RCF HDM 45 Speaker - No Subwoofer needed for Mobile DJ's??
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Thanks for watching my review and experience with the RCF HDM 45 15" Speaker! I bought these speakers as a Mobile DJ in hopes that I could use two of them and still get subwoofer level bass. I ended up learning a lot about sound instead! Is this is the best speaker out there for mobile DJ's??
Let me know if your thoughts about bass when it comes to speakers! I'd also appreciate any feedback from any HDM45 users about the troubleshooting points I mentioned in the video.
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I've had these for a couple of years and haven't had any issues or white noise . FYI, the power con is designed to have the blue connector plugged in before you connect actual live power.
Sequence for powering on should be:
1. Connect blue connector.
2. Connect live power to outlet
Sequence for powering off:
1. Disconnect power from outlet
2. Disconnect blue connector.
What do you have the gain set to? I typically run my gain on the HDM 45 at 15. Proper gain staging will reduce the hiss you hear. Are you using an external mixer or connecting straight from your mixer/controller to the speakers? I run my setup off an Allen and Heath Zed 10 FX. I have the Main Mix Level set to Unity, and use the PFL to set the Gain from my Rane One to where it bounces into the greens. Then adjust your sound level needed on the Channel Level.
This guy here has a good tutorial on proper gain staging.
ua-cam.com/video/J_yOvdlMUAg/v-deo.html
Also use the built in the DSP Presets for your room. Small room I typically change it to C1 for close listening, it cuts the highs. For deep long throws, I change the setting to F1 for Far listening, you will get more throw on the highs. Set the DSP and walk around the room to see if you like the sound and adjust from there. The L4 setting will get you more bass but you will reduce headroom. As you stated, subs do a better job since they are typically on the ground and you get additional bass from the boundary of the floor. Hope this helps.
Wow thank you so much for this comment! These are amazing tips, and I will start using these immediately. I definitely did not know about the sequencing for powering on and off, and will try that next time for sure.
I do use a mixer, however, I had the HDM 45 set at 0.0 previously. That’s great to know that you set them much lower at 15 and do not hear any of the white noise or hissing sound. I think that could be contributing to why I am having the issue and I will try that as well!
I had tried the presets previously like you had described, but I did not know that the L4 preset gave extra bass!
Thank you again so much for taking the time to share all these amazing tips, and I can’t wait to try them out at my next event, and see if it helps the issues I was having. Thank you!
Very clear cut review/information. You should do more product vids like this! Earned a sub.
@@henningjanson hey thanks for watching and the kind words that really means a lot! I will definitely post more review vids - just need to get my hands on more gear haha!
Wow you are a beast! Going up and down stairs with all this gear!! At least you’re getting your cardio in!! I was with you on hoping for big base in top speakers but the only ones I have found that deliver are the Icoa 15 inch tops. But they are heavy as hell!!! I recently picked up a pair of RCF Evox J8 and agree the high are really loud and harsh. Holy hell $2000 each!!!! Wow!!! Ballin!!! 😎
@@James.KingHTX thanks for watching man!! Yea going up and down the stairs every gig is no fun hahaha and yea man I was hoping by spending a lot on tops I’d save on subs but at least now I have good tops!! That’s great to know you have the Evox! I’m looking into column arrays right now myself but leaning towards the Maui 28 G3!
Very honest review. Thanks 🤝
@@donataspasilis8103 I hope that it helped you! Thank you for watching and the comment!
I own these and use them for larger events. These are hands down the best powered speakers I've ever used and I had many. They make sense even at smaller events because they are so light weight and easy to carry. I agree with you, you do need a subwoofer for most venues.
Thanks for watching! That’s great to hear these are the top speakers after all the ones you’ve had. I agree, even for smaller events it’s nice to be able to use these and know you have headroom if needed. Also, does your limiter light turn yellow as well?? I’ve just been wondering if that’s normal for these since I don’t know others with the speakers haha
@@MrMaui38 I don’t recall my limit getting into yellow. Maybe check your settings.
@@shameer685 interesting!! I wonder what it could be. Either way, glad to hear they’re the best in your experience too.
