Its more a patience thing, Melo is more of “by the time we dial this in… the amount of times we’ll suck it at first isnt worth it. Just give me the ball” While Bron is more of “if we learn this we will become unstoppable and its not even hard to do, we just gotta trust each other to make the right play, we might fuck it up at first but when this is done right its unstoppable”
@@devenhodge7200 J kidd can coach tho and he did stuff on the court mfers will never replicate, he was the OG mr triple double since Big O. J Kidd was crazy on the court
@@richym3899 naw you’re just a 🤡for nitpicking like that😂😂”aCtuallY itS 27.1” who’s cares still one of the highest ppg averages in nba history. You commented for no reason
Honestly if he played selfishly I don't think he would've had as many finals appearances, purely cause some of the rosters he's led there were absolute garbage. Like his 1st Cavs stint
Could listen to GP, KG and Shump talk hoops all day. There ought to be a show called OG Hoop Talk. I'd buy that channel. Edit: Thanks for the love guys. Alot of suggestions for panelists in the comments. My thought was a rotating cast with 1 or 2 that would be regulars. Maybe have Snoop as the host? They could pick out a guy or a team each week to talk about. Another guy for the panel could be Kenyon Martin. Workingman's baller. Show up w/a black lunch pail, cheese and balony sandwich, pack of Doritos and an orange soda. Pound it down at halftime. Then back to work. He's lowkey funny af, too. Make suggestions about format, panel, subjects, etc, W/all the thumbs up it seems this really may have some juice. It'd be better as a podcast, though. Ballers need to be ballers without constraint. Any network or cable channel would just fck it up. Patreon based and FUBU for hardcore ballers and those who love it. If anyone out there who knows somebody who knows somebody who can make this happen? Get on it! We're all waiting, dawg! lol
I tell people all the time LeBron could have played hog ball like Kobe and MJ but he’s too much of a team first player. And Melo could have been just as athletic as Lebrun but he never worked out. A lot of wasted potential from both possibilities.
@@24KLuxuryhe most definitely could not have been just as athletic as lebron off of the pure fact that he doesn’t have lebron’s genetics working out more doesn’t change
I think Melo took care of his body just enough for his play style personally. He played bully ball so the extra weight played into that perfectly. Plus he definitely had a lot of muscle (at least in his legs for sure) underneath there cause his first step was too quick for his appearance. Like PG said after the retirement Melo was strong and "fat" but quick which made him so hard to guard
@@24KLuxuryWhat do you mean wasted potential? Dude has 4 Rings, 10 finals appearances. Dude is doing what Jimmy Butler has been doing with multiple rosters. Selfish don’t matter he takes over the game when he needs to. He scored Ed 41 points against the warriors 2016 game 5 and still made assists and plays.
@@24KLuxuryit’s not wasted potential it’s just playing the game a different way honestly.. he is a pass first player but it doesn’t take away from the fact he can put up 29.9ppg in a season
It's the difference between a leader vs. the best player. A leader will put you in the position you need to be in based what you can and cannot do. The best player will simply expect you to do it because that's how he sees it in his mind. And if you can't do it, he'll take it upon himself to do it.
@@FreePlayMode another big difference is how people see the game. Bron is a example of a analytical mind who can break it down into steps for you to easily understand. Melo is a example of someone who understands the game off pure instincts he just knows but can't explain it in a way for people to be able to understand the way he does. Bron and Melo reach the same conclusion but only one can put it into words.
That’s why I put lebron at top dawg ever rn to be able to involve your team,get boards,score on all 3 levels, Gaurd all 5 positions, and stay healthy. The most complete player ever
Lmao he's definitely not a 3 level scorer when he can't shoot and he can't guard all 5 positions 😂😂😂 stop adding shit to make him look better he's not a complete player because he can't shoot
bro fr he literally went to farragut for a year bc his mom didn’t want him in SC getting caught up in shit he either shouldn’t have been doing or the people around him was doing
It's times like this when a person like Magic and the old NBA is appreciated. A man who's going to get you the ball, even when you don't realize it. On top of that, a league where you pretty much have the same teammates for 5 to 10 yrs. If your not on the same page in that time frame, I don't know what to say.
