Pakistan’s Identity Crisis | Dil ki Baat 017

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    Hello folks! Welcome back to Dil ki Baat. Tonight, I am discussing the complexities of ideology and national identity. Join me as I talk about Pakistan’s ideology, present various perspectives, discuss different types of ideologies, potential solutions to our identity crisis and much more.
    00:00 Introduction
    02:22 Ideology & Identity Crisis
    02:52 My Thesis
    03:31 Defining Ideology
    03:52 In-depth Understanding
    04:10 National Identity Explained
    05:05 Dr. Fazal ul Rehman on Ideology
    05:16 Why discuss this?
    07:02 Importance of Ideologies
    07:36 Diverse Perspectives
    08:50 The right way to go about this?
    09:30 Types of Ideologies Worldwide
    10:40 The Evolution of Ideologies
    12:08 Media’s Role
    12:35 Historical Insights to Understand the Present
    13:25 The actual problem?
    14:46 How can we solve this?
    16:07 Global Examples
    18:06 Frameworks Used by Stakeholders
    18:37 Understanding Nation & State: Importance of a Unified National Purpose
    21:37 Categories of Modern States
    25:01 Hazards of Ideologies
    27:03 Necessary Actions Moving Forward
    31:04 What to expect next?
    33:26 Ending Note
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 580

  • @umerghaffar4686
    @umerghaffar4686 Місяць тому +29

    Here is my take on this issue as I have been interested in this discussion. I believe the following areas can help us greatly push the discussion forward. This is a long comment and I have been carrying these thoughts in my mind. Please keep in mind I am still learning, like all of us are.
    1. Exploration of our history
    Pakistan's history is rich in folklores, mythologies, personalities and wars. When we go deeper into our history, we will learn that people of different religions have called Pakistan home for millennia, it's people have considered Indus River of religious significance (EG: Udero Lal story), people have conceived stories which became so widespread that they became mythologies. Studying contributions of personalities of the past leads us to believe that this land has been a mixture of ideas which have expressed themselves in various forms. For example, Lahore gave birth to Ustad Ahmad Lahori who was recognised for his architectural talent and went on to design the Taj Mahal in Agra and Lal Qila in Delhi. By looking into the names our cities we can discover that not only have people of other faith held strong connection to this land but many places are named after historical rulers who once held power over the land. Village of Mangla is named after Queen Mangaldevi and Muzaffarabad is named after the last Afghan governor of Multan during the Durrani Empire.
    Re-exploring our past will determine who we are. What our people have been historically like. What has this part of the land been known for around the world.
    2. Languages
    If you want to erase an identity, make the people sideline their own language. As someone from North Punjab, I have seen a rising trend among middle class and above families who do not transfer the richness of Punjabi language to the current generation and as a result they become hesitant speaking Punjabi in fear of being perceived as poor and uncivilised. Some even prefer to speak English instead of Urdu which not only throws the chances of establishing a Punjabi identity, but also a broader Pakistani identity.
    Ever since independence, nobody has allowed the native languages much older than Urdu to interact in a new environment to form a new Pakistani identity. If you never allowed the full expression of native cultures and languages in the public sphere, then is it really a surprise that we have been subject to divisions along ethnic lines? Punjab, the most populous province, doesn't own up to its own language and Punjabi communication is not allowed in Punjab govt either. The little ownership that Sindh has taken over Sindhi is limited only to Sindh and there is zero federal framework so that learning and speaking Sindhi is economically viable in the country. In countries like Switzerland, a Swiss can pursue PhD in Sciences in his/her own language because the Swiss govt recognises the linguistic diversity and creates a pathway for them to ascend the economic ladder without forgoing their language.
    Pakistan must own up to its languages without hindrance so that the speakers are able to ascend the economic ladder without their native-language hindering them.
    3. Choosing your own heroes.
    The biggest L I have with the Single-National Curriculum introduced by PTI was that the federal govt began choosing the heroes of the people they govern. For the Baloch people, it is up to them who they look up to. Who's stories they pass on to their children. I am strongly against the idea that somebody sitting a 1000km away in Islamabad has greater power over choosing the heroes of the Baloch people (not just Baloch. you can insert any identity).
    Let the people learn history and choose their heroes. Only then we can arrive at the discussion table more confident in ourselves so that we can discuss on a Pakistani identity.
    4. Local Govt
    Given the diversity of our country, it is imperative that people's voices are allowed to be expressed where they reside. If a city wishes to govern itself in a stricter manner than the rest of the province, then the people's wish must be recognised and the political system must allow that city to govern itself the way it wants regardless of the higher authorities. In the US, the local govt system is strong. This can be seen by noticing how cities like Austin have control over their governance despite being under Texas and govt. Austin is the largest city which ended its parking mandate and now the city is experiencing its fruit.
    In a city as a big as Lahore, there are bound to be liberal and conservative neighbourhoods. Local govt system and power of the vote should allow these neighbourhoods to express themselves systematically.

