OK, let me get this straight. OP's sister got assaulted by one of OP's cousin resulting in her mind getting fucked for life and instead of taking her to therapy and disciplining her, they just let her get away anything, including defending her child predator bf and they want OP to reconcile with them after the years of blatant favoritism so they can have some form of contact with his son, even though they are harboring a child predator in their home. Am I getting that right? Honestly, OP should just stay as far away from them as possible, not only for his mental health but also his child's safety.
Nope. The wife desperately needs an English tutor because she clearly didn't understands the language she spoken everyday. The parents clearly never apologize and the wife didn't understand that even with written proof.
10 bucks says the wife will try and pull an "I know better for you than you do" move and try and set up a meet between OP and OP's parents without OP's consent at some point.
If reconciliation could lead to any greater chance of exposure to a chomo, that's gonna be a hard pass, chief. At that point, it's not even about the parents. It's about protecting your child
So just to be clear, the parents sided with a predator to please their daughter? F that. If they willing to side with a predator, then they are also willing to protect him. Also... Anyone else have a feeling that the patents didn't get their daughter the actual help she needs to deal with the trauma?? Cause all I got from the back story, is then they just decided to spoil her rather than send her into therapy. OP should be thinking about keeping his child far away from that family, cause who knows what the BiL will do if he is alone with the kid. The fact he went to jail for 4 years, tells me he did alot more than just downloaded that stuff by "Accident"
Not gonna lie, if the wife is having THAT much trouble understanding why OP wants to stay away from his parents, I wouldn't be surprised if she tries to set up a meet and reconciliation between OP and his parents without OP's approval.
The wife needs to understand that these grandparents aren't the type she should want around her son, they've favoured op's sister constantly, never put her husband op first, and even if op gave them the chance there's no guarantee they'd even cut the guy out of their lives, they'd lie and keep the guy elsewhere just to later introduce him to op's son, the mom, dad, sister and the convicted nonce are too dangerous to be anywhere near the son. Sometimes it's better off if a kid doesn't have a particular set of grandparents if the grandparents happen to be exactly like op's parents. Hopefully when the kid asks where his grandparents(op's parents) are op and wife have told him, they're very bad people who associated and sided with an even worse person and that's why they're binned.
you got a single damned job to do and that's protect your child from even the hint of such harm, maybe your parents are into that there are families who allow other family to do whatever. was this cousin ever charged with your sister's attack? no then that's what risk your child is facing DON'T LET THEM DO IT.
I’d simply reply to all that his sisters SA greatly impacted his childhood, only to have her grow up and fall for a pedo. After knowing full well the danger and harm that it does to kids and families, they enabled the sister to remain with a man like that. They supported her, and by extension-him. I’d would say that clearly they can’t be trusted to do the right thing where kids are concerned because they enable the behavior. And that because they can’t be trusted to keep kids safe from predators-they are clearly unfit to be near a child. That means his own kids too. His wife needs her head examined if she thinks it’s a good idea to hand her kid over to people like that. She’s not winning a Darwin Award for that, let alone a Mother of the Year award.
OP should ask his wife "wiil u forgive yourself if the child predator did something unthinkable to our son enabled by my parents to "connect with the family""
So the sister was SA by a cousin and her husband was discovered to have lewd child pictures his computer and was caught by the police and the parents had some form of meltdown and choose to ignore their daughter being a SA victim in younger age and help a child predator to remain by their daughter's side. One gotta love the "logic" in some people's head that are so far up in the clouds that you can't begin to comprehend their thought process in this kind of scenarios, knowing full well that your child have been a victim of SA and yet you allow a predator of lewd content be near your child!! I really hope that OP be able to get his wife to understand that his parents are not sorry for hurting their son but sorry for him feeling hurt
@@gehtdichnixan8561 Considering that they failed their daughter with how they handled her SA incident by not taking her to a therapy to help her to overcome the trauma straight away and instead choose to give her everything she ever wanted even go as far as dropping everything the moment she throwed a tantrum be it a genuine one because of the trauma or a less genuine one later on because at that point she was used to parents giving her all the attention and thus couldn't handle her brother being given some attention. I feel like both OP and his sister was victims here, the sister because of SA (by the cousin) and neglection by the parents (who didn't take her to therapy until years later) and OP because of neglection and abandonment by their parents!! I really hope that OP will be able to make his wife see reason of what kind of POS his parents truly are and that she wont (god forbid) go behind his back and present their son to the parents.
"Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the police have to prove that the sister's boyfriend purposely downloaded that content? It’s not uncommon for people who upload pirated media and tamper with the files in harmful ways. Also, don’t the police have to clearly show that the file is obviously illegal?"
@@Levithos I'm asking that because sometimes when you download stuff off the internet sometimes you can download extra stuff that you were not trying to download it A good example is u know how some files have malware but you're not trying to download malware
pure volume of that shit can work as prof on its own and i can almost guaranti that law enforcment had techs go thru every digital media object thay could get ther hands on.