Melo and kd have same problem they are just soo good naturally that they cannt make others better ...whereas LeBron makes players around him better ...LeBron can tell you exactly the plays , spots , timing every thing
LeBron is very skilled wisely talented, a floor general, an on court couch, dimer, lock down defender at its prime, and all the other traits he has that we have known for years
@@elcappa1167 that response doesn't make any sense lol. Them being different people doesn't change the fact that they had similar mindsets. One just happened to win with that mindset and the other didn't. Players that lead by example can win too. Plain and simple. For example Kobe, Kawhi, Tim Duncan, Dirk, etc. You dont have to be a floor general to lead a team to a ship. And not all floor generals win. Just look at CP3
@mekhig.9350 The context of how he got to his rings don't matter in this argument tho. Yes he played with Shaq and won 3 ships. Yes he then got 2 more with Pau. He still carried the same mentality through his entire career, and was the undeniable leader for at least 2 of those rings with the mindset that was coined as Mamba Mentality. And he's rightfully praised for it cause its highly inspiring and like I said he proves you can have that mentality and still win ships
In truth a lot of that difference is because at heart Lebron is a point guard. He was just born with the size and attributes of a forward but he’s an elite game manager. Melo was an all time scorer so he could see the game but couldn’t necessarily teach it like Bron.
Two great players. One gives you a chance and if you can’t do it, they’ll just do it for you. One breaks down the game to you, but tell you to just stand here and imma get you the ball. You’re watching both players but one is giving you a chance to become a star but you only get one shot. The other one is going to turn you into a 2K legendary corner specialist, catch and shoot specialist, and a volume specialist.
@@IamHimathy420 I pointed those out because it were the times he reached the finals. Luckily I didn't point out the fact that when he left his teams except for the heat that the team became a lottery team. Showing how bad the management of the cavs were which he spent most of his career in. Because a team can't and shouldn't become a terrible team if they were really competent in the first place. That's just random stuff though, factors like those are unnecessary because what matters in this world is full proof hardware.
It’s a normal thang that talented people can’t teach the things they do bc it’s coming naturally
Its more a patience thing, Melo is more of “by the time we dial this in… the amount of times we’ll suck it at first isnt worth it. Just give me the ball”
While Bron is more of “if we learn this we will become unstoppable and its not even hard to do, we just gotta trust each other to make the right play, we might fuck it up at first but when this is done right its unstoppable”
This is why the elite can’t coach
@@devenhodge7200 J kidd can coach tho and he did stuff on the court mfers will never replicate, he was the OG mr triple double since Big O. J Kidd was crazy on the court
Like an extremely gifted math teacher. They usually suck at teaching others
It’s all mental. You gotta believe to achieve.
Melo: I took a chance on you to see if you can do it… you can’t.. it’s all good. I’ll do it myself. Imma take the blame for it anyway.
And took it with no hard feelings
@@JahThaGod9593 None….
Real nigga💯
@@Unozooted 💯Facts.. With LeBron. You gon take the blame for it when you can’t. If you do.. He gets the credits
@@SDSOverfiendman what??
Averaging nearly 28PPG (4th highest all time) while being a real-life on-court coach is crazy 😭
Why are you saying nearly 28 when it’s like 27.1 (if it hasn’t dropped into the 26s)?
@@richym3899oh Jesus 🤦♂️
@@raymondsims7042 am I lying? Wtf
@@richym3899 naw you’re just a 🤡for nitpicking like that😂😂”aCtuallY itS 27.1” who’s cares still one of the highest ppg averages in nba history. You commented for no reason
@@richym3899still 4th all time
Bron literally has the most points all time AND is top ten in Assists all time. I dont think people get how crazy that is 🤯
Top 5 in Assists All Time
And over 10k rebounds
Top 10 all time in rebounds too
Edit. I meant 10k + in rebounds.
@@antoniofba667
If 10k rebounds was enough to be top 10 all time. The league would be a sad place.
@@antoniofba667Dwight is #10 at 14k so bron ain’t quite there but 10k is crazy nonetheless
Why does this guy don't have his own sports show by now ? He always got the best stories
He has his own pod he’s slowly building his brand
Probably because he doesnt want one.
@@varsitygraphix2407 it’s too much money in that world to NOT want one..he’s just building
Cuz he a bit**
Because he has to make a few sacrifices first.
“I’m fouling you and not even a regular foul” bro don’t care he said they gotta go 😂
That shit killed me cause he was deadass. Shump hurtin niggas tryin fight
If he says they gotta go, then them mfers gotta go! 😂
Bro imagine if bron was selfish...
People would like him a lot more
@Gregski3 i know which is weird i like bron for his style of play...surgical.
