Mekkah's FE5 Character Guide

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  • @andrewkos5560
    @andrewkos5560 5 років тому +198

    "3 Houses Leaks proven true"
    Mekkah: Hello, I'd like to spread the word of our lord and savior Cowga

    • @Greideren
      @Greideren 5 років тому +22

      Cowga did everything first

    • @roigergoololo3966
      @roigergoololo3966 5 років тому +13

      Cowga did everything, full stop.

  • @electricserge8302
    @electricserge8302 5 років тому +372

    Nobody:
    Mekkah: “Guys I’m begging y’all please play Thracia”

    • @Greideren
      @Greideren 5 років тому +25

      And it's working

    • @xuanathan
      @xuanathan 5 років тому +42

      You know what happened after the last "Play X fire emblem game"? Motherfucking echoes. Mekkkah is the new Ghast, and the inevitable thracia remake is the new Echoes.

    • @kijih6298
      @kijih6298 5 років тому +2

      @@xuanathan I didn't like echoes tbh too distant from FE 7.

    • @Hiya8partyz
      @Hiya8partyz 4 роки тому

      Ki Jih Well Echoes is a remake of Gaiden, which is considered the black sheep of the franchise. Meanwhile FE7 gameplay is very classic and basic FE gameplay in my opinion.

    • @Hiya8partyz
      @Hiya8partyz 4 роки тому

      Xuanathan Before that, we’ll get an FE4 remake, since FE5 takes place in FE4.
      Yay

  • @Xino1217
    @Xino1217 5 років тому +142

    There should be a seperate category for Ronan: Hero of our hearts

  • @aleisshiki3649
    @aleisshiki3649 5 років тому +167

    Mekkah to mangs: your rating system should be out of 10, not out of 5
    Also mekkah: makes a rating system out of 3.

  • @MetaDash
    @MetaDash 5 років тому +126

    *Mekkah hesisting on where to put Ronan*
    Kidding
    Right now Asvel and Fergus have been the champs for me

    • @zayaannashrid1374
      @zayaannashrid1374 5 років тому +9

      Fergus is Yikes levels of good. For a Forest Knight, a sword using class, he is surprisingly great.
      Great move, great stats, 5 PCC, move stars, easily gained sword ranks, and just the works.

    • @tranngoctuan8525
      @tranngoctuan8525 5 років тому +10

      Or do you mean FUCC?

    • @meisterschwert
      @meisterschwert 3 роки тому

      @@zayaannashrid1374 But... Swords are actually okay in Thracia (1-2 range has the same hit as a garbage bag except the broken magic swords)

  • @slanax97
    @slanax97 5 років тому +48

    Rule of thumb in Thracia: Anyone levels Mov, they get used. Doesn't matter how hard they are to get up to snuff :V

    • @HollowGolem
      @HollowGolem 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, my current playthrough, I've gotten REALLY lucky with move levels. One for Orsin, two for Lithis, two for Dalsin (yeah, Dalsin), and one for Asbel. It's pretty crazy.

    • @nicholastenney6300
      @nicholastenney6300 4 роки тому +2

      In my last playthrough I got 3 on Asvel. Needless to say most maps turned into the Asvel solo (even more than they were already)

    • @theruffletkid6028
      @theruffletkid6028 4 роки тому +1

      @@nicholastenney6300
      I HAD 4 ON MY FUCKING ASBEL

    • @tragghyb2673
      @tragghyb2673 4 роки тому

      I remember on my first playthrough Marty got three Mov levels in a row which made me love him, damn shame no one else got Mov levels >.>

    • @Jadanbr
      @Jadanbr 4 роки тому

      @@tragghyb2673 i ve got a move level up in Tanya but then i think Ronan died and i had to reset, but then i ve got a move level up in Fergus

  • @Pepsiman2701
    @Pepsiman2701 5 років тому +93

    Two shitposts and a good quality video in less than an hour from Mekkah?
    *God bless Cowga*

  • @Choops6969
    @Choops6969 5 років тому +229

    If I'm in "meme tier" you're in "mean tier"!

  • @scottmitchell3939
    @scottmitchell3939 5 років тому +32

    MEKKKAH! Dude all these Fe5 guides have been super helpful recently since the project exile patch was released, and this was exactly the next guide i needed!

  • @emotional_st0rm
    @emotional_st0rm 4 роки тому +32

    What in the world is this pursuit critical?
    I only know the Follow Up Critical Coefficient, short for FUCC.
    FUCC is a hidden stat possessed by characters in Fire Emblem: Thracia 776. On the second attack of a double attack, the character's Critical rate is multiplied by their FUCC. Characters with a FUCC of 0 cannot perform a critical attack on their second hit. Fergus and Mareeta have the highest FUCC values in the game at 5, while Lifis and Shannam have the lowest FUCC values at a measly 0.

  • @xravenx24fe
    @xravenx24fe 5 років тому +24

    I love that the low stat caps in Thracia and Mystery of the Emblem make every unit in those games somewhat usable. Obviously some are just kinda trash but it works really well with the fatigue system and iron manning.

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому +9

      It really puts emphasis on weapon usage as any unit can take advantage of high might and actually contribute

  • @fetacheese25
    @fetacheese25 5 років тому +50

    Jesus mekkah are you okay
    All these uploads

  • @jontyhemme9760
    @jontyhemme9760 5 років тому +19

    This is the first video that has ever put me to sleep that wasn’t a sleep inducing video. I don’t mean this in a bad way tho it’s just mekka’a voice is so relaxing

    • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
      @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa 5 років тому +1

      I fall asleep to Mekkkah's videos a lot as well! He just has a very smooth and calming voice.

