We went with a different design on our go kart. I put a honda gx160 modded for some ridiculous revs and made the go kart about 2 inches off the ground. We also stances it out super wide and put the seat as low to the ground as possible to drop the center of gravity. It goes about 40mph and it can't flip. We've tried. We literally took it on pavement at full speed and just cranked it as hard as we could one way and it wouldn't even lift on 2 wheels. It's so much fun because you can drift on literally anything and take corners at like Mach 1. The only problem with our design is that if there's any rocks or potholes, then the belly pan slams them really hard. Yours seems a lot more practical for cruising around tho, and a lot easier on the body too lol. Imagine what a design like ours could do with a 13 hp motor, some more speed, and slightly better engineering it would be absolutely insane! The gx160 scares the balls off of me as is
I took a Murray 1wd kart and converted it to a live axle and it's got 14.5 inch atv tires with 5 inches of ground clearance, maybe more and it got to 42.5 with 1-5.4 gearing, it has a stock 212cc engine
When you're charging down those hills wide open with no brakes, what were you going to do if someone pulling out of their driveway either didn't see you or didn't look? In those residential neighborhoods you would be surprised how many people back out of the driveways without even looking. One afternoon I heard the squealing of brakes and honking of horns, my next door neighbor, a mother on her way to pick up her kids after school, backed out in front of a big yellow SCHOOL BUS! She dang near hit it.
+G56AG I remember being a kid, on a 35mph gocart, with tiny tires. Truck swung a curb going too fast in the wrong lane, so I had to sing my way up a 4ft bank :) Good times.
The clutch is slipping because of 2 things. A) centrifugal clutches are for under 10 hp and B) a centrifugal clutch should be used with wheels 14 inches or lower. I hope that helped!
By 2020 I take it you figured out that the transfer of power from the output shaft verses the Jack shaft are dramatically different ? Cool kart man, I like your style!
The reason he can't add a torque converter because the big oil filter is in the way that's a generator motor im having that same problem i have the same motor a regular clutch slips the torque converter want fit any more ideas
my go kart engine is vertical shaft running to a belt, which turns the chains which go to the centrifugal clutchs, then to a spoke that connects to the rear axle. And is not pauzy
You should have plenty of torque to pull that cart. In my opinion you have far too much going on with the jackshafts and all. As Patrick Gillbanks stated, I would use a belt converter which raises the ratio as the engine revs. Don't go by the sprocket diameter and instead calculate the ratio by number of teeth on the drive sprocket relevant to the teeth on the driven sprocket. As far as it wanting to tip, you have a fairly high center of gravity considering the track to wheelbase ratio. Widening your front track width just a bit will surely improve your cornering. Pretty cool build tho. I like seeing folks using their imagination and skill like you have.
that clutch has to be mounted to the shaft of the engine or your not getting enough rpm when revving the engine. the bigger the motor the more it ahould grab. its impossible to put to much power to a centrifugal clutch. higher the rpm better it will grab?
you are awesome. I think you should find a way to widen your wheel base. if you can find a gy6 scooter cheap like a wrecked one or blown motor. get the tourque converter or transmission outta that it would be even better
I Would recommend burning your tires down a bit before trying to drift with that much friction. Try holding it in place and letting the tires spin on the road.
put the clutch on the motor not on the jack shafts and take a few off your ratio is probably to high with your setup did you consider the ratio when using all the jack shafts
80% sure those clutches are for 2 - 8 HP. You could just use 2 of them in parallel and handle 3 more HP than you have. Just lengthen the primary shaft to make room for it. And lengthen the secondary and put on a second sprocket.
Nice work... You really should lose that centrifugal clutch and fit it with a 40 series TC though. I built a 16hp kart with 18" tires, it accelerates hard and hills don't hardly slow it down. It hauls my 260lb's at an honest (GPS) 52 mph with it's current gearing set up.