    • @saminachandio2366
      @saminachandio2366 Місяць тому +2

      very comprehensive and sane viewpoint. appreciated.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @hassantech1862
      @hassantech1862 Місяць тому +2

      your points are accurate thanks for your hard work

    • @MrAhmed-dx5hw
      @MrAhmed-dx5hw Місяць тому +1

      Amazing points.

    • @pharmacistips860
      @pharmacistips860 27 днів тому +1

      Appreciated

  • @MalokShoujaat
    @MalokShoujaat Місяць тому +61

    Youth Ideology:- UK/USA/Canada Passport 😁

    • @MalokShoujaat
      @MalokShoujaat Місяць тому

      @Secular_Guardian Youth koi khatra nahi Ye sirf Molvis Uncles koi hai !

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      Not everyone ...

    • @Johnnygaming89
      @Johnnygaming89 Місяць тому

      @malokshoujaat 😅

    • @harrisbinkhurram
      @harrisbinkhurram Місяць тому +1

      You're generalizing, not everyone.

    • @iburntapizzaonce3356
      @iburntapizzaonce3356 Місяць тому +1

      @@harrisbinkhurramnot everyone but most people

  • @SouthernSeneca
    @SouthernSeneca Місяць тому +60

    Right now it’s not an islamic, secular, communist or capitalist country. It’s just a country that serves its army, where army officers play golf and live in DHA while the poor people die

    • @reez1728
      @reez1728 Місяць тому

      And that’s what the khilafah is. A bunch of unelected elites using religion to enrich themselves and keep people poor and weak.

    • @Adnan-jw8lg
      @Adnan-jw8lg Місяць тому +11

      Not only the army but elites which includes feudals, bureaucracy, politicians, judiciary and its friend and family

    • @SouthernSeneca
      @SouthernSeneca Місяць тому +7

      @@Adnan-jw8lg they take 65% of our budget since 1947. army is the real elite class

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      @@Adnan-jw8lg Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @limopani1187
    @limopani1187 Місяць тому +36

    one of the only few remaining sane voices in the pakistani discourse, kudos muzammil keep up the good work

  • @user-qy6vv8ln2y
    @user-qy6vv8ln2y Місяць тому +4

    Quaid e Azam had given us the ideology.. He said Quran is our constitution... Islam is the best ideology and I believe if there only one person alone Islam protects him, if Islam is implemented in its true spirit.

    • @hamzasohee
      @hamzasohee Місяць тому +2

      One can really keep Islam to himself and implement to his own life, there is no need to "implement" or enforce it on others

    • @whiteholeeducationcenter
      @whiteholeeducationcenter 25 днів тому

      ​Why?
      If God exists and lslam is true religion then laws made by the creator are best suited for his creator.

