 subs to go mate! :-) Although it is annoying clearing bugs from the front of the bikes and my visor... it is good to see them again, I felt last year and the year before were missing them a bit, hardly any bugs out in the wilds getting splatted. I'd get a "proper" supermoto in a heartbeat if there were road legal bikes like the old Husky SM510R. I was tempted to get a Beta 480RR and convert it, but it is pretty expensive if you do the suspension and brakes properly. SWM actually make rebadged Husky SM510R's... but they don't have a great reputation for reliability or quality compared to the originals, even though they are made in the same factory the old bikes were originally made (and probably by the same workers too).
Currently on a sinnis apache 125 and for a bigger bike would like to swap to a different kind. I think it's because I want the change from a lighter, more maneuverable bike to something different. I view a supermoto as being a bike for pure fun.
Jumped on my Varadero 125 on Sunday to take some parts I sold on eBay to the customer. So much more enjoyable to do that than try to pack and dispatch front forks. Ely to Malden in Essex by Calimoto routing. Absolutely bloody gorgeous including a dirt track to bypass a road closure. Cambridgeshire Suffolk and Essex are wonderful in early summer when the palette of foliage green is almost infinite in its range. ❤
I'd buy a KLX300SM tomorrow if Kawasaki imported them but they don't. I'm considering a WR250F and sticking slicks on it, but it's a real shame that the big manufacturers pulled all their models from the UK, so used bikes are becoming rarer and more expensive.
Loved having a supermoto back in the day used to have a drz400 and a ktm690 smcr. now went for a mt09 in a "Supermoto" Trim. Love it perfect for uk roads (SirDizzer)
I've been riding on and off since the 1980's, ..... been riding continuously for the last 13 years, the last 6 years on a Yamaha WR125R enduro, ..absolutely love this bike and never been keen on sports bikes. Being able to park this bike in all kinds of tricky places to fit it into is part of the reason I like enduro's & Supermoto's, ..you'd never get a sports bike into some of the places that I sometimes park my bike. I used to clock up 60 miles a day commuting up till a year ago. I've never been a speed freak and the 72 mph top speed of this bike is good enough for me, i'm in no rush to die. ;)
the reason I don't have a supermoto is insurance for my derbi cross city 125 was close to £1000 but with my Yamaha xv my insurance is only £300 and I am broke so...
Hey sicy. Yout dont need no biger ike for the Land you are riding in. all the biger bikes are for us stupid europeans living in other countries with "other" "roads". i got a Teneree 700 to enjoy traveling and a "FrireBlade" for the "Autobahn" in germany . Both bikkes would be overkill to ride with you. I would pikk a 250 or a 400 to have proper fun with you. Good helth and "Live long an Prosper" Sicy
Wanted a WR250X but they don't have those where i'm from. Settled for a CRF250M instead. A heavy underpowered turd but serves me well as a beginner rider. I want a more powerful sumo down the road but at 5'2" there aren't any that i can ride confidently
Wow a can of worms there to debate. Why aren’t supermoto’s more popular? For me it’s the lack of choice and cost. New ones are KTM, Husky, and they’re not cheap. Used tend to be older and then you have the problem of time to make repairs, fix problems, and keeping it in the road. They are also quite tall, and I wonder with the average age of bikers increasing, are supermoto’s too fun? There’s one to think about.
Aprilia make a 125 supermoto, no idea if they are sold in the UK but i believe they are, 3,850 for one apparently, would love to hear ur thoughts on it if u can get on one
Think it’s because 1 they appeal to younger riders and 2 the biggest thing is unreliable. I’ve seen so many videos on UA-cam, read online and know ppl that have had to rebuild the engine, fix oil leaks, among other engine problems.
I was contemplating a naked bike or supermoto. The deciding factor in me purchasing my KLXSM was the fun factor. No other bike could tick as many boxes as the supermoto could. The only thing I hate about it is the top end, but I knew that going in and if that's my only gripe.. I can definitely live with that.