@@MrMaui38 thanks man.
hey what sub are you using and do you regret getting that sub or is it sufficient. I’m on the fence to getting them
Hey I’ve had the rcf hdm45 for about 2 years now and they are one of the loudest top I ever had. However my previous tops was the JBL SRX835p and that you definitely won’t need a sub but being 85 lbs is the reason I sold it. As far as limiting on the rcf I’ve pushed mines really hard with no issues. The yellow is just a soft limiter. Rcf has so much protection built into that thing. If your in need of subs look into the Bose sub 2 for portability you’ll thank me later. 2 of those I think is equal to 1 rcf 8004 😊
Thanks for watching and the comment! Wow man 85 lbs is no joke haha this is much more manageable! That's really great to know about the yellow being just a soft limiter and makes me feel a lot better. I haven't/ needed to push them that hard yet, but maybe I'll try now haha
Yess wow what a coincidence, I was actually looking into the Sub 2 a couple days ago!! At 50 lbs each, they seem super convenient, yet still powerful. How many do you take to an event to pair with your HDM45s? Also, do you mount the HDM45 on the Sub2 with a sub pole, or do you just use with the HDM45 on a separate speaker stand?
@MrMaui38 yeah so for my bigger parties I actually use one hdm45 with 2 rcf 8003mk2 subs. For my smaller events I have one of the bose L1 Pro 16 and its amazing for what it is. But I think you should try 1 sub2 first and you want more then get a second one. Two bose sub2 is equal to about 1 big 18 inch rcf sub. If you with two sub2 you can stack them laying down then with a pole put the hdm45 on the top.
Believe it or not the bose L1 pro 16 gives a better throw and wide disperse (180 degree) for music it's crystal clear and bass is amazing for the size. The line array design helps alot. But the hdm45 is louder in front of the speaker. All depends what your looking for.
I just bought ones today they sound good but at least one woofer needed for outdoors or large places
I got the RCF 945a and they are a monster of speakers. The bass is there but I always set it up with subs. The reason is sound quality. I had the opportunity to dj next to other DJs that don't use subs and 95% of the time people prefer how my system sounds. So don't sacrifice spud quality just because you don't want to carry a subwoofer.
Thanks for watching! Sound wise I agree that there is no replacement for subs, no matter how powerful or expensive your tops are! What size subs do you use with your 945s? I've looked into smaller 12 inch subs to cut down on weight, but don't know if they would just be totally overpowered by the tops and I’d need something bigger anyways.
@@MrMaui38there is no such a thing as the subs being smaller than the tops. With 2 HDM 45 you need at least 2 expensive 18 inch to keep up. But even with the sub at max volume you would have the tops turned way down to get a balanced sound. I’m not exaggerating, The HDM 45 used with an highpass filter perform at its best with a dual 18 inch sub for each one of them :)
@@francescog53550 you are absolutely right I think that is what they would need too!! That horn is really that powerful.
Bro that was a great purchase!. Does the white noise happens to your evs?. Could the yellow light be a warning and it might turn red when is definitely at its peak?
Dude surprisingly it doesn’t happen with the EVs!! Which is why I was surprised because I bought those for like literally 1/4 the price lol.
I was thinking the same about the light lmao but I’m too scared to turn it up more 😂😂😂 I’ve never seen it go red yet
@@MrMaui38 ive nerver heard the white noise on my evs either. I just did it on my everse 8 and is really quiet. & I feel you on the limit thing that could be a question for rcf techs
@@lasrocasent bro the funny thing is I called RCF and they said that the limit light should be red LOL 😂 that’s why I’m curious to see if someone who watches this video also has the speakers and has the yellow haha
EVs are great man we’ll see if I can figure out what’s causing this sound because otherwise these speakers have been legit
You can’t limit that speaker with dj sound that speaker is too loud .
In fact I use a dual 21” sub with one per side and it keeps up real good
@@kojokay That’s impressive. Maybe I’m not pushing them hard enough haha. Does your limiter on the HDM45 turn yellow or red??
Hi, what are the main differences between this and the HDM 35 sound wise? Best wishes
Thanks for watching! I havent heard the HDM35 but from what I know, this HDM45 is louder because it has that bigger horn on the top. The horn will also take some of the mid range frequencies, allowing the woofer on the HDM 45 to produce more bass. Also the HDM 35 is heavier (only a little bit however), so I was trying to avoid that.
Also is there any RCF speaker that would work well In a 35 sq meter room without the need of a sub? I'm a bedroom DJ who plays mainly house & techno and I'll be throwing the occasional party with 20 people max. Thanks bud
Honestly for that setup, even if you got just one of the RCF EVOX 8 speakers, that would be enough! You can even get two of those and you could cover most small events up to 100 people. Maybe even max 150! And aesthetics wise they look nicer which would be nice in a house party setup! These HDM series are better for versatility say you may be taking them out to large events and spaces where you need the sound or vocals to travel far, but if youre not thinking to use them that way, a small column array like the EVOX 8 is perfect!
I heard you can’t go wrong with RCF, however I have the QSC K12.2 and I think it provides a significant amount of bass. They are a little lighter than the RCF model you have.
Do you plan to stick with RCF or are you still trying out other speakers?
Definitely cant go wrong! I think the bass is comparable amongst those speakers like the QSCs, JBLs, RCFs etc to the audience ears and in the end don’t replace subs. There may be some small difference, but i don’t think it’s enough for people in the audience to be able which is what matters in the end to me
I probably won’t be looking at other box speakers other than the RCF I have, but my next purchases might be the column arrays by RCF or LD,. They bring the bass in a portable package when the goal isn’t to cover a huge area! These HDMs really do a great job of throwing sound and covering large areas and venues with the high and mids, which columns I’ve heard can’t do. Thanks for watching!!
I don’t know much about LD, however a lot are saying that the RCF Evox 12 will handle a large crowd. I just can’t get over the price tag. If I can book a ton of high paying weddings next season, I will invest.
@@EnormeSounds that price tag is no joke! I’m in the same boat - if I can do enough to justify the cost, then I’ll buy a pair otherwise I’ll stick to these regular box speakers haha
what do you think about the rcf art 714 mkh4? I'm planning to buy two of these, they seem like a perfect price, one in my country costs €500
715😂
@@Robertas-u5l thanks for watching! I haven’t heard them for myself but that’s a great price! The 715 are double that price here in the U.S. There is also a 915 but they will probably be more expensive.
915 cost 750€
@@Robertas-u5l oh wow that’s a big difference. From what I know about the seven series and nine series, most people actually prefer the sound of the seven series RCF speakers so as long as you like the look of the 715 vs 915 that’s a great deal!
I have rcf hdm 45 I have same problem hiss sound and ringing sound
Thanks for watching and letting me know! That’s disappointing…have you found anything that helps it be more quiet? Also, does your limiter light turn yellow or red when it is activated?
Turn the input sensitivity down and the white noise will stop.
@@kojokay Thanks for the tip!! Much appreciated! Do you mean the volume on the speaker itself? I will try that and see thanks!
@@MrMaui38
Yes the volume know on the back
You can turn it to 1.1. And it will be silent
@@kojokay I will try that, thank you!
Is RCF tt5a & Bassboss vs21-mk3 a good combination as for a top and bottom ? Or should I go with a tts 18-a mk2…
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, I haven’t heard either of those speakers so I wouldn’t be able to give you a good recommendation sorry.
Good combination
Thanks for your video
Thanks for watching!
I never dj for most os 180 pip outdoors do you recommend this or its too harsh for close listening
These are flexible and do have a close listening mode you could use! However, I think that if you are primarily using these for close listening only, you would honestly be paying for much more speaker than you would need with these. The horn you’re paying for in these speakers are really best used for covering large spaces or big crowds! You could probably save some money and go with an option with smaller horn and maybe even a 12” speaker!