  • @kmjohnny
    @kmjohnny 5 років тому +10

    Turns out Tanya is my meme unit. She got up to 9 move, and mutual support with Othin helped me a lot. Took her some time, but she got B bow ranks.

    • @vonithipathachai8449
      @vonithipathachai8449 5 років тому +1

      In one of my attempts at Thracia 776 she got crazy Str-blessed, enough so for a Knight Crest.

  • @Gerd0
    @Gerd0 5 років тому +4

    Just finished my blind run of this game so I'm finally watching this video. In 4x I started the map by having Dalsin walk forward and use a torch, revealing every enemy about to pile onto him. He somehow dodged most of the mages and came out fine. Ever since then he was MY BOY! He constantly won his coin toss attacks with hammers and even ended up being really helpful in the final map. You have your meme unit, I have mine.

  • @BowandSvent
    @BowandSvent 5 років тому +13

    >you can steal ballistas with the thief staff
    Excuse me wHaAT ThE FuCk?

    • @sincromelon2912
      @sincromelon2912 5 років тому +11

      Noobs: bAlLiStAS aRe AnNoyInG
      Thief staff: ballistas who?

    • @michaelshan22
      @michaelshan22 4 роки тому

      BowandSvent Sure, if you’re willing to use up a charge on your 5 use thief staff lol. It is a good last resort save if you messed up and one of your units is about to die from a ballista, but then you run the risk of Tina missing.

  • @helfyr9656
    @helfyr9656 5 років тому +13

    Of course you like Fergus. He looks like Forde after all

  • @weeeeeeev
    @weeeeeeev 5 років тому +4

    Oh nice, I always like unit reviews
    I do love how in this game you can make anyone good with scrolls, I wish they came back in more games

  • @justrashaad3963
    @justrashaad3963 5 років тому +9

    Thank you! I'm currently playing FE5 through the Project Exile patch! Currently on Chapter 13 and I'm loving it! Favorite units are Nanna, Lara(cause I made her a dancer and I gave her the leg ring), Pan, Mareeta, Selphina, Dalsim, Tina and Asbel.
    I use Selphina and Dalsin(with Brave Axe) religiously, I love the two of them! so much.

  • @dwbryant13
    @dwbryant13 5 років тому +4

    Another thing that makes fergus so great is his mutual support with karen.
    5 PCC higher stats and that support puts him a league above brighton even if brighton has wrath.
    Fergus is also a surprisingly good candidate for magical swords. Considering you can get 2 fire swords and a thunder sword early when fergus is the strongest sword user.

  • @blunderbus2695
    @blunderbus2695 5 років тому +14

    Karin levelled MOV twice for me in the Manster chapters so I think she's my Ronan

    • @michaelshan22
      @michaelshan22 4 роки тому +1

      Flash-Flire Same here lol. Ballistas became so much easier to deal with when you had a flier with enough range to attack them without getting hit.

  • @SPZ-gv2on
    @SPZ-gv2on 4 роки тому +5

    Yeah Mareeta is sadly alright. I would recommend her for anyone playing for the first time though. She always turns out super broken and fun albeit you do have to put in some work beforehand unlike the great tier units. Natural luna, astra from a convo, nihil from a perf, and adept after promo is so stupidly overkill when added to a 5 PCC and a personal brave killing edge. All she does is kill one enemy per phase, but she looks so flashy while doing it that it always feels worthwhile.

  • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
    @shytendeakatamanoir9740 5 років тому +8

    Tina can become a 10 move units with 25% chance to move again, which is just ridiculous.
    Give her the Dain Scroll, and watch her roll ! (This may not be the most optimized idea, but it's too fun to pass.)

  • @peter-janvanvelzen3801
    @peter-janvanvelzen3801 5 років тому +13

    Good ol' boy Mekkkah giving me my daily dose of FE5 Crack

  • @domicraft6341
    @domicraft6341 5 років тому +4

    Marty was the reason why I was interesting in checking the growth rates of the characters... I regret nothing.

  • @JP54704
    @JP54704 5 років тому +2

    The only change I would make on that list would be to put Delmund on the Great tier, I think he has enough positive traits for that.
    Outside of that, I totally agree with the placements, so I think it's a very good list overall.

  • @Infernite-qm4pv
    @Infernite-qm4pv 5 років тому +6

    For a second I thought it was Mekkah in the thumbnail.

  • @ThunderManEX
    @ThunderManEX 5 років тому +7

    Also, you should an "alright" run where you focus on using as many people on the alright tier as you can. Gets you outta comfort zone and who knows, you may find new appreciation for them like with Ronan.

    • @fishyfinthing8854
      @fishyfinthing8854 5 років тому +1

      Like Mekka said, in this Fire Emblem, everyone can be a good unit. The difference is how much effort you need. Plus with scrolls, support, paragon books and paragon cheat which can cover everyone stats.

  • @boredomkiller9985
    @boredomkiller9985 5 років тому +1

    Honestly this video just reminds me how good FE5 is. Most of the roster is not only useable but flat out great and even the meme tier characters can be made useful as I personally I found success with a third of them on my first playthrough. Ronan was great for handling some constantly spawning mages behind walls on some hard late game chapters. Great game.

