@@cormalan9894 lmao so accurate, i fucking hate the second one. One of the little things I liked about the first one was the fact that they didnt really care to much about Po's parentage. His dads a duck. Simple as that. But of course the second one has to revolve around the fact that he was ADOPTED. Just seemed a lot more cookie cutter than the OG.
@@lepkember6913 no it really can't. These are three extremely weak minded people. They've all been exposed by this brain fart of a podcast. They should stick to their heavily edited reviews on their respective channels.
@@ethanbradley2089 they all had basically the same opinion abt the movie throughout the joker podcast I have no clue why people were getting so pissed. Its been a while but I'm pretty sure they finished off by saying "this is different for a comic book movie and decently good", like they weren't overly negative.
I actually agree with Adam. Puss only exists for comic relief and it doesn't make sense why Shrek would want to befriend a person who was hired to kill him.
Shrek 2 was also in in competition for Palme D’Or and competed against Old Boy ,Tropical Malady, The Ladykillers Ghost in the shell 2 and Wong Kar-wai’s 2046. All of those films lost to Fahrenheit 9/11 witch in my opinion is the worst Palme D’Or winner in history. not becuse it’s a bad movie or that I disagree with the , but becuse it was so obviously chosen because politics and the drama , (despite what Quentin Tarantino the jury president that year said) and is the least timeless of all the films eligible that year. Old boy should have obviously won the Palme D’Or, with Shrek 2 winning the Grand Prix
it helps fionna especially in 1 and 4 is a real fleshed out character that we like....shes quirky and we find out not too early but early enough why and its a surprise and cool...otherwise it would be odd
TIMESTAMPS (SPOILERS): 0:00 - Intro 1:39 - Shrek (2001) 23:27 - Shrek 2 (2004) 38:48 - Shrek the Third (2007) 1:02:55 - Shrek Forever After (2010) 1:21:48 - Puss in Boots (2011) 1:31:13 - BONUS FILMS: Shrek The Musical & Shrek 4-D 1:35:47 - Q&A (Question Timestamps below) 1:36:00 - Question 1: What's your favorite Shrek meme? 1:37:22 - Question 2: What is your favorite and least favorite DreamWorks movie? 1:42:43 - Question 3: What are your opinions for the Amazon Prime show Invincible? 1:46:27 - Question 4: What do you guys think about the americanization of foreign films? 1:51:17 - Question 5: What do you guys opinions on the Resident Evil video games? 1:55:47 - Question 6: How do you guys feel about the FNAF movie getting made? 2:02:06 - Film Recommendation
Shrek the Third (Meg Griffin): “You guys all think you’re so much better than me!” Shrek (Peter Griffin): “Oh Shrek the Third, that is the least fanciest thing I have ever heard.” Shrek 2 (Lois Griffin) Shrek Forever After (Chris Griffin)
he makes jokes constantly but his delivery makes him sound almost serious a lot of the time and adum kinda feeds into that, the fake laugh seems almost to spawn from the fact nobody knew he was kidding cause it seems to happen more often lately, or i just notice it more often. i also just listened to this while super high so maybe he makes more sense from that angle.
Its still a little frustrating with the charming pretending to be shrek thing and shrek giving up instead of just telling her immediatly (even though it is justified) but yeah
Don't forget the original Shrek was trying to at least somewhat be a romantic-comedy. At the time the 'couple misunderstanding each other' wasn't just a cliché it was a trope. Though granted that being a big trope of the genre may be a big reason why it eventually died out. I understand that today that is seen as one of the more annoying elements of the movie, but from a 2001 perspective it made perfect sense to put it in.
Adam, there’s two important things I need you to know about Shrek the musical: 1. The guy who played Shrek (Brian D’Arcy James) Was Hannah Baker’s dad in 13 reasons why, and he turned down The lead role in a Pulitzer Prize winning musical to play Shrek. 2. Shrek the musical is one of the most popular shows in America for high school and community theater. You’d be hard-pressed to find an amateur drama group in the US that hasn’t done Shrek.
Nah. There would be a feeling of obligation that they’d have to watch the Spongebob Movie 2 and 3 lurking. I don’t think there’s enough substance worth talking about with Spongebob 2 and 3.
@@N1ght_walk I mean there's enough to talk about for at least 30 to 40 minutes with just the first one, if they really wanted to do it, the music and the singing parts of the film are enough to just cover about 10+ minutes.
That along with the Spy Kids series, Sharkboy and Lavagirl and The Cat in the Hat (2003)! I so want Adam to do an Adum & Pals commentary track for The Cat in the Hat (2003)!
Shrek in Spanish has got to be the most hilarious experience for me. A lot of the voice actors had to improvise their lines and it made it 10X funnier and genuine
@@AlfredSoul Shrek is an iconic movie series in LATAM due to the voice actors making subtle changes here in there or changin entire dialogues between characters to resonate more with the hispanic viewer. Even Antonio Banderas was funnier in the Spanish version than the English version Most English phrases don't translate well in Spanish so a lot of time the voice actors have to find similar words or just improvise all together which makes the characters seem more genuine or funnier For example, we don't know the story of the Muffin Man, it's not something we tell the kids here, however, we know the story of Pinpon. That entire scene was changed completely to fit that story and when compared the Spanish voice actors put a lot of effort on the scene. The same thing happens with The Simpsons, although it is supposed to be a critique about the USA as a society, when done in Spanish the improvising is up to 100% which makes it hilarious and actually better than the English version
@@TheCrispyKiki Ah, I see, thanks for explaining all this. I'm German, and since pretty much all of the popular "western" fairy tales originated here, the dub I've been exposed to for all of my childhood is practically identical to the English one with only minor changes in the case of, for example, jokes otherwise getting lost in translation. As I don't speak spanish, I'm not familiar with the usual quality of Spanish voice acting, but in Germany, it is a pretty big independent industry with usually not just famous people or big actors voicing movie characters, so the quality is generally way better than the American originals, because of which I also prefer the German dub, in the case of Shrek and actually the Simpsons aswell, lol.
