Another fabulous interview! Ms de Courcy is someone whom one could listen to for hours on end without losing interest for a single moment. I do hope she has kept copious notes on her own life. She would be able to make recent history palatable to even the most errant school child. More please. xxx
Loved this second interview as much as the first, more , please! Here's a subject suggestion for Anne ; Lord Dawson of Penn - serial killer to the aristocracy and serial Regicide. Poem recited in UK Parliament - Lord Dawson of Penn has killed many men, That's why we sing God Save The King.
Fascinating interview. Very few of Anne de Courcy’s generation and ilk remain. Have you considered interesting Lady Pamela Hicks? Outside of her daughter, India, I don’t know if she grants interviews. Lady Anne Glennconner might though.
Ah! Anne de Courcy is such a breath of fresh air in this pea-soup-fog of a world we currently inhabit. Sharp and sensible and of course her subjects are so well researched. Adored both of her interviews. Thanks for your brilliant podcasts!
Enjoyed this one thanks chaps! Always late to the party here down under. I’ve read The Mitford Sisters so am quite au fait with Moseley & Diana Milford’s relationship but knew nothing of his marriage to a daughter of Lord Curzon. It’s certainly a fascinating period in British history. Not that British history ever fails to disappoint on that score. Even quite recently. Just finished watching The Rise & Fall Of Boris Johnson. I could see him feeling right at home in 1930’s Britain.
What a great podcast , so good that I listened to it twice ! I save your podcasts , and then listen to them while I'm walking my dogs in the park , it's perfect 🙂
I don't imagine there are many people in this world who are as intelligent, knowledgeable and eloquent as Anne. I was so happy to see her back on the show.
It’s a wonderful thing to capture women’s memories. In a certain era, they had a key perspective. Women were meant to decorative, the most interesting are those women have interesting things to share. Spirited, and full of fulfilling fffffs.
Not your average drivel…..the best comment ever. Glad you agree. And I will confirm anytime, that your podcast is way (!!!) above average every time. I am so happy I found it. For years I wished I had someone, who would recommend books to me, that I want to devour in one go. That is not a problem any more. The books I got since I started listening to you, are piling up. Thank you! So now I am off to check out which books from Anne I need to get. What an interesting Lady. The only bad thing I have to say is, that the interview should have lasted a few more hours.
What a lovely lady. Morals of alley cats the well born have. Please get her back for the Fishing Fleet I would love to hear about that. Also I am hoping Andrew is working on that book on Prince Philip, I want warts and all. The public has an opinion on him as having a rude side and suspect he was having affairs (with creepily young people too).
After thoroughly enjoying the latest podcast with Anne, I picked up my copy of Tom Driberg : His Life and Indiscretions by Francis Wheen. When he arrived at Oxford, he bought himself a pair of Oxford bags - silly clothing made popular by the notorious aesthete Harold Acton. Bright green and extraordinarily baggy. Well, a group of fifteen or so Bullingdon Club types went charging up Tom's staircase in Peckwater Quad one night , howling his name . Within minutes they were torn from him and paraded around the quad and then cut up into strips and finally hung up in the Junior Common Room. Cruel. Great to have a Scandalous Monger's Podcast on these Oxbridge Clubs. Bullingdon sounds intriguing. 😮
I enjoyed listening to Anne’s fascinating peek of a bygone era. Fruity, Bubba, Simi, philandering for England, fox hunting, Wallace, Hitler … my goodness the 30’s must have been the most extraordinary of times.
I was so excited to see this video as I’ve read all of Anne de Courcy’s books and highly recommend them all. I’d love to see her write a book on Lord Curzon.
I adore Anne's matter of fact, no nonsense presentation sprinkled with delicious quips. I totally agree that many were drawn to Hitler in the early days due to the theatrics and pageantry of the live 'performances' - lighting, music and visuals which would put todays reality shows to shame! Thank you Anne! You should consider getting SueMe on your show. She has an interesting UA-cam channel with various topics but does a lot of Harry and Meghan stuff. Andrew - both her Aunts knew Wallace Simpson which I think you may find interesting. Also, will you get Norman Baker on at any point?