  • @definitelynotshanque
    @definitelynotshanque 5 років тому +11

    Mekkah new background music please, this track is making me lose my mind.

  • @allenkeettikkal3149
    @allenkeettikkal3149 5 років тому +3

    Few seconds already and this guide is infinitely more helpful than ModelOmega's guide on FE5 units.

  • @kessler4o573
    @kessler4o573 5 років тому +14

    Mequah, you didn't account for asvel's innate weakness to master lances, or ronan's bow armor weakness

  • @paulhorneschillings1212
    @paulhorneschillings1212 5 років тому +1

    Homeros: the thing is you can promote Homeros before he's level 20 and still max a lot of stats, and the reason you would do that is so you can start using him as a heal bot. Using staves enough you can start to use some REALLY useful staves such as Physic, and maybe even Rescue. What you're left with us a multi-use magic user who's one of the few with an actual WTA against the myriad darkness users that they throw at you towards the end of the game. I say he's Great.

  • @hughborsilli6170
    @hughborsilli6170 5 років тому +9

    Now I don't want to be THAT guy, but I really think Carrion should be alright tier
    He may have really bad bases, but he starts in a chapter with a ton of easy brigands to kill and get easy exp on, and he doesn't eat up a deployment slot for that chapter either. I like to compare him to Mareeta, who also has good growths but meh bases and has a lot of easy exp when they join, except Carrion has more availability and mobility thanks to joining earlier and being a cavalier and he can use swords on horseback and indoors so he isn't a bad long term investment either. If Carrion joined later like Miranda or even the same chapter as Mareeta I'd say hes meme tier, but since he joins so early and has an easy time getting exp in that chapter and the next gaiden I think he at least deserves the alright tier.

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 5 років тому

      He can also get the elite sword to help with his training.

    • @hughborsilli6170
      @hughborsilli6170 5 років тому +1

      Well anyone can, so that's not really in his personal favor as a unit, and it's not like you need to train him to get it either since he gets it 2 chapters after he joins, but it can help him

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 років тому

      I agree

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      He joins in a chapter with easy enemies, but those enemies are easy to kill for just about anyone, he doesn't have a monopoly on them. Halvan and Ronan also rejoin for that chapter, do I put them a tier higher just because I can feed them brigands? Plus Carrion is really pathetic even against these guys. Even with a crit and a hit when using an Iron Sword, he still fails to kill them.

    • @hughborsilli6170
      @hughborsilli6170 5 років тому

      But Halvan and Ronan don't have a horse or the crazy growths that Carrion has

  • @imwatchinstuff
    @imwatchinstuff 5 років тому +4

    Mekkah with all the shenanigans today.

  • @Noctaru
    @Noctaru 5 років тому

    i couldn't finish the game on my snes , reinhardt chapter was impossible without any warp and no money , no stuff , i'll try later again after watching your videos, this one will help me

  • @glaceo3544
    @glaceo3544 5 років тому +1

    homer is actually one of the most durable units with wrath+nosferatu, once he promotes he gets enough weapon rank in light magic to use it, combine that with wrath and he will basically always survive an onslaught as long as you have a crusader scroll on him in case the enemy has a killer weapon. i used homer in my most recent ironman run and he wiped out the entire battalion of berserkers in the final chapter and as an added bonus landed the finishing blow on veld, so that was fun.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      I do like a trained Homer and Nosferatu is very good on him after promotion, but I don't think he needs Wrath very much. He already has a PCC of 5, so anything he doubles is pretty much dead to a crit. Nosferatu weighs quite a bit but he does double Dark Mages which are the most important enemies to use Nosferatu against. If you save Wrath for Homer you don't make use of it for like 6+ maps.
      Don't get me wrong, I like Homer, I think he's decent and not that hard to train. I just don't think he needs Wrath.

  • @roigergoololo3966
    @roigergoololo3966 5 років тому

    Thanks for this. It'll be useful for when I replay Thracia. This time around, I'll try to recruit as many as I can.

  • @patdes19
    @patdes19 5 років тому +2

    kinda motivated to do an alright tier playthrough

  • @ThunderManEX
    @ThunderManEX 5 років тому +3

    Ralph The Great? I didn't see that coming.

    • @zekdom
      @zekdom 5 років тому

      Yeah, Ralph was a surprise.
      It’s weird to see Asvel in a higher tier than Mareeta and Shiva, but he really is that good.

  • @rhysofsneezingdragon1758
    @rhysofsneezingdragon1758 5 років тому +2

    I'm always gonna be using my girl amalda no matter what

  • @Duothimir
    @Duothimir 5 років тому +3

    Ralf just being A Guy in an army of wacky anime characters is why I love him. He is the ancestor of Russel Bagman.

  • @ThunderManEX
    @ThunderManEX 5 років тому +3

    I spilled water when I saw you about to place Ronan a tier above Marty. Ronan > Marty is probably one argument I'd challenge you on.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      I ended up putting them in the same tier. But I really think Ronan is a lot easier to turn into a viable combat unit than Marty. Marty basically needs the Brave Axe to ever ORKO anything.