I believe I read it’s Spanish dub of The Emperor's New Groove. The Simpsons ,and especially Top cat were like that too I get the impression that Spanish dubbing companies who are assigned to dub more wacky cartoons they must let the voice actors do what ever. (Also I this must be is why Top Cat is the most popular and beloved Hanna Barbra franchise in Spanish speaking territories, and is more popular then Scooby doo, or The Flintsones Were in America Top Cat is largely forgotten )
@@notchuckproductions5029 There's an interview with the Spanish dub actor that does Homer in The Simpsons and the way he explains it is kind of what I envision. They just do whatever they feel is natural and if it's funny it sticks
Apparently Mike Myers based the Shrek voice off his Scottish parents, which probably partly explains why it's a lot more nuanced than his Fat Bastard voice
Oh, interesting. Then that's also the influence for his performance as a supporting character he played in one of his earlier movies (So I Married an Axe Murderer)
It’s pretty wild that dream works started with bible recreations, and went to shrek lmao. You guys should review the prince of Egypt and the Ten Commandments
Sardonicast fan from Japan, “Cure” is actually a masterpiece and one of my favorite films of all time. This is the happiest thing that ever happened in my life.
@@HOTD108_ he was racist towards Asians during WW2 and made some pretty cringe propaganda pieces (drawing Japanese people as typical asian caricatures etc), but later changed his views after the war. Horton Hears A Who was literally written as an allegory for America's occupation of Japan.
Shrek 1 ends with a dance party at Shrek and Fiona's wedding - i.e. a situation where having a dance party is appropriate and completely makes sense in context. Then, after seeing how it was a nice way to end a film, Dreamworks decided every animated film had to end like that whether it made sense or not.
Shrek the Turd shouldnt have killed Harold off, they wasted any potential growth to his and Shreks relationship moving on with the franchise and in the movie. They could had harold as a supportive Figure while shrek still doesnt know how to be a father/king
Shrek The Third feels... Dark to me. Like, Shrek 4 has the darker plot overall, but Shrek 3 just gives me a depressive feeling, it's weird as hell... For most of the movie the sky is gray and/or cloudy, and it has things like Fiona's dad dying and Shrek having to deal with being a father... It all gives me a very sour mood. Maybe it's because all of the jokes suck and the movie is boring and takes itself seriously, idk.
You're definitely on to something the how most of the film has grey cloudy skies. That's always confused me, like what was the creative reasoning for that? No idea.
One other thing I noticed is that a lot of scenes have an orange-ish tint to them, like if every scene besides night takes place in a sunrise. The skies are actually blue, but the lighting and slight desaturation of the colors make it look gray and dull. They basically decided to remove the colors from everything and gave it an orange-ish brown color grading, which is one of the stupidest decisions ever.
the best comedy is at the school but they barley are there long and maybe get a few jokes out of a student before it moves to another scene/student character..that setting should of been like 1/3rd of the film[s run time and have them have to like find arthur or save him from bullies or catch him on the run through classes and activities and awkward chase sequenced montages like in scooby doo..the way it plays out is so short and then we get awkward walking around the woods humor which is so boring and flat and quiet...its cringe...
@@balabanasireti The word "transgender" is actually considered problematic now, because they're not transitioning their gender, because they always were that gender, and society just assigned them the incorrect one at birth.
Spamming their UA-cam videos with ads was how Jurassic World was able to pay for the genetic engineering to make Indominous Rex smile. Our Sardonibois have big plans.
I never even made the connection until now that Mike Meyers and Chris Farley were castmates on SNL. I also joked to myself while watching this that Puss In Boots is like Solo: A Star Wars Story, and then I remembered that while watching the film a few months ago I made the exact same connection.
I swear someone at Netflix must be a sardonicast fan because Chinatown just got added and this is like the third time the recommendation has shown up a couple weeks later...
Is it even popular outside the US? I feel I'd have been the right age to see it as a kid, or maybe a bit too young. Same question for all the 2D Dreamworks movies really.
IMO Shrek 2 is one of the best sequels of all time. The humor, writing, action, everything are significantly better than the first. If Shrek 1 is a 7 for me, I give Shrek 2 a 9/10. I'm very disappointed our Sardonibois didn't see the genius in it.
@@balabanasireti I love both, but I can't give them more than a 7 and a 9 respectfully. Going further than that seems a bit unjustified to me, just if you feel differently that's valid. Contrary to popular Mauler propaganda, art IS subjective.
I love the first Shrek because there was something about it that was always small and personal to me. Maybe it is because Shrek 2 had a budget that was $90 million larger then its predecessor but that movie to me doesn't feel small or personal at all.
Shrek 1 still holds up. It's nostalgic and it's a product of it's time, the music is good (the use of some pop songs in the movie can sometimes be jarring to hear, but it goes well with the weirdness of the movie), the voice acting is great, especially Eddie Murphy and John Lithgow, it's imaginative and creative and clever. You gotta give it credit. The animation hasn't aged well and can sometimes be a bit uncanny. A strong 7 out of 10.
@@balabanasireti I know it’s going to boil down to personal preferences. The parodying of fairytales in Shrek 1 is still present in Shrek 2, but instead of telling a traditional fairytale story, the producers decided to take the series in a weird direction by telling a story of Shrek meeting Fiona’s parents. Thus making for funny gags between Shrek, Fiona, Fiona’s parents, and the people who live in the kingdom of Far, Far Away, where almost the entirety of the story takes place. Gone are the environmentally different places that the first film took you, and gone is the cleverness. More jokes are told and more characters are introduced. The music isn’t as memorable as the first film (pop songs are still used throughout the movie, but aren’t as jarring to hear this time around. I guess this has to do with the more traditional “meeting her parents” story being told and the audience becoming acclimated with pop songs being in Shrek movies), but the animation is better. There are some elements from Shrek 1 that I liked that are sprinkled into Shrek 2. 6 out of 10.
The use of pop songs were done intentionally to convey the tone and ideas and lessons the movie was trying to tell the audience. I think the choices were well made.