+Adrian Owen cintrificul clutches don't have a forward or backwards, they are designed to just shoot out when spun fast enough, I only know this because I use one backwards on the go kart I race and I dosent slip.
stretch clutch springs so the clutch will ingage at lower rps I have a 5 horse and it had the same problem I loosend the springs and I could take off so much quicker
Your set up from sprocket to sprocket to jack shaft to clutch to sprocket to sprocket is rediculous Get a Noram Star Clutch they are not cheap but you can set the clutch to take off was what ever rpm you want by changing the springs
CVT it needs one way to narrow just extend the wheels out put some brakes on it get a steering wheel get the clutch off the jack shaft and on the motor
You should have put a torque converter it runs off a belt and gives it better torque/take off and better top speed I put it on mine and it changed it a lot
Awful-lot of jack-shafting around... Too-much for my taste! You should've applied the K.I.S.S. method: Keep it simple, stupid! "The more complex you make the plumbing, the easier it is to stuff-up the drain." - Montgomery T. Scott, Chief Ship's Engineer.
thats a 5hp clutch. anything bigger than 6.5hp needs a belt drive torque converter... i made the same mistake you did and wiped a brand new clutch :( live and learn i guess
Dude rip all of that crap of and install a cvt torque converter ..the comet 40 series is what you need but a 30 series tav cvt would even work ..jeez all that money and time and energy please look into a cvt ...amazon sells them as well as gopowersports.com....what a waste that thing could be amazing but right now it kinda sucks and no centrifugal clutch on this planet is going to work or last you are cooking it...
first of all use a torque converter next you slip not because you're pushing too much power you may have made your gearing too tall and you lose about 6-7 hp through all those sprockets and chains
We went with a different design on our go kart. I put a honda gx160 modded for some ridiculous revs and made the go kart about 2 inches off the ground. We also stances it out super wide and put the seat as low to the ground as possible to drop the center of gravity. It goes about 40mph and it can't flip. We've tried. We literally took it on pavement at full speed and just cranked it as hard as we could one way and it wouldn't even lift on 2 wheels. It's so much fun because you can drift on literally anything and take corners at like Mach 1. The only problem with our design is that if there's any rocks or potholes, then the belly pan slams them really hard. Yours seems a lot more practical for cruising around tho, and a lot easier on the body too lol. Imagine what a design like ours could do with a 13 hp motor, some more speed, and slightly better engineering it would be absolutely insane! The gx160 scares the balls off of me as is
I took a Murray 1wd kart and converted it to a live axle and it's got 14.5 inch atv tires with 5 inches of ground clearance, maybe more and it got to 42.5 with 1-5.4 gearing, it has a stock 212cc engine
"the chains have not fallen off....YET"
😂😂
3:55 your neighbors are nice, most of my neighbors look mad when I drive my go kart! LOL
When you're charging down those hills wide open with no brakes, what were you going to do if someone pulling out of their driveway either didn't see you or didn't look? In those residential neighborhoods you would be surprised how many people back out of the driveways without even looking. One afternoon I heard the squealing of brakes and honking of horns, my next door neighbor, a mother on her way to pick up her kids after school, backed out in front of a big yellow SCHOOL BUS! She dang near hit it.
+G56AG I remember being a kid, on a 35mph gocart, with tiny tires. Truck swung a curb going too fast in the wrong lane, so I had to sing my way up a 4ft bank :) Good times.
The clutch is slipping because of 2 things. A) centrifugal clutches are for under 10 hp and B) a centrifugal clutch should be used with wheels 14 inches or lower. I hope that helped!
Baja mini bikes are geared way down. Sorry for my insufficient knowledge. That's just what I had heard from google
He has said in the description why the clutch slipped, did you even read it?
the centrifugal clutch would work fine you just have to many bullshit Jack shafts
By 2020 I take it you figured out that the transfer of power from the output shaft verses the Jack shaft are dramatically different ? Cool kart man, I like your style!
