Mine was stamped on the first week of March 1929 at the plant in Whitby Ontario, Canada which starts with a C and a few years ago I found the matching number on the frame. Truly a happy discovery.
Mine was the city of Alhambra fire chief’s truck. Bought by my great grandfather, then passed on to my grandfather, then my dad, then me. The engine has been changed, but they kept the old one, which I have. I’ve never checked, but so far as I know it’s serial number should match that of the truck. If so, some day I’ll overhaul it and swap it in.
I grew up in Arcadia not far from Alhambra. In 1960's when I was a little kid my dad bought a 1928 or 1929 Ford AA Truck that belonged to the City of Pasadena. It had a water tank on it for spray I would imagine or other uses. At our house there was no tank in back. About 1962 time frame. Older brothers that were 13 and 15 at the time played on it and learned to drive it.
Another great video!...and to add to the confusion, Ford made many almost identical looking engines for industrial and agricultural purposes like air compressors or combines that could have been stamped any way by who knows and these engines have found their way into cars.
3:04 Some variation on location on driver side rail. Seen one at rear motor mount and visible when removing fender. It was on a numbers matching block with correct font. Sept 1930 block. Chester Pa. Assembly. Late 30 features.
I remember the first Ford engines that came out from the Gorki plant in Russia had the same numbering system. Later when ww 2 came they started using different letters and numbering. The Gorki plant cars and trucks had both frame number, engine number and also a tag on the firewall. But the engine and body number would never match since lot of the engines went also for military and other uses.
I notice that the serial numbers stamped on the engine block are stamped very similar to the engines used in the Ford 9N,2N, and 8N tractors with a star from beginning to end, except the first two characters after the star , represented the tractor model.
I recently acquired a1931 model a 5 window coupe. The previous owner couldn’t tell me anything about it tho. The motor is stamped MINN 10xx Was there a ford rebuilt Center in Minneapolis? I believe the engine has been rebuilt there is no signs of wear in cylinders an still has cross hatch pattern on walls. Although the ordeals and other items aren’t worn either. Another wierd thing was it has a larger oil filler tube like off a B engine but still has the oil drain tube from the valve cover to block. Next step is to pull oil pan and check bearing clearance and see if there are insert bearings fingers 🤞.
My 1931!! Deluxe Delivery has engine number #4833166 and was made on Jan 3, 1932. The car itself was registered the first time in Norway September 28.that same year.
Having been a Model A enthusiast for many years, I think it's hilarious when I come across sellers stating "matching numbers car". I ask them did they find the number on the frame. They give me a dumb look and say the numbers match the title. Doesn't mean anything other than it could have been re-registered with a new title and number which isn't that hard to do.
We made this video specifically to try and dispel some of the folklore around engine numbers. Next time someone tells you a bogus story about an engine number point them this way! Thanks for watching.
My car is titled a 1930, however, the engine was made in 21st June of 1929. Either warehoused or maybe a replacement engine? Very interesting video! Thanks and I subscribed.
Model A's are a great car to have fun with; whether in the garage or out on the road. I'd suggest joining a local Model A Club and start to make some contacts for when cars become available.
Thanks for the comment. The dates on the firewall of Mid '28 - Mid '29 gas tanks are believed to be the dates the gas tank assembly was completed. Check out the Plucks329s link in the video description as he has a great article about them on his page.
I found 3 of these in the woods and managed to extract them..only 1 was complete with an engine. Number was ☆CAS2009☆..from what I can tell by this number it was made at the Windsor plant in April 1931. I prefer my model T's,found at the same location,half the weight and half the parts needed,to that of the model A
No. There are no known records indicating where engines were shipped to from the Rogue. There are no known records of what day an engine went into a car either. If you're trying to determine what assembly plant your car was built at watch this video and see if you have a body stamp. ua-cam.com/video/JaVjMUkbOwI/v-deo.html
Re engine A1, I am very suspicious this was a photo op. by Ford, & that they made publicity by presenting A1 installed in a Phaeton to Thomas Edison in June 1928. According to Rouge factory logs of late 1927, there are various early engines with earlier casting features to A1. The earliest 1927 engine existing today is A189 which was a roadster sent to Sweden in March 1928. It has earlier casting features [ eg. engine # pad] compared to A1.