It's a little disappointing that they didn't review any of the shorts or Shrek 4D in more detail, so i'm gonna leave my thoughts on some of them in this comment, for anyone who cares: Shrek 4D: It's worth a watch just to see a more fleshed-out & satisfying resolution to Farquaad's death. I always thought his demise came really abruptly in the original Shrek. The stone dragon flight sequence is actually pretty fucking cool to experience in the Universal theater itself. 7/10. Shrek the Halls: Boring pile of dogshit. Nothing meaningful or memorable happens for almost the entire short. Everything goes how you'd expect it to, and it ends up just being a worse version of Shrek Forever After, just without any alternate dimension stuff. Shrek realizes his family and friends are what Christmas is all about instead of the idealized version he made up in his head, which is a dull message delivered with no wit or irony. I was wondering why it sucked so badly until i saw it was made the same year as Shrek 3, so it had the same talentless hack writers. I kinda liked the Hallmark store cashier at the beginning, for the 20 seconds she was in it. 2/10. Thriller Night: Just a parody of the Thriller music video. Not really a short film, just a music video with Shrek in it. Not very inspired, but brings back a lot of unexpected characters as zombies, including the Pied Piper (which actually makes a ton of sense in that context), so I guess it had a couple neat moments. Inoffensive at best. 5/10. Scared Shrekless: This one REALLY surprised me. It's more of a series of tiny short films inside a bigger short film framing device. Shrek's "The Exorcist" campfire story was the worst (still not awful; has a funny ending with Jiminy Cricket), Puss & Donkey's "Psycho" story was the best (lots of enjoyable absurdity that just keeps building & building), and Gingy's "Bride of Frankenstein" story was also pretty solid (Shrek the Halls has a quick dumb gag with Gingy's girlfriend as well, but this short does way more interesting stuff with her). The short doesn't have Eddie Murphy in it, unfortunately, but they got an EXCELLENT impersonator for him, and the writing for the character is just as witty and believable as Donkey is in any of the movies. 8/10. Shrek's Yule Log: Whoever had the idea for this "short film" was on crack. It's literally just 30 (THIRTY) straight minutes of an animated fireplace, OCCASIONALLY interrupted by a character walking in front of the fire doing something mundane, like eating cookies or getting burned and running off-screen, quickly returning to a normal fireplace shot for another 6-7 minutes straight, until it just ends with the fire going out. One of the most inexplicable & bizarre Special Feature inclusions I've ever seen attached to any movie. Ever. 0/10. (or 10/10 depending on how you look at things like this) Far, Far Away Idol: This is a more canon continuation of Shrek 2 than Shrek the Third is. I'm not kidding. It's basically just a karaoke compilation with some light interactivity. I will say that it's lazy bullshit that they didn't animate an ending for every character, because they offer you like 15 possible winners to choose from at the end, but Simon Fucking Cowell just rejects your choice for like 95% of the options and picks himself. I think only Donkey, Shrek, and Puss have unique endings, and are the only characters "allowed" to win. The short doesn't hold up that well anymore due to Simon Cowell's irrelevence in modern pop culture. Still better than Shrek 3. 4/10. Thank you for coming to my Shrek talk. Edit: I tried watching an episode of Puss in Boots (TV series), but I was so put off by the shitty Flash animation style that looks worse than most UA-camr animation that I stopped watching 2 minutes in. Not going to grade it. Someone let me know if there's anything worthwhile in it.
Puss in boots in honesly pretty good, story wise that is not really animation wise but yeah its kind of 50/50 between Goofy jokes and an overarching story. In general I find these dreamworks shows (penguins of Madagascar, king Julien, turbo fast) to be pretty damn underrated but that might just be nostalgia
Adam will hate me for this, but the scene with Shrek on stage with the babies is my favourite scene of the movie. It was so bizarre which is what made it ironically funny.
Timestamps: Intro: 0:00 Shrek: 1:42 Shrek 2: 23:25 Shrek 3: 38:47 Shrek 4: 1:02:55 Puss In Boots: 1:21:47 Shrek The Musical: 1:31:13 Shrek 4d: 1:33:50 Q & A timestamps: Q & A Intro: 1:35:06 Favorite Shrek Meme?: 1:35:59 What is your favorite and least favorite Dreamworks movie?: 1:37:21 What are your opinions on Invincible?: 1:42:43 What are your thoughts on Another Round getting an American remake?: 1:46:27 What are your opinions on Resident Evil?: 1:51:17 How do you feel about the upcoming FNAF movie?: 1:55:47 Outro: 2:01:54 Alex's recommendation is Cure (1997)
I hope they never bring him back. I literally could not *stand* him, he just said “like” about 5 times per sentence, it was super irritating. And I love his content too
I love Kiyoshi Kurosawa, I'm excited that you are talking about him. Maybe after Cure talk about Pulse, or some of his non horror films like Tokyo Sonata.
The first Shrek is iconic and I adore it but the 2nd is my absolute favourite. For as far as I'm concerned, Shrek only has two films. Then Puss has his own spin-off films.
Me hearing these three explain that the Shrek movies are better than they deserve to be and that Puss is a flat character right before Puss in Boots: The Last Wish blew it out of the fucking park 💀
I never knew there was an American remake of Another Round in the works. When Alex brought that up I genuinely started shouting “No!” out loud over and over. Please fucking stop remaking things Hollywood
But guys, what about the scene in puss in boots where it reveals that humpty planned everything from the beginning and he was everywhere that puss was even when he was knocked out at the end he was throwing crumbs around puss so that the crows would circle around him and then the crows carry humpty off as he makes an oopsie face.
Shrek was nominated for best adapted screenplay, alongside fellowship of the ring, best picture winner a beautiful mind, and two movies you’ve never heard of (ghost world and in the bedroom)
Imma be honest here, Shrek 2 is the sequel that improves itself over it’s predecessor and is up there with films like The Dark Knight, Aliens, Terminator 2, The Empire Strikes Back, The Godfather Part II and Paddington 2 as being one of the best movie sequels of all time! I honestly like it better than the first one and that’s definitely an unpopular opinion of mine.