  • @ahsana.t.6264
    @ahsana.t.6264 Місяць тому +19

    Here's my take. Pakistan is a diverse nation - and something we should celebrate. If you look at the UK, it's essentially 4 countries - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland - each with their own traditions, language and history - yet they are one unified nation. Pakistan should (and kind of does - but not entirely) follow a similar path. Let each area govern itself, apart from foreign relations.
    Secondly - we have too many people who come into power who feel their idea is the way forward, and impose their views. That's when things fail. Let the people decide via the ballot poll whether they want to be liberal or conservative, who they want as their leader etc. They will eventually learn to self-police. The problem is the constant interference.

    • @martin96991
      @martin96991 Місяць тому +2

      Islam is the main reason behind Pakistan's failure. Almost no Islamic country is rich which doesn't have oil. As the oil is reducing in Saudi they are trying to become modern and reducing Islam. Iran was a happy and progressive country before Islam ruined it.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому +1

      @@martin96991 your comment should be ignored....Absolute nonsense

    • @martin96991
      @martin96991 Місяць тому

      @@goals27 when you cannot counter facts.😏

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      @ahsana.t.6264 I partially disagree with you in that we don't always have to look at other nations to decide how we should operate. I see we do that about every topic before discussing Pakistan even and its inherent characteristics and its foundation we bring some other irrelavent country to make our opinion, it stinks of complex we have been for a long long time and our new generation has that complex even more .
      Pakistan should be discussed as a unique country which it is and we should be proud of that like you said as well, I am not saying we can't discuss other countries at all, ofcourse while having discussion we can talk about qualities of some states but that should not kick start our discussion or a main part of it. I have a firm belief Pakistan's prosperity and progress lies in indigenous solutions . I hope you understand my point.

  • @worldgeography2229
    @worldgeography2229 Місяць тому +7

    Bhai simple hai ek Pakistani hindu tha wo central asia se Islamic invasion se musalman hua due to brutality. British wanted a dependable area after independence so they created Pakistan, they also were trying to create Dravidian state in south india but failed as they couldn't divide hindu but they could divide hindu muslim. They had tried that before in bengal in 1905 to divide it on religious lines ( same as Bangladesh )but it backfired . So in 1947 Pakistan was created so the united india dont have access to russia via Afghanistan as indian congress was very pro russia. Pakistan was a artificial state with no ideology bas Pakistan ban naye phir dekhi jayegi. Wo dekhi jayegi me lag gaye . So best thing for Pakistan is accept who they are that is hindu , keep practicing islam as that is their current religion and merge Pakistan with india. Koi army apko rule nahi karegi , current Pakistan se indian parliament ne 90 memeber of parliament hone out of 633 .so without them koi bade decision nahi honge . Democracy rahegi . Common Pakistan logoki bate suni jayegi . Kam hoga . Milkar super power bannge.

    • @afsssd-cz9lk
      @afsssd-cz9lk Місяць тому

      Sahi baat hai abhi hum Iran se sasti gas nhi le parhe kiun ke humari economy weak hai phir dil par Iran se oil or gas lenge Or phir koi hume apni proxy wars main bhi use nhi karpay ga

    • @worldgeography2229
      @worldgeography2229 Місяць тому

      @@afsssd-cz9lk atleast 1 cr homes for poor, free food for poor , subsidized health care , metro of 200 km in karachi , lahore and 100 km in isl and peshawar , better security , as afg border will be secured and india has good relation with afg so can import cheap oil and gas through central asia too . india had plan to build railway in afg. many more benefits.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you guys....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @nikhildeshmukh6221
      @nikhildeshmukh6221 Місяць тому

      Bhai I am kattar liberal with 50 years of successful ruling in India congress ideology.....already I am frustrated with Hindi states himdutva ideology......if both countries United......I'll go mad handling islamic organisations of Pakistan........ religious fundamentalists, especially islamic are hurdle to development. Project India was successful only because jinnah took muslims out of india (mostly religious fundamentalists,landlords and British sipoyees).....and nehru got rid of hindu fundamentalists and created strong foundation....... unfortunately muslims are too religious and hindus distanced themselves from religion.