    • @ThunderManEX
      @ThunderManEX 5 років тому +1

      @@Mekkkah Yeah I know, I saw the whole video. In response to Ronan is a lot easier to turn into a viable combat unit than Marty... that depends. I think you may be letting the memes cloud your judgment here.
      You pretty much start off by admitting how little use Archers have in the game as they don't even have the ability to Capture. Marty has that ability easily with the Brave Axe which is available early on while Ronan tends to rely on Adept procs to be able to 1RKO (and from some of your videos I've seen that he can't even do that sometimes) up until the Brave Bow which comes much later by comparison. The 2 characters have their issues for sure but the best solution to Ronan's primary issue, STR, comes from the Noba scroll obtained extremely late while Marty's SKL and SPD problems are solved with just his promotion and you can add Sety and Odo scroll to basically put him at +1 SKL and SPD every 2 levels. Post promotion, Marty is probably out-damaging Ronan when he uses bows (which he doesn't need to) and being a unit that can retaliate at melee with a decent defense growth, Marty can make use of Wrath and survive which is something you know Ronan can't do as an archer.
      If we're strictly talking LTC then Ronan probably wins for sure thanks to his absurd move for a tier 1 infantry but in regular play/in a vacuum? I'm certain a tank like Marty thrives more after a few levels which isn't difficult to do.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      @@ThunderManEX Marty's ability to capture is very very shaky even with the Brave Axe. Ronan's lack of reliability is a problem but it's nothing compared to what Marty faces. You can never rely on him hitting anything. Also, while the Brave Axe comes earlier than the Brave Bow, Marty is far from the only person who gets good use out of it. If Marty uses the Brave Axe, other axe users like Dagdar or Halvan if you're into him are much worse off. I can get Brave Axe utility without using Marty. However, the only other units who can use the Brave Bow for most of the game are pretty bad/mediocre (Tanya, Selfina), so odds are you're not getting use out of the Brave Bow without Ronan until Xavier joins. And Xavier can still do pretty well with a Master Axe + Wrath, he's not as dependent on the Brave Axe as say Halvan or Dagdar (lategame) is.
      Ronan's strength is low, but it's good enough to start ORKOing most generics after promotion at least. Marty might still have speed issues even after promoting.

    • @zekdom
      @zekdom 4 роки тому

      This thread is criminally underrated.

  • @juicedkpps
    @juicedkpps 4 роки тому +1

    Me, playing the game for the first time, half-blind: I think I'm doing pretty well... man, there's gotta be something I missed, tho.
    Mekkah: Dean gets the dragon lance, you have to visit a specific house to...
    Me: ... Oh

  • @oscelios2703
    @oscelios2703 5 років тому +16

    Meme tier run when?

    • @rayquazathenoodledragon9630
      @rayquazathenoodledragon9630 5 років тому +1

      Sety, Odo, Fala, Baldur and Ullir scroll and Marty becomes god

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 4 роки тому

      @@rayquazathenoodledragon9630 sety, odo, Fala, Baldur and Ullir scroll and everyone becomes god

    • @rayquazathenoodledragon9630
      @rayquazathenoodledragon9630 4 роки тому +2

      @@kentknightofcaelin4537 those scrolls only boost speed and skill some characters like Asvel, Sara, Linoan, Homer, Mareeta, Ilios, etc. don't really need them

  • @shogus0046
    @shogus0046 5 років тому +10

    Maybe you should do a WAIFU on Leif?

  • @doc6161
    @doc6161 4 роки тому +1

    I started my first Thracia playthrough the other day, on chapter 5, Nanna got 3 level ups in a row with no stat increase

  • @angeryroshea2254
    @angeryroshea2254 5 років тому +6

    I sense a hicks

  • @flightsimx
    @flightsimx Місяць тому

    My Olwen was an enemy phase beast, she could not be killed, that Vantage + Dire Thunder combo is crazy. I just put a defensive boosting crusader scroll on her from the start and she was one of my best units. She wasn’t very hard to train either just feed her kills on enemy phase and just watch

  • @dryzalizer
    @dryzalizer 5 років тому +1

    So there are exactly as many Great units as Alright and Meme units combined...nice.

  • @kentknightofcaelin4537
    @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 років тому +7

    I think Carrion and Hicks belong in alright tier

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому +4

      Carrion a bit more than Hicks as in his joining chapter you are fighting brigands so he faces very little danger , giving some time to gain levels
      Hicks can be usable and a mount is always welcome but axe knights are kinda meh even outdoors as axes aren't the most accurate
      Usable but not great

  • @brohacks9193
    @brohacks9193 5 років тому

    have to admit I haven't played FE5 yet, played FE sword of seals all up until shadows of valentia several times and fire emblem 4 once long time ago. I think once I start my staycation from work next week I may download tharcia to play and watch all your fe5 videos more than just meme ronan moments. Once I play FE5 for myself I'll watch all your videos alongside it Mekkah. just didn't want to spoil game for me before I play it.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      My beginners guide is spoiler free so you should check that one out when you're gonna play it. Have fun!

    • @brohacks9193
      @brohacks9193 5 років тому

      @@Mekkkah thanks Mekkkah, I can now say I got a reply from you. I think playing FE5 for first time will be fun before I get three houses. I'll be sure to check the beginners guide out, want FE5 to be fun but don't want to go too blind into the game. I can always ask Mangs for advice as well if I'm stuck.

  • @paulhorneschillings1212
    @paulhorneschillings1212 5 років тому +1

    Tina: She can immediately steal Veld's Stone tome, if you give her Holy Water and put her on a magic tile.