I’ve got a reiju mrt 50 sm pro I’ve done lots of work to it. Fatter tyres, changed gearing, bored it out with an ultra light airsal kit for better performance, totally de/restricted voca exhaust, also removed the oil pump and turned it into a pre- mix system, and also stuck a massive carb on it and got rid of the air box. After all that it’s an absolute beast and an absolute blast. I love supermotos as they are road bikes but also very light so you can rag them down country lanes without worry of hitting a little gravel or dirt or whatever as they are so light. Definitely recommend especially if your tall as they have a very high seat position
Supermoto are great bikes no doubt but at the moment I'm on a hyper naked streetfighterish bike whivh is nothing but fun. The thing is miss most about my bike is its clean lines there are no hook points so can't go fishing on the bike, I miss that.
I'm fairly short so whilst I've had a few supermoto/trail bikes I've always struggled with the height a bit which can be off putting. I currently have a CCM flat-tracker (same 400cc engine as your bike) very similar to ride but quite a bit lower.
I get the feeling that with most motorcycle purchases, the choice of style has little to do with the empirical practicality of each bike, and far more to do with the look. Now, no offence intended to Derek at this point, but I've always thought that supermotos look far too plain (somewhere halfway between a dirt bike and a generic road bike), there's nothing about them that makes the design stand out to me. Me, I love my cruisers, big, lumpy, slow, comfortable, laid back cruisers. I've never had any interest in speed when it comes to bikes but I can appreciate that some sports bikes can look amazing, and I can acknowledge the long-distance practicality of a tourer without liking the layout of them, but I still wouldn't buy one of either class, honestly I think I'm more about the chill than about the thrill 😁.
That's very true they don't shout with looks but for me it's about the feel and fun. I will say I had not thought about it but they really are not chill bikes, You can cruise around but they tend to bing the child out in you haha
I love supermotos but it’s simply the fact you can’t practically ride 2 up for me I ride a lot with my partner on the back so I’ve gone for a Tracer 900GT However a 701, 690 or DRZ will definitely be my second bike once I’ve paid the Tracer off
Haha yes this is very true, I have taken my other half on the back of the DR a few times and it was not great! 😁 I have now removed the pillion pegs because I am never going 2 up on it again.
I certainly hope you can get your hands on a GasGas 700, (or the KTM or Husky variant 😉). As a SMC-R owner I can assure you they put the “Super” in SuperMoto 🤪👍. Am good on the highways at 60+ mph for stints of about 30 miles, after that the “sail effect” of the wind blast gets a bit tiring. And yes, the KTM took the place of my DR-Z, so I do have a love, (or is that an obsession 🤔), for SuperMoto bikes ! PS: Glad to hear you are on the mend 👍!
Going from an adrenaline and being tall, the plan was to pass my test and get a husky 701. Somehow I ended up on a Kawasaki z650, which is tiny lol. Have ridden one since and it's a great fun bike but I wouldn't want one as my only bike. As I can't afford two bikes, I'm looking at the MT09 as my next bike.
Loved the video great as always,Am part way through restoring a `93 suzuki dr650 , still unsure which way to go , supermoto or trail ? My daily is a ktm 390 duke which rides like a supermoto , love it to bits!
I'd like a supermoto but there's a couple reasons I don't have one. 1- I'm on a CBT and there are very few 125 supermotos that are affordable and worth having imo. 2- even the bigger 400-700cc supermotos aren't cheap, e.g the drz they start around the £3k mark which for what is at heart a 20 year old bike imo isn't worth having. And the husky 701 and smcr are around £5k-£7k which for that price you can get imo much better bikes e.g an mt07, Duke 790 and definitely way more and probably better examples but thats what came to mind first lol.
The MT07 is a very good bike for people who like supermoto but need a bit more grunt. But nothing I have ridden (and I have ridden a lot of bike) has the same fun factor for it to be able to hoon around the lanes then go off road and back to the lanes. They are best as second bikes it is true.
@@spicy110 I've ridden a couple adrenalines and seriously though about swapping my yzf r125 for one at one point (eventually didn't due to both my mates having issues with their adrenaline's almost simultaneously which put me off) I was definitely jealous of the freedom they had with it being able to tackle 99% of road conditions and if it's dropped no biggie and 100% jealous of the comfort while I was experiencing back issues at the ripe age of 17. Especially as the performance difference was very minor and below 50-60 was almost non existent. Even more so as their bikes combined cost less than 2/3 of mine. So even as a daily rider the adrenalines specifically with +1 tooth on the front sprocket really isn't a bad bike.