    • @afsssd-cz9lk
      @afsssd-cz9lk Місяць тому

      @@worldgeography2229 Durand line wala masla phir bhi rahega

  • @arshangurmani6873
    @arshangurmani6873 Місяць тому +4

    I believe we need such healthy objective discussion more often. And honesty is the most important element of such debates.
    Muzamil you are doing wonderful job 👍

  • @hammadhussain4422
    @hammadhussain4422 Місяць тому +3

    Pakistan is not suffering because of identity crisis . Our problem is simple, a ruling elite who have been in a survival mode ... therefore will destroy anything which might appear to them as a threat and will do anything to stay in power no matter how illogical it is .

  • @bekannadiga2054
    @bekannadiga2054 Місяць тому +7

    Confusistaaan 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kashshahzad
    @kashshahzad Місяць тому +11

    Pakistan is a fusion of multiple ethnicities and identity groups. It is situated at the crossroads of ancient Khorasan, Hindustan, Tibet, and Persia. Its forefathers conceived it as a country of experiments, innovation, and a safe sanctuary for the Muslims of the region, virtually identical to India before the British Raj. Its former colonial rulers envisioned it as a continuation of their colony, governed by local proxies instead of directly by them, to avoid bad publicity.
    Today, its inhabitants, comprising roughly 60 identity groups, must navigate out of colonial installed ambiguity and unlock the potential of their resource-rich land. They need to find a path that leverages their diverse but solid cultural foundations. They need to learn to live together as a nation under an equally relatable constitution, similar to the USA.

    • @user-hc9jf6mk6j
      @user-hc9jf6mk6j Місяць тому +2

      Deep word dear 🙏

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Місяць тому +1

      Wow, this must be the comment here tbh

  • @wanderlust9157
    @wanderlust9157 Місяць тому +4

    میں نہیں جانتا پاکستان کا نظریہ کیا ہے لیکن سب انسانوں کو برابری کے حقوق ملنے چاہئے، قانون سب پر برابر لگنا چاہئے، آرمی کو بیرکوں میں ہونا چاہئے سول ادارے مظبوط ہونے چاہئے ہر شخص کو اپنی مذہبی رسومات اور روایات کی ادائیگی کا حق ہونا چاہئے۔۔۔یہ سب کچھ ہونا چاہیے لیکن اگلے دو سو سال بھی یہ ممکن نہیں لگتا

  • @bilalazhar5707
    @bilalazhar5707 17 днів тому

    We need people like you in power but such people are fully aware of the pros and cons of it and majority of them refrain from it.

  • @ranamayer2359
    @ranamayer2359 Місяць тому +17

    meanwhile me answering 9th class board exam of Pakistan Studies for 'Ideolgy of Pakistan' that state instilled deep in my mind...

    • @DWAGON1818
      @DWAGON1818 Місяць тому

      Is that a bad thing? Would it still be bad had the state filled your mind with the ideology that you want Pakistan to be?

    • @OwaiseAli-ye1ej
      @OwaiseAli-ye1ej Місяць тому

      ​@@DWAGON1818as Muslim ideology is already present since centuries why dont you see that? Stockholm syndrome probably

    • @OwaiseAli-ye1ej
      @OwaiseAli-ye1ej Місяць тому +2

      This podcaster is also a victim of Stockholm syndrome. He is complaining that people tell him not to use English. Lie. No one told him that. People only say don't mix English in Urdu when there is a perfect word present in Urdu why do you use 'hum ko inferiority complex hogaya' when you could have kept the language clean by saying 'hum ko ehsas e kamtari hogaya'.
      People like him have mutilated Urdu beyond recognition now. When you ask them why is it that no Italian mixes any language in his Italian no french uses English words to speak french no japanese will use English words to speak his language and they are all developed nations then why you make excuses to always mid english into urdu as a requirement for development ?
      Make your choice this podcaster is only one of many thousands who will blind you to reality.