I'm still catching up with some of the older shows - watched the PROFUMO one earlier!!!! Blew me away!!! How many overlapping tentacles in most of these shows?! Fascinating ❤ I really enjoy Norman Baker and will watch him now x *Another good guest would be forensic psychiatrist Dr. SOHOM DAS (on A PYSCH FOR SORE MINDS). Youngish and eloquent who is a friend of your buddies Andrew - he has been on Shaun Attwood's channel several times and has also done several shows with Andrew Gold. The SCANDAL MONGERS have (mostly) historical and political backgrounds to many of your stories - perhaps a psychological discussion as to many of the recurring themes would be insightful. I'm pushing it a bit to suggest GRAHAM HANCOCK - it would be like an interview with a DEMI GOD😅 - but his wife Santha is a remarkable photographer and accompanies him on many of his exploratory trips. She would be a fascinating guest, too! Xxxx
I like how you give the interviewees the time to talk and let their stories breathe. You also now have developed the understanding of when to let the appropriate co-host ask the relevant question. Long may it continue.
Hi Phil , we have London weather forecast today, rainy and miserable ( BTW Shoghig is Armenian female name married to an Irishman from NI , sadly he passed away im sure he would have loved to listen to your podcast
Crazy, amazing stories told by such a pleasanat teller 😀 (and great interviewers as usual 😊) On that kind of subject, I'd like that an episode would somehow tackle the birth control issue. I really wonder how in the past that upper class and their multiple relationships dealt with that issue. Serial abortions? Coitus interruptus? Anything else? I doubt there is much information on that subject but I really wonder... 🤫
It’s lovely that these biographers & historians give us a glimpse into these privileged, wealthy & over indulged aristocrats who are deep down, common, hypocrites, vulgar and above all truly ordinary.
Darn it 😮 I measure my blood pressure to Andrew's sonorous and plummy tones (always good for dropping the numbers a unit or two 😅)...and then pop off for tea n cake with your happy- chappy (and Frances x) jolly vibes Phil!!! Now I'll just have to have double portions of cake due to Andrew skiving off around Scotland!!! I've been catching up on some of your earlier work and am really impressed! Thank you both so much - hugs from Greece xx 🇬🇷
@@philmcraig Indeed! The thing is- if Frances DOESN'T appear on further shows there will be quite a furore! Could blow up the internet even more than the recent WHERE'S PRINCESS CATHERINE debacle! 😂😘
Hi, just tuning in , loved the podcast with Peter Pomerantsev , I left a comment on that podcast 👍, as I have only joined your Subscriptions recently I am really enjoying going back to viewing your past work , Can I make an suggestion about interviewing Bill Browder ?? Great Guy in my opinion love from Ireland ☘☘
Anne makes a very important point that restraints can cause people to behave differently. I have often thought about the anger that Price Phillip, King Charles and Prince William have displayed would be quite normal given the restraints and mapping out of one's life. I think history has shown that some just can't adjust to that. An American perspective. Or, just mine😂
Thank you once again. Essential listening for Sunday lunch prep. This subject conjures up a Harry Enfield type skit about an aristocratic version of the Jeremy Kyle show in my mind. Wonderful guest again. It's odd how simply relating a story can be seen as endorsement or criticism of the people in it. I think we're quite forgiving towards the Persians for not having an air force, but we're more critical towards our predecessors for their lack of philosophical ideas that have since emerged and we now might hold dear. I think it's more about us trying to tell ourselves we're better people than we were before than anything else.
After Ann’s book Snowden, I’ll be sure to peek behind the heavy drapes & brown shirts of its time. The Royals, Wallace, Hitler, and Mosley are stories of biblical proportions. Andrew Lownie got to the heart of the matter, with a couple of pertinent Q’s. Well done Scandal Muck Rakers 👏👏👏
I imagine that the 30’s being a hop, skip and a jump forward from Victorian tight morality were actually mostly about taking no notice of the old order. It seemed to be taken as a right. My own parents, even though not from aristocratic circles didn’t let that little problem stop them. As a child there still loads of rules which were bandied about…think of ‘no divorce’ for Royalty in our own times. Most enlightening and interesting.
No way 97, I would’ve said 77, maybe 87. Anne is remarkable and in the same league as the late Queen; hardworking, stoic, intelligent and innocently witty. They will never make them like that again and sadly we are losing first hand memories of the war time era.
- fyi - Russian aristocracy also and very often used cute funky nicknames - and even today in America in New York out on Long Island in a place called Locust Valley cute names are also used such as Binky or Bunky or Muffy etc - love ur interesting fun to know stuff show -
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What a delight Anne is!
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed Anne’s company as much as I did!😊
Fantastic interview great job again guys
Thanks your ladyship 😊
I can’t believe Anne is 97, what an amazing lady, why didn’t you ask her secret to a long life 🤷🏻♀️
Great interview
Next time I will! 😊
Well it looks to me to be mental stimulation and an eagerness to discover and learn - she clearly keeps her mind fit.
Thoroughly enjoyable podcast.
Glad you liked it Peony 😊
Really interesting . Love to hear Anne speak. ❤I have read her book but learned more after hearing her speak on it. Keep inviting her back . 👍
Done! 😊
I'd like to write a book on Anne. What riveting stories she has!
One of a kind! 😊
Another fabulous interview! Ms de Courcy is someone whom one could listen to for hours on end without losing interest for a single moment. I do hope she has kept copious notes on her own life. She would be able to make recent history palatable to even the most errant school child. More please. xxx
Yes more coming...I hope!
This is living history. It’s incredible to hear this. Am truly grateful for this.
Thanks Claire! Please spread the word if you can! 😊😊
Your two interviews with Anne de Courcy are among my favorites. What an amazing and interesting lady.
Mine too! 😊
Loved this second interview as much as the first, more , please! Here's a subject suggestion for Anne ; Lord Dawson of Penn - serial killer to the aristocracy and serial Regicide. Poem recited in UK Parliament -
Lord Dawson of Penn has killed many men,
That's why we sing God Save The King.
I will ask Anne and see what she thinks. Thanks so much Jayne😊
Fascinating interview. Very few of Anne de Courcy’s generation and ilk remain. Have you considered interesting Lady Pamela Hicks? Outside of her daughter, India, I don’t know if she grants interviews. Lady Anne Glennconner might though.
Yes and we have tried … 😊
I’m addicted to your podcasts. My morning walks are so much more enjoyable.
Glad to be of service Eileen. And please spread the word if you can
This was a fascinating interview, cannot believe Anne is 97 and her knowledge. Great episode.
many thanks Chanel. Anne will return!! 😊
Hi Phil! We really recommend your WW II book!
"Finest Hour"
Waiting for your new books!
Thanks I am currently writing the final volume of the Finest Hour trilogy and it will be published in April 2025 😊
I love hearing from the WWII generation we could learn alot from them
As the author or two (and soon three) books on the war....i can only agree!
Ah! Anne de Courcy is such a breath of fresh air in this pea-soup-fog of a world we currently inhabit. Sharp and sensible and of course her subjects are so well researched. Adored both of her interviews. Thanks for your brilliant podcasts!
You're so welcome Liz
Top drawer introduction by Phil.
That was fascinating. What an amazing woman. Thank you!
Thanks to you for watching Giovanna😊
We think she is terrific.
Enjoyed this one thanks chaps! Always late to the party here down under. I’ve read The Mitford Sisters so am quite au fait with Moseley & Diana Milford’s relationship but knew nothing of his marriage to a daughter of Lord Curzon. It’s certainly a fascinating period in British history. Not that British history ever fails to disappoint on that score. Even quite recently. Just finished watching The Rise & Fall Of Boris Johnson. I could see him feeling right at home in 1930’s Britain.
Yes indeed! And almost as many affairs as Mosley! 😅
What a great podcast , so good that I listened to it twice ! I save your podcasts , and then listen to them while I'm walking my dogs in the park , it's perfect 🙂
Great to know Caroline. But which park?
I don't imagine there are many people in this world who are as intelligent, knowledgeable and eloquent as Anne. I was so happy to see her back on the show.
She is a National Treasure
Another great author to learn from. Thank you!
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching Claire 😊
I hope she will return.
@@andrewlownie2033 looking forward to your next interview with Shauna. I think she said in a week or so?❤️
OMG - thank you so much! I love starting my day with your podcast but it will be even better when drinking coffee out of my Scandal Mongers mug.
❤❤❤ her!
It’s a wonderful thing to capture women’s memories. In a certain era, they had a key perspective. Women were meant to decorative, the most interesting are those women have interesting things to share. Spirited, and full of fulfilling fffffs.
Very interesting interview. The reviews you read were very funny
Could listen to her stories all day... Love Anne! Thanks P&C!
Thank you for watching! 😊
@@SAINTOBVIOUS probably neither of us but an episode with expert on Albert and Victoria might be fun
Brian here from Dublin. Hello everyone. Great podcast as always . Trinity College Dublin is and was full of Fruity people to be fair. ☘️👋
Hi Brian and as a recent participant in the Dublin literary pub crawl I can only agree!! 😊🇮🇪
Not your average drivel…..the best comment ever. Glad you agree. And I will confirm anytime, that your podcast is way (!!!) above average every time. I am so happy I found it. For years I wished I had someone, who would recommend books to me, that I want to devour in one go. That is not a problem any more. The books I got since I started listening to you, are piling up. Thank you! So now I am off to check out which books from Anne I need to get. What an interesting Lady. The only bad thing I have to say is, that the interview should have lasted a few more hours.
Anne had so many great books in print that we have a pile of our own - mostly borrowed from Mrs. Craig’s library!
Lucky you! Like Mr. Lownie said today, everybody should have a Frances.
@@Meanook😂
Anne is wonderful this was a brilliant interview I loved it.
Thank you Anne, Phil, and Andrew.
Classy podcast !
So glad you enjoyed.
British history is so full of fabulously scandalous characters. Anne is brilliant
Thanks so much for another very entertaing show.
You’re so welcome Brenda😊
So glad you enjoyed it.
Remind everyone to press ‘like’ for you. X
Oh yes we keep forgetting! Thanks 😊
What a lovely lady. Morals of alley cats the well born have. Please get her back for the Fishing Fleet I would love to hear about that. Also I am hoping Andrew is working on that book on Prince Philip, I want warts and all. The public has an opinion on him as having a rude side and suspect he was having affairs (with creepily young people too).
I hope to do Prince Philip once Prince Andrew delivered.
After thoroughly enjoying the latest podcast with Anne, I picked up my copy of Tom Driberg : His Life and Indiscretions by Francis Wheen. When he arrived at Oxford, he bought himself a pair of Oxford bags - silly clothing made popular by the notorious aesthete Harold Acton. Bright green and extraordinarily baggy. Well, a group of fifteen or so Bullingdon Club types went charging up Tom's staircase in Peckwater Quad one night , howling his name . Within minutes they were torn from him and paraded around the quad and then cut up into strips and finally hung up in the Junior Common Room. Cruel.
Great to have a Scandalous Monger's Podcast on these Oxbridge Clubs. Bullingdon sounds intriguing. 😮
I enjoyed listening to Anne’s fascinating peek of a bygone era. Fruity, Bubba, Simi, philandering for England, fox hunting, Wallace, Hitler … my goodness the 30’s must have been the most extraordinary of times.
A lost world! And probably for the best…
Thanks
Really generous of you Alison - again! Thanks so much 😊
@@philmcraiggreat show. We all deserve a holiday. But i hope Andrew comes back next week! The microphone looks great.
@@alisonkent3119 Most generous of you. Many thanks.
This was most interesting and entertaining, thank you!
You’re so welcome Yiva 🇸🇪😊 Thanks for watching
Glad you enjoyed.
I was so excited to see this video as I’ve read all of Anne de Courcy’s books and highly recommend them all. I’d love to see her write a book on Lord Curzon.
So would I Danise 😊
@@philmcraig maybe you could whisper some encouraging words 😊
I have really enjoyed your podcast . Off now to watch the first one. Thank you
Thanks so much Alison 😊
Fascinating! All three brilliantly clever and funny!
My naughty taste buds are tingling in anticipation of a podcast on those fabulous flappers of the '20s !
I adore Anne's matter of fact, no nonsense presentation sprinkled with delicious quips.
I totally agree that many were drawn to Hitler in the early days due to the theatrics and pageantry of the live 'performances' - lighting, music and visuals which would put todays reality shows to shame!
Thank you Anne!
You should consider getting
SueMe on your show. She has an interesting UA-cam channel with various topics but does a lot of Harry and Meghan stuff.
Andrew - both her Aunts knew Wallace Simpson which I think you may find interesting.
Also, will you get Norman Baker on at any point?
Norman was in our episode 53 but wed love to have him back 😊
I'm still catching up with some of the older shows - watched the PROFUMO one earlier!!!! Blew me away!!! How many overlapping tentacles in most of these shows?! Fascinating ❤
I really enjoy Norman Baker and will watch him now x
*Another good guest would be forensic psychiatrist Dr. SOHOM DAS (on A PYSCH FOR SORE MINDS).
Youngish and eloquent who is a friend of your buddies Andrew - he has been on Shaun Attwood's channel several times and has also done several shows with Andrew Gold. The SCANDAL MONGERS have (mostly) historical and political backgrounds to many of your stories - perhaps a psychological discussion as to many of the recurring themes would be insightful.
I'm pushing it a bit to suggest GRAHAM HANCOCK - it would be like an interview with a DEMI GOD😅 - but his wife Santha is a remarkable photographer and accompanies him on many of his exploratory trips. She would be a fascinating guest, too! Xxxx
Thanks for tip. Checking her out.
I just love this show so much !! I always learn about very interesting people. Keep up the great work.
And we love talking to great writers like Anne! Thanks for listening 😊
I like how you give the interviewees the time to talk and let their stories breathe. You also now have developed the understanding of when to let the appropriate co-host ask the relevant question. Long may it continue.
Thanks Nick! 😊
Getting this book to read while recovering from surgery. Who could write this as well as Ms D'Courcy
Wishing you a quiz recovery Barbra - and a great read 😊
She's both scholarly and readable.
Have you ever interviewed Julian Fellows?
No but he's someone I would love to talk to !
He must have some great inside knowledge about historical figures…
Or at least his opinions would be enlightening!
Would love to see Julian Fellows!!!
Good day from Toronto, looking forward to hear todays pods chat
Good afternoon from a sunny SW London Shoghig!! 😊🌞
Hi Phil , we have London weather forecast today, rainy and miserable ( BTW Shoghig is Armenian female name married to an Irishman from NI , sadly he passed away im sure he would have loved to listen to your podcast
Another great podcast. Anne's so funny with her matter of fact quips as well as informative - admire her integrity too.
She is one of a kind! 😊
So interesting. I read Anne’s book on Lord Snowden. I might have to get this as well.
It’s a great read! 😊
As I said one of my favourite of her books.
Crazy, amazing stories told by such a pleasanat teller 😀 (and great interviewers as usual 😊)
On that kind of subject, I'd like that an episode would somehow tackle the birth control issue. I really wonder how in the past that upper class and their multiple relationships dealt with that issue. Serial abortions? Coitus interruptus? Anything else?
I doubt there is much information on that subject but I really wonder... 🤫
Maybe we need a special 15+ episode on all the - er - ins and outs of sex in the the past??
@@philmcraig Yes, maybe it's a good idea 👍
An amazing lady.
It’s lovely that these biographers & historians give us a glimpse into these privileged, wealthy & over indulged aristocrats who are deep down, common, hypocrites, vulgar and above all truly ordinary.
Thank you. An interesting listen.
Thanks for listening Kate 😊
So glad you enjoyed.
Darn it 😮
I measure my blood pressure to Andrew's sonorous and plummy tones (always good for dropping the numbers a unit or two 😅)...and then pop off for tea n cake with your happy- chappy (and Frances x) jolly vibes Phil!!!
Now I'll just have to have double portions of cake due to Andrew skiving off around Scotland!!!
