How a president's death helped kill Washington's "spoils system"

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  • @cashmoney2898
    @cashmoney2898 2 дні тому +4

    I am getting close to 60 years of age. I have live and learn. what I have learned is if you don’t learn from your mistakes. history repeats itself.😎

  • @jenniferc218
    @jenniferc218 9 днів тому +61

    The "spoils" system is exactly where we are now, in 2025. Example - Hegseth.

    • @booyahinc
      @booyahinc 9 днів тому +4

      Wrong - appointments to the cabinet have always been new for a new president. You lost the election. Get over it.

    • @janetl9984
      @janetl9984 9 днів тому +14

      @@booyahinc I agree that the new president nominates cabinet members who are appointed outside the federal civil service act, with the advise and consent of congress. I do wish there would be ethics and qualification requirements for the appointees who are heads of agencies filled by civil service employees bound by ethics and required to qualify for the jobs they fill.

    • @MrAndrewCreech
      @MrAndrewCreech 8 днів тому +9

      @@booyahinc Get over it like you did in 2020? Talking out of both sides of your mouth again?

    • @iloveyoumadhuri
      @iloveyoumadhuri 8 днів тому +8

      Dr. Oz and RFK Jr. too. Apparently, even convicted felons and defamation artists held civilly liable for assault can be elected as well.

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 7 днів тому +3

      ​@booyahinc this is talking about the civil servants that normally stay in place. People who have experience and knowledge to make government work well.

  • @jacobandmore3915
    @jacobandmore3915 9 днів тому +32

    Greenberger wrote an amazing book about Chester Arthur called “The Unexpected President.” It’s amazingly researched and done.

    • @IncogNito-gg6uh
      @IncogNito-gg6uh 5 днів тому

      Another recommendation: "Destiny of the Republic" by Candice Millard.

  • @HorneATL
    @HorneATL 9 днів тому +41

    3:47 Caught a mistake.
    This second still photo is actually Rutherford B. Hayes. Only the one before it was James A. Garfield.

    • @blackmoom
      @blackmoom 9 днів тому +13

      Good catch! Interesting piece, though, American history is fascinating.

    • @JC-life-is-good
      @JC-life-is-good 9 днів тому +10

      @@blackmoom Yes, I 100% agree it was a very interesting story. I wonder how many of these are out there.

  • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
    @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +31

    Protect civil service. This system came into being for a reason.

  • @allthingswavy6420
    @allthingswavy6420 9 днів тому +14

    Whoa! Could history repeat itself?😮😮😮

  • @Quieterpsych
    @Quieterpsych 9 днів тому +33

    Timely, relevant history

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +7

      As a nation, we clearly need improved civics instruction and accurate history. Not clear that the new federal Department of Education will be interested. Voters without a foundation in accurate history are vulnerable to demagogues and worse. Responsible media must fill the gap with direct instruction in history. Also local museums, public library workshops, after school programs, etc. The problem is that this program doesn't reach all generations, so we must find a way to redirect the information for younger audiences. A democracy depends upon an informed citizenry. Good job, Sunday morning. Please do much more, and more often. School House Rock on steroids is needed. ⚖️🗽⚖️

  • @watchalay74
    @watchalay74 9 днів тому +33

    Trump wants all civil servants to answer to him and not the Constitution.

    • @Tblillard
      @Tblillard 9 днів тому +2

      He is implementing the tenants of our constitution.

    • @jsharp3165
      @jsharp3165 8 днів тому +12

      @@Tblillard Tenets. And no he's not.

    • @paisan8766
      @paisan8766 5 днів тому

      @@Tblillardby trying to executive order the 14th Amendment out of existence? The federal judge who stopped it said it was the most egregiously unconstitutional act he’s ever ruled on. He’s a Reagan appointee btw. Cultist

  • @thisguy73
    @thisguy73 9 днів тому +37

    The political cartoons of the past were pretty great

  • @tubiephrank0707
    @tubiephrank0707 9 днів тому +20

    When Chester A Arthur ascended to the Presidency in 1881, this expression was supposedly uttered by a lot of surprised people "My God - Chet Arthur, President Of The United States".
    OH, and BTW -- Before President James Garfield was shot and killed, he'd been hounded by an untold number of office seekers to the point where he exclaimed something to this effect -- "My God. What is it about this place (supposedly his administration) that people would want so much to get into it??"