Unpopular opinion, Shrek 4 >/= Shrek 1. The main problem with Shrek 4 is that Shreks motivations at the start are so stupid and rushed, he seems pretty out of character
I love whenever Ralph says 'It's a solid film' after Adam spending 5 minutes shitting on a movie
Adam is just a negative Nancy
You sir are forgetting that shit can also be solid
kinda makes you wonder why Adam and IHE even hang out with him when it's clear his tastes are kinda shit
@@ianschmitt4991 LMAO
@@thatonea-holeyeah, gay.
"Police brutality, that's awesome, that's so fuckin' funny."
-Ralph "Pino" Sepe Jr.
Can't wait for him to get super rich and famous so that I can tweet this out and get him cancelled
@@Lovicide thatsthejoke.jpg
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Time stamp?????
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you’ve done the Madagascar trilogy and the Shrek series, now we need the Kung fu panda trilogy
Alex would constantly praise the second one as a masterpiece while adum and Ralph say he’s wrong but respectfully. Can’t wait.
@@cormalan9894 lmao so accurate, i fucking hate the second one. One of the little things I liked about the first one was the fact that they didnt really care to much about Po's parentage. His dads a duck. Simple as that. But of course the second one has to revolve around the fact that he was ADOPTED. Just seemed a lot more cookie cutter than the OG.
Not an hour has passed but you are already spitting gold, u better go to the top
Don’t forget How to Train your Dragon
Get How to Train your Dragon in there and boom , there's all the Dreamworks franchises
The producers of Shrek the Third were just like "You know what kids really love? The anxieties of impending fatherhood"
Ralph going from calling Shrek dumb in the paddington episode to praising it in this one is the greatest character arc of all time.
Best redemption in cinema history
Could just be about him being spineless. Remember Joker?
@@ethanbradley2089 couldnt it be him simply changing his opinion?
@@lepkember6913 no it really can't. These are three extremely weak minded people. They've all been exposed by this brain fart of a podcast. They should stick to their heavily edited reviews on their respective channels.
@@ethanbradley2089 they all had basically the same opinion abt the movie throughout the joker podcast I have no clue why people were getting so pissed. Its been a while but I'm pretty sure they finished off by saying "this is different for a comic book movie and decently good", like they weren't overly negative.
I love that moment where both Alex and Ralph were trying their best to convince Adam to like Puss XD
*their
@@mr.garbage5825 👀
Weird that the furry of the group needed convincing on that point lol
Thank you.
I actually agree with Adam. Puss only exists for comic relief and it doesn't make sense why Shrek would want to befriend a person who was hired to kill him.
Shrek competed for the Palme D’Or against Mulholland Drive and The Piano Teacher
Shrek 2 was also in in competition for Palme D’Or and competed against Old Boy ,Tropical Malady, The Ladykillers Ghost in the shell 2 and Wong Kar-wai’s 2046. All of those films lost to Fahrenheit 9/11 witch in my opinion is the worst Palme D’Or winner in history. not becuse it’s a bad movie or that I disagree with the , but becuse it was so obviously chosen because politics and the drama , (despite what Quentin Tarantino the jury president that year said) and is the least timeless of all the films eligible that year.
Old boy should have obviously won the Palme D’Or, with Shrek 2 winning the Grand Prix
it helps fionna especially in 1 and 4 is a real fleshed out character that we like....shes quirky and we find out not too early but early enough why and its a surprise and cool...otherwise it would be odd
TIMESTAMPS (SPOILERS):
0:00 - Intro
1:39 - Shrek (2001)
23:27 - Shrek 2 (2004)
38:48 - Shrek the Third (2007)
1:02:55 - Shrek Forever After (2010)
1:21:48 - Puss in Boots (2011)
1:31:13 - BONUS FILMS: Shrek The Musical & Shrek 4-D
1:35:47 - Q&A (Question Timestamps below)
1:36:00 - Question 1: What's your favorite Shrek meme?
1:37:22 - Question 2: What is your favorite and least favorite DreamWorks movie?
1:42:43 - Question 3: What are your opinions for the Amazon Prime show Invincible?
1:46:27 - Question 4: What do you guys think about the americanization of foreign films?
1:51:17 - Question 5: What do you guys opinions on the Resident Evil video games?
1:55:47 - Question 6: How do you guys feel about the FNAF movie getting made?
2:02:06 - Film Recommendation
thanks 🙏
Cheers 🍻
What about the time stamps for the particular questions?
Thanks 🙏
It's Americanization, not american association
Shrek the Third was the first movie I watched where I became aware that I wasn't having any fun watching it.
Shrek the Third (Meg Griffin): “You guys all think you’re so much better than me!”
Shrek (Peter Griffin): “Oh Shrek the Third, that is the least fanciest thing I have ever heard.”
Shrek 2 (Lois Griffin)
Shrek Forever After (Chris Griffin)
Even when I was kid I thought Shrek the Third was a lame title for Shrek 3.
Goddamn this is accurate.
I feel that. I also got that feeling watching the first live-action garfield movie. Its just.... not good
How does it say your comment was posted 2 days when the video's been up a couple of hours?
Ralph just saying "Shrek" at the very last possible second of the episode might have been the funniest thing I've heard him say on the podcast.
Amazing
Spoilers
@@Lion22249 Your fault for reading the comments.
He's usually too busy fake laughing.
he makes jokes constantly but his delivery makes him sound almost serious a lot of the time and adum kinda feeds into that, the fake laugh seems almost to spawn from the fact nobody knew he was kidding cause it seems to happen more often lately, or i just notice it more often. i also just listened to this while super high so maybe he makes more sense from that angle.
The magnum opus of this podcast.
Sardonicast episodes are like onions
@@Dethmaster64 they stink? (Jk I love this podcast :D)
Magnum Poopus rather
@@Haterator Lmao gottemmm
@@Dethmaster64 They fuck up your eyes the more you try cutting into them?
The same movie where Shrek farts to catch a fish was nominated for best adapted screenplay at the 2002 Oscars. :)
To be fair, it was very well adapted from the corresponding scene in the book
Alongside fellowship of the ring, and a beautiful mind
And I wouldn't have it any other way
I know you really wanted to make that joke but a simple gag does not reflect upon the general quality of the film.
It goes to prove that fart jokes aren't bad by design, is just that they're bad in most media, so we're used to assuming that
"There's Spanish guitar that plays whenever he's on screen" YES, Adum, because Puss in Boots loves the boogie woogie!