I'd love a supermoto. I'm a non driver and new rider and just started riding a Sinnis Terrain. You guys moto vloggers inspired me to finally take to the road at (ahem at 43😳) long story, wife drives, income not fantastic and I work local blah blah never had to. I originally wanted a supermoto but after consideration I reckoned I was probs too old for one now and would look daft as they're usually plastered in crappy 'graffix'. Hence the Terrain. But after getting into bikes and seeing ones like yours I'm getting something like next
I would like a supermoto for my next bike, just cost and space an issue 🙈. Wouldn't have to be a big engine either because of the bikes I have, but they do seem like so much fun! Something you can rip round on. Thanks for the video 🙂
I loved supermotos since I was kid I had a few , the only reason is that I have no space if I had space I would have a supermoto , a sport tourer , and a super sport. Probably a scooter for the city , for now I have a fazer 600 for roads and trips 2009 and a pcx 2015 for the city I want to add a supero sport and a supermoto Bad point of supermoto lack of speed simply!!
I've got a DRZ400SM. Up until recently it was my only bike. I found it great for B roads, but I found over the years it got a bit too much effort when sat on A roads. Revs were too high sat at A road speeds, you tend to get battered by the wind alot, and also fairly annoying having a smallish tank. Other than that, an absolute blast. So much so, that I couldn't get rid! What tyres would you recommend? I've got to replace both for its MOT next week! Not wanting anything naff looking or too over the top like the conti attacks.
I've just watched your trusted reviews video then this one. In the previous one you said you can't fully trust the opinion of someone who bought the product as they will be biased towards it being the best, then in this one you rave about your bike. Was the irony intended? 🧐 I can't decide if you did it on purpose. This isn't meant to be negative, anyone who watched the rebuild series can see how much you love that bike. Keep pushing to 100k
I know what you are trying to say but have also missed somewhat of the point. You know who I am, you know my track history of honesty, my experience test riding nearly 100 bikes and if you ask anyone who asked me if the DRZ is a good bike to get and I say no! I even say at the end of the video "do not get a super moto off the back of this video" now remember I am talking about supermotos as a general type of bike and that reduces your options to just a handful. (Again mentioned in this video.) See this is why I don't want to put that other video out live, it seems people are quick to try and point a finger at me before thinking it through.
Not sure if I count the Hypermotard as supermoto. Then again, the XT660R might also really be a supermoto... But I use it as one 🤣 Reason why not as many people have a Supermoto, most want a two-stroke, but don't like the upkeep the two-strokes need ;)
@@HippoDrones Yeah, they are still very popular (and expensive), but doing a piston replacement every 500km as part of normal service seems absurd to me 😅
@@Meifesto They are no way near that bad for servicing, my 200cc KTM 2T was easier to service than my 390cc Beta 4T. Oil change at 500 miles, not piston change!
@@HippoDrones I know some who have to replace the piston every 500 to 750km, depending on how hard they have been riding. No oil change though, as that is mixed with the gasoline of course ;)
@@Meifesto they still have gearbox oil that needs changing. They must be racing them to need a new piston at 500km... I know plenty of KTM 2t owners still on original piston and rings at well over 100hrs run time... to put that into context, my Beta 390RR has around 60 hours on the engine and 3000 miles, so a 2t enduro bike could easily be at 6000 miles before needing a new piston/rings.
So I've been thinking about this a bit today ( because it has bothered me in the past too that I can't find other sumo riders ) and this is what I came up with;
Too tall for short bois
Too soft for fat bois
Too "young" for old bois
Too basic for tech bois/dad lads ( adv riders I'm looking at you )
Too expensive for 1st bike bois
Too high maintenance for basic bois
Too stealable for paranoid bois
and finally..
...too rare for impulse bois.
In short, if you can make it past these excuses for not owning one, you're in for one hell of a bike. *But* the bike industry also bears 90% of the blame for not producing a carb-less 400-500cc sumo without ridiculous maintenance intervals. Sure the '23 KTM enduros will be EFI, but you can bet your butt the maintenance schedules will still be garbage and it will still be a pain to jerry rig them into a sumo.
I love my SMC-R and will probably only ever own SMC-Rs/701's.
( For what it's worth; I'm old, fat, tech hungry, paranoid, not mechanically minded and bought a 690 SMC-R on an impulse before I even had a bike license. )
.....Speechless! That is the best write up of why things are this way I have ever read.....Deep down, we both love the fact we know this but the fun......WORTH IT!