My Model A has an engine number proceeded with the letters LB what does this mean. This is a California vehicle and the engine number does not match the VIN number on my title. I think it may be a replacement engine and someone told me it may have indicated it was from a Long Beach Port Ford tow vehicle.
Thanks for the comment. I've seen people swear that it means a Long Beach refurbished block and others who claim it is a refurbished "Long Block". Having never seen any documentation one way or the other I'm not sure what it means.
Probably non-existent. There's photos of AA trucks that had some '32 features like headlights and radiator shell, but those still had the Model A engine in them. Check out our video on The Last Model A for more information about the changeover from A to V8 production.
That engine was stamped Oct 15 1930. Given how much vehicle assembly slowed down in '30 it's no surprise it took until '31 to wind up in a car. Thanks for watching!
Mine was stamped on the first week of March 1929 at the plant in Whitby Ontario, Canada which starts with a C and a few years ago I found the matching number on the frame. Truly a happy discovery.
Very nice! Thanks for watching.
Mine was the city of Alhambra fire chief’s truck. Bought by my great grandfather, then passed on to my grandfather, then my dad, then me. The engine has been changed, but they kept the old one, which I have. I’ve never checked, but so far as I know it’s serial number should match that of the truck. If so, some day I’ll overhaul it and swap it in.
I grew up in Arcadia not far from Alhambra. In 1960's when I was a little kid my dad bought a 1928 or 1929 Ford AA Truck that belonged to the City of Pasadena. It had a water tank on it for spray I would imagine or other uses.
At our house there was no tank in back. About 1962 time frame. Older brothers that were 13 and 15 at the time played on it and learned to drive it.
Another great video!...and to add to the confusion, Ford made many almost identical looking engines for industrial and agricultural purposes like air compressors or combines that could have been stamped any way by who knows and these engines have found their way into cars.
I agree!!
This is why the Model A is so intriguing!!! We had a couple back in the 70s.... thanks for posting this great video!!🎩🇺🇸🎩
So fascinating. Thanks for bringing us this!
Interesting video! Mike from Missouri
My great uncle worked for Ford, before WW1.
Have a picture of his car, with the notation that it was engine #1872.
3:04 Some variation on location on driver side rail. Seen one at rear motor mount and visible when removing fender. It was on a numbers matching block with correct font. Sept 1930 block. Chester Pa. Assembly. Late 30 features.
This is great!
I am a future Model A owner 🙂
I remember the first Ford engines that came out from the Gorki plant in Russia had the same numbering system. Later when ww 2 came they started using different letters and numbering. The Gorki plant cars and trucks had both frame number, engine number and also a tag on the firewall. But the engine and body number would never match since lot of the engines went also for military and other uses.
I enjoyed this and all your videos. My 1928 Phaeton-*A73695*-Engine built April 5, 1928
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Great video!!! 👍👍👍
July 11th 1930 and thank you for the video
I notice that the serial numbers stamped on the engine block are stamped very similar to the engines used in the Ford 9N,2N, and 8N tractors with a star from beginning to end, except the first two characters after the star , represented the tractor model.
I recently acquired a1931 model a 5 window coupe. The previous owner couldn’t tell me anything about it tho. The motor is stamped MINN 10xx
Was there a ford rebuilt Center in Minneapolis? I believe the engine has been rebuilt there is no signs of wear in cylinders an still has cross hatch pattern on walls. Although the ordeals and other items aren’t worn either. Another wierd thing was it has a larger oil filler tube like off a B engine but still has the oil drain tube from the valve cover to block. Next step is to pull oil pan and check bearing clearance and see if there are insert bearings fingers 🤞.
My 1931!! Deluxe Delivery has engine number #4833166 and was made on Jan 3, 1932. The car itself was registered the first time in Norway September 28.that same year.
Having been a Model A enthusiast for many years, I think it's hilarious when I come across sellers stating "matching numbers car". I ask them did they find the number on the frame. They give me a dumb look and say the numbers match the title. Doesn't mean anything other than it could have been re-registered with a new title and number which isn't that hard to do.
We made this video specifically to try and dispel some of the folklore around engine numbers. Next time someone tells you a bogus story about an engine number point them this way! Thanks for watching.
thanks for a great video, very helpful
Yep, excellent video Bob!