Read it like Antonio 😍
The beginning was just Ralph's audio from every episode combined.
I gotta wonder how confusing these references to Ralph's extremely poor early audio will be to new comers thirty episodes from now.
The Shrek Trilogy consists of 3 movies:
- Shrek
- Shrek 2
- Shrek Forever After
There are no other Shrek films.
Shrek 4 isn't good
@@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 we can agree to disagree
We don't talk about Shrek the Turd
@@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 Regardless of if you like it or not or if it's good or not... it's a masterpeice compared to Shrek the third.
@@calisha1889 no
that I Need A Hero scene from Sherk 2 is my favorite
1:40:58 Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, we laughed and rolled our eyes. Now we kneel before it's awesome might.
It was a masterpiece!
Shrek 2 doesn't have the dumb forced misunderstanding for the 2nd/3rd act that Shrek 1 has, which is part of why I think it's better
Its still a little frustrating with the charming pretending to be shrek thing and shrek giving up instead of just telling her immediatly (even though it is justified) but yeah
Your profile picture looks really familiar, but I can't quite place it.
@@HOTD108_ The IT lady from Community, also Frankie from s6
Yep, the misunderstading fucked up the movie for me.
Don't forget the original Shrek was trying to at least somewhat be a romantic-comedy. At the time the 'couple misunderstanding each other' wasn't just a cliché it was a trope. Though granted that being a big trope of the genre may be a big reason why it eventually died out. I understand that today that is seen as one of the more annoying elements of the movie, but from a 2001 perspective it made perfect sense to put it in.
The best part of the Cops parody is the "white bronco" line. They put an OJ gag in a kids film and it works. Those bastards actually did it.
Adam, there’s two important things I need you to know about Shrek the musical:
1. The guy who played Shrek (Brian D’Arcy James) Was Hannah Baker’s dad in 13 reasons why, and he turned down The lead role in a Pulitzer Prize winning musical to play Shrek.
2. Shrek the musical is one of the most popular shows in America for high school and community theater. You’d be hard-pressed to find an amateur drama group in the US that hasn’t done Shrek.
Please talk about the 2004 movie, Spongebob Squarepants movie, I pray to the Sardonicast gods every night for this to happen.
okay french fries
Nah. There would be a feeling of obligation that they’d have to watch the Spongebob Movie 2 and 3 lurking. I don’t think there’s enough substance worth talking about with Spongebob 2 and 3.
@@N1ght_walk I mean there's enough to talk about for at least 30 to 40 minutes with just the first one, if they really wanted to do it, the music and the singing parts of the film are enough to just cover about 10+ minutes.
That along with the Spy Kids series, Sharkboy and Lavagirl and The Cat in the Hat (2003)!
I so want Adam to do an Adum & Pals commentary track for The Cat in the Hat (2003)!
Unironically a perfect film I wouldn’t change even a frame of it because it’s just great watched since I was a kid the films is constantly funny
I'm from the future to tell you that Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish is fucking excellent, and the perfect way to cap off 2022
Shrek in Spanish has got to be the most hilarious experience for me. A lot of the voice actors had to improvise their lines and it made it 10X funnier and genuine
Improvise their lines? That sounds like a nightmare of a job xD
Do you know how that came to be?
@@AlfredSoul Shrek is an iconic movie series in LATAM due to the voice actors making subtle changes here in there or changin entire dialogues between characters to resonate more with the hispanic viewer. Even Antonio Banderas was funnier in the Spanish version than the English version
Most English phrases don't translate well in Spanish so a lot of time the voice actors have to find similar words or just improvise all together which makes the characters seem more genuine or funnier
For example, we don't know the story of the Muffin Man, it's not something we tell the kids here, however, we know the story of Pinpon. That entire scene was changed completely to fit that story and when compared the Spanish voice actors put a lot of effort on the scene.
The same thing happens with The Simpsons, although it is supposed to be a critique about the USA as a society, when done in Spanish the improvising is up to 100% which makes it hilarious and actually better than the English version
@@TheCrispyKiki Ah, I see, thanks for explaining all this.
I'm German, and since pretty much all of the popular "western" fairy tales originated here, the dub I've been exposed to for all of my childhood is practically identical to the English one with only minor changes in the case of, for example, jokes otherwise getting lost in translation.
As I don't speak spanish, I'm not familiar with the usual quality of Spanish voice acting, but in Germany, it is a pretty big independent industry with usually not just famous people or big actors voicing movie characters, so the quality is generally way better than the American originals, because of which I also prefer the German dub, in the case of Shrek and actually the Simpsons aswell, lol.
I believe I read it’s Spanish dub of The Emperor's New Groove. The Simpsons
,and especially Top cat were like that too I get the impression that Spanish dubbing companies who are assigned to dub more wacky cartoons they must let the voice actors do what ever. (Also I this must be is why Top Cat is the most popular and beloved Hanna Barbra franchise in Spanish speaking territories, and is more popular then
Scooby doo, or The Flintsones
Were in America Top Cat is largely forgotten )
@@notchuckproductions5029 There's an interview with the Spanish dub actor that does Homer in The Simpsons and the way he explains it is kind of what I envision. They just do whatever they feel is natural and if it's funny it sticks
my buddy did a scene in Shrek Retold and I'm so damn proud to know them
U make good animations and u like the same channels as me
I've noticed they don't even show Shrek the Third on tv anymore. Like whenever Freeform has a Shrek marathon it's always 1, 2, then 4 lmao
It doesn’t even matter
It's that bad and inconsequential.
The fourth one is the real conclusion of the trilogy.
I think I'm the only person who likes Shrek 3 but hates 4
@@waddafugg3072 I feel the same way. 4 sucks
Ive noticed that as well. I just see them showing one and two. Barely 4
Finally!! Ive been waiting for them to cover this iconic franchise forever!!
You guys need to talk about Road to El Dorado for a whole segment. That film is severely underrated!
Seen a lot of requests for the 2004 Spongebob movie today, will definitely jump on that idea, that would be a great discussion!
