She's insanely strong. I wouldn't be able to deal with that... she absolutely should at least get money from the city. Like holy shit these pieces of shits harrassed and ruined her life just out of absolute cruelty. The psychological terror on this one is another level.
I hate this world. It makes me so sad and incredibly angry that she had to hold her own!!!! I really hate that they've done this to her - and likely others. I can't stand it! She is incredibly strong. Bless Keyona!
She is a bad ass. I hate that she had to be one but I can only hope if I'm ever put into a situation like hers I could be so resilient. It is so unjust that they just decided it was her and wouldn't leave her alone.
Only if used during trial as evidence of guilt. Like if prosecuting attorney says something like "during interrogation you refused to answer questions without a lawyer present. Why would you need a lawyer if you're not guilty?" At least that's how I understand it.
@@03ai_ey it’s a pretty simple answer to that question. Why didn’t I answer questions without a lawyer if I’m not guilty? Because it’s my constitutional right, and because you never trust a cop.
@@peterblack_ I think that you misinterpreted what I said or vice versa... I'm having difficulties parsing out if you're arguing. I was saying it keeps the jury's opinion from being influenced by the asking if the question in the first place. Also if someone didn't happen to have a good answer come to mind for whatever reason, your use of your rights won't end up as evidence of your guilt. Cops are allowed to lie to you and ask whatever they want in an interrogation, that's their free speech, but your answer to that cannot be brought up in court to help prove your guilt.
@@03ai_ey my point is that the jury is not able to ask that question anyway. Using a lawyer and exercising your own rights is not evidence of anything, and the question would be shut down in a court room immediately.
@@peterblack_ yeah we are just agreeing lmao. I think I just worded my first comment funny. The detectives can ask whenever they take you in for questioning, but i think it's just an attempt to dissuade you from asking for one if you don't know your rights well
I'm so proud of Keyona during this interview! #ACAB #DefundThePolice Remember Am I under arrest? CAN I leave? and I would like to request a lawyer? WHY ARE THEY STILL QUESTIONING HER? 🤦🏻♀️ She asked several times. SHE SHOILD SUE! I HOPE THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS AND GO TO JAIL.
the main detective was fired, hopefully the fact that the actual perp was found to be simply someone so close to her follows him and makes it hard for him to get back in the field. hopefully the dudes working at whirlpool himself now.
the level of class this woman must have after being accused of this gruesome, baseless crime for over a year, having it affect her livelihood, her reputation and her family. i would have just about punched the fuck out of the detective for the harassment
“Marijuana in your house” doesn’t make you a murderer and it’s just funny how marijuana isn’t even illegal anymore so it just shows you how stupid this reasoning is and how ridiculous it was to have marijuana ever considered illegal
It almost seems like its made that way so that poor people who dont know their rights become less likely to get help. You are correct it should just be automatic 100%
Jesus, I feel horrible for this Heather woman, it sounds like everybody around her was terrible to her and completely unsupposrtive, which makes me feel almost worse for her child
20:50 isn't it super illegal to imply that requesting a lawyer or pleading the fifth means you're guilty? At the very least, that part of the interview would be thrown out of court to avoid jury corruption
I guess you'd have to argue how coercive it is, but I'm not immediately finding anything. The cops can't pretend to be your lawyer, but they are allowed to lie. From my understanding, they're at least allowed to imply it. Like, "you're not under arrest. I don't think you need a lawyer if you didn't do anything." Which is given as advice to not believe, so my takeaway is they can do anything other than pose as counsel or deny counsel after a reasonable request for a lawyer. And cops wonder why people don't want to talk to them, anymore...
Detective: “alright, let’s see… how many black people are in this town? Three? Ok boys, looks like we’re dealing with another classic triple-assailant murder case. Now let’s try to narrow down our suspects. Hmm where to start…? Oh wait I know!”
@@johnnydeleon8210press release: “the department is ground to announce we have finally taken down a group of ruthless murders after great police work.” 😭😭
Holy shit. Grew up in that town, but moved out a decade ago. County is corrupt AF. When I was growing up, school superindentant got busted for embezzling something like $1M (which is a LOT for such a small town). My former DARE officer got busted for burglarizing the local video store. There are so many patrol officers, they just spend their time harassing anyone they don't like (I was someone they didn't like). They lock up children for extended periods of time for petty crimes (I was one of those children). And yeah, town is racist as hell. All the factories pay shit, and the county lets them just dump shit in the ground. It's small-town hell-world.
The only word you should ever say to a cop is "lawyer" doesn't matter how innocent you actually are or not that is the only word you should say if a cop starts asking questions
I've also heard if you wanna stay silent you actually have to say "I invoke my right to stay silent" or something, otherwise they can do mental gymnastics about why you're not talking
@@wicked5999 yeah you have to be direct, no "shouldnt i be talking to a lawyer?' or anything, the cops wont stop questioning you unless you say exactly what you want, once they read you the Miranda rights theres no reason for you to let them say anything else to you
My routine is always: am I free to go? If not I need a lawyer. And so far 100% of the time they just hand me back my id and say have a nice day, sorry to bother you.
In a lot of these interrogation reactions, chat (and the comment section) will spam “lawyer!” Ideally yeah, you should always ask for a lawyer during questioning, but sometimes in reality it’s not so cut-and-dry. Back in the day I had some legal trouble over some dumb shit that I did, and when I got scooped up by the police and sat in front of the detective, I knew perfectly well that I could request a lawyer, and that it would probably help lessen the overall punishment on the other end. At the same time, I HAD to work the next day, or risk losing my job (or at the very least, end up coming up short on paying my rent which was already behind…), blah blah blah basically there was a very real chance that if I didn’t make it out by the following day for work, I could end up homeless very soon. So I knew that I could request a lawyer be present for my questioning… but I also knew that it would drag out the whole process for wayyy longer. On the other hand, I could just go along with the questioning, basically confess to what I was being accused of, be charged, spend the night in jail, be arraigned in the morning, likely be released O/R (aka get out without having to pay any bail) since it was a first offense and I didn’t have a record, go home, shower, and get to work on time the following afternoon. Get paid, pay rent, go to court a few weeks later and deal with whatever repercussions came my way. So that’s what I did. I was in a crushing cycle of poverty (which had put me into a position where I felt like my only option was to resort to stealing; the crime I was arrested for was stealing by the way)… and so despite having basic legal rights - and _knowing_ them - I was precluded from being able to assert those rights because of my shitty circumstances. D:
Plus if you don’t qualify for a public attorney, it doesn’t mean you can still afford one. Public attorneys also don’t give a shit and will 9/10 push for a plea deal, regardless of your innocence.