    • @Talhabashir14
      @Talhabashir14 Місяць тому

      Agar usa nahi Urdu ataa to English usa karna ma koi masla nahi. Urdu and English both are languages

    • @Talhabashir14
      @Talhabashir14 Місяць тому

      @@DWAGON1818 It is a bad thing because state is trying to fill peoples mind with extremist and radical religious ideology

  • @survivor8872
    @survivor8872 Місяць тому +8

    Pakistan ka sab se bra masla hai k Ham apni aulaad (children) ki terbeyat theak nahi kertay. Yeh ker lain sab mil k to ak generation main Pakistan ki kismat change ho sakti uai.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      Dil ki baat mere. I agree, parenting is most important aspect if we are to make things for the better and rise as a powerful nation. Parenting which is based on good values etc . Parents are the ones who can instill great national spirit in their kids as well... That's what we really need

    • @freefireking-ci8yq
      @freefireking-ci8yq Місяць тому

      1000 present 💯

    • @SalikahShah-vm6yo
      @SalikahShah-vm6yo Місяць тому

      agreed

  • @muhammadanas808
    @muhammadanas808 Місяць тому +58

    Based on Quran and Sunnah ! modernity and everything should be under orders of Quran !!!

    • @reez1728
      @reez1728 Місяць тому +15

      Why?

    • @saadasif040
      @saadasif040 Місяць тому +4

      Yeh konsa Quran hai Bhai Maine toh ni parha aisa kuch bhi

    • @motivationultra01
      @motivationultra01 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@saadasif040Islam ko parh Lena tha na bro! Wo bhi Jo parha gauron ka likha hua nai parhna tha. Har jagha Quran e pak kehta hai ke follow it. Khilafat ka nizaam Kya tha aur? ❤

    • @motivationultra01
      @motivationultra01 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@reez1728because human system cannot be better than the Allah's system! You are doing war against Allah, if you support something against it, when our religion has defined a particular thing! The problem I'd most people haven't been able to study it hence the don't know!

    • @Talhabashir14
      @Talhabashir14 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@motivationultra01but islam ka koi political system, economic system or social system nahi haa ISLAM sirf aik mazhab haa

  • @farhannabi.g2g
    @farhannabi.g2g 22 дні тому

    A much needed topic of discussion. Very well put. Please keep this topic alive. It will be great if people with different points of view on this topic are given a chance to discuss and find a common sense of purpose and direction. JazakAllah khair ❤

  • @sinn737
    @sinn737 Місяць тому +2

    Pakistan doesn't suffer much from identity crisis as much as from autocratic state institutions who don't serve people but self interests and interests of western powers. Pakistan would have been the next decimated Libya which was prospering now it is in ruins . This is why nato was residing in Afghanistan to keep pressure on all of south asia for decades though optics were they are fighting talibans alone. Pakistan has no allies and military is in no shape to go to war alone. Pakistan would have been obliterated by India and Nato if Pakistan hadn't sacrificed its prosperity and freedom and that's the trade off military made. Live to fight for another day.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @mohammadabbas4016
    @mohammadabbas4016 Місяць тому +1

    Perfect topic 🙏🏻❤️

  • @youcandoit786
    @youcandoit786 Місяць тому +2

    was looking for something to hear good , so found it

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @M.ADnan360
    @M.ADnan360 Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @sirzafar
    @sirzafar Місяць тому

    A very comprehensive analysis...

  • @shahzebraja7578
    @shahzebraja7578 Місяць тому

    Excellent Analysis Sir 👍👏 27:05-33:24 Absolutely agreed with your Assessment 👍🏻💯

  • @ahelr2419
    @ahelr2419 Місяць тому +6

    Pakistani should built one million madarsa 😊

    • @asadaziz6429
      @asadaziz6429 Місяць тому +1

      Very funny.