Классика ! История !
Now I will have to check the number plate on my block which tells me almost nothing. I was really hoping it would give a bit more info.
Great video! I have a strange number on mine: "star" R4M159 "star". Its in a 1930 roadster now, but I have no clue about origin.
Most likely a restamp done by an engine rebuilder sometime in the past 90 years. The most important thing is that it is being used in a car now!
I have a modal a engine stamped right front right below the head and a big stencil on the right rear lower side of engine ,same number with no stars.
My car is titled a 1930, however, the engine was made in 21st June of 1929. Either warehoused or maybe a replacement engine? Very interesting video! Thanks and I subscribed.
This is a very common scenario. "Back in the day", it was more common to swap a defective engine for a good used one than to have the engine rebuilt.
Similar story here. I have a 1928 body with a 1929 gas tank and a 1931 engine. Probably replacement.
This is my dream car I hope to have one one day if I can find one that’s not an arm and a leg
Model A's are a great car to have fun with; whether in the garage or out on the road. I'd suggest joining a local Model A Club and start to make some contacts for when cars become available.
Thank you for this informative video. Do you have any information on the dates stamped on the firewall?
Thanks for the comment. The dates on the firewall of Mid '28 - Mid '29 gas tanks are believed to be the dates the gas tank assembly was completed. Check out the Plucks329s link in the video description as he has a great article about them on his page.
@@AModelA Thanks much! I enjoy your videos. 😊
I found 3 of these in the woods and managed to extract them..only 1 was complete with an engine. Number was ☆CAS2009☆..from what I can tell by this number it was made at the Windsor plant in April 1931. I prefer my model T's,found at the same location,half the weight and half the parts needed,to that of the model A
Model A engines can you tell what assembly factory they were shipped to
No. There are no known records indicating where engines were shipped to from the Rogue. There are no known records of what day an engine went into a car either. If you're trying to determine what assembly plant your car was built at watch this video and see if you have a body stamp.
ua-cam.com/video/JaVjMUkbOwI/v-deo.html
Re engine A1, I am very suspicious this was a photo op. by Ford, & that they made publicity by presenting A1 installed in a Phaeton to Thomas Edison in June 1928. According to Rouge factory logs of late 1927, there are various early engines with earlier casting features to A1. The earliest 1927 engine existing today is A189 which was a roadster sent to Sweden in March 1928. It has earlier casting features [ eg. engine # pad] compared to A1.
August 1929 in the good ol' USA!
Sept. 10th 1930
IM GLAD SOMEWHAT THAT FORD,BOUGHT WATT ENGINES.SAVING THE FIRST PART OF HISTORY.OIL HAS BEEN MY INTREST.NOW TESLA.
Actually the engine was stamped 1st then sent to break-in, if rejected it was sent back for repair. We know this because of daily logs.
My Model A has an engine number proceeded with the letters LB what does this mean. This is a California vehicle and the engine number does not match the VIN number on my title. I think it may be a replacement engine and someone told me it may have indicated it was from a Long Beach Port Ford tow vehicle.
Thanks for the comment. I've seen people swear that it means a Long Beach refurbished block and others who claim it is a refurbished "Long Block". Having never seen any documentation one way or the other I'm not sure what it means.
2nd week of September 1931... Ford Model A woodie wagon...
How rare is AA Truck V8?
Probably non-existent. There's photos of AA trucks that had some '32 features like headlights and radiator shell, but those still had the Model A engine in them. Check out our video on The Last Model A for more information about the changeover from A to V8 production.
The video and narration is good information, but that roaring 20's background music is distracting.
Wonder where that #1 Engine is today…
Thanks for watching! Some would say it is at the Model A Ford Foundation Museum at the Gilmore Car Museum.
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Can’t you come up with some different music? Same tune all the time!
That song was written in tribute to the Model A replacing the Model T. The Model T was referred to as a Tin Lizzy thus the lyrics in the song.
Currently helping restoring my late Grandfathers first car, a 1931 Model A coupe. Engine# 4048108
That engine was stamped Oct 15 1930. Given how much vehicle assembly slowed down in '30 it's no surprise it took until '31 to wind up in a car.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed!