Kyoto to Tokyo via Controversial New Shinkansen Route
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- The Hokuriku Shinkansen line was extended and opened between Tsuruga and Kanazawa Japan in March 2024. I'm taking this line from Kyoto back to Tokyo.
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Finding YT videos with only the ambient noise and no added audio is becoming increasingly rare these days. Love hearing the sounds of places as well as the views. This was very enjoyable.
Cheers.
About tickets on this trip
Basic fare ticket from Kyoto to Tokyo via Kanazawa: 10,010 JPY / 67 USD
Super express ticket (GranClass with service) from Tsuruga to Tokyo: 23,460 JPY / 156 USD
Limited express ticket from Kyoto to Tsuruga: 1,730 JPY / 11.50 USD
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Seems like you save about 1600 JPY or about $10 USD taking the route through Kanazawa, basic Shinkansen ticket plus the Thunderbird. The Thunderbird was a very nice train. Took it from Kanazawa to Osaka last year. I assume that since part of the journey is now on the Shinkansen, the fare between Osaka and Kanazawa has increased, in addition to probably increasing the time it takes because of the transfer. When’s the Tsuruga to Shin-Osaka leg supposed to be completed?
The one thing from train travelling in Japan that I don't miss is the convoluted ways you have to get different train tickets for different sectors. Everything else is great!
Actually, at the ticket office, the staff sorted out all these issues for you. All you need to do is just place all the (related) tickets at the gate.
@@ColinGallagher I must say the system is more logical than the german one, where you can pay for the same ICE ride from Hamburg to Munich between 29 to 180 Euro, depending on when you book, how much seats are still available etc.
I feel bad for all the people that were used to Thunderbird. While I think that the Shinkansen is overall positive, it should have been finished to Kyoto and then opened. With this for years people will be stuck with this hybrid system that makes no sense and takes the same time if you count the train switching.
surreal experience. the countryside, the rail servicer, the packaged sushi meal. little disruptions or hassles make you realise that after all you are in a normal inhabited planet of humans. amazing video as usual.
Travelling with shinkansen is always a cool experience for me, even though i only ride it for once when i was a university student in japan (Bought regular seat, green one is quite expensive for a student like me). It is fast but sometimes packed with peoples. I prefer traveling by bus to be honest. It does take a lot of time (around 6-8 hours, osaka to tokyo) but we can enjoy the scenery of Japanese highway (because i like it) and stopping at service points is also fun thing to enjoy.
Thank you for another enjoyable video. I have just had my 2 year anniversary of watching your videos. I always enjoying your content, it's relaxing and informative and will help me plan a trip to Japan in the future.
That train is nicer than any house I've ever stayed in 😮
Thanks for the video. I am traveling from Osaka to Kanazawa via Tsuruga soon so it is good to know what to expect.
Thank you so much STJ ❤for another great video. I never thought of visiting Japan, but now I’m rethinking my thinking 🤔 😅❤
Thank you for taking us along :) Enjoyed it, greatly:)
Thanks, STJ! Loved the journey! ❤
Sitting here after a long day at work and your traveling videos are always a calming experience.
Soooo excited to watch this new one later tonight! Arigato, STJ-san!
Very nice video. I lived in Sapporo for 15 years, and I loved it. Currently I am living in Malta where I was born. Here we have busses for public transport, traffic jams everywhere and everyday 😢. Construction on dirty streets. Now watching this video of prestine streets, beautiful trains and well behaved people, makes me want to go back to Japan. You guys don't know how lucky you are living in a clean and amazing country, with first class transportation , excellent customer service, and fantastic food. Ciao from tiny Malta 😊. Oh, and my student Yurie Chan is from Fukui.
Always a pleasure to watch this channel. Boy, that icecream was sure hard!
Good video. Interesting. I always look forward to your new videos. Thanks for sharing.
I just found you a few days back and I really enjoy your journeys
That music on the first shinkansen was actually kinda cool. I thought you were about to end up in an anime opening.
That wasn't a shinkansen. It's Thunderbird, a limited express Train. It previously went from Osaka to Kanazawa but now only Osaka to Tsuruga :(
Thank you for sharing your adventures with us. I always look forward to them!
21:00: Nice Meniscus!
Looking forward to a food video, I love those.
Always lovely videos. Really appreciate the lack of background music, talk-over or selfie. Classy and understated.
I very much would love to visit Japan.
The thought of going somewhere that is clean as far as the eye can see....