So, unless he told his Aunt where he was moving and she told his parents, how did they learn WHERE he was moving? They only saw a For Sale sign, they couldn'tve known where hw was going
I had essentially no relationship with my grandparents and I ended up fine. I was satisfied with my parents, siblings’, and friends’ love. I don’t understand why people think grandparents are SO crucial to a child’s development.
So why has no one in this story talked about how his parents took the side of a pdf file to placate his sister, who was harmed by a pdf file? If they tolerate noncery, how are they going to protect their grandkids from it? Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if the sister's abuse resulted from their poor decisions as well.
“We are sorry you got hurt.” is not an apology, it is (probably false) sympathy. Like “I’m sorry for loss.” The fact that OP’s parents were driving by his home, for years, is deeply concerning. When OP puts up the security cameras in the new place, they should set it up to capture pictures of every car that goes by, including all passengers, and the license plates. Knowing that a not-neighbor from hours away keeps driving by could be valuable evidence in court some day.
OP should NEVER reconect with his parents, and also OP's wife should stop worrying about appearances and worry more about the fact that she didn't consider HER SON could be in danger because of the type of people OP's parents keep close and support and also remember everything they did to OP.
Tell your wife that if you were to reconcile there's nothing to stop a child predator from getting remotely close to your son. Also is the wife dumb? "Oh how can you not get over that they chose a child predator over you?"
Ok ok to be fair......LIMEWIRE was some sketchy shit. You didnt know 100% if you were downloading music or a virus or something worse, as soon as i heard "Lime Wire" i was like (oooooh ok) and back in those days the police DIDNT take into account how sketchy it was, it was assumed if you got it you were looking for it. Virus or anythig else. Not saying the BF wasnt a chomo but damn imagine if he was just trying to get a ripped copy of the raid or some linkin park. 😅
OK, let me get this straight. OP's sister got assaulted by one of OP's cousin resulting in her mind getting fucked for life and instead of taking her to therapy and disciplining her, they just let her get away anything, including defending her child predator bf and they want OP to reconcile with them after the years of blatant favoritism so they can have some form of contact with his son, even though they are harboring a child predator in their home. Am I getting that right?
Honestly, OP should just stay as far away from them as possible, not only for his mental health but also his child's safety.
Yeah no, the wife needs to get with the program
There's no 'struggling to see the point of view' THEY PICKED A PREDATOR OVER THEIR OWN KID!
Nope. The wife desperately needs an English tutor because she clearly didn't understands the language she spoken everyday. The parents clearly never apologize and the wife didn't understand that even with written proof.
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10 bucks says the wife will try and pull an "I know better for you than you do" move and try and set up a meet between OP and OP's parents without OP's consent at some point.
If reconciliation could lead to any greater chance of exposure to a chomo, that's gonna be a hard pass, chief. At that point, it's not even about the parents. It's about protecting your child
So just to be clear, the parents sided with a predator to please their daughter? F that.
If they willing to side with a predator, then they are also willing to protect him. Also... Anyone else have a feeling that the patents didn't get their daughter the actual help she needs to deal with the trauma??
Cause all I got from the back story, is then they just decided to spoil her rather than send her into therapy. OP should be thinking about keeping his child far away from that family, cause who knows what the BiL will do if he is alone with the kid.
The fact he went to jail for 4 years, tells me he did alot more than just downloaded that stuff by "Accident"
The wife seems pretty dense
I'm pretty sure she didn't even understand English at this point. Sheltered life I guess.
@@l-l-l-l-l-l-lThis is what happens when those who have a loving family have a hard time understanding toxic family.
Not gonna lie, if the wife is having THAT much trouble understanding why OP wants to stay away from his parents, I wouldn't be surprised if she tries to set up a meet and reconciliation between OP and his parents without OP's approval.
The wife needs to understand that these grandparents aren't the type she should want around her son, they've favoured op's sister constantly, never put her husband op first, and even if op gave them the chance there's no guarantee they'd even cut the guy out of their lives, they'd lie and keep the guy elsewhere just to later introduce him to op's son, the mom, dad, sister and the convicted nonce are too dangerous to be anywhere near the son.
Sometimes it's better off if a kid doesn't have a particular set of grandparents if the grandparents happen to be exactly like op's parents.
Hopefully when the kid asks where his grandparents(op's parents) are op and wife have told him, they're very bad people who associated and sided with an even worse person and that's why they're binned.
The Real problem is his parents don't care about him & their Perspectives of Good & Bad are twisted... They're totally Unreliable.
you got a single damned job to do and that's protect your child from even the hint of such harm, maybe your parents are into that there are families who allow other family to do whatever. was this cousin ever charged with your sister's attack? no then that's what risk your child is facing DON'T LET THEM DO IT.
The fact that OP even considered allowing pedo sympathizers near his child is horrifying. Lil bro is cooked from day one.
