"For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith. I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death, so that one way or another I will experience the resurrection from the dead!" Philippians 3:9b-11
"I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” - Jesus, John 16:33
"Dear brothers and sisters, when troubles of any kind come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing." James 1:2-4
My brother your time will come nd you will understand all this questions you want to know,He is the spirit and those who understand Him they are of Spirit.
Tayo the way you are trying to clarify is not what Vuyo said, he was speaking about in Christianity he did not dwell into the other religions,,, amadlozi, Islam and the rest,,, no he was speaking about the church where we are told to pray and expect to receive but that doesn't come forth. Pastors and their cronies are the only ones benefitting. I hope you will understand the angle of my interjection. Let's focus on Christianity and it's preached promises to the poor and the background poverty,,, they never receive but the connected with the rich background testifying on a lie on what made them rich and say it's through God when it's not but it's their proceeds from family businesses and or other RAF funds and some from crime, I hope you get me. I listened to Vuyo and I know him personally and we have discussed about this before with him
"Instead, be very glad-for these trials make you partners with Christ in his suffering, so that you will have the wonderful joy of seeing his glory when it is revealed to all the world." 1 Peter 4:13
"So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children. Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”For his Spirit joins with our spirit to affirm that we are God’s children. And since we are his children, we are his heirs. In fact, together with Christ we are heirs of God’s glory. But if we are to share his glory, we must also share his suffering." - Romans 8:15-17
1. I'm yet to find the true doctrines of God. 2. Religion has nothing to do with your success. You rightfully said poverty is across all Religion. 3. A Person's concept of God is what determines their success. 4. I think punishment scripture is incorrectly interpreted. I can't be punished for someone's wrong doing, What happens then to my free will/ free agency.
"These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold-though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world." - 1 Peter 1:7
People are in wrong churches & following pastors who dont even serve God. Vuyo my brother i get you. Seek God my brother & forget about these false pastors false churches. Have a personal relationship with God and read his word and be born again. God himself will lead you where he is. Let no one take your money because we serve a living God who owns gold & silver & who wants to bless & prosper us❤
God is a strategic God,our problem is that we do God's things on our way, this is why the ship is sinking people are falling,fake pastors are rising,God is able bota if you hear the truth not the bible verses,Jesus said I brought the truth on earth not the bible verses and the truth shall set you free.John 5v39
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. - Hebrews 6:4-6
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must give up your own way, take up your cross, and follow me. 25 If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it." - Matthew 16:24
It's sad to hear a grown man thinking that being a Christian or Christianity is religion. Jesus has never taught people to be religious. Instead, He reconciled us with God so we can be one with God. Now, God answers people according to the measure of their faith. The scripture says in James 1:22 (But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.) And in James 2:26 (For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.) These scriptures are clear. We must also put in work in whatever goals we set in life, whether it be studies, gym, work, or whatsoever it maybe God will answer you according to the effort you put in your faith. Like a woman who suffered for 12 years with blooding, she had faith when she saw Jesus Christ, but she also had to put in effort by crawling and pushing her way towards Jesus Christ just to teach His garment for her to be healed. These are some mysteries a carnal mind can not comprehend. Jesus Christ doesn't care whether you go to church or not, He only cares about your soul and spirit. This is the reason all His teachings are about spiritual realization and uplifting of your soul to reach self-actualization "which is Christ in you" so you can be unstoppable in life. No mountain will be high enough, no weapons strong enough to destroy you. This is the true Christinity. Not some religious doctrines that are used to enslave the people.
I would use the same argument to discredit African Spirituality, Islam, Hinduism etc. His argument doesn’t discredit Christianity, he used emotions rather than logic and scripture. It is as though before Christianity, Africa had no poverty, slavery, rape etc, we love to act like Africa was perfect before Christianity Thank you Tayo for sharing the video, I enjoy such
The part of wisdom really hit me hard. The first thing I noticed about Vuyo speaking is that he lacks a lot of knowledge. I think the key to these issues is to first understand the character of God and understands how he works. God is not a person and we shouldn't question him like he's one of us. Proverbs says we shouldn't lean on our own understanding and we should trust him. Another one is Isaiah 55:8-9 " “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.".