It would likely be a discussion on all the theatrical spongebob movies. Witch id be interested to hear Their thoughts on Sponge out of water
Fellow plant main
Shrek 2 is one of the best sequels, ever.
This is the one that Schaffrillas should’ve been here for
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this.
*Prince of Egypt not even being mentioned in a "best Dreamworks animated film" discussion*
:(
Apparently Mike Myers based the Shrek voice off his Scottish parents, which probably partly explains why it's a lot more nuanced than his Fat Bastard voice
I heard something similar to that, but that the voice is based off a voice his mother would make when reading him stories as a kid.
Oh, interesting. Then that's also the influence for his performance as a supporting character he played in one of his earlier movies (So I Married an Axe Murderer)
I'm upset Adam didn't start this with an All-Star parody.
same.
Maybe next year for the next anniversary...:(
think he already did that one
the opening and ending have the greatest energy I have ever heard on this podcast
yeah, it's like wet bread.
It’s pretty wild that dream works started with bible recreations, and went to shrek lmao. You guys should review the prince of Egypt and the Ten Commandments
Adum
Also Adum
Also Adum: *is trolling*
The kings are back
Sardonicast fan from Japan, “Cure” is actually a masterpiece and one of my favorite films of all time. This is the happiest thing that ever happened in my life.
I will also second the excellent motion to have Frederick Knudsen on the podcast!
Most underrated tuber ever
Knudsen, Internet Historian, Ssseth
The writer for Shrek 3 wrote Wild Wild west and How the Grinch stole Christmas
Dr Seuss?
@@frankmerker630 Isn't he a mega racist?
It was also written by the people who wrote who framed roger rabbit, which makes absolutely no sense because that movie is hilarious
@@HOTD108_ No
@@HOTD108_ he was racist towards Asians during WW2 and made some pretty cringe propaganda pieces (drawing Japanese people as typical asian caricatures etc), but later changed his views after the war. Horton Hears A Who was literally written as an allegory for America's occupation of Japan.
WAS THAT THE SARDONICAST OF 87?!!!
LMAO🤣
Shrek 1 ends with a dance party at Shrek and Fiona's wedding - i.e. a situation where having a dance party is appropriate and completely makes sense in context.
Then, after seeing how it was a nice way to end a film, Dreamworks decided every animated film had to end like that whether it made sense or not.
Something about 3 dudes talking about Shrek makes me so happy lol
Graduated HS in late May, now I gotta clean out my desk area. This came in clutch!
same here mah bruh , congrats to you and enjoy these sweet happy days ,
@@kenilmonpara6320 Thanks! Congrats to you too! :)
Damn, Prince of Egypt not even being brought up in the best Dreamworks movies question.
Yeah. Strange
maybe they havent all seen it yet
27:03- 27:14
>Adam mentions "FGM" and says to not look it up.
Me: * looks up "FGM" *
Oh...
Shrek the Turd shouldnt have killed Harold off, they wasted any potential growth to his and Shreks relationship moving on with the franchise and in the movie. They could had harold as a supportive Figure while shrek still doesnt know how to be a father/king
Shrek The Third feels... Dark to me. Like, Shrek 4 has the darker plot overall, but Shrek 3 just gives me a depressive feeling, it's weird as hell... For most of the movie the sky is gray and/or cloudy, and it has things like Fiona's dad dying and Shrek having to deal with being a father... It all gives me a very sour mood. Maybe it's because all of the jokes suck and the movie is boring and takes itself seriously, idk.
You're definitely on to something the how most of the film has grey cloudy skies. That's always confused me, like what was the creative reasoning for that? No idea.
One other thing I noticed is that a lot of scenes have an orange-ish tint to them, like if every scene besides night takes place in a sunrise. The skies are actually blue, but the lighting and slight desaturation of the colors make it look gray and dull. They basically decided to remove the colors from everything and gave it an orange-ish brown color grading, which is one of the stupidest decisions ever.
Gives me hangover 2 vibes
@@Everik-ct6pg works for shrek 4 where the world is supposed to be messed up, but not for shrek 3
the best comedy is at the school but they barley are there long and maybe get a few jokes out of a student before it moves to another scene/student character..that setting should of been like 1/3rd of the film[s run time and have them have to like find arthur or save him from bullies or catch him on the run through classes and activities and awkward chase sequenced montages like in scooby doo..the way it plays out is so short and then we get awkward walking around the woods humor which is so boring and flat and quiet...its cringe...
26:05 well this is not really a joke but I would say the most aged thing is the line "gender confused wolf" by the fairy godmother lol
@@balabanasireti The word "transgender" is actually considered problematic now, because they're not transitioning their gender, because they always were that gender, and society just assigned them the incorrect one at birth.
@@HOTD108_ Where did you see that?
@David Wolfish • 12 years ago
Yeah I never understood the change from the word "transsexual" to "transgender". What's the word now?
But he is gender confused...
You should space out the ads on this a bit more
Spamming their UA-cam videos with ads was how Jurassic World was able to pay for the genetic engineering to make Indominous Rex smile. Our Sardonibois have big plans.
I never even made the connection until now that Mike Meyers and Chris Farley were castmates on SNL.
I also joked to myself while watching this that Puss In Boots is like Solo: A Star Wars Story, and then I remembered that while watching the film a few months ago I made the exact same connection.
shrek 4 bangs harder than toni collette bashing her head in the ceiling circa hereditary
I swear someone at Netflix must be a sardonicast fan because Chinatown just got added and this is like the third time the recommendation has shown up a couple weeks later...
1:37:26 PRINCE OF EGYPT COME ON GUYS
have any of them even seen it?
Is it even popular outside the US? I feel I'd have been the right age to see it as a kid, or maybe a bit too young. Same question for all the 2D Dreamworks movies really.
IMO Shrek 2 is one of the best sequels of all time. The humor, writing, action, everything are significantly better than the first. If Shrek 1 is a 7 for me, I give Shrek 2 a 9/10. I'm very disappointed our Sardonibois didn't see the genius in it.