  • @pita_akm
    @pita_akm 5 років тому

    Don't forget Delmud's charisma skill. Abusing support/charisma stacking trivialises any area of the game you have have time to set it up - defending choke points, moving through siege range, boss killing. Just so useful.

  • @andrewfleming8700
    @andrewfleming8700 5 років тому

    Good to know I didn't make too many mistakes benching good units on my first play though

  • @SweatinSteve
    @SweatinSteve 5 років тому +7

    I was wondering how good Dashin is generally considered, to find out he’s a meme! He leveled move 3 times in a row for me when I first got him and I knew I had to give him some favoritism after that. He absolutely wrecks everything at this point lol.

  • @nypad5
    @nypad5 5 років тому

    my bro Ronan needs a little bit of help maybe 1 scroll for sure, but man the fucking movement stars on this dude and adept make him such a great archer.

  • @UnlimitedMrX
    @UnlimitedMrX 5 років тому +2

    I haven't watched the video yet but I expect Ronan to be at the top

  • @illialidur8244
    @illialidur8244 5 років тому +1

    I haven’t watched this, but I imagine I have been playing FE5 wrong even without watching this...

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +1

      oh no. you mean you didn't have fun?

    • @illialidur8244
      @illialidur8244 5 років тому +2

      Mekkkah actually I’m loving FE 5. My Lifis has gotten mega blessed and has 16 build. I am using a few meme units, love some Ronan, but uh, yeah changing up my army for sure.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +5

      @@illialidur8244 ok if you had fun then i think you played the game right. i was this close to revoking your fire emblem license.

    • @illialidur8244
      @illialidur8244 5 років тому

      Mekkkah yeah there isn’t really a wrong way to play an FE game, but I was using a few units I thought were good and vice versa. At least now I am educatedly using terrible units.

  • @kentknightofcaelin4537
    @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 років тому +2

    Now we need a class guide

  • @fishyfinthing8854
    @fishyfinthing8854 5 років тому

    Mareeta is easy to train. On chapter 14 you can send her to the right gate. Have Leif with the King Sword support her for more avoid. Then watch her killing waves of enemies. Make sure you watch out for broken weapons, stack more scrolls if you want, give her paragon book if you wish her to reach lv 20 in one chapter. By the time Loptir Mages appears, if she got good stats, she can handle them all.

  • @LLL417
    @LLL417 2 місяці тому

    Great: Othin, Safy, Rifis, Machua, Brighton, Shiva, Lara, Felgus, Karin, Asvel, Nanna, Carrion, Robert, Olwen, Mareeta, Dean, Eda, Linoan, Sety

  • @Arden2000
    @Arden2000 5 років тому +1

    Great list. didnt disagree with anybody

  • @skydragoonslifer5798
    @skydragoonslifer5798 4 роки тому

    A lot of FE4 and 5 love in FEH

  • @vishuprathikanti9352
    @vishuprathikanti9352 4 роки тому

    I think Misha is pretty great, I'd put her above Xavier. She's Amalda minus staff utility and with a little more magic, which isn't terrible at all. Very useful.

  • @WOLigma
    @WOLigma 3 роки тому

    I just painfully crawled my way through chapter 4 everyone died 😭 this is my first run and am playing (mostly) blind so I didn’t know what to expect so rip everyone in that chapter. Except the doodoo armor unit he lived ofc

  • @thewindysage1538
    @thewindysage1538 5 років тому

    One thing you forgot about is Dermott having charm
    It can contribute to his utility as if you deploy the hezul siblings and a kind sword wielder that's 30 hit and avoid you could give a unit
    He is by no means amazing as he joins kinda late but charm really rounds him out and gives him a little bit of passive support to give

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      I did forget Charm. Probably mostly because I never really needed to make use of it, lol.

  • @カーツサニャKatsuSanya
    @カーツサニャKatsuSanya 5 років тому

    you should do more character guides, Im not a good representative of the majority of any fanbase but I personally would enjoy more of these, maybe do FE6 or 7 next

  • @xuanathan
    @xuanathan 5 років тому

    Karin has really good combat with the Fire Sword, if you give it to Lifis at the end of chapter 3. Her base magic of 7 helps a lot.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +2

      It takes 30 attacks for Karin to get to C swords, and then 50 more to get to B for Fire Sword. That's just not realistic for Manster.

    • @xuanathan
      @xuanathan 5 років тому +1

      Mekkkah
      Dang completely forgot, I thought the fire sword was C.

  • @limitlessapocalypse2702
    @limitlessapocalypse2702 5 років тому +1

    This is going to be great.

  • @CosmicToad5000
    @CosmicToad5000 5 років тому +1

    I've just gotten to 8x, and no one has been downright awful, mvps have definitely been The Axe bros, Fergus, Asbel & Brighton.
    Getting a brave axe and a personal 1-2 rng high crit in the first chapter was pretty crazy, plus vantage and wrath have never been this good. Nice to see the early game fighters be good for once.
    Fergus, Asbel and Brighton carried Manster along with Leif for me (he has 8 mov, pretty nice to have a high mov footlocked lord) especially once we got out of dismounted swordlocked hell.
    Pretty much the only units I haven't been impressed with at all so far are Marty & Lara. Marty feels like the usual axe bros you get in most games and Lara just feels like a worse Lithis (doesn't help my Lithis got blessed with 3 con levels and can steal bows and swords)

    • @royceabshire2453
      @royceabshire2453 5 років тому

      I think this is the only FE game other than Radiant Dawn that I actually liked the fighters.