Christianity is hard , but at the end is worth it. Lets not loose our faith in God because of false churches. Hes telling ths truth but God is real tlheng 😢😞🙏. Seek Him & you will find Him. We suffer because of the curse of sin committed by the first 2 people. Otherwise sufferings will always be there
LOL!!!! Well, he's not wrong. We do suffer worse than the unbelievers. But it's a test of Faith, test of strength and building of character to that of Jesus Christ. Yes, everything will seem to fall apart and Implode around you. This walk is not for the weak, it's not for the whishy washy, not for the lukewarm. You're either in or out. I too accused God of favoritism, but was quickly convicted by the Holy Spirit. It is disobedience and Sin that seperates us from Him. Also, He does not owe us Anything. Prosperity Churches gives the complete wrong teachings with their Pastors and Preachers who does not carry God's annointing but deem it fit to stand on the Pulpit spewing such Falsities. Our mere Salvation is the Ultimate Gift, being part of His flock and entry into His Covenant. Anything else is mere Blessings upon whom He chooses to bestowe . 'I shall have mercy on whomever I chose...' He should study scripture for himself and stop relying on Pastors or churches who only give false info to their congregants. - God's Speed
There are some level of hypocrisy when comes to worshippers especially with interpretations of Old and New tastament. We have to acknowledge that christianity/bible brought so much instabilities in our families, villages, schools, government and so forth, while brought certain level of stabilty to colonial settlers n certain aristocratic individuals. To refer to vuyo and you, the question becomes, do we achieve things because we are worshippers of certain religion or tradition or through our own will? Do we need to give credits to god for achieving great and leave the suffering perpetuating in the world to satan? SA is above 85% christian population by 2022 stats, and the remaining 15 is accounted by other religions and traditional believers, while 50% of population are living under poverty-stricken society. They have to migrate to towns and so forth while leaving those they love behind in suffering and this trends keep going up n up. So i believe, if you don't prepare, plan, research and take action there is nothing that will fall from anywhere irregardless of whether you insulted jesus last night, or loves him dearly. You only increase your chances by takinh action. So there are some level of Christianity involvement in our society that divided, and worsen/degraded our society. Especially when comes to identity individual people in society or tribe and answering the question of ,"who am I?. People are brainwashed, manipilated and consciously blackmailed to acknowledge their roots especially within family, schools, communities and towns bcz of Christianity god who is holy and doesn't need any external interference. So directly or indirectly, Christianity contributes 85% to SA achievements and suffering
My sister i agree with you. Suffering has nothing to do with any kind of religion. Hence some of us decided to just be bcos loving God does not make a difference, we all go through seasons. Christianity can be harmful, look at the false prophets, how they take people's money and leave them poorer than they found them. I know someone who nearly commited suicide cos their pastor graped them. How is a lay man supposed to know who is false and who is real. And what happens when you fall into the hands of a scammer on the name of a pastor. Christianity and african spirituality are 2 sided of the same coin.
I don't understand why you say that we suffer because of the mistakes of our forefathers. Doesn't the blood of Christ exempt a Christian from those curses? And if Jesus won't deliver a child of God from those curses then what's the point of being in Him? Also, can we stop acting like answering our prayers is not literally what God promises to do for us?? It's not "using" God, it's actually accepting His invitation to ask Him for things. So why can't we express disappointment when He doesn't do what He said He will do?
You need to break those evil alters your forefathers raised first before you can enjoy the fruits of your labour(speaking from experience). God has already blessed us but these spirits that got into our bloodlines are the ones opposing your success. The are laws in the spirit and satan is always taking advantage us when we break these principles. Unfortunately, our parents break these laws on our behalfs and we suffer because we have their DNA in us.
Dabula is a normal person on just like any one of us.quit Christianity but don't quit Christ. Let me remind you there is no celebrity in God. We are all equal. And Hell has got lot of celebrity who rejected Jesus Christ on earth. Don't join them cause hell is not a joke.all your arguments are empty and unfounded. YOU MADE A POWERFUL CONCLUSIVE STATEMENT MY SISTER. GOD BLESS YOUm
To follow Christ doesn't mean to be poor, it means you rich and the Lord Jesus Christ has taken us out of the curses of the law as in Galatians 3:13, those curses in Deuteronomy 28 from verse 15 to the last verse in Deuteronomy 28. I would say people only focus on riches not the Lord Jesus Christ. Most Christians don't want to work and fear failure but Christ says we winners. People should have Faith and move with God. Focus on Christ and wealth comes but your eyes will be on the Lord Jesus Christ not money.
The difference is, Christianity claims to be the one true religion from all the other religions. Why the one true God won't feed his own people? Is he limited? Or maybe the whole thing is a lie?