  • @steveconn
    @steveconn 9 днів тому +74

    Twain would've had a field day with soulless grifter Trump lol

    • @kevinm.8682
      @kevinm.8682 9 днів тому

      And the elevation of Harris, a singularly unqualified individual with the only qualifications being what she was born with.

    • @patriciafitch2432
      @patriciafitch2432 9 днів тому

      Surely you mean Biden....the soulless man who ignored flood victims in North Carolina.
      "Not his people"...but LA, (where Hunter lost his home to the fire.).. receives his
      immediate attention. Provocative CBS, an arm of the DNC...

    • @JohnSmith-4U
      @JohnSmith-4U 9 днів тому +6

      Trump is having a field day with "Trump Deranged Syndrome" woke loons....JA JA JA JA

    • @davidschwartzman2986
      @davidschwartzman2986 9 днів тому

      @@JohnSmith-4U The ONLY "deranged" people are those who support Trump.

    • @booyahinc
      @booyahinc 9 днів тому

      You lost the election. Get over it.

  • @igorschmidlapp6987
    @igorschmidlapp6987 9 днів тому +13

    Too bad that Hal Holbrook is gone. He could've recited that quote as Twain to a session of the Senate before they confirm "appointees"...

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +6

      So disappointing to see such lack of courage from the GOP Senate. I felt particularly bad for Sen Ernst. Btw midterm elections are right around the corner in 2026. Let's celebrate 250 years of DEMOCRACY with 60 Senators and the House majority so we can pass legislation to repair some damage. 💙⚖️🗽⚖️💙

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo1587 6 днів тому +1

    We’re already back to this based on various articles on people being hired. (Ignoring cab picks).

  • @paisan8766
    @paisan8766 5 днів тому +3

    Everything Trump does makes Teapot Dome look like a drop in the bucket

  • @ldonnay
    @ldonnay 8 днів тому +6

    I would like them to talk about how this system of corruption, widely used in third world countries, ruins the lives of so many people around the world.

  • @a.j.trafton7416
    @a.j.trafton7416 8 днів тому +6

    Who's today's Twain? Someone wake them!

  • @theflixcapacitor1372
    @theflixcapacitor1372 7 днів тому +5

    Trump is doing it again! Fired watchdogs and hired 17 people from Fox.😂

  • @sharononeill6477
    @sharononeill6477 2 дні тому +1

    For additional information on Garfield and Chester, read 'Eight Presidents Who Opposed A Central Bank (Federal Reserve)' by Tuskeegee.

  • @markstocker5121
    @markstocker5121 7 днів тому +5

    Trump wants a derp state.

  • @heirloomcottagedesigns9063
    @heirloomcottagedesigns9063 9 днів тому +25

    And all these years later, we are back to square one!!!😡

    • @patriciafitch2432
      @patriciafitch2432 9 днів тому +1

      Really???

    • @SynthwaveDuck
      @SynthwaveDuck 9 днів тому

      Yes, the entrenched bureaucracies are again a problem. Spoils has its merits (you know you want to clip that, you hacks)

    • @essence56able
      @essence56able 9 днів тому +3

      Exactly.