I’d simply reply to all that his sisters SA greatly impacted his childhood, only to have her grow up and fall for a pedo. After knowing full well the danger and harm that it does to kids and families, they enabled the sister to remain with a man like that. They supported her, and by extension-him. I’d would say that clearly they can’t be trusted to do the right thing where kids are concerned because they enable the behavior. And that because they can’t be trusted to keep kids safe from predators-they are clearly unfit to be near a child. That means his own kids too. His wife needs her head examined if she thinks it’s a good idea to hand her kid over to people like that. She’s not winning a Darwin Award for that, let alone a Mother of the Year award.
OP should ask his wife "wiil u forgive yourself if the child predator did something unthinkable to our son enabled by my parents to "connect with the family""
So the sister was SA by a cousin and her husband was discovered to have lewd child pictures his computer and was caught by the police and the parents had some form of meltdown and choose to ignore their daughter being a SA victim in younger age and help a child predator to remain by their daughter's side.
One gotta love the "logic" in some people's head that are so far up in the clouds that you can't begin to comprehend their thought process in this kind of scenarios, knowing full well that your child have been a victim of SA and yet you allow a predator of lewd content be near your child!!
I really hope that OP be able to get his wife to understand that his parents are not sorry for hurting their son but sorry for him feeling hurt
Not exactly so. The sister "wanted" to stay by that creep's side, and the parents would then support him due to her wishes.
@@gehtdichnixan8561 Considering that they failed their daughter with how they handled her SA incident by not taking her to a therapy to help her to overcome the trauma straight away and instead choose to give her everything she ever wanted even go as far as dropping everything the moment she throwed a tantrum be it a genuine one because of the trauma or a less genuine one later on because at that point she was used to parents giving her all the attention and thus couldn't handle her brother being given some attention.
I feel like both OP and his sister was victims here, the sister because of SA (by the cousin) and neglection by the parents (who didn't take her to therapy until years later) and OP because of neglection and abandonment by their parents!!
I really hope that OP will be able to make his wife see reason of what kind of POS his parents truly are and that she wont (god forbid) go behind his back and present their son to the parents.
"Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the police have to prove that the sister's boyfriend purposely downloaded that content? It’s not uncommon for people who upload pirated media and tamper with the files in harmful ways. Also, don’t the police have to clearly show that the file is obviously illegal?"
It was a sting operation, so the boyfriend had to purposely search for that.
And CP is illegal in most countries, so why would they have to prove that it was illegal?
@@Levithos
I'm asking that because sometimes when you download stuff off the internet sometimes you can download extra stuff that you were not trying to download it A good example is u know how some files have malware but you're not trying to download malware
Thats both true in the technical sense. But rules generally dont apply to police once they smell blood in the water.
pure volume of that shit can work as prof on its own and i can almost guaranti that law enforcment had techs go thru every digital media object thay could get ther hands on.
I'm really mad at his wife... LADY WTFFF
I honestly would not be able to trust the parents not to bring the grandson around the sister's husband (when he gets out of jail). Stay away.
So, unless he told his Aunt where he was moving and she told his parents, how did they learn WHERE he was moving? They only saw a For Sale sign, they couldn'tve known where hw was going
I had essentially no relationship with my grandparents and I ended up fine. I was satisfied with my parents, siblings’, and friends’ love. I don’t understand why people think grandparents are SO crucial to a child’s development.
Child adultery? That ... makes it sound consensual. I you're going to do a word replacement for molester, use a better euphemism like child destroyer.
So why has no one in this story talked about how his parents took the side of a pdf file to placate his sister, who was harmed by a pdf file? If they tolerate noncery, how are they going to protect their grandkids from it? Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if the sister's abuse resulted from their poor decisions as well.
“We are sorry you got hurt.” is not an apology, it is (probably false) sympathy. Like “I’m sorry for loss.”
The fact that OP’s parents were driving by his home, for years, is deeply concerning. When OP puts up the security cameras in the new place, they should set it up to capture pictures of every car that goes by, including all passengers, and the license plates. Knowing that a not-neighbor from hours away keeps driving by could be valuable evidence in court some day.
OP should NEVER reconect with his parents, and also OP's wife should stop worrying about appearances and worry more about the fact that she didn't consider HER SON could be in danger because of the type of people OP's parents keep close and support and also remember everything they did to OP.
Tell your wife that if you were to reconcile there's nothing to stop a child predator from getting remotely close to your son. Also is the wife dumb? "Oh how can you not get over that they chose a child predator over you?"
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The boyfriend is a nonce! Just ask your wife "do you seriously want nonce/ child predator near our child?!"
Ok ok to be fair......LIMEWIRE was some sketchy shit. You didnt know 100% if you were downloading music or a virus or something worse, as soon as i heard "Lime Wire" i was like (oooooh ok) and back in those days the police DIDNT take into account how sketchy it was, it was assumed if you got it you were looking for it. Virus or anythig else. Not saying the BF wasnt a chomo but damn imagine if he was just trying to get a ripped copy of the raid or some linkin park. 😅
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