I understand the reasoning. I think it depends a bit on what crimes you are accused of and could be added on to you. It's also a systematic failure on multiple ends that create these problems that put you in a situation that forced you. But yeah you have a point
This sums up the ENTIRE cycle of poverty and crime so well. Not getting a lawyer because you can’t afford a day off of work, let alone the crime being committed because of poverty in the first place. God forbid you were to end up houseless because you need an address and working phone to get government assistance too. The cycle is so obvious and crushing, especially when you mix racial discrimination into most cases.. idk how people can still deny this.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you’re in a more stable position now. Can I ask you what happened w the interview? Did u end up spending the night in jail or what happened??
2 days after murder. Email: "Hey, I know someone who would be capable of doing that who worked with her at whirlpool." Let's just ignore that one... Hmm, single mother, black, lives nearby. WEED SMELL COMPLAINT!? THIS MUST BE IT! YES YES. IM A GENIUS!
Obviously, not all people with antisocial personality disorders are murderers or have malicious intents, but him having ASPD was a huge factor. He's not a murderer because he has anti-social personality disorder, his supposed personality disorder and his upbringing led him to be that person. Nature and nurture both play a role. People who don't feel empathy can still understand compassion. They just can't place themselves in other people's shoes, but they know the concept of it, they objectively know right from wrong, and can learn to predict the outcome of their actions before acting out on any malicious intent. It's not like their ASPD brain makes them inherently murder people lol.
exactly it's a very huge factor infact most killers that don't have a capacity for empathy are diagnosed with this disorder. Ofc, there are other factors too but not having empathy is unsurprisingly one of the biggest if not the biggest factor imo which is why people diagnosed with this need mental health support.
i think this was chatters point - “he’s not a murderer because he has ASPD” but that it could still be a factor, sure. i think they were just making sure the blame stayed on the murderer, and not shifted to ASPD.
@@ambatuBUHSURK pretty sure their point was “sociopaths aren’t always bad people, stop using their disorder as an excuse for why they killed people, most ASPD folks would never do that.”
Am I missing the part where he was actually diagnosed with APD and not armchair psycologied into it for no real reason (somewhat genuinely asking, after the first half of his weird unwarranted diagnosis I clicked off and came to hasan, so idk if he was later actually diagnosed in jail or smthn)
Imagine being the kid and years later you watch hasan piker reacting to your mothers murder and chat is making jokes about you murdering her as a 5 yr old... sometimes i feel like we are way too far gone.
I like hasan and his content, but sometimes I feel like he's a real asshole when it comes to sensitive topics/issues. I know he is not a bad person, but sometimes he seems like one
People cope with shit differently. Some people feel the need to make jokes to lighten a mood. Others feel the need to establish a moral high ground so that they can replace their discomfort with condescension. Different strokes for different folks.
This reminds me of the west Memphis three murders where Jerry Driver preemptively zeroed in on Damien Echols and then shoehorned him into the case. Literally stalked him and by doing that totally destroyed the hope of ever getting it solved.
So triggered by this case, I had an ex just like this and people never take it seriously until something happens. It’s insane. All the red flags and they still get the benefit of the doubt.
hey can I ask you something? im 18 okay? I have a long distance bf who keeps mentioning lots of detailed fantasies about physically abusing me, the details were very se----x related like once we'll meet or get married and he keeps on saying horrible things and he doesnt stop until I cry and then he feels sasticfiction and also i tried to break up with him but im too afraid to tell him because i sent things to him that if my family knew I'd be dead in a moment -not kidding- im so afraid after watching this cuz i know he is capable of doing much worse to me he makes me tell him stories which latterly fucked my mental health since i said them - like saying I was raped by group of Syrian army, or israelis and I would cry he wouldnt care until I say it exactly this " I got raped because im a syrian bitch" - , like I'd say anything he wants and I dont know how to get out of this because im honestly so scared of dying between his hands or my family's keep in mind Ive been in this for about two years now and he never once toke no as an answer, Im sure he would send my picture to my family if I did anything otherwise than what he wants this is the first time I've ever write this no one know no one just any one who's reading rn i guess I just want it to stop without me dying im so afraid english isnt my first langauge sorry if you cant understand me
please respond I cant keep living in this nightmare, he knows everything about me and where my house is I dont go out side at all, my family dont let me but the next year I will have to go to university and if he ever had a chance to stay with me alone, he would 100% do something bad let alone him being capable of hitting me to death while I wont be able to do anything I know for a fact he has a gun too i cant tell no one im afraid the fear ruined me as a person for two years
@@itsmeayat0-045don't tell him where you're going to university, if he does reveal anything to your parents chances are he's going to prison for distributing CP, assuming you're talking about pictures. If he shares stuff with your parents just tell them it's AI generated and he was threatening you, and you thought it would save them from shame to keep it hidden. Might not work but it's worth a try. Maybe see if you can get your parents to move with the excuse of being closer to the university? Explain what AI generated images are first and maybe you can just tell them this guy has been blackmailing you with AI generated images for the whole time and get them to protect you. If none of that works, try to slowly fade out of his life. Rarely reply to messages, try to make him bored. When you leave the house try not to go out without a friend with you. From my experience with stalkers, the feeling of being watched or followed can be very real. Stay safe. Good luck. Wish I could offer better advice but just rely on the fact that your family probably doesn't understand AI that well and you can use it as an excuse for anything they would attack you for.
not the cop saying "if you ask for a lawyer that just tells me you have something to hide" when we literally have the 5th amendment saying theyre not allowed to hold it against you if you choose not to speak.... 💀💀
There’s an important delineation that should be made when talking about ASPD and psychopathy. Psychopathy refers to a person with ASPD who does not feel empathy. Therefore, all psychopaths have ASPD, but not all people with ASPD are psychopaths. In fact, it is only a small percentage of people with ASPD who are psychopaths. Thus, the chatter who said that they have ASPD and do feel empathy could very well be truthful - that would just mean that they are not a psychopath.
i didn’t realized that was why he’s always clapping randomly. who the fuck doesn’t have _bug screens??_ haha that’s insane. maybe in LA everyone is just so used to air conditioning no one there has ever actually opened a window, so now when he does it he’s just completely unprepared for the consequences…
Nah I have bug screens too but they’re so thin that there’s ALWAYS small holes around the edge, plus small flies can fit through the screen. He prob does have them
There is also no such a thing as a psychopath. It's a crime/court word to call someone evil, not a disorder. The "criteria" grabs pretty much everyone as a psychopath.