@@MrMaui38I found the open box for 2800 the with stands so it was better go thes route but my mk5 hd10 sounds amazing too
@@MrMaui38what u use to eq them
@@Earthcitizen4609 wow 2800 with stands is an amazing price for these!! With tax and everything these would put you at about 4300 usually so you got a great deal. Definitely worth getting them at that price!!
As for EQ, I just have my small Yamaha MG06X or MG10X mixer I run these through, nothing fancy!
Would buy them again for your application
Thanks for watching! I think that for my application DJing, I would buy the RCF 745 because it is a bit lighter (closer to 40 lbs) and cheaper because now it’s an older model, but performance is similar.
I tested to the max where yellow light flickers and gives a rumbling sound not very pleasant thought it was blown after checking everything it’s just the speaker seems like the plastic cannot handle all the bass
Oh you got the yellow light too? Hmm hopefully not too much rumbling..mine have sounded relatively clear at high volumes and with the bass up.
@@MrMaui38 when playing funky town right before it hits the yellow light sounds rumbling like the woofer losses control
Maybe the woofer its a little damaged
My lost
Try it n let me know
If u can
I do get the yellow light
@@Earthcitizen4609 Oh no that is so unfortunate I am sorry to hear that. I definitely dont have any rumbling sound like the woofer is losing control...it may have been that the open box version you got was damaged. Can you return them?
@@MrMaui38 bought from a guy facebook marketplace nop
Is the nx945 better than this one since its wood?
I couldn’t say, since I haven’t heard it or done a side by side. I am sure that the wood enclosure makes it sound great though!
@@MrMaui38 nx945a is 135dB, hdm 45a is 133dB... do yourself the math :D. The downside is that nx945a is heavier (aprox 27 kg)
if you want an full range 2 way speaker with decend bass you need to buy an speaker with a wooden large body.
But it will be heavier, you can't get a lot of bass with a light speaker, these are the laws of physics.
Thanks for watching!! Ive heard the same from others and totally agree. Unfortunately I need to get in the gym to be able to carry those wooden box cabinets to gigs every weekend 😅
@@MrMaui38 Yeah, I just tested some LD Systems Stinger 15 A g3s and those things have more bass than my RCF 745A MK4, but it's heavy and big (57 lbs)
@@sonny9546 oh wow I’ve never heard those LD stingers but that’s impressive. The 745s put out decent bass but again are plastic too
Better off probably getting a pair of 12 inch subwoofers and pairing them with your zlxs.
I agree! Thanks for watching. That or just getting some column arrays for situations when I don’t need to fill a giant space with sound or throw the sound far.
@@MrMaui38 the LDs are nice. I also like the turbosound ip 2000s they are good affordable options.
@@DJ_V_squared I’ve seen a lot on UA-cam about the LDs and RCF columns but not much about the Turbosound - I’ll check them out thanks! What speakers do you usually use?
@@MrMaui38 I use the maui ld 44 g2s mostly.
@@DJ_V_squared nice! I’ve heard amazing things about them. Am definitely going to look hard at them if I buy a column array system next.
Ofc any speaker no metter how much they cost will be better with subwoofer 😅😂 this hdm i have them for 2-3 yrs don’t know month when bought😂 have stronger bass than famous 745 wich i was lookin for 😂 and becouse they are more clear sounding betwen those 745 sound more ruff in bass so they sound similar but hdm is harder on punchin ^^ but u can correct spunding with mixer or pressets 😂 btw it has 4inch coul in hf driver but lf driver is 3.5 ^^ cimpared to ur ev entry lvl speaker its like 2 times bigger and stronger 😂 not to make fun but its true… sound and feel wise it goes down to drivers ofc but allso depends on a loot different things… box is it wood or plastic, some plastic speaker sound like subwoofer but allso depends on parameters on pressets in AMP any AMP in speaker, crossower point etc etc and etc… if u wanna mind just mind deciwing sound from bass ur better than 745 but becouse hdm hase 400w more to spare 😂 u can make it sound like it couse of extra head room and get better bass, this speaker destroy in bass 745 not a loot but in my case 745 on boost doesnt hit harder than hdm45 on flat just… not on boost 😂 i was just playin on mixer 😂
Thanks for watching! These are great points!