I don't think He's getting the point... Christianity is not the set of rules. The moment you want to keep grace and law it says a lot about how to you view His Holiness. It's either you receive grace and have life or you follow the law and die to sin. But this is what a surface mindset of a person who doesn't read their Bible, but rely on the church to read the Bible for them. I pray for him.
True. You cannot come to God because we want wealth. You are a thief yourself and you wanna use God for your own personal gain. God wants us to get to know him. This is like getting into a relationship because of what your partner can provide for you. He wants the prosperity gospel let him go.
Once you have an encounter with Jesus not religion you will know the reason why. I mean the encounter with Christ not church not religion. I pray you meet Him before it's too late brother.
It is a pity that fame or stardom gets into a persom and disable his ability to reason😮 rationaly , hence the codswallop he has given as anwers for leaving Chistianity.
Even if you left Christianity, our God will never change.
"For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith. I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death, so that one way or another I will experience the resurrection from the dead!" Philippians 3:9b-11
"I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” - Jesus, John 16:33
"Dear brothers and sisters, when troubles of any kind come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing." James 1:2-4
My brother your time will come nd you will understand all this questions you want to know,He is the spirit and those who understand Him they are of Spirit.
His questions need a reading of scriptures. He needs to familiarise himself with the word.
He wants material things..I rather have peacevof God than material things❤❤
Well said, my sister 👏 🙌 .. This is the great following away. Many are leaving the true Yahusha Hamashiach.. Jesus Christ of Nazareth..
Tayo the way you are trying to clarify is not what Vuyo said, he was speaking about in Christianity he did not dwell into the other religions,,, amadlozi, Islam and the rest,,, no he was speaking about the church where we are told to pray and expect to receive but that doesn't come forth. Pastors and their cronies are the only ones benefitting. I hope you will understand the angle of my interjection. Let's focus on Christianity and it's preached promises to the poor and the background poverty,,, they never receive but the connected with the rich background testifying on a lie on what made them rich and say it's through God when it's not but it's their proceeds from family businesses and or other RAF funds and some from crime, I hope you get me. I listened to Vuyo and I know him personally and we have discussed about this before with him
Alright,maybe I misinterpreted his message❤
Good commentary Tay❤️🙏
Thank you rato❤❤😊
"Instead, be very glad-for these trials make you partners with Christ in his suffering, so that you will have the wonderful joy of seeing his glory when it is revealed to all the world." 1 Peter 4:13
You did a wonderful job with this video
Thank you sisi❤❤❤
Loved your commentary💯
Thank you❤❤😊
Christianity is not faka mali uzobona...... it's deeper than that
"So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children. Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”For his Spirit joins with our spirit to affirm that we are God’s children. And since we are his children, we are his heirs. In fact, together with Christ we are heirs of God’s glory. But if we are to share his glory, we must also share his suffering." - Romans 8:15-17
Malcolm x said " he is stupid the one who follows the religion of the oppressors of of his forefather"(ubukrestu)
Thank you Sisi, God owes us nothing
Thank You❤❤
Christianity is not for the weak it doesn't matter wether you have muscles remember the enemy is always attacking day and night
1. I'm yet to find the true doctrines of God.
2. Religion has nothing to do with your success. You rightfully said poverty is across all Religion.
3. A Person's concept of God is what determines their success.
4. I think punishment scripture is incorrectly interpreted. I can't be punished for someone's wrong doing, What happens then to my free will/ free agency.
"These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold-though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world." - 1 Peter 1:7
Thanks Miss tayo. You are absolutely right. Christianity isint false because of financial constraints. And our Christianity is not a money cash bank.
Thank you sis❤
People are in wrong churches & following pastors who dont even serve God.
Vuyo my brother i get you.
Seek God my brother & forget about these false pastors false churches.
Have a personal relationship with God and read his word and be born again.
God himself will lead you where he is.
Let no one take your money because we serve a living God who owns gold & silver & who wants to bless & prosper us❤
These so-called prophetic churches are problematic.
Mothibeng hleeng our God is the only way truth and life😊
There's no other apart from Him🙏☺️
God is a strategic God,our problem is that we do God's things on our way, this is why the ship is sinking people are falling,fake pastors are rising,God is able bota if you hear the truth not the bible verses,Jesus said I brought the truth on earth not the bible verses and the truth shall set you free.John 5v39
Well said.
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
- Hebrews 6:4-6
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"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must give up your own way, take up your cross, and follow me. 25 If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it." - Matthew 16:24
It's sad to hear a grown man thinking that being a Christian or Christianity is religion. Jesus has never taught people to be religious. Instead, He reconciled us with God so we can be one with God.