    • @MysticSage-hg3jh
      @MysticSage-hg3jh Місяць тому +1

      10 Million Madrassas
      And Allah will Give Oil and Gas to Pakistan

    • @hamzasohee
      @hamzasohee Місяць тому

      One million kam nahi par jaen ge. I mean see the population size it's already touching 250 million.

  • @salwalmad
    @salwalmad Місяць тому +1

    have been waiting for your video for 2 weeks....why so late? i hope you make content consistently. btw i love this series

  • @wajeehashehzad3108
    @wajeehashehzad3108 Місяць тому

    Good topic choose ❤we need this 🎉

  • @muzamilkhan6669
    @muzamilkhan6669 Місяць тому +1

    A good point many people never tried to understand each other

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому +1

      one of the reasons of that there are some elements who have been injected in our society who make us fight within ourselves and making us not to have good discussions/debate about our country and for its betterment. we need to sense that , thwart such attempts and make our bonds more strong , have proper discussions for the betterment of our country , for the better future of coming generation while owning our history , core ideology (two nation theory etc) ...

  • @MohiHash
    @MohiHash Місяць тому +1

    Ham Pakistanio ki flight bohat choti hai. Ham shulwar nation hain, shulwar se bahir hi nahi nikal sakte. Jis sorakh se nikal ker duniya main atey hain usi sorakh ki fikar kerte, usey police kerte and us per theories nikalte zameen ke andar chale jate hain. hamari soch shulwar se bahir hi nahi nikalti ham ne khak progress kerni hai.

  • @Azhar-ThinkSoft
    @Azhar-ThinkSoft Місяць тому +1

    I absolutely agree with you on the "identity crisis.". I have been reviewing and studying the national and global economies, politics, and histories of the major countries globally after all the analyses. The conclusion I came across was the same as what you defined in the video, but much better than mine, as I am not good at explaining it. The whole nation of Pakistan is going through an identity crisis, and you can easily spot it in our day-to-day lives.
    We as a nation need to sit down to talk about the national identity and find common ground on it. Once we do that, we will be able to make better laws, policies, and decisions for the better future of Pakistan and move forward as a nation.
    Also, looking at the diversity of Pakistan, the only major common thing I could find is "Islam," so I believe Islam is the only thing that can unite us as a nation.

  • @tecnosm1001
    @tecnosm1001 Місяць тому +1

    We really appreciate your research work on these topics, its very helpful for us to determine different topics.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @biyaji1
    @biyaji1 Місяць тому

    One of the Reason most people connected with Imran Khan was the Ideology of Pakistan he endorsed and we all related too. Otherwise we all feel scattered because no one else is doing the same thing.

  • @asaddani6735
    @asaddani6735 Місяць тому +5

    We have idealogy, and that is establishment 😅

  • @zaf7794
    @zaf7794 Місяць тому +3

    🎉 PAKISTAN should be further segreagted into 7-8 as individual states under the umbrella of Pakistan. These state should have their own laws, economy, taxation etc. like US and stop the federal control and interference in everything.

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Місяць тому +2

      Well , I do agree with you tbh on the point in the sense that Pakistani provinces are way too large , they need to be further broken into more provinces and more control should be given to individual provinces to deal with their own issues, have their budget and laws etc

  • @shahabrao8995
    @shahabrao8995 Місяць тому +2

    great topic BAHI we have to discuss this issues

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @claudycloudz2458
    @claudycloudz2458 22 дні тому

    Gud topic for brainstorm n debate

  • @musaverleo4522
    @musaverleo4522 Місяць тому

    It was a good debate. Keep it up. JAZAKALLAH KHAIR

  • @raheembhatti4897
    @raheembhatti4897 Хвилина тому

    Maza aya ❤

  • @user-kr1zy8cd6p
    @user-kr1zy8cd6p Місяць тому

    I waited for many days. Love from Sindh ❤😅

  • @fittii0123
    @fittii0123 Місяць тому +1

    Spot on analysis.
    I would say - Pakistan should be a land of sustainable abundance.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      where people have great bond with each other and have great nationalistic spirit and togetherness while enjoying and celebrating our diversity and commonalities

  • @AKAK-rz5jb
    @AKAK-rz5jb Місяць тому

    You are so true Sir.

  • @soha1b__
    @soha1b__ Місяць тому +4

    Balochistan secular??

  • @HamzaPKR
    @HamzaPKR Місяць тому +2

    My answer to the question "Pakistan ka sab se barha masla kya hae" has consistently been that we need to promote and encourage the humanities. You are the very evidence of that Muzammil. People who think about the wider the issues of society ultimately define the course of their nations. The natural sciences in all their glory but there is a reason why the powers thst may be have encouraged them over the humanities. Thinking and questioning human beings is what Pakistan needs the most and yet is also the biggest threat to a status quo.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @IQWaley
    @IQWaley Місяць тому +3

    Ideology is the fundamental basis of any nation..though we've read it in our books..it is a serious topic to "understand" but since we're facing poor literacy rate.. things can't be fixed easily..we need to educate almost our half population.. while looking at the current situation its going to take some serious time..

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset

  • @muhammadriaz9616
    @muhammadriaz9616 Місяць тому

    Agreed, specially identity.

  • @suzuya_96
    @suzuya_96 Місяць тому +7

    Ideologies are important sure, but ideologies/constitution/laws can be changed/amended according to popular public support or need of the time. What our forefathers defined is not set in stone. Dynamics were different back then. We should keep evolving.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      Foundations though can't be changed just like that, you can tweak certain things which are needed but if by that comment you are implying whole ideologies can be put into dustbin and start something new under the name of ' adjusting with time/ requirement of time' is an absolute disaster. instead of promoting that idea we first need to make sure our youth and young ones know the core ideology and why this country was created by our forefathers. We don't even have those discussion with our kids but we are ready to turn on our 70-80 years history, that will not bring any good

  • @technicalassistance18224
    @technicalassistance18224 Місяць тому +1

    For those viewers who wants to know about the identity crises in Pakistan, kindly read the book of Mubarak Ali.

  • @riazhussain546
    @riazhussain546 Місяць тому

    Unity for economic progress and for peace

  • @ideas2068
    @ideas2068 Місяць тому

    I, as a contributor to the national ideology, see myself skeptical regarding my own opinions. Each thought comes with its own counter thought in my mind and the one thing that always keeps me conflicted of my identity is the fact that I know how truth is kept hidden from me by one agency or the other. I don't know what to think or what to consider as an "ideal state" at this point. I'm unable to identify myself.

  • @ahmadjawadhassaan4462
    @ahmadjawadhassaan4462 Місяць тому

    Welcome back player.

  • @abdullahdaniyal114
    @abdullahdaniyal114 Місяць тому

    I love the concept of how German Empire operated.

  • @invostudio9809
    @invostudio9809 9 днів тому

    I have been overseas since last 6 years. never seen any Indian or any other country people fighting like Pakistanis with each other. second thing never seen such a cast system like Pakistani, never seen religious division like Pakistanis. we as a nation are dead people divided into groups etc.

  • @alamicrodev6526
    @alamicrodev6526 Місяць тому +2

    We are the children of the Indus

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset

    • @whiteholeeducationcenter
      @whiteholeeducationcenter 25 днів тому

      We are children of our mother and father

  • @zaf7794
    @zaf7794 Місяць тому +3

    ✨ Pakistan was founded on confused theories and till date their is no policy, direction and vision. Sorry it has turned in to a failed country with bulging population and scarce resources.
    If Pakistan need a future they need to fix schools, colleges, university on international well established examples. The youth of this country needs an excellent education and skills to have a future and country's future is linked with it.
    Secondly public needs grooming, behavioural and ethical education to learn what are goods and bad and how to behave with manners.
    Thirdly madrasa need to be integrated with modern education of science, business and technology otherwise it shouldn't be allowed to operate.
    Lastly country need to end the over religiosity and exploitation in the name of religion. Alhamdullilah we are practicing muslims but we don't need use of religion as a gimmick to exploit and misuse.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      it's not a failed country despite all the problems. this narrative don't have any basis ....if Pakistan has failed then all it's neighbouring countries are failed as well except China

  • @m.shahrukhkhansadiq1648
    @m.shahrukhkhansadiq1648 Місяць тому +6

    That's why uniform national curriculum is so important.