Honestly if he played selfishly I don't think he would've had as many finals appearances, purely cause some of the rosters he's led there were absolute garbage. Like his 1st Cavs stint
He averaged 28 for a career not being selfish 😵💫
He is selfish though, this guy can’t play off the ball to save his life, he constantly needs the ball to make a play or score
Could listen to GP, KG and Shump talk hoops all day. There ought to be a show called OG Hoop Talk. I'd buy that channel.
Edit:
Thanks for the love guys. Alot of suggestions for panelists in the comments. My thought was a rotating cast with 1 or 2 that would be regulars. Maybe have Snoop as the host? They could pick out a guy or a team each week to talk about. Another guy for the panel could be Kenyon Martin. Workingman's baller. Show up w/a black lunch pail, cheese and balony sandwich, pack of Doritos and an orange soda. Pound it down at halftime. Then back to work. He's lowkey funny af, too.
Make suggestions about format, panel, subjects, etc, W/all the thumbs up it seems this really may have some juice. It'd be better as a podcast, though. Ballers need to be ballers without constraint. Any network or cable channel would just fck it up. Patreon based and FUBU for hardcore ballers and those who love it. If anyone out there who knows somebody who knows somebody who can make this happen? Get on it! We're all waiting, dawg! lol
Steven Jackson to complete the horseman
@@cabdragon333
💯
excuse my ignorance but who's GP?
Yes
@@JM-_-MJ I think Gary Payton.
It would have been nice if Bron was a bit more selfish and Melo took care of his physical like Bron.
I tell people all the time LeBron could have played hog ball like Kobe and MJ but he’s too much of a team first player. And Melo could have been just as athletic as Lebrun but he never worked out. A lot of wasted potential from both possibilities.
@@24KLuxuryhe most definitely could not have been just as athletic as lebron off of the pure fact that he doesn’t have lebron’s genetics working out more doesn’t change
I think Melo took care of his body just enough for his play style personally. He played bully ball so the extra weight played into that perfectly. Plus he definitely had a lot of muscle (at least in his legs for sure) underneath there cause his first step was too quick for his appearance.
Like PG said after the retirement Melo was strong and "fat" but quick which made him so hard to guard
@@24KLuxuryWhat do you mean wasted potential? Dude has 4 Rings, 10 finals appearances. Dude is doing what Jimmy Butler has been doing with multiple rosters. Selfish don’t matter he takes over the game when he needs to. He scored Ed 41 points against the warriors 2016 game 5 and still made assists and plays.
@@24KLuxuryit’s not wasted potential it’s just playing the game a different way honestly.. he is a pass first player but it doesn’t take away from the fact he can put up 29.9ppg in a season
Melo expects a baller to know the game, but LeBron it's gonna make sure you're where you need to be.
It's the difference between a leader vs. the best player. A leader will put you in the position you need to be in based what you can and cannot do. The best player will simply expect you to do it because that's how he sees it in his mind. And if you can't do it, he'll take it upon himself to do it.
@@FreePlayMode another big difference is how people see the game. Bron is a example of a analytical mind who can break it down into steps for you to easily understand. Melo is a example of someone who understands the game off pure instincts he just knows but can't explain it in a way for people to be able to understand the way he does. Bron and Melo reach the same conclusion but only one can put it into words.
That’s why I put lebron at top dawg ever rn to be able to involve your team,get boards,score on all 3 levels, Gaurd all 5 positions, and stay healthy. The most complete player ever
Nah I’ll take the 30ppg 10 time scoring champion. Top dawg?! Lmao who the fuck needs to pass the ball when ur Air goat
Lebron is da 🐐 fasho
Facts
FAX
Lmao he's definitely not a 3 level scorer when he can't shoot and he can't guard all 5 positions 😂😂😂 stop adding shit to make him look better he's not a complete player because he can't shoot
Shump always making LeBron sound like Denzel Washington 😂😂😂😂
KG and Shump both from Chicago and there’s no wonder why they both tell the best stories
Lmao bro KG from small country South Carolina my dawg 😂
South Carolina all day.... He was I Chicago for 8 months
bro fr he literally went to farragut for a year bc his mom didn’t want him in SC getting caught up in shit he either shouldn’t have been doing or the people around him was doing
Boy kg ain't from no Chicago that man from s.c!!
@@preclout1k365 that boy ain't know,
Teamwork always wins.
It's times like this when a person like Magic and the old NBA is appreciated. A man who's going to get you the ball, even when you don't realize it. On top of that, a league where you pretty much have the same teammates for 5 to 10 yrs. If your not on the same page in that time frame, I don't know what to say.