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +5

      Only if we put up with it. We don't need to live this way. Support local journalism, support community based legal groups that can help workers who get discharged. Many more legal challenges to come. SO many executive orders, don't be overwhelmed by the firehose. For instance, the inspector general firings were supposed to wait until 30 days notice was given to Congress. Congress is a co equal branch of government. We do not elect kings in the USA. Challenge it.
      Thank you to the states that challenged the unconstitutional birth right citizenship order. It received its first favorable ruling and is now making its way through the courts. Resist. Challenge everything. Do not comply in advance.
      Reread every bit of history you can find. Between the 1930s and the Gilded Age, we are walking through a lot of potholes!! Stay aware, stay awesome. BTW midterm elections are right around the corner in 2026. Let's celebrate 250 years of DEMOCRACY with 60 Senators and the House majority! 💙⚖️💙

  • @CRiver396
    @CRiver396 4 дні тому +1

    It wasn't an issue until now?

  • @RemnantCult
    @RemnantCult 9 днів тому +13

    I'm no historian, but I'd wager we're currently in what will be called the Second Gilded Age. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes quite a bit as they say.

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +6

      Only if we put up with it. For motivation, let's reread all those books from the progressive era in the 1880s. Visit a settlement house. If your town doesn't have one, create one. Read "How the Other Half Lives". Read about the Muckrakers. Yeah, Theodore Roosevelt was an imperialist with a big stick, but he was primarily a Republican, a progressive, a supporter of land conservation and a trust buster. Civics instruction, accurate history and protection against book bannings are under attack. Let's defend them. Pay attention to history. ⚖️🗽⚖️

    • @davidroberts7282
      @davidroberts7282 2 дні тому

      Trust buster? That's debatable. He believed in "good trusts" and "bad trusts" if huge, multi-national corporations and companies were helpful and beneficial to the overall American economy, they'd be left alone. Negative, counterproductive ones that stifled competition? They would be broken up. He wasnt as 100% committed to trust-busting as some historians like to suggest he was. I would argue his perspective was more nuanced.
      President Roosevelt's views on segregation and Afro-Americans were both encouraging and disappointing as while he was the first POTUS to invite distinguished African-Americans professors, lecturers, and professionals like Booker T. Washington and tried to pass some anti-lynching legislation in the Southern states, his own views towards minorities and like many other late 19th/early 20th century Progressives, his actions and performances were disappointment, IMHO. He was better at promoting race relations then other "Progressives" like Woodrow Wilson, but actually had the power and influence to do more arguably but chose not to due to fear of inflaming and exascerbating political tensions in the Deep South. Since the 1890's, most Americans had accepted that state-sanctioned, "Jim Crow" segregation laws was the price for peacefully allowing and integrating the former Confederacy back into the Union, after a disastrous, deadly Civil War and uneven, corrupt Reconstruction process many national politicians didn't want a replay of Reconstruction or more political and civil unrest in the Deep South, so they left it alone for the most part until the late 1940's.
      I would argue Jane Addams did more for promoting civil rights and welcoming newly-arrived immigrants by co-founding the NAACP along with W.E.B. Dubois in 1909 than other so-called "progressives".
      The way in which Roosevelt obtained the Panama Canal Zone from Columbia was extra-legal to be modest and highly illegal at best. When Columbian government refused to negotiate with Roosevelt's offers at buying or leasing the Canal Zone, and pointing to a law that prohibited any foreign country buying up territory of a sovereign nation, Teddy Roosevelt instead supported and supplied weapons, logistical aid and American warships to support Panamanian rebels' attempts to break away from Columbia and form their own nation. Like several other Presidents before him, and as he explained to German Kaiser Wilhelm II in a private meeting at the White House, in case of any future war with the U.K., one of the U.S. first targets to invade and occupy once hostilities began was Canada (by then its own nation, but the UK controlled its foreign affairs until the 1930's). Canada was an tempting, hard-to-resist alluring target for American expansionists in the late 19th century.

  • @zachariekinslow1670
    @zachariekinslow1670 8 днів тому +2

    I wish CBS Sunday Morning would do a segment on TN Governor Frank G. Clement

  • @timjoebob1
    @timjoebob1 9 днів тому +12

    It sounds like it’s cyclical.

  • @loubell5196
    @loubell5196 9 днів тому +10

    Suppose you were an idiot! Now imagine you were a member of congress! I just repeated myself

  • @adelaferreira4575
    @adelaferreira4575 9 днів тому +15

    Which is exactly what he wants,he wants loyal incompetent people who have no idea what they are doing,since government is so complicated ,nothing will work like it should that’s for sure,chaos lol over the place

  • @blainemogil2254
    @blainemogil2254 3 дні тому +1

    DJT, fool us once, silly us. Fool us twice...you now serve over the first genuine idiocracy on Earth. God help us and the planet.

  • @simonecaldeira8603
    @simonecaldeira8603 9 днів тому +1

    What are you insinuating?

  • @jpm5205
    @jpm5205 9 днів тому +1

    "...regardless of their political views..."🤣 that's rich!

  • @jasongoldtrap1114
    @jasongoldtrap1114 8 днів тому +1

    Chester A. Arthur fall down.

  • @jeromefitzroy
    @jeromefitzroy 9 днів тому +9

    Regressing a century.

  • @rickylemaire2093
    @rickylemaire2093 9 днів тому +8

    Maybe we need to look at civil service rules and laws every so often so we don't get morons in there who can't do anything

  • @ExcitedSnowMountain-jt4gq
    @ExcitedSnowMountain-jt4gq 9 днів тому +24

    Trump is a punk😅

    • @JohnSmith-4U
      @JohnSmith-4U 9 днів тому +5

      Cry more......JA JA JA JA......

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +6

      BTW midterm elections are right around the house in 2026. Start organizing now, start volunteering now. 60 Senators and the House majority so we can pass legislation to repair some damage. Not easy, but we like hard work. Stay aware stay awesome! ⚖️💙⚖️

  • @bamargerin
    @bamargerin 9 днів тому +5

    Chester A. Arthur = JD Vance ?

  • @davidthompson6636
    @davidthompson6636 9 днів тому +5

    Wow!!! Planting seeds?

    • @DRJ-ytp
      @DRJ-ytp 4 дні тому +1

      No. Reporting factual historical facts

  • @LeonardGalit
    @LeonardGalit 9 днів тому +4

    The teachings of the Baha'i Faith include elimination of the extremes of wealth and poverty; another teaching calls for justice under all circumstances. The ultimate Judge is God, and God is Love.

  • @laurametcalf5351
    @laurametcalf5351 9 днів тому +14

    Well the wealth and corruption in government has never changed!!

    • @igorschmidlapp6987
      @igorschmidlapp6987 9 днів тому +3

      Just the names...

    • @brucekuehn4031
      @brucekuehn4031 8 днів тому

      The power that has accumulated in Washington, DC is unprecedented! The larger the federal government gets, the more we citizens lose!

  • @gmwilliams4314
    @gmwilliams4314 7 днів тому

    Those are tax payers police vehicles. Who the hell is the current HPD Chief of Police? Why is he condoning his officers clearly retaliating against concerned civilians?

  • @travisthornton1792
    @travisthornton1792 9 днів тому +3

    Makes ya think

  • @ragantate3995
    @ragantate3995 8 днів тому +1

    There’s been absolutely no advancement of maturity or sobriety to reality in this country since reconstruction.

  • @nyczyar
    @nyczyar 9 днів тому +10

    What are you implying CBS?

    • @steveconn
      @steveconn 9 днів тому +4

      That aim has gotten worse lol

    • @CutieInTheCabCar
      @CutieInTheCabCar 9 днів тому +4

      What are you implying?

    • @CutieInTheCabCar
      @CutieInTheCabCar 9 днів тому +3

      We know where your mind is at

    • @disgruntledpelican5660
      @disgruntledpelican5660 9 днів тому +12

      @@steveconnWhew, I wasn’t gonna go there myself but you said it! But actually- if you study the Gilded Age and look at the last 10 years of Trump, the parallels aren’t far fetched by any means.