I've been catching up on some of your earlier work and am really impressed!
Thank you both so much - hugs from Greece xx
🇬🇷
The Frances cameo is becoming a regular event! 😊
@@philmcraig
Indeed!
The thing is- if Frances DOESN'T appear on further shows there will be quite a furore!
Could blow up the internet even more than the recent WHERE'S PRINCESS CATHERINE debacle!
😂😘
What a wonderful way to relax on a Sunday evening :). Thank you. I am looking forward to your next interview with Anne.
I couldn't agree more, but I'm preparing the Sunday meal 😃
@@mikka1439love that we are helping people cook - or relax - in multiple hemispheres 😊😊
So am I Karen!
Totally agree , what a fascinating podcast , and so wonderful to listen to 🙂
@@carolinewalker3106 That's so great to hear Caroline!
Hi, just tuning in , loved the podcast with Peter Pomerantsev , I left a comment on that podcast 👍, as I have only joined your Subscriptions recently I am really enjoying going back to viewing your past work , Can I make an suggestion about interviewing Bill Browder ?? Great Guy in my opinion love from Ireland ☘☘
Welcome!! Please stick around 😊
Anne makes a very important point that restraints can cause people to behave differently. I have often thought about the anger that Price Phillip, King Charles and Prince William have displayed would be quite normal given the restraints and mapping out of one's life. I think history has shown that some just can't adjust to that. An American perspective. Or, just mine😂
Thank you once again. Essential listening for Sunday lunch prep.
This subject conjures up a Harry Enfield type skit about an aristocratic version of the Jeremy Kyle show in my mind.
Wonderful guest again. It's odd how simply relating a story can be seen as endorsement or criticism of the people in it.
I think we're quite forgiving towards the Persians for not having an air force, but we're more critical towards our predecessors for their lack of philosophical ideas that have since emerged and we now might hold dear. I think it's more about us trying to tell ourselves we're better people than we were before than anything else.
Very well put Jim! History is mostly a slander against the past, as someone clever once said!
After Ann’s book Snowden, I’ll be sure to peek behind the heavy drapes & brown shirts of its time. The Royals, Wallace, Hitler, and Mosley are stories of biblical proportions. Andrew Lownie got to the heart of the matter, with a couple of pertinent Q’s. Well done Scandal Muck Rakers 👏👏👏
Oswald Mosley was not only with all three sisters but also their stepmother Grace!
A cad's cad !
I love pg wodehouse
Me too!
I imagine that the 30’s being a hop, skip and a jump forward from Victorian tight morality were actually mostly about taking no notice of the old order. It seemed to be taken as a right. My own parents, even though not from aristocratic circles didn’t let that little problem stop them. As a child there still loads of rules which were bandied about…think of ‘no divorce’ for Royalty in our own times. Most enlightening and interesting.
Thanks Rikki 😊
Yes😂. No divorced person over MY doorstep! Unless, you part of the hunt.!
What a hoot.!
@@BlueInk912 a hoot 🦉 indeed!
No way 97, I would’ve said 77, maybe 87. Anne is remarkable and in the same league as the late Queen; hardworking, stoic, intelligent and innocently witty. They will never make them like that again and sadly we are losing first hand memories of the war time era.
Completely agree !
One of my favourite writres and friends.
My goodness. It’s labyrinthine!
- fyi - Russian aristocracy also and very often used cute funky nicknames - and even today in America in New York out on Long Island in a place called Locust Valley cute names are also used such as Binky or Bunky or Muffy etc - love ur interesting fun to know stuff show -
Many thanks catherine
Another week, another 1st. I don't know how this happens.
Lay lines? Stonehenge? UFOs?
@@PhilCraig-Writing I think I must be a Scandal Mongers mind slave. I think I must get the voice of the Mysterons when you post content.
I just looked up google images for Mosley. Don’t see the attraction whatsoever…
Me neither Magenta!
Thank you Anne, Harry is a disgrace
Andrew, I can’t believe you brought up Royal It’s Knock Out. What a pathetic point. Get over it, it was decades ago and irrelevant.
I thought it was a wonderful reference