Iman & KG story telling is next level
Melo and kd have same problem they are just soo good naturally that they cannt make others better ...whereas LeBron makes players around him better ...LeBron can tell you exactly the plays , spots , timing every thing
Kd is atleast a decent playmaker. You can see that this playoffs.
Melo was a decent playmaker also but he's a pf😂😂😂
LeBron is very skilled wisely talented, a floor general, an on court couch, dimer, lock down defender at its prime, and all the other traits he has that we have known for years
@@yomommafave2997nah, Melo was a SF/SG but since his defense declined they used him to fill the 4 up
You don’t know basketball too well.
The difference between playing WITH someone and playing UNDER someone.
Melo had some mamba mentality
Nigga be quiet
You mean hero ball
@@midknightsznKobe played hero ball too it’s no different lmao
@@midknightsznwhich is mamba mentality
@@alekiakYea Except Kobe won in the playoffs
when this man talks i love it, he explains shit so smooth and makes you wanna listen
Bron is a completely different human. He sees everything that can happen, might, and what he can control all at once.
The fact that he got to play with both of them is great
Some people just ain’t got enough patience to be teaching people stuff repeatedly
This man done told this story 10 different times in the same exact way 🤦🏽♂️
There's 2 types of ppl in world, those that do, and those that teach
If you really know what you’re doing you should be able to explain it to someone else. I
But bron does and teach
U want someone to fish for you or teach you how to fish ?
No its people that create as well, and for you to create something you want people to understand you must be able to teach. You can do both
Shump started sounding like “Denzel Washington” 🤣🤣
Bron : I trust you , you can do it
Melo : just give me the ball
Thus why one has a championship and the other doesn’t
Basically 😂😂😂😂 Melo said he getting blame anyway, he gonna do it.
@onyinyekristi nah one ran to superstar after superstar ring chasing and the other just chilled out and got his. He ain't no coach, he a player.
@@EDubbz17 sipping that haterade, you should get your own commercial 😂😂
@@EDubbz17 got his hall of fame nomination but championships 0
He tells this story anytime he wants to glaze lebron I’ve seen him say this exact thing in 4 different outfits
I'm fouling not even a regular foul 😂
They asked who the coach of the Cavs was back then, somebody said "LueBron" 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
I love listening to Shump tell his stories. Does he have a podcast?
He does I can’t remember the name tho. It shouldn’t be hard to find
Oh shit tricked me, I thought that was Big Gipp for a second there lol
I love his interviews hes energetic and funny but talks great points of basketball as well as what its like working with the greats of his era
His takes are great I can totally see him on a panel as an analyst
Imagine if melo played elite defense.
Bro tells this story everywhere
Love his stories
We need a story tellers club with Shump and KG.
Most people don’t realize that KG and Shump both from Chicago
Well shit let's add Pat B in there too. And just for a curve ball. Throw Curren$y in the story telling club too.
Dont forget, Shump can rap
Shump needs his own talk show or podcast, or something. He’s such a talented storyteller.
This is why Bron could probably be a good coach in his second career.
He looks like one of the subway dwellers in john wicke
Why does iman shumpert not play in the nba anymore real talk
Injuries
Injuries & father time. Not everybody can play good in they 30s
He stinks
One is a leader & the other leads . 2 totally different things . Which is why he won his ring with the leader lol
That logic doesn't really hold up to me cause Kobe had the same mentality as Melo and won 5 rings
@@timrughubeer3391 maybe it doesnt hold up because you talking about a completely different person . Just maybe
@@elcappa1167 that response doesn't make any sense lol. Them being different people doesn't change the fact that they had similar mindsets. One just happened to win with that mindset and the other didn't. Players that lead by example can win too. Plain and simple.
For example Kobe, Kawhi, Tim Duncan, Dirk, etc. You dont have to be a floor general to lead a team to a ship. And not all floor generals win. Just look at CP3
@@timrughubeer3391because Kobe also had greats on his team. Nigga played with Shaq and got 3 rings with him.