I'm looking at supermotos atm and they seem to hold value extremely well. Got eyes on a 2008 SMC R 690. Guy wants £4,990. What's your experience with your bikes?
@@drawnbody51 I’d say £4500 is probably about right for a 2008 ( obviously not knowing condition or mileage ), but yeah 690/701s do hold value extremely well as long as you look after them. There is literally no other platform I’d rather ride. 👍
Love 'em! I bought a CCM 644 DS with supermoto wheels to commute which is fun as the journey is via country roads thought recently, thanks to the dry conditions I've been taking it out on the Trans Euro Trail too, nearby Salisbury Plain was great fun! Hopefully will do again if it dries up by the weekend, will look to get some footage.
How do you rate the CCM I've got my eyes on them atm. Between £3k + £5 depending
I like the idea of supermotos but I need to do motorway stuff relatively regularly and I cant afford to have more than one bike, which is why mid size ADV's are the compromise for me.
The Yamaha T7 and Aprilia Tuareg are cracking do it all bikes!
I stuck supermoto tyres on my BMW 650 single and toured Europe on it.
It managed the distance rides ok and was absolutely fantastic on the mountain roads.
A bit heavier than your 400 but still light enough to be good fun.
lmfao at that tattoo. My little 125 husky has 6th, but it don't do much.
I'm currently riding a ktm 250 exc Sm and it's without a doubt the most fun I've ever had on bike! I was actually chatting to lamb chops at loomies the other week aBout getting a local group ride together for Supermoto fan in the south for bit of fun. Glad to see your feeling better now mate!
I have a DRZ400, I'm lucky enough to own several bikes so lucky me.
Can't speak for England but in Scotland there is nowhere to take them, I love watching jake find all these abandoned road work sites, industrial sites or just taking it off road. The police will crush your bike if you take it anywhere off road here, imagine it's similar in England. Just nowhere fun to take them, might as well stick to the road bikes imo
You have no green lanes at all?
I own a 94 Yamaha XTZ660, an 81 Yamaha Tr1 XV920, a 99' Yamaha Vmax 1200. My current favorite? My 1982 Kawasaki 440 LTD. Tiiny bike, 2 cylinders, electronic ignition, 6 speed gearbox and automatic turn signals. That was the whole list. It is extremely "flickable" in traffic, it does 90 km/h no prob and is downright frugal on the fuel. I love that thing.
I wish KTM would hurry up with the KTM 490 Duke or even 590 Duke. 700 subs to go mate! :-)
Although it is annoying clearing bugs from the front of the bikes and my visor... it is good to see them again, I felt last year and the year before were missing them a bit, hardly any bugs out in the wilds getting splatted.
I'd get a "proper" supermoto in a heartbeat if there were road legal bikes like the old Husky SM510R. I was tempted to get a Beta 480RR and convert it, but it is pretty expensive if you do the suspension and brakes properly. SWM actually make rebadged Husky SM510R's... but they don't have a great reputation for reliability or quality compared to the originals, even though they are made in the same factory the old bikes were originally made (and probably by the same workers too).
Currently on a sinnis apache 125 and for a bigger bike would like to swap to a different kind. I think it's because I want the change from a lighter, more maneuverable bike to something different. I view a supermoto as being a bike for pure fun.
Jumped on my Varadero 125 on Sunday to take some parts I sold on eBay to the customer. So much more enjoyable to do that than try to pack and dispatch front forks.
Ely to Malden in Essex by Calimoto routing. Absolutely bloody gorgeous including a dirt track to bypass a road closure. Cambridgeshire Suffolk and Essex are wonderful in early summer when the palette of foliage green is almost infinite in its range. ❤
I'd buy a KLX300SM tomorrow if Kawasaki imported them but they don't. I'm considering a WR250F and sticking slicks on it, but it's a real shame that the big manufacturers pulled all their models from the UK, so used bikes are becoming rarer and more expensive.
Loved having a supermoto back in the day used to have a drz400 and a ktm690 smcr. now went for a mt09 in a "Supermoto" Trim. Love it perfect for uk roads (SirDizzer)
Seat height puts me off... I don't think I feel safe with anything above 800mm.