@@balabanasireti I love both, but I can't give them more than a 7 and a 9 respectfully. Going further than that seems a bit unjustified to me, just if you feel differently that's valid. Contrary to popular Mauler propaganda, art IS subjective.
how to spot a schaffrillas productions fan:
Didn't do much for me, sorry.
I agree but this feels like a joke
I love the first Shrek because there was something about it that was always small and personal to me. Maybe it is because Shrek 2 had a budget that was $90 million larger then its predecessor but that movie to me doesn't feel small or personal at all.
I'm please requesting you guys to watch The Spongebob Movie 2004, it's great imo
If you watch the 1st 2 and then Forever After it still works as a trilogy
Shrek 1 still holds up. It's nostalgic and it's a product of it's time, the music is good (the use of some pop songs in the movie can sometimes be jarring to hear, but it goes well with the weirdness of the movie), the voice acting is great, especially Eddie Murphy and John Lithgow, it's imaginative and creative and clever. You gotta give it credit. The animation hasn't aged well and can sometimes be a bit uncanny. A strong 7 out of 10.
@@NoxxPie I guess I’m referring to how it compares to the animation in Shrek 2. In Shrek 1, Fiona can sometimes look uncanny in her human form.
@@balabanasireti I know it’s going to boil down to personal preferences. The parodying of fairytales in Shrek 1 is still present in Shrek 2, but instead of telling a traditional fairytale story, the producers decided to take the series in a weird direction by telling a story of Shrek meeting Fiona’s parents. Thus making for funny gags between Shrek, Fiona, Fiona’s parents, and the people who live in the kingdom of Far, Far Away, where almost the entirety of the story takes place. Gone are the environmentally different places that the first film took you, and gone is the cleverness. More jokes are told and more characters are introduced. The music isn’t as memorable as the first film (pop songs are still used throughout the movie, but aren’t as jarring to hear this time around. I guess this has to do with the more traditional “meeting her parents” story being told and the audience becoming acclimated with pop songs being in Shrek movies), but the animation is better. There are some elements from Shrek 1 that I liked that are sprinkled into Shrek 2. 6 out of 10.
The use of pop songs were done intentionally to convey the tone and ideas and lessons the movie was trying to tell the audience. I think the choices were well made.
"still holds up" "it's nostalgic" that's a contradiction, either it actually holds up, or you just like it because of nostalgia. Which is it?
To clarify, liking something because of nostalgia means you don't actually like that thing, you just like the thought of being younger.
Y’all should do the original Scarface (1932) and the Al Pacino Scarface (1983)
At the end, Alex says that “cure” inspired “se7en”, but “Cure” came out two years after “Se7en”
Cure inspired Memories Murder (by Bong Joon-ho) and Zodiac( by David Fincher)
Shrek 1 is 8/10
Shrek 2 is straight up a masterpiece 10/10
this is ogrewhelming!
This is my absolute favorite episode of Sardonicast ❤
It's a little disappointing that they didn't review any of the shorts or Shrek 4D in more detail, so i'm gonna leave my thoughts on some of them in this comment, for anyone who cares:
Shrek 4D: It's worth a watch just to see a more fleshed-out & satisfying resolution to Farquaad's death. I always thought his demise came really abruptly in the original Shrek. The stone dragon flight sequence is actually pretty fucking cool to experience in the Universal theater itself. 7/10.
Shrek the Halls: Boring pile of dogshit. Nothing meaningful or memorable happens for almost the entire short. Everything goes how you'd expect it to, and it ends up just being a worse version of Shrek Forever After, just without any alternate dimension stuff. Shrek realizes his family and friends are what Christmas is all about instead of the idealized version he made up in his head, which is a dull message delivered with no wit or irony. I was wondering why it sucked so badly until i saw it was made the same year as Shrek 3, so it had the same talentless hack writers. I kinda liked the Hallmark store cashier at the beginning, for the 20 seconds she was in it. 2/10.
Thriller Night: Just a parody of the Thriller music video. Not really a short film, just a music video with Shrek in it. Not very inspired, but brings back a lot of unexpected characters as zombies, including the Pied Piper (which actually makes a ton of sense in that context), so I guess it had a couple neat moments. Inoffensive at best. 5/10.
Scared Shrekless: This one REALLY surprised me. It's more of a series of tiny short films inside a bigger short film framing device. Shrek's "The Exorcist" campfire story was the worst (still not awful; has a funny ending with Jiminy Cricket), Puss & Donkey's "Psycho" story was the best (lots of enjoyable absurdity that just keeps building & building), and Gingy's "Bride of Frankenstein" story was also pretty solid (Shrek the Halls has a quick dumb gag with Gingy's girlfriend as well, but this short does way more interesting stuff with her). The short doesn't have Eddie Murphy in it, unfortunately, but they got an EXCELLENT impersonator for him, and the writing for the character is just as witty and believable as Donkey is in any of the movies. 8/10.
Shrek's Yule Log: Whoever had the idea for this "short film" was on crack. It's literally just 30 (THIRTY) straight minutes of an animated fireplace, OCCASIONALLY interrupted by a character walking in front of the fire doing something mundane, like eating cookies or getting burned and running off-screen, quickly returning to a normal fireplace shot for another 6-7 minutes straight, until it just ends with the fire going out. One of the most inexplicable & bizarre Special Feature inclusions I've ever seen attached to any movie. Ever. 0/10. (or 10/10 depending on how you look at things like this)
Far, Far Away Idol: This is a more canon continuation of Shrek 2 than Shrek the Third is. I'm not kidding. It's basically just a karaoke compilation with some light interactivity. I will say that it's lazy bullshit that they didn't animate an ending for every character, because they offer you like 15 possible winners to choose from at the end, but Simon Fucking Cowell just rejects your choice for like 95% of the options and picks himself. I think only Donkey, Shrek, and Puss have unique endings, and are the only characters "allowed" to win. The short doesn't hold up that well anymore due to Simon Cowell's irrelevence in modern pop culture. Still better than Shrek 3. 4/10.
Thank you for coming to my Shrek talk.
Edit: I tried watching an episode of Puss in Boots (TV series), but I was so put off by the shitty Flash animation style that looks worse than most UA-camr animation that I stopped watching 2 minutes in. Not going to grade it. Someone let me know if there's anything worthwhile in it.