    • @royceabshire2453
      @royceabshire2453 5 років тому

      I scroll abused my Lara along with giving her elite to pump her up to lv 20 thief fighter only to find out after the fact that she loses ambush and a movement point when she promotes to dancer.

    • @CosmicToad5000
      @CosmicToad5000 5 років тому +1

      Royce Abshire yeah, boyd & nolan are pretty much the only decent axe fighters besides These two. I have a soft spot for Lot though, even though i'd say Wade & Lot are probably the worst fighters in the series. They just can't seem to give us both good unit stats and actually accurate axes in the same game.

    • @royceabshire2453
      @royceabshire2453 5 років тому

      @@CosmicToad5000 Honestly if they had just reintroduced the pugi or something similar that only fighters could use in the other FE games that may atleast make it more rewarding to use them. If given the chance to use/ train fighters as opposed to bandits/pirates that can promote to beserker with the built in +25/30 crit it's just an unfair competition.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      Do keep in mind the Brave Axe is not Halvan's personal weapon. But it does let him kill just about anything.

  • @burnttoast4617
    @burnttoast4617 5 років тому +1

    Haven't watched the whole video but I swear to Cowga if Marty is any tier lower than great...

  • @theowlman2418
    @theowlman2418 5 років тому +1

    Tldw: Staffs? Yes.

  • @LoudWaffle
    @LoudWaffle 5 років тому +4

    Just started Thracia last night, why do I keep missing 98%s? The game is bugged, Mekkah.
    /s

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому

      First don't blame the rng
      second Thracia uses single en so the hit displayed it's the hit rate you have so there's that 2 %miss chance
      I mean it should be pretty rare but it's definitely possible

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 5 років тому +3

      /s means sarcasm

    • @royceabshire2453
      @royceabshire2453 5 років тому

      @@LoudWaffle thank you for explaining that! Sometimes it's really hard to convey sarcasm through text.

  • @Abundy
    @Abundy 5 років тому

    Noob with only one playthrough here: I felt Homer was really easy to get to promotion and B tier Light so he could tank stuff pretty reliably with the Nosferatu

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому

      His starting chapter can be a little hectic although paragon can really puss him forward to catch up and promote
      Nosferatu shouldn't be used on a unit exclusively but he is probably it's best user as linoan tends to focus on staves more

  • @EZog58
    @EZog58 5 років тому

    I think I may need to challenge you on Mareeta being Alright instead of Great, Mekkah.
    Like you said, her bases are pretty meh, but she joins on a chapter with lots of easy kills set up for her by design and her growths are fantastic. If you care about making her very strong early, simply having Karin fly over to her with any combination of some scrolls, the Elite Sword, or the Elite manual and she will be one of your better units by the chapter's end without much issue.
    Even without this extra investment, Mareeta's sword is perhaps one of the best Prf weapons for boss killing due to it's Brave and Nihil effects, and with so many uses she can secure one round KOs on most non-boss enemies at base, meaning that's easy XP for her. I know you mentioned earlier availability would secure her the spot, but when her joining chapter is designed to feed Mareeta specifically easy levels, I think that helps to offset her poor bases quite well.
    And we aren't even counting that you need her to recruit Galzus anyway, so by training her to at least survive in Endgame you get two amazing units for the cost of training one. Just my opinion, of course.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +2

      Treatment like Karin flying over with a bunch of items for her alone is the kind of thing that would make any Meme unit useable. Look at the units in Great again: how many of them need that?
      Training Mareeta for a long time in Ch12 also requires you take a long time in it, which means you gotta sit out all of Salem's sleep staff or capture him quickly and then sit on the gate doing nothing. And by occupying Karin this way, you're also making it harder to get to the upper village (with the Silence staff) before it gets destroyed.
      With regards to her bosskilling potential, giving scrolls to Mareeta might help her grow more quickly but it takes a lot to grow out of her terrible base bulk. This puts her at the mercy of the many Master Lance using bosses which will 2HKO her if she fails to get a Luna crit before they counterattack. Since her crit is hard capped at 25 before the counterattack, this is not a guarantee, and a likely failure for her. And it's not like bosskilling is a niche that players suddenly need fulfilling now, they've likely already established a character that does this well, usually Asbel.
      You need Mareeta to recruit Galzus, but you do not need a trained Mareeta to recruit Galzus. It's very easy to recruit him safely with a base level Mareeta. I usually disarm her, talk to him, and then she gets captured on enemy phase. While captured she still gives Galzus the support bonus so he wrecks face. This is actually easier than Mareeta being armed because then she would fail to counter all the 2-range enemies there (if she's using her own sword). And no, Mareeta does not get credit for all the work Galzus puts in in endgame. That credit goes to Galzus.

    • @kmjohnny
      @kmjohnny 5 років тому

      I do love Mareeta, and what she offers puts her into Great tier for me, but Mekkah made a fair point on why she is just an alright unit. Paragon Sword is for her in my runs, and not for Carrion - but the time she joins she really need some level ups to catch up, and I always had something for myrmidons in Fire Emblem in general. The other choice for her role would be Trude, because he's a sword user with better bulk and Nihil skill - having Nihil on Mareeta's weapon and the Luna skill in her set makes her a better boss killer if you are ready to invest into her - the only Luna book is on the B route, so good luck getting that for Trude. Defineately get her the Astra too, if either of those skills trigger, you enemy is most likely dead.
      Sure Asvel can be a boss killer too, but it's not bad to have more than one. Fatigue is a thing, and the final chapter brings 6 boss level enemies to you right away.