Daniel didn't "hide his crimes" because he doesn't see them as crimes. He's sick and twisted and explains away raping women by saying they don't remember liking it. In his mind it's all a misunderstanding
sometimes hasan has to understand although 9/10 chat is being complete morons, some chatters have something worthwhile to say. 1:21:04 having antisocial personality disorder (aka, as hassan points out, psychopathy) does not mean that person will murder someone. plenty of people live thier lives with this disorder and do not seriously harm or kill anyone. ASPD presents with irritability, impulsivity, deceitfulness, and may be quicker to aggression, along with a lack of empathy and regard for consequences. this results in a higher amount of arrests related to destruction of property, harassment, or even in some cases assault. not every person with ASPD is the same. sure, some people with ASPD are violent. chatter was only pointing out the way they always go “THE CRAZY MURDERER HAS ASPD” and ASPD gets blamed rather than the individual. y’know.. the murderer. love this quote from my textbook ~ it is important to remember individuals with mental illness are not automatically dangerous, and dangerous individuals are not automatically mentally ill” ~ stay safe! you are loved ❤ EDIT; Spelling/rewording ps. love hasan, and how much he has grown over the years. cant wait to see where he goes (:
also sexual sadism disorder and sadistic personality disorder are real disorders that many serial killers have been demonstrated to have. This isn't the same as consensual sadomasochism which is a kink. The disorders only involve unwilling victims.
From Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism: "The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. The chemico-biologization of mental illness is of course strictly commensurate with its depoliticization. Considering mental illness an individual chemico-biological problem has enormous benefits for capitalism. First, it reinforces Capital's drive towards atomistic individualization (you are sick because of your brain chemistry). Second, it provides an enormously lucrative market in which multinational pharmaceutical companies can peddle their pharmaceuticals (we can cure you with our SSRIs). It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism."
Yeah type B personality disorders (narcissism, antisocial, borderline) are widely misunderstood and have a terrible reputation. "Psychopathy" isn't even a thing anymore and our understanding and diagnostics have evolved since then. A problem is that research is often done on extreme cases which back then were violent criminals... and nowadays you only hear about extremes on social media too. The stigma that comes along with these diagnosis really sucks, I've had friends that were harassed over it... :/ On one side it's important to be open about it to change things but there's a lot of bad stuff that comes from it
@@idontcare9041 wow, what an eloquent comment. I have Borderline, and was diagnosed fairly recently considering I’ve been in all kinds of therapy since I was 10. I’m also a psychology student, so when a new Psych suggested I seemed to fit the criteria, I reacted negatively internally bc there is such a stigma, sadly even in the field of psychology. I was misdiagnosed as bi polar depressive my whole life.
I live in Australia and know of a similar case to leigh Anne's "suicide". This guy went missing for like 6 years before his skeleton was found. He has been shot in the back of the head with a rifle (about the same size as the one in Leigh Anne's case) and the empty bullet casing had been unloaded before being stashed, in a rockface, 10 meters from where the skeleton was found. The concluded that he probably shot himself, unloaded the casing, stashed the gun and crawled 10 meters away before dying. the case was never actually closed as a 'suicide' because of "unusual circumstances". There's backstory and such to the story but just that is unbelievable to me.
What's crazy to me is that so many people who look and seem completely normal, like anybody else you see daily, can be such horrible not even people, absolutely deplorable scumbags. That's the scary part imo
For sure. Statistically speaking if you see a thousand people there'll always be some pretty dangerous ones in there. Now go somewhere public how many thousands of people will be at least in your vicinity?
The most dangerous ones at least are in plain sight. They all wear the same uniform, get paid to stalk and intimidate you while they carry deadly weapons and have the impunity to kill you for any real or imagined reason at any time. Terrifying.
I love me some freaky looking bastards cus of this. Can't hide their opinions cus everyone be bothering them for looking freaky unlike those one just says hi and bye too.
I’d never heard this case before but holy crap, the complete idiocy of the first detective is infuriating!! This case was like an open book omfg, they even got an email 2 days after the murder saying they knew info on one of her coworkers who they thought was connected, and the murderer was such an idiot he didn’t even try to hide his stalking and crime 🙄 well except for the new floors and weird cleaning equipment, which just makes him even more sus!! Poor heather man, at least they caught the guy in the end I guess. They also ruined several random, innocent peoples lives along the way, that poor girl who’s bd they locked up :(
...Police really said "How many Blacks we got in town again? 3? Okay they probably all did it like always, round 'em up! We're gonna get them this time!"
as someone whos shy, social insecure his whole life, it only made me more compassionate since i know what it feels like, i give my sis, my friends and anyone who needs it all the love and support
1:11:30 "White Supremacy ultimately ends up harming White people regularly." THANK 👏 YOU 👏 ~ Toxic/Bigoted systems of oppression also harm the perceived oppressor group. In less obvious ways. Such as the biases that happened in this case. ~ Not to mention that regular Euro Americans who make average incomes are SOLD the idea of their supremacy in order to further separate each other from class unity with people of other ethnicities.
1:20:00 the person wasn't saying that he was just antisocial. They were saying that having antisocial personality disorder does not automatically mean that person is evil or has murder on the mind or whatever.
Side note: ASPD is a spectrum, the terms psychopath and sociopath are only applied to people who meet specific criteria at an extreme end of the spectrum. Meaning people diagnosed with ASPD are NOT automatically sociopaths or psychopaths, but (clinically diagnosed) psychopaths and sociopaths are automatically also diagnosed with ASPD on an extreme end of the spectrum. There has been pretty positive results of early intervention and therapy helping kids and young people with ASPD with learning empathy. But unfortunately ASPD statistics will never be completely accurate, because when you do get to that extreme end of the spectrum, those people refuse to believe there’s anything wrong with them and they would never let themselves be psychoanalysed 🙃
1:20:54 no this chatter is right. Antisocial Personality Disorder in a clinical sense is not a 1:1 (or even close) to the colloquial understanding of a “sociopath”. APD is honestly one of those bullshit Foucault ass disorders that exist more as a tool of the state than anything. I almost got diagnosed with it bc I told my counselor I stole a juice from my college library’s cafe and didnt feel bad about it. At it’s core all antisocial personality disorder means is that you don’t prescribe to the morality of the state. So if you don’t have any moral qualms about petty shoplifting, graffiti, skating in skate-free zones, or you get into fights at school, skip school etc, that’s _more_ than enough to be diagnosed. There are a ton of people with antisocial diagnoses that are no different than any of your “troubled youth” rebellious friends as kids. No doubt Brace Belden would’ve qualified for a diagnosis in his teens and I wouldn’t be surprised if he still does. It’s impossible to really get into in a youtube comment but chatter was right for once. The whole pop-psych industry around “the dark triad” etc is all bullshit fear mongering. It gives consumers something to have fun being afraid of at the expense of real people’s humanity. What we understand as sociopathy/psychopathy probably should have it’s own diagnostic criteria tbh. But right now the term is so useless it can’t differentiate from your anarchist friend that protests police brutality and does graffiti and a serial rapist.