You could start a grass-roots cleaning association in your own country. Or just start yourself, go to your local city council, and ask them if they will help you set it up.
japan tourisim really needs to hire you god your videos are great and give the best ideas
Very interesting, thank you. Am looking to do this to get to Kanazawa early on my trip. I wanted something simple :(
This video arrived perfectly! Was planning to do the Hokuriku arch for my trip this year.. was gonna go Tokyo - Osaka - Kanazawa then Tokyo via the Hokuriku Shinkansen + Thunderbird didn't know they have changed the route
I rode the Thunderbird from Kyoto to Kanazawa last March 2024. However, I did take a day trip from Kanazawa to Fukui(round-trip) and was wondering why the Hokuriku Shinkansen was an option. I guess the extension explains that. Love and miss Japan already 😍
Wonderful than you for posting
Did the trip recently. I loved it but you may want to consider a pit stop along the way. On the way to Osaka, I spent the night in Kanazawa (and recommend it over Kyoto), before proceeding to Osaka the following day.
On the way back however, I had scheduled not one but 2 meetups with friends and had to take this exact route back to Yokohama non-stop. Be aware that it’s 3 different transfers in the AM (Thunderbird to Tsuruga, Tsuruga to local Shinkansen to Kanazawa, then one Express Shinkansen train from Kanazawa back to Tokyo), and the transfer windows are as little as 10 min. It took 5hr 35min on the way back, plus the 30 min ride to Yokohama after Tokyo arrival. Suffice to say, unless you’re dead set on the Hokuriku Arch pass to get between Tokyo and Osaka (the pass will paid for itself after day 2), or you are able to squeeze an overnight stay in Nagano, Toyama, and Kanazawa, stick to Tōkaidō Shinkansen.
Six nonstop hours with rushed points inbetween sounds brutal. Makes sleeping at an airport without a proper pillow seem easy.
I miss japan so much
"I miss Japan" is a phrase my friends and I routinely say
Woah!! I remember learning abt that station when it was being built in my Japanese Class in school!
I actually just took this exact route when I was in Japan a few weeks ago! I took a couple days trip up to Toyama and Kanazawa and then back to Tokyo. The journey was extremely simple and I actually really liked Toyama station. Plus the views of the mountains on the way back to Tokyo were amazing!
I’m so jealous! Even though I’m only 100 miles from NYC it can take 3 hours to get there on commuter trains. The “high speed” Acela averages about 40 mph in my state. Thank you for sharing your trip with me!🙃
Feels like the interior of the NCC-1701D Enterprise from Star Trek , truly beautiful trains inside and out.
A very nice route through the mountains. I had to take it once last year, when there were huge delays due to fire on the Tokaido line.
I made the transfer in Tsuruga the other way around just a few days ago and did not think it was a hassle. Certainly, it can be a bit crowded at the escalator, but that most likely was also the case in Kanazawa before.
It is a shame that the local train service had to suffer because of this train, and I think that that in itself is the bigger complaint. For anyone in between Kanazawa and Tsuruga, it has now become more difficult and often either slower or more expensive to travel towards Kyoto/Osaka compared to before the extension, and it will be even worse when the line is ultimately extended all the way to those cities.
Love your videos.
I grew up with Dean & Deluca as a high-end deli with the most expensive cup of coffee in NYC ...always amazes me to see it has cornered the Western Menu for Shinkansen. And the coffee wasn't that great. But your videos are! Arigato, STJ!
Beautiful ❤
I would love to see videos about shinkansen that go from Tokyo to Hokkaido. Partly because I plan on doing that myself, and partly because I just enjoy watching these types of videos.
Thank you for this great video! I rode the Thunderbird from Kanazawa to Kyoto last year. It was really fast and comfortable. Does it still go all the way to Kanazawa? I don't believe that having to change trains in between really improves the journey.
That was such a nice trip, the seats looked very comfortable
Looks at his food, "Burdock...something?" 😁😁😁
I bet they'll update that station. Thank you for the video.
I took this trip from Osaka to Kanazawa March 28th.
Your Thunderbird was delayed by 8 mins im assuming because of fog.
We only had a 12 min transfer so it was 4 mins. There were plenty of staff to directed us and help people who needed assistance and of course they held the Shinkansen for us to arrive.
Very nice trip up to Kanazawa Kanazawa
The loss of the Thunderbird to force people onto the Shinkansen is hugely disappointing. I've only taken the Thunderbird all the way to Kanazawa once, last year. The only loss of service worse from my own personal perspective was the discontinuing of the Limited Express Kamome between Fukuoka and Nagasaki.