    • @EZog58
      @EZog58 5 років тому

      @@Mekkkah First I want to say thanks for the detailed response, you had to talk about a lot of units in the video so I know you weren't able to get to such a hot topic for debate like Mareeta in nearly as much detail as you did here. Now I feel like I understand your arguments better.
      I also want to preface this by saying that I actually have not played the last few maps of the game. I was busy at the time and eventually just want to restart again with the new patch. Because of this I did not know where Galzus spawns and how easy he was to recruit, so I assumed that he may be in an area where only a somewhat trained Mareeta would survive long enough to recruit him. So I do rescind my comment there, my argument about Galzus does not hold water.
      One thing that I want to ask for this list is, what is the assumption of player skill and experience? Is this list for new players so they know who is better to watch out for while they play? Or is it for experienced players looking to play optimally? Usually Tier lists are for the latter, but this video felt a bit like the former.
      If I am following that logic, most newer players will not be aware of strategies to clear Mareeta's joining chapter efficiently. They will more than likely be eating Salem's sleep uses as they cautiously make their way through the Fog, which does mean the chapter will take some time. In this instance, Mareeta will be all alone at the southwest portion, so those kills are hers alone which (at least on Paragon mode) will trigger her good growths and allow to improve signifiantly. Even scroll-less, she will get fast enough that most enemies that are not bosses will have trouble hitting her, which does make her Great as a regular combat unit in my opinion. Her movement star as well as perfect PC make her excellent for practically deleting enemy units on player phase with her Prf. Whether that is useful or not is subjective, but it is still fact that she is great at Player Phase combat even early on.
      That being said, I do agree with you that her bulk does need scrolls to fix, and Master Lance bosses will be out of her reach at least until promotion, which is something Asbel does not have much issue with. Mareeta will likely only shine if the player managed to lose Asbel, and even then like you said there are still other units who can bosskill well. In fact, I would agree that her bulk does hold her back enough that I would rank her near the lower part of Great, if you decided to order them.
      Again, if this list was made for new players, I think she is a possible candidate to move up because she practically owns all of the bandits in her starting area as free XP for those players. If this is from an optimal play standpoint, she has glaring issues and belongs in Alright.
      Could we at least agree that, if you ranked these units in their tier, she would be on the higher end of Alright near Great? I just believe that she is a unit that should not be seen as the same as say Glade or Olwen overall.

  • @cordeliafrey9950
    @cordeliafrey9950 5 років тому +1

    i had a leif with like 9 move once it was the best

  • @paulhorneschillings1212
    @paulhorneschillings1212 5 років тому +1

    Marita: Her personal Brave sword as well as Astra she can get with Shanam, in addition to that you can easily level her up in chapter 15 with all the enemy bandits gives her the needed boost to get to Great.

  • @マリー-v4p
    @マリー-v4p 3 роки тому

    Mekkah do you think it would be possible to get A staves for Nanna with a lot of m grinding. And would it be worth giving her the magic ring especially if give her wrath

  • @PallaEmblem
    @PallaEmblem 5 років тому +2

    Plz. Ronan can ORKO Rein at base str with the brave bow and an adept proc.

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому

      Maybe I'm running the numbers wrong but he doesn't.
      His attack with brave how is 18
      Reinhardt has 12 defense so each hit does 6 damage
      48hp-6damagex6hits=12 hp remaining
      Did I miss a factor that makes him hit 2 more times?

    • @thewindysage1538
      @thewindysage1538 5 років тому

      It probably was a joke but I'm legitimately curious

    • @PallaEmblem
      @PallaEmblem 5 років тому

      I was factoring in the +2 strength on promotion.

    • @BluBoulzor
      @BluBoulzor 5 років тому

      ​@@thewindysage1538 Maths and number isn't everything in life. Reinhardt is probably pissing himself in front of a true predator like Ronan. Not to mention Rein the magician cannot hope to beat Ronan the mage killer, crit dimethunder would do like 3 dmg tops and he's too scared to approach Ronan with his sword anyways.
      Everybody in Freege knows of the Blue and white death god of the battlefield.
      Rumor is he defended a whole mansion by himself while the knights and frontliners were pissing themselves hiding in fear.

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      @@thewindysage1538 Palla Emblem probably assumed base + promo gains, which gives Ronan +2 strength. That results in 5x2 extra damage. idk where the last bit comes from.

  • @mechamonkeymancityboat7785
    @mechamonkeymancityboat7785 5 років тому +12

    Hicks: okay bases, mount
    "He is a meme"
    Mareeta: bad bases, low joining level
    "Alright"

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +28

      A mount is not autopilot to greatness in this game. Indoor maps exist, and Hicks is terrible in them. Hicks also has no real purpose in a lot of mid/late outdoor maps due to the game's large amount of Warps available, and he also has some combat issues (hit and AS, mostly).

    • @leemeyer9395
      @leemeyer9395 4 роки тому

      The AS is so bad on Hicks

  • @Percevalko
    @Percevalko 4 роки тому

    Robert's bases are only slightly lower than Selphina, and he also has 3 FCC compared to Selphina's 1, and he has 7 less levels. I wouldn't put him in Meme tier.