Damn it’s kinda disheartening seeing Hasan and so many chatters confidently wrong about this. I guess it’s a good thing bc it means most of them never had a brush in with the law.
and before somebody tells me what the exact definition on APD is. I know… thats why I said it’s way too complex to get into in a youtube comment. The reality is, _in practice_ all APD really means is that the person diagnosed with it doesn’t have moral objections with breaking societal rules - and interpreting what societal rules are serious enough to warrant that diagnosis are totally up to the clinicians discretion. If you tell your psychiatrist you don’t think it’s wrong to like… write graffiti that is enough for them to diagnose you.
1:24:17 one of the reasons antisocial personality disorder is so overrepresented in prison is specifically because by the definitional nature of the disorder: committing a crime without remorse means you fit the criteria for APD. If you sold weed and dont feel bad about doing so. You can get diagnosed. The disorder is fundamentally inseparable from the ideology of the state which prescribes it.
I thought it was more of a lack of empathy thing, and the crimes are somewhat a result of that. Like if one has no empathy for other people, they would not feel bad about robbing or whatever it is. That being the case, APD persons can still feel love, form strong relationships, and value human life, they just do it in a different, more conscious way than neuro typical people.
Murder: is a murderer and a bad person Ytbr: so anyway here’s my disorder diagnosis for no reason What on earth was the point ,I’m like I’m used to it but in this video it was just extra out of nowhere and wasn’t even a good try
Bonus rant topic: criminal psychoanalysts somehow diagnose like 70% of criminals with ASPD. Going by the statistics of prison pop, most likely every single person I've ever known has ASPD, as they've broken some dumb law that carries a short sentence and don't care about it. Also, skipping school= watch this kid, prob a psycho.
This is so crazy. I watch a video… and think I should send it so Hasan can react… a few days later… lol This one is so crazy! U keep hearing and the story doesn’t stop here lol
random tangent on "an innocent person is likely to become a bit hostile" that was me when i gave birth and the nurses were accusing me of being an opioid user, not letting me breastfeed my daughter. i was firm, i was a >bit< hostile, and they still were talking about "your baby has withdrawals." come to find out that it was poppy seeds that gave me a positive result lmao. at the time i was like "is my frustration making me look guilty?" apparently not, but the nurses certainly didnt believe me, and also, now i know they treat addicts like shit so theres that
People with ASD can feel everything - in fact they feel it even more then the Noirotypicall ppl! They are not psychopaths or narcissists (though a person with ASD can have a borderline or any other neurological disorder). I am mother of 2 children with ASD.
God bless Keyona, she really held her own
She's insanely strong. I wouldn't be able to deal with that... she absolutely should at least get money from the city. Like holy shit these pieces of shits harrassed and ruined her life just out of absolute cruelty. The psychological terror on this one is another level.
I hate this world. It makes me so sad and incredibly angry that she had to hold her own!!!! I really hate that they've done this to her - and likely others. I can't stand it! She is incredibly strong. Bless Keyona!
and was kept out of jobs for years it seems like. I'd sue the shit out of the county or w/e that was
She is a bad ass. I hate that she had to be one but I can only hope if I'm ever put into a situation like hers I could be so resilient. It is so unjust that they just decided it was her and wouldn't leave her alone.
I was just thinking the same thing, put my mind at ease hearing her speak up. In front of cops too, that's hard as shit. Fuck those hogs
White suspect: “we’re so sorry to bother you sir”
Black suspect: “you smell like weed so you did the murder”
cop looking to target poc vs cops doing their jobs **
White suspect: ( gets a full meal from McDonald's)
Black suspect: “even if you didn’t do it, you did it”
White suspect: *gets a really deep bj by the most heterosexual christian male cop in the department*
@@AgitpropPsyop Straight out the womb into a jail cell
I’m pretty sure telling her getting a lawyer “means she has something to hide” is a fifth amendment violation.
Only if used during trial as evidence of guilt. Like if prosecuting attorney says something like "during interrogation you refused to answer questions without a lawyer present. Why would you need a lawyer if you're not guilty?" At least that's how I understand it.
@@03ai_ey it’s a pretty simple answer to that question. Why didn’t I answer questions without a lawyer if I’m not guilty? Because it’s my constitutional right, and because you never trust a cop.
@@peterblack_ I think that you misinterpreted what I said or vice versa... I'm having difficulties parsing out if you're arguing. I was saying it keeps the jury's opinion from being influenced by the asking if the question in the first place. Also if someone didn't happen to have a good answer come to mind for whatever reason, your use of your rights won't end up as evidence of your guilt. Cops are allowed to lie to you and ask whatever they want in an interrogation, that's their free speech, but your answer to that cannot be brought up in court to help prove your guilt.
@@03ai_ey my point is that the jury is not able to ask that question anyway. Using a lawyer and exercising your own rights is not evidence of anything, and the question would be shut down in a court room immediately.
@@peterblack_ yeah we are just agreeing lmao. I think I just worded my first comment funny. The detectives can ask whenever they take you in for questioning, but i think it's just an attempt to dissuade you from asking for one if you don't know your rights well
I'm so proud of Keyona during this interview! #ACAB #DefundThePolice Remember Am I under arrest? CAN I leave? and I would like to request a lawyer? WHY ARE THEY STILL QUESTIONING HER? 🤦🏻♀️ She asked several times. SHE SHOILD SUE! I HOPE THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS AND GO TO JAIL.
the main detective was fired, hopefully the fact that the actual perp was found to be simply someone so close to her follows him and makes it hard for him to get back in the field. hopefully the dudes working at whirlpool himself now.
the level of class this woman must have after being accused of this gruesome, baseless crime for over a year, having it affect her livelihood, her reputation and her family. i would have just about punched the fuck out of the detective for the harassment
FED!!!!!!
@@Fleato cringe. Imagine being in Hasan's comments and using a working class job as an insult
@@nevenblanchard5728 oh come off it. I’m in a working class job as well. Imagine being the word police. Cringe.
Poor woman was being abused by so many people in her life and then killed in such a horrible way.
“Marijuana in your house” doesn’t make you a murderer and it’s just funny how marijuana isn’t even illegal anymore so it just shows you how stupid this reasoning is and how ridiculous it was to have marijuana ever considered illegal
Fr sometimes they'd refer to it as illegal drugs and it took me a solid few seconds to figure out what he was talking about
Or "dope"
Imagine a world where your right to a lawyer was automatic instead of having to ask for it. 🤔
It almost seems like its made that way so that poor people who dont know their rights become less likely to get help. You are correct it should just be automatic 100%
she even asks twice..