The reason he can't add a torque converter because the big oil filter is in the way that's a generator motor im having that same problem i have the same motor a regular clutch slips the torque converter want fit any more ideas
congrats dude u just hit 10,000 subscribers
It's not that it's got too much power. The Hilliard clutches are factory set to engage at 2600 rpms. If you read the packaging you would know that.
my go kart engine is vertical shaft running to a belt, which turns the chains which go to the centrifugal clutchs, then to a spoke that connects to the rear axle. And is not pauzy
Holy heck man.. that thing is awesome!
You should have plenty of torque to pull that cart. In my opinion you have far too much going on with the jackshafts and all. As Patrick Gillbanks stated, I would use a belt converter which raises the ratio as the engine revs. Don't go by the sprocket diameter and instead calculate the ratio by number of teeth on the drive sprocket relevant to the teeth on the driven sprocket. As far as it wanting to tip, you have a fairly high center of gravity considering the track to wheelbase ratio. Widening your front track width just a bit will surely improve your cornering. Pretty cool build tho. I like seeing folks using their imagination and skill like you have.
Airplane yoke. Cool kart!
mine has crap brakes too you can hold them all the way down and keep going, and my engine is a 12.5 horse power Briggs and Stratton engine.
that clutch has to be mounted to the shaft of the engine or your not getting enough rpm when revving the engine. the bigger the motor the more it ahould grab. its impossible to put to much power to a centrifugal clutch. higher the rpm better it will grab?
you are awesome. I think you should find a way to widen your wheel base. if you can find a gy6 scooter cheap like a wrecked one or blown motor. get the tourque converter or transmission outta that it would be even better
great build ! where did you get the pillow block bearings? - about how tall would the motor be with its gas tank removed? ( - for minibike use )
Very Cool Kart Man!! Well Done!
Nicely done! Love it!
I Would recommend burning your tires down a bit before trying to drift with that much friction. Try holding it in place and letting the tires spin on the road.
put the clutch on the motor not on the jack shafts and take a few off your ratio is probably to high with your setup did you consider the ratio when using all the jack shafts
What type of wheels are they they kinda look like these
Nanco N688 Knobby 145/70-6 A/2PR (1 TIRE)
Whoa man that looks letahl! Wold a 4-6 hp engine cope with that kinda load?
it has a 13 HP engine
nice drive train design
man this thing is awesome
why do you have so many moving parts
80% sure those clutches are for 2 - 8 HP. You could just use 2 of them in parallel and handle 3 more HP than you have. Just lengthen the primary shaft to make room for it. And lengthen the secondary and put on a second sprocket.
Yeah make it even more overly complicated and over engineered
Torque Converter time.
+1crazynordlander EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!
+1crazynordlander a torque converter is for people who wanna go 50 MPH a clutch is for people who wanna go 80
you dont go 80 with a shitty clutch
Top Kek that's funny fukin fast mini bikes did it they had a clutch...
Nice work... You really should lose that centrifugal clutch and fit it with a 40 series TC though. I built a 16hp kart with 18" tires, it accelerates hard and hills don't hardly slow it down. It hauls my 260lb's at an honest (GPS) 52 mph with it's current gearing set up.
Mate those 390 engines have more than enough power to just have the one of those gear reductions
Great engineering skills, now all you gotta do is change gearing not buy a clutch, try 10to1 final ratio
maybe just me but isn't your clutch running backwards ? would that cause it to slip
+Adrian Owen cintrificul clutches don't have a forward or backwards, they are designed to just shoot out when spun fast enough, I only know this because I use one backwards on the go kart I race and I dosent slip.