I rode it in 2016, but only from Kanazawa to Nagano. Two nights stopped in Toyama in between. The trains had plugs for charging, which I remember was missing in the JR West Sakura and Kodama shinkansen trains
Kyoto Station is, to me, mind-boggling. My first visit to Kyoto was in December of 1983 and, due to miscommunication, I spent several hours waiting to meet my girlfriend. I had arrived at Narita the night before and, since my plane arrived late, I missed the last Shinkansen from Tokyo and, instead, rode a sleeper train kakko ecki densha that took 14 hours and I didn’t sleep. So my first hours in Japan are burned in my memory. Back then, Kyoto Station was much smaller and there were no real indoor spaces. I remember being quite chilled by the time we finally connected.
Last October, I returned to Kyoto, this time on a Shinkansen and the size and crowds of people completely surprised me. It had been almost exactly 40 years between visits and I was quite shocked that my memory didn’t match very well with the reality of current-day Kyoto. It was, however, wonderful to be back.
As usual 👍👍👍
On my last trip to Japan we got the Hokuriku Arch Pass as an alternative to the national JR pass and stayed in Kanazawa. Nice little city. We took the Thunderbird Express for a day trip to Kyoto (covered by the Arch Pass). We accidentally got on the non-express train though and stopped in Fukui to change train. We took pictures of the dinosaur animatronics out fronts (getting to the dino museum is kinda stupid complicated for a major attraction?). On the way back the Thunderbird Express only stopped in Fukui before getting back to Kanazawa. I forgot to try the curry at Kanazawa station :( Next time you are in Kanazawa you should try the Yukizuri pastries by Le Musée de H. It is this flaky pastry flavored with local plum wines! It's a good omiyage.
On the way to Kanazawa we spent a day in Nagano and I ate delicious toasted sesame pudding by the Zenkoji temple and we went for creamy tonkotsu ramen at a random place that was open mid afternoon. I was called Hakata Yattai.
I will be traveling from Tokyo to Kyoto in August. Is there anyway to book the GranClass online (in English)? Thank you for your videos they are so much fun!
I'll wait until the connection is complete. No Mount Fuji on this trip but the coastline seems decent
9:40 that is my favorite drink!! Lol couldnt get enough
Does this mean the Thunderbird no longer goes to Kanazawa? It's a great trip. GranClass looks so cool. Thank you!
No, it doesn’t. With the shinkansen now going all the way to Tsuruga, the Thunderbird will only travel between there and Osaka. Though I guess eventually, the shinkansen route will extend down to there as well.
Thank you.
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Thanks for your continuous support :)
I’ve always been under the impression that things are expensive in Japan. Your videos have proven this wrong. The tickets seem very reasonable, the food you get seems like an absolute deal compared to the cost of food when traveling in the USA. Also, the accommodations in the videos are far above what I would expect for the prices you pay. Great videos!
3-4 weeks holiday in japan from Melbourne Australia for a couple including airfare return from Melbourne , transport( Shinkansen , train , bus…) hotels 3-4 stars and food totally around 8000-10,000 aud ( 6500usd ) or less .
11:24 This sounds so good. I need a 8h version of this immediately
its very informative and nice video about trip. was wondring if i can help you edits your video and also make highly engaging shorts out of them.
❤❤ beautiful
I just love your videos
There is a noise when a train is going 300kph, and I love it!
I realised that from Tsuruga station, hokuriku shinkansen used similar announcement to Thunderbird...
One thing I really appreciate about Japan is that it feels comfortable at every instances. The attention to details and pursuit of beauty makes it possible to craft a tranquil experience for every one, not just tourists.
Great trip. Positive side is, Tsuruga can be accessed by Shinkansen but negative side the Thunderbird route going shorter than before. Can't imagine if this line is extended until Kyoto, how about the future of Thunderbird?