But then we wouldn't have so much good JCS-like content to React to
Please respect ✊🏼 9/11 victims, families and witnesses
@@matt.stevick 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Jesus, I feel horrible for this Heather woman, it sounds like everybody around her was terrible to her and completely unsupposrtive, which makes me feel almost worse for her child
20:50 isn't it super illegal to imply that requesting a lawyer or pleading the fifth means you're guilty? At the very least, that part of the interview would be thrown out of court to avoid jury corruption
I guess you'd have to argue how coercive it is, but I'm not immediately finding anything. The cops can't pretend to be your lawyer, but they are allowed to lie. From my understanding, they're at least allowed to imply it. Like, "you're not under arrest. I don't think you need a lawyer if you didn't do anything." Which is given as advice to not believe, so my takeaway is they can do anything other than pose as counsel or deny counsel after a reasonable request for a lawyer.
And cops wonder why people don't want to talk to them, anymore...
I think maybe it's only illegal if lawyers do it? Idk, ive only ever seen judges freak out about it when a prosecutor tries it in court shows
Cops do a lot of illegal things…
It’s not ilegal but prosecutors cannot use it on trial to aid their allegations be believed in trial. No judge will permit it.
Detective: “alright, let’s see… how many black people are in this town? Three? Ok boys, looks like we’re dealing with another classic triple-assailant murder case. Now let’s try to narrow down our suspects. Hmm where to start…? Oh wait I know!”
" AND I WANT IT DONE BY THE BOOKS!"
@@johnnydeleon8210press release: “the department is ground to announce we have finally taken down a group of ruthless murders after great police work.” 😭😭
Holy shit. Grew up in that town, but moved out a decade ago. County is corrupt AF. When I was growing up, school superindentant got busted for embezzling something like $1M (which is a LOT for such a small town). My former DARE officer got busted for burglarizing the local video store. There are so many patrol officers, they just spend their time harassing anyone they don't like (I was someone they didn't like). They lock up children for extended periods of time for petty crimes (I was one of those children). And yeah, town is racist as hell. All the factories pay shit, and the county lets them just dump shit in the ground. It's small-town hell-world.
Where is this?
@@Sauronshield it’s Clyde, Ohio in Sandusky County
Dear lord glad u got outta there man
Yeah I'm from a neighboring town and it sucks ass
Oh yeah I worked with Omar's fiance and recognize Carmella from school
The only word you should ever say to a cop is "lawyer" doesn't matter how innocent you actually are or not that is the only word you should say if a cop starts asking questions
I've also heard if you wanna stay silent you actually have to say "I invoke my right to stay silent" or something, otherwise they can do mental gymnastics about why you're not talking
@@wicked5999 yeah you have to be direct, no "shouldnt i be talking to a lawyer?' or anything, the cops wont stop questioning you unless you say exactly what you want, once they read you the Miranda rights theres no reason for you to let them say anything else to you
My routine is always: am I free to go? If not I need a lawyer. And so far 100% of the time they just hand me back my id and say have a nice day, sorry to bother you.
I’m 100% in agreement. Even if you’re giving a witness/victim statement. Have a lawyer at least on hand. Cops are not trustworthy.
10 years for a first drug offense!?!?!?
5 years for drugs and 5 years for being in posession of too much melanin
Yeah, right?! Everyone just breezed right past that 🤔
The detective was so disgusting in this case. I feel so bad for the woman who had to endure a whole year with that pig
Its literally harassment but its supposed to be okay because he's a cop.
Like the cop is actually a stalker.
'yeah you're autisic that's different' is the funniest thing he's ever yelled and I stand by it
In a lot of these interrogation reactions, chat (and the comment section) will spam “lawyer!” Ideally yeah, you should always ask for a lawyer during questioning, but sometimes in reality it’s not so cut-and-dry.
Back in the day I had some legal trouble over some dumb shit that I did, and when I got scooped up by the police and sat in front of the detective, I knew perfectly well that I could request a lawyer, and that it would probably help lessen the overall punishment on the other end. At the same time, I HAD to work the next day, or risk losing my job (or at the very least, end up coming up short on paying my rent which was already behind…), blah blah blah basically there was a very real chance that if I didn’t make it out by the following day for work, I could end up homeless very soon.
So I knew that I could request a lawyer be present for my questioning… but I also knew that it would drag out the whole process for wayyy longer. On the other hand, I could just go along with the questioning, basically confess to what I was being accused of, be charged, spend the night in jail, be arraigned in the morning, likely be released O/R (aka get out without having to pay any bail) since it was a first offense and I didn’t have a record, go home, shower, and get to work on time the following afternoon. Get paid, pay rent, go to court a few weeks later and deal with whatever repercussions came my way.
So that’s what I did.
I was in a crushing cycle of poverty (which had put me into a position where I felt like my only option was to resort to stealing; the crime I was arrested for was stealing by the way)… and so despite having basic legal rights - and _knowing_ them - I was precluded from being able to assert those rights because of my shitty circumstances. D:
Totally agree that it's not always cut and dry.
Cops also like to threat you with the arrest of your friends too if "someone doesn't start talking."
Plus if you don’t qualify for a public attorney, it doesn’t mean you can still afford one. Public attorneys also don’t give a shit and will 9/10 push for a plea deal, regardless of your innocence.
I understand the reasoning. I think it depends a bit on what crimes you are accused of and could be added on to you. It's also a systematic failure on multiple ends that create these problems that put you in a situation that forced you. But yeah you have a point
This sums up the ENTIRE cycle of poverty and crime so well. Not getting a lawyer because you can’t afford a day off of work, let alone the crime being committed because of poverty in the first place. God forbid you were to end up houseless because you need an address and working phone to get government assistance too. The cycle is so obvious and crushing, especially when you mix racial discrimination into most cases.. idk how people can still deny this.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you’re in a more stable position now. Can I ask you what happened w the interview? Did u end up spending the night in jail or what happened??
2 days after murder. Email: "Hey, I know someone who would be capable of doing that who worked with her at whirlpool."
Let's just ignore that one...
Hmm, single mother, black, lives nearby. WEED SMELL COMPLAINT!? THIS MUST BE IT! YES YES. IM A GENIUS!
Obviously, not all people with antisocial personality disorders are murderers or have malicious intents, but him having ASPD was a huge factor. He's not a murderer because he has anti-social personality disorder, his supposed personality disorder and his upbringing led him to be that person. Nature and nurture both play a role.
People who don't feel empathy can still understand compassion. They just can't place themselves in other people's shoes, but they know the concept of it, they objectively know right from wrong, and can learn to predict the outcome of their actions before acting out on any malicious intent.
It's not like their ASPD brain makes them inherently murder people lol.
exactly it's a very huge factor infact most killers that don't have a capacity for empathy are diagnosed with this disorder. Ofc, there are other factors too but not having empathy is unsurprisingly one of the biggest if not the biggest factor imo which is why people diagnosed with this need mental health support.
i think this was chatters point - “he’s not a murderer because he has ASPD” but that it could still be a factor, sure. i think they were just making sure the blame stayed on the murderer, and not shifted to ASPD.