I've been riding on and off since the 1980's, ..... been riding continuously for the last 13 years, the last 6 years on a Yamaha WR125R enduro, ..absolutely love this bike and never been keen on sports bikes.
Being able to park this bike in all kinds of tricky places to fit it into is part of the reason I like enduro's & Supermoto's, ..you'd never get a sports bike into some of the places that I sometimes park my bike.
I used to clock up 60 miles a day commuting up till a year ago.
I've never been a speed freak and the 72 mph top speed of this bike is good enough for me, i'm in no rush to die. ;)
the reason I don't have a supermoto is insurance for my derbi cross city 125 was close to £1000 but with my Yamaha xv my insurance is only £300 and I am broke so...
Hey sicy. Yout dont need no biger ike for the Land you are riding in. all the biger bikes are for us stupid europeans living in other countries with "other" "roads". i got a Teneree 700 to enjoy traveling and a "FrireBlade" for the "Autobahn" in germany . Both bikkes would be overkill to ride with you. I would pikk a 250 or a 400 to have proper fun with you. Good helth and "Live long an Prosper" Sicy
Wanted a WR250X but they don't have those where i'm from. Settled for a CRF250M instead. A heavy underpowered turd but serves me well as a beginner rider. I want a more powerful sumo down the road but at 5'2" there aren't any that i can ride confidently
Wow a can of worms there to debate. Why aren’t supermoto’s more popular? For me it’s the lack of choice and cost. New ones are KTM, Husky, and they’re not cheap. Used tend to be older and then you have the problem of time to make repairs, fix problems, and keeping it in the road. They are also quite tall, and I wonder with the average age of bikers increasing, are supermoto’s too fun? There’s one to think about.
Aprilia make a 125 supermoto, no idea if they are sold in the UK but i believe they are, 3,850 for one apparently, would love to hear ur thoughts on it if u can get on one
I did review the UM DRS enduro, it's the same bike under a different name off road trim.
@@spicy110 cheers boss, ill check it out
Think it’s because 1 they appeal to younger riders and 2 the biggest thing is unreliable. I’ve seen so many videos on UA-cam, read online and know ppl that have had to rebuild the engine, fix oil leaks, among other engine problems.
Just picked up a brand new 690 SMC R and it's just made for our roads down in Cornwall. The boring bits are travelling to the good roads!
You have gained a sub mate I love supermoto type bikes looking for my first going to go with the 2018 lexmoto adrenaline
I was contemplating a naked bike or supermoto. The deciding factor in me purchasing my KLXSM was the fun factor. No other bike could tick as many boxes as the supermoto could. The only thing I hate about it is the top end, but I knew that going in and if that's my only gripe.. I can definitely live with that.
I’ve got a reiju mrt 50 sm pro I’ve done lots of work to it. Fatter tyres, changed gearing, bored it out with an ultra light airsal kit for better performance, totally de/restricted voca exhaust, also removed the oil pump and turned it into a pre- mix system, and also stuck a massive carb on it and got rid of the air box. After all that it’s an absolute beast and an absolute blast. I love supermotos as they are road bikes but also very light so you can rag them down country lanes without worry of hitting a little gravel or dirt or whatever as they are so light. Definitely recommend especially if your tall as they have a very high seat position
What's the larges distance you can comfortably do with the sumo
I'm dying to get a supermoto, I just don't know what to go for? Any suggestions chaps
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Supermoto are great bikes no doubt but at the moment I'm on a hyper naked streetfighterish bike whivh is nothing but fun. The thing is miss most about my bike is its clean lines there are no hook points so can't go fishing on the bike, I miss that.
I'd like to get one as a 3rd bike bike but I currently can't afford one
I'd get one but I'm only 5' and I need to flat foot because I have knee and ankle trouble.
I'm fairly short so whilst I've had a few supermoto/trail bikes I've always struggled with the height a bit which can be off putting.
I currently have a CCM flat-tracker (same 400cc engine as your bike) very similar to ride but quite a bit lower.
I'm too fat for a supermoto really, do like them though!
I get the feeling that with most motorcycle purchases, the choice of style has little to do with the empirical practicality of each bike, and far more to do with the look. Now, no offence intended to Derek at this point, but I've always thought that supermotos look far too plain (somewhere halfway between a dirt bike and a generic road bike), there's nothing about them that makes the design stand out to me. Me, I love my cruisers, big, lumpy, slow, comfortable, laid back cruisers. I've never had any interest in speed when it comes to bikes but I can appreciate that some sports bikes can look amazing, and I can acknowledge the long-distance practicality of a tourer without liking the layout of them, but I still wouldn't buy one of either class, honestly I think I'm more about the chill than about the thrill 😁.
That's very true they don't shout with looks but for me it's about the feel and fun. I will say I had not thought about it but they really are not chill bikes, You can cruise around but they tend to bing the child out in you haha
400 or so to go mate. Won't be long
I love supermotos but it’s simply the fact you can’t practically ride 2 up for me
I ride a lot with my partner on the back so I’ve gone for a Tracer 900GT
However a 701, 690 or DRZ will definitely be my second bike once I’ve paid the Tracer off
Haha yes this is very true, I have taken my other half on the back of the DR a few times and it was not great! 😁 I have now removed the pillion pegs because I am never going 2 up on it again.
I certainly hope you can get your hands on a GasGas 700, (or the KTM or Husky variant 😉). As a SMC-R owner I can assure you they put the “Super” in SuperMoto 🤪👍. Am good on the highways at 60+ mph for stints of about 30 miles, after that the “sail effect” of the wind blast gets a bit tiring. And yes, the KTM took the place of my DR-Z, so I do have a love, (or is that an obsession 🤔), for SuperMoto bikes !
PS: Glad to hear you are on the mend 👍!
How do you rate the SMC R? I'm looking at a 2008 690 for £4,990
I owned a wr250x bags of fun till some F%%k stole it
Ouch! Sorry to hear that!
My problem with super moto is I’m hobbit size and can’t seem to flat foot any of the supermoto
You don't need to flat foot them, man. Give it a try! :D
I'm too short, I couldn't get my leg over it.
That is a issue for many tis true
Going from an adrenaline and being tall, the plan was to pass my test and get a husky 701.
Somehow I ended up on a Kawasaki z650, which is tiny lol. Have ridden one since and it's a great fun bike but I wouldn't want one as my only bike. As I can't afford two bikes, I'm looking at the MT09 as my next bike.
Yamaha xt660x
I still love my 2015 DRZ400SM but I do need something more highway friendly sometimes. Considering a Yamaha T7 or KTM 790 for my next bike.
Loved the video great as always,Am part way through restoring a `93 suzuki dr650 , still unsure which way to go , supermoto or trail ? My daily is a ktm 390 duke which rides like a supermoto , love it to bits!
You are not helping my issue of wanting a supermoto ... But I very much don't want to get rid of my fazer 6 nor can I keep 2x bikes
I'd like a supermoto but there's a couple reasons I don't have one. 1- I'm on a CBT and there are very few 125 supermotos that are affordable and worth having imo. 2- even the bigger 400-700cc supermotos aren't cheap, e.g the drz they start around the £3k mark which for what is at heart a 20 year old bike imo isn't worth having. And the husky 701 and smcr are around £5k-£7k which for that price you can get imo much better bikes e.g an mt07, Duke 790 and definitely way more and probably better examples but thats what came to mind first lol.
The MT07 is a very good bike for people who like supermoto but need a bit more grunt. But nothing I have ridden (and I have ridden a lot of bike) has the same fun factor for it to be able to hoon around the lanes then go off road and back to the lanes. They are best as second bikes it is true.
@@spicy110 I've ridden a couple adrenalines and seriously though about swapping my yzf r125 for one at one point (eventually didn't due to both my mates having issues with their adrenaline's almost simultaneously which put me off) I was definitely jealous of the freedom they had with it being able to tackle 99% of road conditions and if it's dropped no biggie and 100% jealous of the comfort while I was experiencing back issues at the ripe age of 17. Especially as the performance difference was very minor and below 50-60 was almost non existent. Even more so as their bikes combined cost less than 2/3 of mine. So even as a daily rider the adrenalines specifically with +1 tooth on the front sprocket really isn't a bad bike.