Now, God answers people according to the measure of their faith. The scripture says in James 1:22 (But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.) And in James 2:26 (For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.)
These scriptures are clear. We must also put in work in whatever goals we set in life, whether it be studies, gym, work, or whatsoever it maybe God will answer you according to the effort you put in your faith. Like a woman who suffered for 12 years with blooding, she had faith when she saw Jesus Christ, but she also had to put in effort by crawling and pushing her way towards Jesus Christ just to teach His garment for her to be healed.
These are some mysteries a carnal mind can not comprehend. Jesus Christ doesn't care whether you go to church or not, He only cares about your soul and spirit. This is the reason all His teachings are about spiritual realization and uplifting of your soul to reach self-actualization "which is Christ in you" so you can be unstoppable in life. No mountain will be high enough, no weapons strong enough to destroy you. This is the true Christinity. Not some religious doctrines that are used to enslave the people.
Thank you for your interaction❤❤
So we'll put @Tayo! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank You❤❤
I would use the same argument to discredit African Spirituality, Islam, Hinduism etc. His argument doesn’t discredit Christianity, he used emotions rather than logic and scripture.
It is as though before Christianity, Africa had no poverty, slavery, rape etc, we love to act like Africa was perfect before Christianity
Thank you Tayo for sharing the video, I enjoy such
Thank you❤❤
Well explained. Everybody has their own struggles. Rich ppl commit suicide, they get divorced and the get ill and their money cant even save them.
Exactly my point❤
Watch your channel for the first time....THIS IS VERY TRUE,GOD IS NOT AN ATM.WE WORSHIP HIM FOR WHO HE IS.
Thank you❤❤
The part of wisdom really hit me hard. The first thing I noticed about Vuyo speaking is that he lacks a lot of knowledge. I think the key to these issues is to first understand the character of God and understands how he works. God is not a person and we shouldn't question him like he's one of us. Proverbs says we shouldn't lean on our own understanding and we should trust him. Another one is Isaiah 55:8-9 " “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.".
Yes, you need to grow by filling your body and mind with the scriptures first❤❤
Preach!!!!!!❤
😂😂😂Wa lwala weni❤❤
I share the same sentiment to some extent.
Christianity is hard , but at the end is worth it. Lets not loose our faith in God because of false churches. Hes telling ths truth but God is real tlheng 😢😞🙏. Seek Him & you will find Him. We suffer because of the curse of sin committed by the first 2 people. Otherwise sufferings will always be there
If ur under law will end up being in this situation.
LOL!!!! Well, he's not wrong. We do suffer worse than the unbelievers. But it's a test of Faith, test of strength and building of character to that of Jesus Christ. Yes, everything will seem to fall apart and Implode around you. This walk is not for the weak, it's not for the whishy washy, not for the lukewarm. You're either in or out. I too accused God of favoritism, but was quickly convicted by the Holy Spirit. It is disobedience and Sin that seperates us from Him. Also, He does not owe us Anything. Prosperity Churches gives the complete wrong teachings with their Pastors and Preachers who does not carry God's annointing but deem it fit to stand on the Pulpit spewing such Falsities. Our mere Salvation is the Ultimate Gift, being part of His flock and entry into His Covenant. Anything else is mere Blessings upon whom He chooses to bestowe . 'I shall have mercy on whomever I chose...' He should study scripture for himself and stop relying on Pastors or churches who only give false info to their congregants. - God's Speed
Yes, problem is that we want God for wrong reasons. We are not humble
There are some level of hypocrisy when comes to worshippers especially with interpretations of Old and New tastament.
We have to acknowledge that christianity/bible brought so much instabilities in our families, villages, schools, government and so forth, while brought certain level of stabilty to colonial settlers n certain aristocratic individuals.
To refer to vuyo and you, the question becomes, do we achieve things because we are worshippers of certain religion or tradition or through our own will? Do we need to give credits to god for achieving great and leave the suffering perpetuating in the world to satan?
SA is above 85% christian population by 2022 stats, and the remaining 15 is accounted by other religions and traditional believers, while 50% of population are living under poverty-stricken society. They have to migrate to towns and so forth while leaving those they love behind in suffering and this trends keep going up n up.
So i believe, if you don't prepare, plan, research and take action there is nothing that will fall from anywhere irregardless of whether you insulted jesus last night, or loves him dearly. You only increase your chances by takinh action.