@@ambatuBUHSURK pretty sure their point was “sociopaths aren’t always bad people, stop using their disorder as an excuse for why they killed people, most ASPD folks would never do that.”
Am I missing the part where he was actually diagnosed with APD and not armchair psycologied into it for no real reason (somewhat genuinely asking, after the first half of his weird unwarranted diagnosis I clicked off and came to hasan, so idk if he was later actually diagnosed in jail or smthn)
@Rosalie not disagreeing with that, just wanted to add on
All the time the detective spent harassing an innocent woman and her fuckbuddies could have been spent riding the Gemini at Cedar Point.
They got the honest trailers dude to hype up this trailer 😂😂
Mildly unfortunate how much the voice was spoiled
Sunnyv2 ass dramatic voice lmao
@@michaelheckman3474gay-uhhhhhhhhh
@@BlackZynfyndel exactly the soundbite I was thinking of when I made my comment lmao
Imagine being the kid and years later you watch hasan piker reacting to your mothers murder and chat is making jokes about you murdering her as a 5 yr old... sometimes i feel like we are way too far gone.
Imagine dragon deez nuts across your face 🤓
Fax chat ppl be weird and no real leftists
The terminally online
I like hasan and his content, but sometimes I feel like he's a real asshole when it comes to sensitive topics/issues. I know he is not a bad person, but sometimes he seems like one
People cope with shit differently.
Some people feel the need to make jokes to lighten a mood.
Others feel the need to establish a moral high ground so that they can replace their discomfort with condescension.
Different strokes for different folks.
How tf do you not track the phones gps coordinates until 2 years later...
54:39 - Funny moment when chat knew Anne was home because of the flies😂🪰
She do be opening windows lmao
Poor Keyona. This is so unfair and ridiculous :(
Every time I hear this narrator I expect a “this is a certified good classic” or “trap-a-holics” thrown in there
Explore With Us really has this market on lock. Plus, all of the videos that don't have this guy as the voice have way less views.
imho matt orchard and jcs are way better
he literally sounds like those late night true crime tv shows from back in the 2000s
@@glugtrop2010 get a job
@@glugtrop2010 wow ur so edgy and and not like the other middle schoolers, keep yourself safe
Breonna Taylor's shooter aka the officer is hired as a sheriff's deputy again. Really gives you hope for the future.
bro i almost passed out at the cuticles part... rip heather... 💔💔
This could have been the plot to Barbarian with how unhinged everything became towards the end.
This reminds me of the west Memphis three murders where Jerry Driver preemptively zeroed in on Damien Echols and then shoehorned him into the case. Literally stalked him and by doing that totally destroyed the hope of ever getting it solved.
So triggered by this case, I had an ex just like this and people never take it seriously until something happens. It’s insane. All the red flags and they still get the benefit of the doubt.
hey can I ask you something?
im 18 okay? I have a long distance bf who keeps mentioning lots of detailed fantasies about physically abusing me,
the details were very se----x related
like once we'll meet or get married
and he keeps on saying horrible things and he doesnt stop until I cry and then he feels sasticfiction
and also i tried to break up with him but im too afraid to tell him because i sent things to him that if my family knew I'd be dead in a moment -not kidding-
im so afraid after watching this
cuz i know he is capable of doing much worse to me
he makes me tell him stories which latterly fucked my mental health since i said them - like saying I was raped by group of Syrian army, or israelis and I would cry he wouldnt care until I say it exactly this " I got raped because im a syrian bitch" - , like I'd say anything he wants and I dont know how to get out of this because im honestly so scared of dying between his hands or my family's
keep in mind Ive been in this for about two years now and he never once toke no as an answer, Im sure he would send my picture to my family if I did anything otherwise than what he wants
this is the first time I've ever write this no one know no one just any one who's reading rn i guess
I just want it to stop without me dying im so afraid
english isnt my first langauge sorry if you cant understand me
please respond
I cant keep living in this nightmare, he knows everything about me and where my house is
I dont go out side at all, my family dont let me
but the next year I will have to go to university and if he ever had a chance to stay with me alone, he would 100% do something bad
let alone him being capable of hitting me to death while I wont be able to do anything
I know for a fact he has a gun too
i cant tell no one im afraid the fear ruined me as a person for two years
@@itsmeayat0-045don't tell him where you're going to university, if he does reveal anything to your parents chances are he's going to prison for distributing CP, assuming you're talking about pictures.
If he shares stuff with your parents just tell them it's AI generated and he was threatening you, and you thought it would save them from shame to keep it hidden.
Might not work but it's worth a try.
Maybe see if you can get your parents to move with the excuse of being closer to the university?
Explain what AI generated images are first and maybe you can just tell them this guy has been blackmailing you with AI generated images for the whole time and get them to protect you.
If none of that works, try to slowly fade out of his life. Rarely reply to messages, try to make him bored.
When you leave the house try not to go out without a friend with you.
From my experience with stalkers, the feeling of being watched or followed can be very real.
Stay safe. Good luck.
Wish I could offer better advice but just rely on the fact that your family probably doesn't understand AI that well and you can use it as an excuse for anything they would attack you for.
@@itsmeayat0-045holy fucking shit dude Im sorry youre going through that
Hasan has me addicted to true crime, but I can’t watch it without his reacts.
not the cop saying "if you ask for a lawyer that just tells me you have something to hide" when we literally have the 5th amendment saying theyre not allowed to hold it against you if you choose not to speak.... 💀💀
1:29:00 And you were STILLL friends with him after every horrific thing you just said?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Just remember, if a cop ever tells you "we can tie you to this investigation" repeat the line back to them.
There’s an important delineation that should be made when talking about ASPD and psychopathy. Psychopathy refers to a person with ASPD who does not feel empathy. Therefore, all psychopaths have ASPD, but not all people with ASPD are psychopaths. In fact, it is only a small percentage of people with ASPD who are psychopaths. Thus, the chatter who said that they have ASPD and do feel empathy could very well be truthful - that would just mean that they are not a psychopath.
chat calling out hasan's mom was so cute lmao
Can’t wait for the next video, *When the Narrator is the Killer*
hasan looks like a miami cop in the 80s here
😆😆😆
The actual murder sounds like my 6 year old when I asked if they took sweets from the kitchen without asking
How tf does Hasan not have bug screens on his windows?? Like that would solve all his fly problems
i didn’t realized that was why he’s always clapping randomly. who the fuck doesn’t have _bug screens??_ haha that’s insane.
maybe in LA everyone is just so used to air conditioning no one there has ever actually opened a window, so now when he does it he’s just completely unprepared for the consequences…
Nah I have bug screens too but they’re so thin that there’s ALWAYS small holes around the edge, plus small flies can fit through the screen. He prob does have them
Antisocial personality disorder is not the same as psychopathy. Not all people with Antisocial personality disorder are psychopaths.