    • @jojopuppyfish
      @jojopuppyfish 9 днів тому

      @@steveconn No. That Trump wants to get rid of everyone and make everyone loyal to him. The system hasn't gotten worse. The people voting have been brainwashed in the same way that Jim Jones did it back in the 1970s

  • @susanjohnson6763
    @susanjohnson6763 9 днів тому +2

    I am so glad I found you.!!! Loved this podcast!

    • @SynthwaveDuck
      @SynthwaveDuck 9 днів тому +1

      The viewership is so low they've resorted to botting.

  • @andrewyoung2796
    @andrewyoung2796 8 днів тому

    Is gary Trudeau still alive?

  • @bhagmeister
    @bhagmeister 9 днів тому +1

    Musn’t tease

  • @NunYa953
    @NunYa953 9 днів тому +2

    Next week they should make a video detailing the long list of presidents who pardoned their entire family in the last moments of their presidency.

    • @ldonnay
      @ldonnay 8 днів тому +3

      Well, there has never been a potential president who was really vindictive and bent on revenge like we have now.

    • @NunYa953
      @NunYa953 8 днів тому +1

      @ldonnay
      What happened to "No one is above the law?". Go eat your Kale salad and read a history book.

  • @mustolourien5823
    @mustolourien5823 8 днів тому +1

    Is this a suggestion or what?

  • @Rainydog632
    @Rainydog632 8 днів тому

    Good bye

  • @williamtell3203
    @williamtell3203 9 днів тому +1

    My short stint in civil service exposed me to a system that employs otherwise unemployable
    people. Levels of incompetence that would never be tolerated in a private corporate business. It's mostly a taxpayer funded employment program for those who are unqualified to do much of anything.

  • @kennethofodile5389
    @kennethofodile5389 9 днів тому

    🐽

  • @rdunn6371
    @rdunn6371 6 днів тому

    Need to reduce Power of Federal Govt bureaucrats !

  • @Protect_all_ljf3forms
    @Protect_all_ljf3forms 9 днів тому

    Thinly veiled

  • @rdunn6371
    @rdunn6371 6 днів тому

    One of the reasons we Voted for Trump !

  • @rdunn6371
    @rdunn6371 6 днів тому

    Go TRUMP GO !

  • @rdunn6371
    @rdunn6371 6 днів тому

    I agree with Trump !

  • @Chase0370
    @Chase0370 9 днів тому +4

    Good grief you guys are biased! Trump good for country, Stevie wonder can see that!

    • @DouglassMiles-f6x
      @DouglassMiles-f6x 9 днів тому +6

      This is not Bias . In fact, Stevie Wonder expressed his dismay for Trump, and his political policies. Do your research correctly.

    • @Chase0370
      @Chase0370 9 днів тому +2

      @ it was a joke because he is blind , genius

  • @DgurlSunshine
    @DgurlSunshine 9 днів тому +8

    Enter DEI

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 9 днів тому +3

      Ouch. More information needed on civil services. In most cases, these jobs require completing an exam before you can be hired, proof that you are qualified. People used to talk about civil service exams all the time. Exams helped to cut through the graft. Please pay attention to history.

    • @davidroberts7282
      @davidroberts7282 2 дні тому

      That's all well and good, but that's still a bit of a over-simplification. You also have to consider competence/IQ levels, college and educational backgrounds via the sorts of state and federal entry-level or mid-tier government jobs available, then their are socio-political, and economic realities one has to take into consideration. Family connections mean a lot when you have to judge between possible candidates where both passed the exams but one particular candidate is more skilled, intelligent, capable then others, but since Candidate A went to Harvard or Yale owing more to family influence, that looks more impressive on a resume then someone with a higher IQ who probably more competent and do a better job overall but attended the University of South Alabama and doesn't have the same political "connections" or backgrounds.
      Those factors exist regardless or in spite of types like Trump and mostly don't change or get seriously altered no matter if a Republican or Democrat is in the White House.

    • @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288
      @girlfromthebronxbywayofelb7288 2 дні тому

      Civil service protections have been in place since Andrew Jackson. A president was actually assassinated over graft in federal jobs. Please pay attention to history.