I believe supermoto is the way forward especially with the UK roads lol reason why I brought a husqvarna 701 supermoto as my first big bike
I'd love a supermoto. I'm a non driver and new rider and just started riding a Sinnis Terrain. You guys moto vloggers inspired me to finally take to the road at (ahem at 43😳) long story, wife drives, income not fantastic and I work local blah blah never had to. I originally wanted a supermoto but after consideration I reckoned I was probs too old for one now and would look daft as they're usually plastered in crappy 'graffix'. Hence the Terrain. But after getting into bikes and seeing ones like yours I'm getting something like next
Also I've only been riding around the block and the short commute to work. So looking forward to a sunny ride on roads like this 😊
I would like a supermoto for my next bike, just cost and space an issue 🙈. Wouldn't have to be a big engine either because of the bikes I have, but they do seem like so much fun! Something you can rip round on. Thanks for the video 🙂
I loved supermotos since I was kid I had a few , the only reason is that I have no space if I had space I would have a supermoto , a sport tourer , and a super sport. Probably a scooter for the city , for now I have a fazer 600 for roads and trips 2009 and a pcx 2015 for the city I want to add a supero sport and a supermoto
Bad point of supermoto lack of speed simply!!
Just brought a triumph speed 4 and wondered what you thought of them spicy?
Never ridden one so can't say much, is it in that green they did them in?
@@spicy110 yes they did them In green but mine is in red.
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I agree and would love a wr450f if I was to get a bike
Great ride! Gorgeous spring day.
Now I want to get a licence. Just to get a supermoto
I've got a DRZ400SM. Up until recently it was my only bike. I found it great for B roads, but I found over the years it got a bit too much effort when sat on A roads. Revs were too high sat at A road speeds, you tend to get battered by the wind alot, and also fairly annoying having a smallish tank.
Other than that, an absolute blast. So much so, that I couldn't get rid!
What tyres would you recommend? I've got to replace both for its MOT next week! Not wanting anything naff looking or too over the top like the conti attacks.
Yep that's why I got my xj6, for distance. If you mean for the DR, I am running some Rosso 2's atm and find them pretty good so far.
I've just watched your trusted reviews video then this one. In the previous one you said you can't fully trust the opinion of someone who bought the product as they will be biased towards it being the best, then in this one you rave about your bike. Was the irony intended? 🧐 I can't decide if you did it on purpose. This isn't meant to be negative, anyone who watched the rebuild series can see how much you love that bike.
Keep pushing to 100k
I know what you are trying to say but have also missed somewhat of the point. You know who I am, you know my track history of honesty, my experience test riding nearly 100 bikes and if you ask anyone who asked me if the DRZ is a good bike to get and I say no! I even say at the end of the video "do not get a super moto off the back of this video" now remember I am talking about supermotos as a general type of bike and that reduces your options to just a handful. (Again mentioned in this video.) See this is why I don't want to put that other video out live, it seems people are quick to try and point a finger at me before thinking it through.
Me on a Supermoto would look like a toffee apple going vertically down the road. Not a look a rotund rider should willingly go for.
Haha that's a mental image! 😉
im so blessed to have my adrenaline 2010 shes old but gold
The carbed ones were/are better than the efi 100% 🙂
Not sure if I count the Hypermotard as supermoto.
Then again, the XT660R might also really be a supermoto... But I use it as one 🤣
Reason why not as many people have a Supermoto, most want a two-stroke, but don't like the upkeep the two-strokes need ;)
I had a 2T 300cc KTM supermoto... it was stupid! :D I sold it after a nut and bolt rebuild as it was terrible on the road!: D
@@HippoDrones Yeah, they are still very popular (and expensive), but doing a piston replacement every 500km as part of normal service seems absurd to me 😅
@@Meifesto They are no way near that bad for servicing, my 200cc KTM 2T was easier to service than my 390cc Beta 4T. Oil change at 500 miles, not piston change!
@@HippoDrones I know some who have to replace the piston every 500 to 750km, depending on how hard they have been riding.
No oil change though, as that is mixed with the gasoline of course ;)
@@Meifesto they still have gearbox oil that needs changing. They must be racing them to need a new piston at 500km... I know plenty of KTM 2t owners still on original piston and rings at well over 100hrs run time... to put that into context, my Beta 390RR has around 60 hours on the engine and 3000 miles, so a 2t enduro bike could easily be at 6000 miles before needing a new piston/rings.
Unfortunately, motorcycles are an ego boost for most people. Same reason you don't see too many scooters in north america.
Soooo pleased to see you in joying your time on your drz (I know I have spelling mistakes)
It's so good after all the troubles! 🙂
REQUEIJAO!!!!!!