Puss in boots in honesly pretty good, story wise that is not really animation wise but yeah its kind of 50/50 between Goofy jokes and an overarching story. In general I find these dreamworks shows (penguins of Madagascar, king Julien, turbo fast) to be pretty damn underrated but that might just be nostalgia
IHE: “Home might be the most generic movie ever made…”
*Turbo has entered the chat*
Yeah Turbo is worse
Baffled someone can say that about Home when World War Z exists.
Adam will hate me for this, but the scene with Shrek on stage with the babies is my favourite scene of the movie. It was so bizarre which is what made it ironically funny.
Shrek and Shrek 2 are masterpieces to behold, and this is not sarcasm at all...
This reads like sarcasm.
Timestamps:
Intro: 0:00
Shrek: 1:42
Shrek 2: 23:25
Shrek 3: 38:47
Shrek 4: 1:02:55
Puss In Boots: 1:21:47
Shrek The Musical: 1:31:13
Shrek 4d: 1:33:50
Q & A timestamps:
Q & A Intro: 1:35:06
Favorite Shrek Meme?: 1:35:59
What is your favorite and least favorite Dreamworks movie?: 1:37:21
What are your opinions on Invincible?: 1:42:43
What are your thoughts on Another Round getting an American remake?: 1:46:27
What are your opinions on Resident Evil?: 1:51:17
How do you feel about the upcoming FNAF movie?: 1:55:47
Outro: 2:01:54
Alex's recommendation is Cure (1997)
Ah yes, the intro and Shrek 1 discussion appear at
@@worlds1ep3enthusiast92 oh shoot, that was a mistake. I will fix it
You should’ve brought back Schaffrillas.
I hope they never bring him back. I literally could not *stand* him, he just said “like” about 5 times per sentence, it was super irritating. And I love his content too
Farquad is the funniest character ever, hes designed specifically to make me lose my shit everytime i see him
I used to like Shrek 3 as a kid because Shrek and Shrek 2 had a lot of scenes that were too emotionally intense for me. I was in elementary school.
I would love to hear more of their opinion on Kung Fu Panda.
@@NoxxPie Well, I know Adum likes the first one.
I've realised Adam really doesn't like sequels where characters unlearn or forget the lessons or arch of the first movie.
This is the peak of the podcast
I love Kiyoshi Kurosawa, I'm excited that you are talking about him. Maybe after Cure talk about Pulse, or some of his non horror films like Tokyo Sonata.
The gigantic battle with the fat bugs in Ants is fucking crazy. As a kid it scared the hell out of me.
Damn, that thumbnail is sorta trippy
The first Shrek is iconic and I adore it but the 2nd is my absolute favourite. For as far as I'm concerned, Shrek only has two films.
Then Puss has his own spin-off films.
I enjoy most Dreamworks films to some extent but The Road to El Dorado is one of the worst animated films I have ever seen.
I will fight you
I found it boring and incredibly unfunny, at least it has amazing animation.
no timestamps ight
Yeah wtf the one "timestamp" is a complete troll
idk "spoilers for shrek" is a great meme
Oh, it appears we're all getting Shrek'd today.
Me hearing these three explain that the Shrek movies are better than they deserve to be and that Puss is a flat character right before Puss in Boots: The Last Wish blew it out of the fucking park 💀
"We need Shrek to say fuck"
-Ralphthemoviemaker
Sardonicast is love....Sardonicast is life.
Jesus that’s a lot of ads
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@@dex3625 Pls watch the ads to support the boys.
@@HOTD108_ don't care, they have a patreon where people can support them personally
My ratings
Shrek: 9/10
Shrek 2: 10/10 (Genuinely)
Shrek the Third: 3/10
Shrek Forever After: 6/10
Puss in Boots: 5/10
Shrek: 8.5/10
Shrek 2: 9/10
Shrek 3: 7/10
Shrek 4: 9/10
Puss in Boots: 9/10
Shrek = 4/5
Shrek 2 = 4/5
Shrek 3 = 1/5
Shrek 4 = 3/5
Puss n Boots = 3/5
I never knew there was an American remake of Another Round in the works. When Alex brought that up I genuinely started shouting “No!” out loud over and over. Please fucking stop remaking things Hollywood
How tf is scoot okay with adam hating on the coolest anthropomorphic cat boi?
But guys, what about the scene in puss in boots where it reveals that humpty planned everything from the beginning and he was everywhere that puss was even when he was knocked out at the end he was throwing crumbs around puss so that the crows would circle around him and then the crows carry humpty off as he makes an oopsie face.
🥚
You people, youuuu people, you never stop, you can't resist. You keep going back to the Dreamworks well and dig and dig and dig.
“You people”? What do you mean “you people”?
@@Drewbibski These people man, the ones that watch movies. The ones with hair and stuff. You know what I mean. They wear skin and shit. Those people.
I was so confused by the thumbnail until I realized its 4 different posters. God damn the multiple S’s
Shrek 2 still to this day has the greatest & most hype climax in cinematic history. Animated or Not.
Thanks for this. Missed listening to the podcast.
Super hyped for the Cure discussion! I just watched it last month and it is amazing.
1:38:00 adam don't doubt yourself. it's literally 100% El Dorado, like what could even compete?
is there serioulsy a fucking ad every 10 minutes
I BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS ONE
Shrek was nominated for best adapted screenplay, alongside fellowship of the ring, best picture winner a beautiful mind, and two movies you’ve never heard of (ghost world and in the bedroom)
I've seen Ghost World...
Sorry, if you haven't heard of Ghost World you should broaden your movie view a little 😘
Imma be honest here, Shrek 2 is the sequel that improves itself over it’s predecessor and is up there with films like The Dark Knight, Aliens, Terminator 2, The Empire Strikes Back, The Godfather Part II and Paddington 2 as being one of the best movie sequels of all time! I honestly like it better than the first one and that’s definitely an unpopular opinion of mine.
Unpopular opinion, Shrek 4 >/= Shrek 1. The main problem with Shrek 4 is that Shreks motivations at the start are so stupid and rushed, he seems pretty out of character