    • @sadagusfate
      @sadagusfate 3 роки тому

      It's basically just becuse of her good bow rank that selphina is useable, which he doesn't have

    • @murderedx8018
      @murderedx8018 2 роки тому

      Being lower leveled, especially in that point in the game keeps him from promoting longer. The gains are really nice and selphina is closer to getting them

  • @dwbryant13
    @dwbryant13 5 років тому +1

    I read your tier list from 2009 decided to use hicks and he got 20 in everything but 5 magic before promoting

    • @dwbryant13
      @dwbryant13 5 років тому

      With sety and odo, imo those scrolls are not a huge sacrifice to let him use when you get him, because asbell doesnt need either.

    • @dwbryant13
      @dwbryant13 5 років тому

      Hicks is the best Dragon axe user, and is supported by leaf.

    • @dwbryant13
      @dwbryant13 5 років тому

      with a scrolled Hicks you can take the Master axe and Tornado tome on the chapter dean joins

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +1

      Wow, it’s almost as if a great deal of favoritism and using only personal experience doesn’t give you a good idea of how good the unit really is!

  • @sincromelon2912
    @sincromelon2912 5 років тому +4

    Mareeta just alright? but she's carrying almost all the game and I'm almost at the end D:

    • @fishyfinthing8854
      @fishyfinthing8854 5 років тому +1

      Sincro Melon one my other run, I have a 9 mov Mareeta. No other Fire Emblem makes building characters this enjoy able where human leg can be faster than horse

    • @SPZ-gv2on
      @SPZ-gv2on 4 роки тому

      @Ced von Noish Try 12 move asbel. Gave him paragon. His reward for leveling move so much was me giving him the -boots- leg ring. Capped magic, skill, and speed by chapter 9.

  • @Juan-zs6jt
    @Juan-zs6jt 5 років тому +1

    But Mekkkah, I killed Veld with Tanya.

  • @salem1451
    @salem1451 5 років тому +1

    Is the fe5 tier list still coming though?

  • @BlazingRaptor
    @BlazingRaptor 5 років тому +2

    Miraculously, my karin ended up having a str stat and became a capable combat unit. Don't ask me how she grew str and 1 mov in her first 5 levels.

  • @angeryroshea2254
    @angeryroshea2254 5 років тому

    I always get a good ronan, my first one was strength blessed, my second one had amazing stats all around, and my thrid one had 20 move.

  • @thomsawyer
    @thomsawyer 5 років тому

    Mareeta is fantastic! Why risk Leif getting killed on Raydrick when she can easily kill him. Having Leif, Galzus surround her grants close t0 90% avoid. Throw in Nanna or Delmud and it gives her 100% avoid. Plus the bittersweet revenge....

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому

      Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. Leif is not at risk of dying to Reidrick as long as he has a scroll and you don't forget to heal him or something. And Mareeta is far from the only or the best person vs Reidrick. Fergus, Nanna and Dermott exist, and even if they're somehow unfit, there's Galzus right there capable of ORKOing him with Astra/Luna/Armorslayer.

  • @imwatchinstuff
    @imwatchinstuff 5 років тому

    Hoping for a FE5 WAIFU soon.

  • @MannuXyzz
    @MannuXyzz 4 роки тому

    Do Navvarre have blood ties whit
    Karel and shannam ?

  • @emb1
    @emb1 5 років тому

    12:38 Karen left with the kids ;(

  • @カーツサニャKatsuSanya
    @カーツサニャKatsuSanya 4 роки тому +1

    if this isnt a tier list then why is it in the tier lists playlist

  • @derkuchenmacher1455
    @derkuchenmacher1455 5 років тому

    oH BoI A FiRE emBlEm ThRhAciA 776 TiEr liSt!

  • @boser2562
    @boser2562 5 років тому +4

    So exactly 50% of the units in this game are "SPECTACULAR" think that's above average for Kaga emblem

  • @ihave2cows
    @ihave2cows 5 років тому +1

    I would love to play thracia
    if I had the rom

  • @serpentreed7332
    @serpentreed7332 5 років тому +1

    Okay so funny story, I forgot to have a unit captured for 21x and when they sent me into the chapter I suddenly realized at some point I left Macha and Brighton behind and never realized it. For that reason they belong in meme tier for me

  • @Mephil
    @Mephil 3 роки тому +1

    I like FE5 more than FE4, is that strange?

  • @joshadamson6874
    @joshadamson6874 4 роки тому

    I would like a more in depth look at what you think about thracia, i started playing with FE7 and then played only FE8 for a long time. Ive now played a fair amount of FE6 and am dipping my toes into thracia 776, but it has been really tough going and ive even had to reset my run due to losing several crucial units. Your thoughts on efficient resource allocation (scrolls/exp/brave wep) would also be really nice. I want to know if I can use dagdar with scrolls, on my first run he got no stats first level but his second level he gained a movement point!

  • @mourossonero
    @mourossonero 5 років тому

    I lost Ronan in Thracia Fog, I decided not to restart because I think I'll get by without him :/
    Thanks for the vid Mekkah

    • @louisryes
      @louisryes 5 років тому +1

      Mourossonero oof, not restarting for Ronan? That’s a sin right there

    • @geenobe9941
      @geenobe9941 5 років тому +3

      Sin? You mean Pitfall.

    • @BluBoulzor
      @BluBoulzor 5 років тому +3

      He got lost in the fog but ended up in 3-13