The clutch has to break in first it has a protective coating in the drum, I have the same engine with a similar set up and I can do burn outs.
anyone know what size clutch that is? plz let me know.
stretch clutch springs so the clutch will ingage at lower rps I have a 5 horse and it had the same problem I loosend the springs and I could take off so much quicker
it looks awesome but if a chain falls off your in some trouble
Where did u get the motor at
Your set up from sprocket to sprocket to jack shaft to clutch to sprocket to sprocket is rediculous Get a Noram Star Clutch they are not cheap but you can set the clutch to take off was what ever rpm you want by changing the springs
CVT it needs one way to narrow just extend the wheels out put some brakes on it get a steering wheel get the clutch off the jack shaft and on the motor
Nice kart
what piping did u use to make the frame
You should have put a torque converter it runs off a belt and gives it better torque/take off and better top speed I put it on mine and it changed it a lot
needs a torque converter
Whats the converter do?
@@dloren6183 simply put converts high revs to torque (4 years later 😂)
What's with the camera? It's making me dizzy.
OlCody45 he edit it if it wasn’t that u saw it shaking bad now he edit it so the footage doesn’t shake that much
Put a torque converter on the thing it will solve that problem
what kind of brakes does it have?
Very cool
From where you've got the wheels?
cool car
U should get smaller wheels in the front so you can turn better!
whats the clutch to drive axle ratio?
Clutch should not be on the jack shaft. Need it on the crankshaft directly or at least on the input side of the jack shaft.
nice build man! not really fast thoe.
suspension?
dude, your awesome
how much
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you should upgrade it with a predator 670
You keep posting Honda links but it looks like a Predator from Harbor Freight
try tightening the chain on the clutch
Doood... I wanna see you convert it to run off your hydrogen cell. Might give it more kick too.
The slipping might be from all the parasitic loss of all those jack shafts.
okay it's 13 HP. What's the fastest you have gone on it?
What is with the camara
Awful-lot of jack-shafting around... Too-much for my taste! You should've applied the K.I.S.S. method: Keep it simple, stupid!
"The more complex you make the plumbing, the easier it is to stuff-up the drain." - Montgomery T. Scott, Chief Ship's Engineer.
How could I get a gold card to buy to come to Jamaica
If your clutch didn't drift it you could drift even withy the width, or just peak tire pressure
thats a 5hp clutch. anything bigger than 6.5hp needs a belt drive torque converter... i made the same mistake you did and wiped a brand new clutch :( live and learn i guess
wtf is wrong with ur camera the image is drunk?
I think its camera stabilization
Lmao drunk cam
who is Bax?
everything that turns you lose power
Tourque Converter!!
+Carson Bowie for sure. it would scream with a torque converter setup
never buy tractor supply clutches.buy russo or go power sport clutch
I'd buy something like this from ya
When I get cargo card to buy
my gokart has a 2.5 hp and gose faster then that going up hill I think that you need to lose some stuff so it can go faster just saying
+Luke Mccoy i geared it for power
+Luke Mccoy is this stuff illegal to drive around with on the street?
+is it good to do yea it is
in every country? ( sweden )
Pritty sure
àaaa alright I was wondering bro I was like why so slow with a lot of hp
GET RID OF ALL THE CRAP AND JUST GET A TORQUE CONVERTER
I want this thing
that thing is really slow
Dude rip all of that crap of and install a cvt torque converter ..the comet 40 series is what you need but a 30 series tav cvt would even work ..jeez all that money and time and energy please look into a cvt ...amazon sells them as well as gopowersports.com....what a waste that thing could be amazing but right now it kinda sucks and no centrifugal clutch on this planet is going to work or last you are cooking it...
I can already see all the problems
Airplane yoke*
Jajajaja como se le ocurre dejar el go kart solo
shame you cant take it out of gear and roll down hill lol thats if you still have it that is
Don't need a cluch
Bruce McCann
And how's that I'm just curious. Because if you didn't have some kind of clutch the wheels would be constantly moving from start up
Get a torque converter instead!!!!!!
And gear the damn thing lower for more top speed if you torque it up then you will have a fast take off but slow top speed
you should have plenty of power you just need to get your gearing right and lose about half of that b******* jackshaft set up
first of all use a torque converter
next you slip not because you're pushing too much power you may have made your gearing too tall and you lose about 6-7 hp through all those sprockets and chains
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EPIC FAIL!
nice frame design