But all psychopaths have antisocial personality disorder.
There is also no such a thing as a psychopath. It's a crime/court word to call someone evil, not a disorder. The "criteria" grabs pretty much everyone as a psychopath.
someone in chat said "harizzment" and I'll never be the same
if a cop is interrogating me and says "it is what it is" im leaving, like fam
IKR😂😂😂
Daniel didn't "hide his crimes" because he doesn't see them as crimes. He's sick and twisted and explains away raping women by saying they don't remember liking it. In his mind it's all a misunderstanding
killer got away for over 2 years and still kept the same cell phone. wtf
10 years... for a first offense drug charge? Kid diddlers get less... WTF?
KEYONA IS A REAL G!!! That officer is a real-life case of a human living with smooth brain syndrome.
Hope heathers family is ok. So sorry for what happened.
I just finished watching this exact Explore With Us video and now I get to watch it again with bonus Azan commentary. 😂
sometimes hasan has to understand although 9/10 chat is being complete morons, some chatters have something worthwhile to say. 1:21:04 having antisocial personality disorder (aka, as hassan points out, psychopathy) does not mean that person will murder someone. plenty of people live thier lives with this disorder and do not seriously harm or kill anyone. ASPD presents with irritability, impulsivity, deceitfulness, and may be quicker to aggression, along with a lack of empathy and regard for consequences. this results in a higher amount of arrests related to destruction of property, harassment, or even in some cases assault. not every person with ASPD is the same. sure, some people with ASPD are violent. chatter was only pointing out the way they always go “THE CRAZY MURDERER HAS ASPD” and ASPD gets blamed rather than the individual. y’know.. the murderer. love this quote from my textbook ~ it is important to remember individuals with mental illness are not automatically dangerous, and dangerous individuals are not automatically mentally ill”
~ stay safe! you are loved ❤
EDIT; Spelling/rewording
ps. love hasan, and how much he has grown over the years. cant wait to see where he goes (:
also sexual sadism disorder and sadistic personality disorder are real disorders that many serial killers have been demonstrated to have. This isn't the same as consensual sadomasochism which is a kink. The disorders only involve unwilling victims.
From Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism:
"The current ruling ontology denies any possibility of a social causation of mental illness. The chemico-biologization of mental illness is of course strictly commensurate with its depoliticization. Considering mental illness an individual chemico-biological problem has enormous benefits for capitalism. First, it reinforces Capital's drive towards atomistic
individualization (you are sick because of your brain chemistry). Second, it provides an enormously lucrative market in which multinational pharmaceutical companies can peddle their
pharmaceuticals (we can cure you with our SSRIs). It goes without saying that all mental illnesses are neurologically instantiated, but this says nothing about their causation. If it is
true, for instance, that depression is constituted by low serotonin levels, what still needs to be explained is why particular individuals have low levels of serotonin. This requires a social
and political explanation; and the task of repoliticizing mental illness is an urgent one if the left wants to challenge capitalist realism."
Yeah type B personality disorders (narcissism, antisocial, borderline) are widely misunderstood and have a terrible reputation. "Psychopathy" isn't even a thing anymore and our understanding and diagnostics have evolved since then. A problem is that research is often done on extreme cases which back then were violent criminals... and nowadays you only hear about extremes on social media too. The stigma that comes along with these diagnosis really sucks, I've had friends that were harassed over it... :/ On one side it's important to be open about it to change things but there's a lot of bad stuff that comes from it
@@idontcare9041 wow, what an eloquent comment. I have Borderline, and was diagnosed fairly recently considering I’ve been in all kinds of therapy since I was 10. I’m also a psychology student, so when a new Psych suggested I seemed to fit the criteria, I reacted negatively internally bc there is such a stigma, sadly even in the field of psychology. I was misdiagnosed as bi polar depressive my whole life.
I live in Australia and know of a similar case to leigh Anne's "suicide". This guy went missing for like 6 years before his skeleton was found. He has been shot in the back of the head with a rifle (about the same size as the one in Leigh Anne's case) and the empty bullet casing had been unloaded before being stashed, in a rockface, 10 meters from where the skeleton was found. The concluded that he probably shot himself, unloaded the casing, stashed the gun and crawled 10 meters away before dying. the case was never actually closed as a 'suicide' because of "unusual circumstances". There's backstory and such to the story but just that is unbelievable to me.
UA-cam with the 11/10 ad transition, right into a mosquito killer commercial while Hasan is swatting at flies.
What's crazy to me is that so many people who look and seem completely normal, like anybody else you see daily, can be such horrible not even people, absolutely deplorable scumbags. That's the scary part imo
For sure. Statistically speaking if you see a thousand people there'll always be some pretty dangerous ones in there. Now go somewhere public how many thousands of people will be at least in your vicinity?
@@idontcare9041 now I'm scared💀
The most dangerous ones at least are in plain sight. They all wear the same uniform, get paid to stalk and intimidate you while they carry deadly weapons and have the impunity to kill you for any real or imagined reason at any time. Terrifying.
I love me some freaky looking bastards cus of this. Can't hide their opinions cus everyone be bothering them for looking freaky unlike those one just says hi and bye too.
I’d never heard this case before but holy crap, the complete idiocy of the first detective is infuriating!! This case was like an open book omfg, they even got an email 2 days after the murder saying they knew info on one of her coworkers who they thought was connected, and the murderer was such an idiot he didn’t even try to hide his stalking and crime 🙄 well except for the new floors and weird cleaning equipment, which just makes him even more sus!! Poor heather man, at least they caught the guy in the end I guess. They also ruined several random, innocent peoples lives along the way, that poor girl who’s bd they locked up :(
...Police really said "How many Blacks we got in town again? 3? Okay they probably all did it like always, round 'em up! We're gonna get them this time!"
Lmao "murder aside, I would love to compliment this man's penmanship" 😂😂😂😂
Wait, the phone cell GPS records are not the first things that was checked?!?!?
Why was it cut off before it finished?
‘My man, emote a little less, you know what I mean?’ 💀💀💀
This is so weird being from Clyde and recognizing some of these names and faces
57:10
Black people ain't falling for the police rapport building... in general we know better than to trust police
The narrator's vocal fry is killing me.
It gives me a sore throat
as someone whos shy, social insecure his whole life, it only made me more compassionate since i know what it feels like, i give my sis, my friends and anyone who needs it all the love and support
If this cop is supposed to be an example of what a cop is like , is it any wonder people distrust them so much?
I wish this kind of video would be done about Billings the amount of things they sweep under a rug
1:11:30 "White Supremacy ultimately ends up harming White people regularly." THANK 👏 YOU 👏
~ Toxic/Bigoted systems of oppression also harm the perceived oppressor group. In less obvious ways. Such as the biases that happened in this case.