@mekhig.9350 The context of how he got to his rings don't matter in this argument tho. Yes he played with Shaq and won 3 ships. Yes he then got 2 more with Pau. He still carried the same mentality through his entire career, and was the undeniable leader for at least 2 of those rings with the mindset that was coined as Mamba Mentality. And he's rightfully praised for it cause its highly inspiring and like I said he proves you can have that mentality and still win ships
Shump man is a top 5 story tellers of alltime
Who the other four? I’m invested.
him Melo an JR Smith need to start they own show that shit would be better then any show out!! or imagine Michael Vick Iverson & Melo
2nd option sounds like a legal case gone wrong
Shump just said a mouth full
Basically Lebron is A True Leader of men and Melo is a All time Talent
Literally talking gibberish with some music on top 😂
Just because YOU don't understand, doesn't make it gibberish just acknowledge you can't comprehend and go get a tutor..simple 👍🏾
Bill Russell looking greater and greater each passing day. 11 rings.
That boy sounds like Denzel off of training day
Shump is the Best at explaining how Lebron's mind works & his leadership experience pays🙏
Bro told this same story 49x
Both💯 Nizzles is Beast's 👹🗣️
Ayyyy I hope yall Paying Shump for these Interviews.......the man deserves it!!!
Shump needs his own podcast! i can hear him talk basketball for hours & not get bored 😂
Imagine if Bron was an actual scorer and actually had a bag on the offensive end 😱
Bron has always been a team guy. Melo is like F all that give me the ball
Fax
Shump best story teller!
The Sixth man 😂 I can't jump in yo body and do it for you shrimp🤣🤣😭💀
I love this kind of content
I fuck with Iman Shumpert, he always seems so grateful that he played with a lot of the greats, and competed at the same level as them.
In truth a lot of that difference is because at heart Lebron is a point guard. He was just born with the size and attributes of a forward but he’s an elite game manager. Melo was an all time scorer so he could see the game but couldn’t necessarily teach it like Bron.
Heard a little Denzel in there lol
I’ve heard him tell that story before about Bron. You know he’s not lying about it.
Ever since his retirement, shumpert gained so much understanding about basketball
Shump is a natural old head. That boi gon be a legend at the barbershop wit his stories
The fit 🔥 fr.
Love shump breaking shit down. he’s a brother!! ✌️🫡
I enjoy this story every time lol
One style translates to playoff wins, the other doesn't
Two different Beasts💯
Comparing a true score vs a natural passer
That coat is giving me life
Two great players. One gives you a chance and if you can’t do it, they’ll just do it for you. One breaks down the game to you, but tell you to just stand here and imma get you the ball. You’re watching both players but one is giving you a chance to become a star but you only get one shot. The other one is going to turn you into a 2K legendary corner specialist, catch and shoot specialist, and a volume specialist.
Nah you gon be open 😂
"Let me help you, help me"
Labum Jeans wants and needs help, he don't have that dog in him.
It seems you haven't seen the 2007 or 2018 playoffs at all.
@bearwithme9433 You point to two years out of what 20+, seems like you reaching 🤦🏽♂️😆
@@IamHimathy420 I pointed those out because it were the times he reached the finals. Luckily I didn't point out the fact that when he left his teams except for the heat that the team became a lottery team. Showing how bad the management of the cavs were which he spent most of his career in. Because a team can't and shouldn't become a terrible team if they were really competent in the first place. That's just random stuff though, factors like those are unnecessary because what matters in this world is full proof hardware.
@@bearwithme9433 Wtf, blah blah blah, made the playoffs SO, point is he still pussy and NEED AN WANT help.
@@bearwithme9433I have always thought he should’ve won a few championships during his stay in Cavs. Now that you explained it, that makes sense.
I can listen to this dude talk forever does he have a podcast
I see shump did his own wardrobe for the CHI
Melo on some Thanos type sh*t. I respect it.
Every time I hear ppl say Bron didn’t make his teammates better, stories like this pops up.
Shump always fresh ash
That’s a major difference
The difference between a boss vs a leader. Let me you get better so we can both be great.
Im fouling you is crazy 😂😂
I've seen Iman on like every podcast and short I swear lol
I wish coaches and staff catered to Melo like they did for Lebron. Lebron would get rid of everybody to have his system
Bro should be the narrator for the Lebron show
I legit thought he was 2 Chains the first 2 seconds of the vid 😂
It's the you goin be open for me lol
Gimme melo and all dudes with that mindset 10000% of time.
Shump needs a show he’s the best story guy
Melo is a self centered ball hug
Playing in New York there is alot of pressure. Melo had the city on his shoulders.
Why i was thinking the is 2chainz.....😂😂
He told this story like 50 times. I seen at least 5 videos with a different outfit he telling the story like the first time 😂😂😂
Anyone know where I can find this full interview ? Thanks in advance 💯
That's Melo!
“fuck outta here i got it!!”
Bruh how many times am I gonna see this today