I just did this exact route, including Gran Class yesterday. Came off the shinmoji to Izumiotsu overnight ferry. Yes it is a little annoying to do the change at Tsuruga but you get longer in Gran Class!!! i did not have a Shinkansen ticket, just a limited Express ticket, so at Tsuruga i needed to buy a shinkansen ticket. I did not see the shinkansen/limited express machines near the Shinkansen transfer gates, so instead, exited the entire station to buy my shinkansen ticket. BIG Mistake!! It was quite a walk to and from the main station. I wish i'd seen the machines near the transfer
Similar thing to express busses in Hawaii when the Honolulu Skyline opened up for service. The A express busses used to go all the way from Downtown Honolulu all the way to Waipahu. This is the bus I would use when I wasn’t driving. Now that the Skyline has opened, the A express buss stops at the Skyline and Bus station near Aloha Stadium. People heading to Waipahu would need to depart the bus and transfer to other busses or ride Skyline. It’s inconvenient during low traffic hours like between 9:30 am to 3:30pm. But during heavy traffic, it helps some people by going over it. But then they would still need to transfer to another bus at the Skyline/ bus station they depart. The train will eventually get to Honolulu in 2025, downtown Honolulu in 2031 (construction is expensive and slow here). Trains in town will feed the train with passengers during rush hour rather than getting stuck in traffic. So it’s a good thing in the long run.
Good thing Japanese people don’t have to worry about safety. I hated having to wait at bust stops at night. I was called out for fights a couple of times by punks and nearly mugged once, that was many years ago. It’s even worse now because now they pull out guns. There have had people held at gun point and even shot. It doesn’t get much news because it’s America.
"I'm ready to eat" 😂😃
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Now new STJ video
Great timing 👌😃
From here, it seems more of an inconvenience than ‘controversial’. Sure, a straight train is better.
GranClass is absolutely luxurious & beautiful 👍👍👍
And what I would do at the overcrowded escalators, go first or go last.
Overall - Beautiful in God’s own country, Japan ~
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16:55 In Minnesota we'd say "It's different."
It's the sort of food you would eat when it's put in front of you, but you'd never get if you're paying for it.
Hello, I'm traveling to Japan a second time so far in October. We're landing in Tokyo and on the very next day we'll travel to Fukuoka. What would be the best possible way to do so? Currently I'm just thinking to take the Shinkansen. Is there anything better or something alternative? :)
Seems like changing trains at Tsuruga isn't as smooth as the new(ish) shinkansen line to Nagasaki, where the Relay Kamome trains are times perfectly and you just have to walk across to the other side of the platform. Still, I'd love to try Gran Class one day!
Awesome
My wife and I used Thunderbird 10+ times and was our favorite train because of comfort and you lose the crowd.
Nice!!!😮😮😮❤
Is GranClass seat eligible to be reserved with JR Pass ?
Well it will be very worth after I spend ¥50k worth amount of money for the pass
Yonezawa beef on the Hokuriku Shinkansen? That's kind of strange. Usually Shinkansen feature foods from the areas served by that Shinkansen Line.
Loved the video! But what makes this route controversial?
Hmm they did have a brochure on the first train , explaining how to transfer :-) Might have helped reading it :-)
The seats look very comfortable, but the food other than the dessert didn't look like it was something I would order. The ekiben looked tastier to me. 🙂
wow interesting experience
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what a fascinating place Japan is
RIP Thunderbird :(
Please make a Ginzan Onsen tour soon 🙏
I love the Thunderbird, sad to see it retiring.
The foot traffic doesn't look that bad, but then again I'm used to London foot traffic so nothing is busy to me anymore.
Lol, fact they did placed "Transfers at Tsuruga Station" manual kind of confirms there are issues with it :D
That train exchange and station is a mess to traverse. What a bad idea they had.
"Unique" = A polite way of saying meh/awful!
Confusing would be a much better word to describe the chaotic transfer
I guess they will eventually extend it from Tsuruga to Kyoto. Doesn't really make sense to not close this small gap to offer the citizens of Kanazawa and Tsuruga a fast connection to Kyoto.
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That train was cool.
The Northern Coast is so different from the Osaka-Tokyo belt
It's so cool to see high speed rail, and with such comfortable seating. It's pathetic that the transportation system in the U.S. is so archaic and that we haven't invested to modernize our rail systems.
Aren't you in the States? And I am wondering why you have triple the time I have on traveling😂
What a waste. I took the Thunderbird from Osaka/Kyoto to Kanazawa multiple times in the past. It was fairly cheap for such a long distance and really efficient. I don't think expanding the Shinkansen line was really necessary...😢
It will certainly be worth it once the Hokuriku Shinkansen reaches Osaka.
I kind of have to agree that they should have finished the whole line first between Kanazawa and Osaka before opening the line.
Leaving it short all the way from Tsuruga to Osaka makes it distressing by having to transfer between train platforms.
Hopefully the Tsuruga to Osaka section will be completed soon.
I want to go to Japan. ASAP
Look at this guy riding “GranClass”, what a balla!
loooks nice
That's a shame. It sure looked good.
They should have had more escalators to relieve that congestion during transfer.