~ Not to mention that regular Euro Americans who make average incomes are SOLD the idea of their supremacy in order to further separate each other from class unity with people of other ethnicities.
1:20:00 the person wasn't saying that he was just antisocial. They were saying that having antisocial personality disorder does not automatically mean that person is evil or has murder on the mind or whatever.
Don't tell me how much Baklava I can eat in one sitting. Mmmmmm Baklava. .
Maggie’s impression of you was spot on 😂.
I can't tell why, but this reminds me of the brave Manny Pardo and his quest to defeat the villainous Miami Mutilator.
Keyona’s boyfriend got TEN YEARS FOR A FIRST OFFENSE FOR DRUGS???
Side note: ASPD is a spectrum, the terms psychopath and sociopath are only applied to people who meet specific criteria at an extreme end of the spectrum. Meaning people diagnosed with ASPD are NOT automatically sociopaths or psychopaths, but (clinically diagnosed) psychopaths and sociopaths are automatically also diagnosed with ASPD on an extreme end of the spectrum.
There has been pretty positive results of early intervention and therapy helping kids and young people with ASPD with learning empathy. But unfortunately ASPD statistics will never be completely accurate, because when you do get to that extreme end of the spectrum, those people refuse to believe there’s anything wrong with them and they would never let themselves be psychoanalysed 🙃
Im waiting for the Analog Horror genre to come to Police Interrogation Style Video
Immediately after seeing the detective: “arrest this man”
“Not getting in trouble” isn’t the qualification for good/bad performance…
“Getting confessions whether they are true/false” is the qualification
Too true detectives don’t give that much of a shit ! They still go home and sleep comfortably at night
Where is the full vod ?? It cuts off right as we are finally getting closure
Twitch
Why is this police department so bad?!?!?
1:20:54 no this chatter is right. Antisocial Personality Disorder in a clinical sense is not a 1:1 (or even close) to the colloquial understanding of a “sociopath”. APD is honestly one of those bullshit Foucault ass disorders that exist more as a tool of the state than anything. I almost got diagnosed with it bc I told my counselor I stole a juice from my college library’s cafe and didnt feel bad about it. At it’s core all antisocial personality disorder means is that you don’t prescribe to the morality of the state. So if you don’t have any moral qualms about petty shoplifting, graffiti, skating in skate-free zones, or you get into fights at school, skip school etc, that’s _more_ than enough to be diagnosed. There are a ton of people with antisocial diagnoses that are no different than any of your “troubled youth” rebellious friends as kids. No doubt Brace Belden would’ve qualified for a diagnosis in his teens and I wouldn’t be surprised if he still does. It’s impossible to really get into in a youtube comment but chatter was right for once. The whole pop-psych industry around “the dark triad” etc is all bullshit fear mongering. It gives consumers something to have fun being afraid of at the expense of real people’s humanity. What we understand as sociopathy/psychopathy probably should have it’s own diagnostic criteria tbh. But right now the term is so useless it can’t differentiate from your anarchist friend that protests police brutality and does graffiti and a serial rapist.
Damn it’s kinda disheartening seeing Hasan and so many chatters confidently wrong about this. I guess it’s a good thing bc it means most of them never had a brush in with the law.
and before somebody tells me what the exact definition on APD is. I know… thats why I said it’s way too complex to get into in a youtube comment. The reality is, _in practice_ all APD really means is that the person diagnosed with it doesn’t have moral objections with breaking societal rules - and interpreting what societal rules are serious enough to warrant that diagnosis are totally up to the clinicians discretion. If you tell your psychiatrist you don’t think it’s wrong to like… write graffiti that is enough for them to diagnose you.
1:24:17 one of the reasons antisocial personality disorder is so overrepresented in prison is specifically because by the definitional nature of the disorder: committing a crime without remorse means you fit the criteria for APD. If you sold weed and dont feel bad about doing so. You can get diagnosed. The disorder is fundamentally inseparable from the ideology of the state which prescribes it.
I thought it was more of a lack of empathy thing, and the crimes are somewhat a result of that. Like if one has no empathy for other people, they would not feel bad about robbing or whatever it is. That being the case, APD persons can still feel love, form strong relationships, and value human life, they just do it in a different, more conscious way than neuro typical people.
And this is coming from a Psych student who has borderline personality disorder, and a brother with APD.
I've already binged EWU so now I get to watch with Hasans input 😅
The narrator of the video has the perfect voice for true crime.
Chat thinking antisocial disorder means being anti social is so frustrating 😅
Hasan was just assuming that was what the chatter meant lmfao
Hasan with a mustache is next level hot 🥵
real like omg
real
Narrator: "the woman had been scalped"
Audience: "yeah but papi Has tho 🥵🥵🥵".
It’s very distracting, but I’m not complaining 🤭
Murder: is a murderer and a bad person
Ytbr: so anyway here’s my disorder diagnosis for no reason
What on earth was the point ,I’m like I’m used to it but in this video it was just extra out of nowhere and wasn’t even a good try
Bonus rant topic: criminal psychoanalysts somehow diagnose like 70% of criminals with ASPD. Going by the statistics of prison pop, most likely every single person I've ever known has ASPD, as they've broken some dumb law that carries a short sentence and don't care about it.
Also, skipping school= watch this kid, prob a psycho.
"When the detective is a criminal" so like always.
Roger Dodger.
Omg it was 4:21 am for me when Hasan ran the ad at 4:21pm in the vid lol
Ohio might as well be called North Kentucky.
Oh no, not the Samsung Galaxy cell phone!
I remember hearing about this case on TV as I don’t live far from Ohio, but I never knew all the details
God I love middle eastern Americans. Yallah habibi hope this guy never takes a break lol
This is so crazy. I watch a video… and think I should send it so Hasan can react… a few days later… lol
This one is so crazy! U keep hearing and the story doesn’t stop here lol
random tangent on "an innocent person is likely to become a bit hostile" that was me when i gave birth and the nurses were accusing me of being an opioid user, not letting me breastfeed my daughter. i was firm, i was a >bit< hostile, and they still were talking about "your baby has withdrawals." come to find out that it was poppy seeds that gave me a positive result lmao. at the time i was like "is my frustration making me look guilty?" apparently not, but the nurses certainly didnt believe me, and also, now i know they treat addicts like shit so theres that
The voice sounds like ghost face from scream 😂
People with ASD can feel everything - in fact they feel it even more then the Noirotypicall ppl! They are not psychopaths or narcissists (though a person with ASD can have a borderline or any other neurological disorder). I am mother of 2 children with ASD.
This dudes voice is so fitting to the subjects he covers. Not Hasan but the dude we are watching with Hasan.
Talk about a whirlwind relationship
59:25 the way his voice can’t be normal….jail. Straight to jail.
YOOOOOO
That’s my hometown dawg!
Thanks!