So there are some level of Christianity involvement in our society that divided, and worsen/degraded our society. Especially when comes to identity individual people in society or tribe and answering the question of ,"who am I?. People are brainwashed, manipilated and consciously blackmailed to acknowledge their roots especially within family, schools, communities and towns bcz of Christianity god who is holy and doesn't need any external interference.
So directly or indirectly, Christianity contributes 85% to SA achievements and suffering
My sister i agree with you. Suffering has nothing to do with any kind of religion. Hence some of us decided to just be bcos loving God does not make a difference, we all go through seasons. Christianity can be harmful, look at the false prophets, how they take people's money and leave them poorer than they found them. I know someone who nearly commited suicide cos their pastor graped them. How is a lay man supposed to know who is false and who is real. And what happens when you fall into the hands of a scammer on the name of a pastor. Christianity and african spirituality are 2 sided of the same coin.
I don't understand why you say that we suffer because of the mistakes of our forefathers. Doesn't the blood of Christ exempt a Christian from those curses? And if Jesus won't deliver a child of God from those curses then what's the point of being in Him?
Also, can we stop acting like answering our prayers is not literally what God promises to do for us?? It's not "using" God, it's actually accepting His invitation to ask Him for things. So why can't we express disappointment when He doesn't do what He said He will do?
You need to break those evil alters your forefathers raised first before you can enjoy the fruits of your labour(speaking from experience). God has already blessed us but these spirits that got into our bloodlines are the ones opposing your success. The are laws in the spirit and satan is always taking advantage us when we break these principles. Unfortunately, our parents break these laws on our behalfs and we suffer because we have their DNA in us.
The bible testifies his mistries and it is possible to do what the bible people did in the bible. 1 Corinthians 10v11
The deeper you understand the word of God ,then you'll understand how God operates .God isnt partial ,don't quit just yet .Seek Him first
Yes,they don't read the scriptures but they expect benefits.
Dabula is a normal person on just like any one of us.quit Christianity but don't quit Christ. Let me remind you there is no celebrity in God. We are all equal. And Hell has got lot of celebrity who rejected Jesus Christ on earth. Don't join them cause hell is not a joke.all your arguments are empty and unfounded. YOU MADE A POWERFUL CONCLUSIVE STATEMENT MY SISTER. GOD BLESS YOUm
Thank you bhuti❤😊
Am soo disappointed at him. He is a lost soul. May the Almighty help him find his paths again.
We hope he'll find his way back🙏
True
To follow Christ doesn't mean to be poor, it means you rich and the Lord Jesus Christ has taken us out of the curses of the law as in Galatians 3:13, those curses in Deuteronomy 28 from verse 15 to the last verse in Deuteronomy 28. I would say people only focus on riches not the Lord Jesus Christ. Most Christians don't want to work and fear failure but Christ says we winners. People should have Faith and move with God. Focus on Christ and wealth comes but your eyes will be on the Lord Jesus Christ not money.
Perhaps him turning away from Christianity is his first step in turning to God.
It probably is😊
The difference is, Christianity claims to be the one true religion from all the other religions. Why the one true God won't feed his own people? Is he limited? Or maybe the whole thing is a lie?
I don't think He's getting the point... Christianity is not the set of rules. The moment you want to keep grace and law it says a lot about how to you view His Holiness. It's either you receive grace and have life or you follow the law and die to sin.
But this is what a surface mindset of a person who doesn't read their Bible, but rely on the church to read the Bible for them.
I pray for him.
We really need to pray for him😢
True. You cannot come to God because we want wealth. You are a thief yourself and you wanna use God for your own personal gain. God wants us to get to know him. This is like getting into a relationship because of what your partner can provide for you. He wants the prosperity gospel let him go.
We are not humble to God xem😢
Once you have an encounter with Jesus not religion you will know the reason why. I mean the encounter with Christ not church not religion. I pray you meet Him before it's too late brother.
Biggest mistake ever 😢😢
Siyam'bongela yena umntfwane bantfu...maye kuhle ngakuye
😂😂😂
I’ll never deny Christ nor leave Christianity for the sake of riches sorry
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It is a pity that fame or stardom gets into a persom and disable his ability to reason😮 rationaly , hence the codswallop he has given as anwers for leaving Chistianity.
Nkosazana ngiyakuzwa futhi ukhulume kahle kakhulu, ngivumelana nawe.
Ngiyabonga bhuti❤❤
He is just using excuses
He doesn't know what he is talking about. He needs help
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Tatou is evil