    • @list10s
      @list10s Місяць тому

      Lekin karega kon???

    • @reez1728
      @reez1728 Місяць тому +3

      Do that in Punjabistan then. We don’t want that.

    • @Talhabashir14
      @Talhabashir14 Місяць тому +1

      Us na hi to sab tabah kia haa imran khan wo hi la ka ayaa tha

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Місяць тому

      No , we don't want state it's propaganda anymore down our throats

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @hajrajawaid2808
    @hajrajawaid2808 Місяць тому

    such a fresh unique prespective

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому +1

      I hope such perspective leads to us having nationalistic discourse in near future and we make our bonds strong within our own country and rise like a powerful nation. lack of unity and nationalism is hurting us ...youth seem to have no idea as well how important those links are

  • @ThinkNSpeak_with_Nabeel
    @ThinkNSpeak_with_Nabeel Місяць тому

    All the questions you raised about ideology n identity have very adequate answers in the constitution of Islamic Rebulic of Pakistan which was written n passed in 1973. Please go through it 🇵🇰

  • @muhammadhamzarafaqat34
    @muhammadhamzarafaqat34 Місяць тому

    Good content make more ❤

  • @onlyasma556
    @onlyasma556 Місяць тому

    This episode is not boring at all.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      I agree, i don't know why he said that ...

  • @chintanchheda88
    @chintanchheda88 Місяць тому +1

    Basically he wants Pakistan to be like India. Then why separate? If the reason was Muslims were not safe then today India has more Muslims and doing better if not great. And if Pakistan had not separated, Muslims population would have been more and would definitely have more say then what they have today.

  • @zerotalentkhan
    @zerotalentkhan Місяць тому +3

    I've been saying this for years, we should either go fully secular or fully Islamic. We have, for the greatest part of our liberation, been stuck in the middle and every person has their own varying degree of polarity to each side.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset

    • @nothingmatter-eyo
      @nothingmatter-eyo Місяць тому

      But that is difficult to do because no one wants to leave his extreme position thus Both of them don't want to go in one's direction that could be secular country or theologian state in unity.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому +2

      fully islamic is the only option, solution of all problems lies in that as well. and islamic system is not as scary as people have made image about it. Infact , it's not scary at all.. the only problem is our clerics and influential people have not done any homework on it because it's a complete system and some home work needs to be done while doing research and study about it in detail before we go and implement it ..

    • @nowayhuh
      @nowayhuh Місяць тому

      @@goals27 Our emotional attachment to the religion apart this country can't go 'fully Islamic' because of the sectarian diversity where each hue is stubbornly unaccommodating towards the other. Pakistan needs the implementation of its constitution in letter and spirit where the powers are relegated to the smallest of units at the same time reforming its economy and charting a long term mandatory plan not affected by political changes within its borders. Good relations with its neighbors, modernizing agriculture, controlling population, investment in STEM education are some additional requirements among many others.

    • @goals27
      @goals27 Місяць тому

      @@nowayhuh that's old repeated lines you said which can't be implemented just like that. Fully islamic is a requirement , Infact a necessity now considering all kind of issues that have engulfed us Including tons of Social issues to which nobody/no system has any solution, if anything every other current system is perfect for making issues even more complicated and worse

  • @MuhammadAbbas-wk9ru
    @MuhammadAbbas-wk9ru Місяць тому

    بہت خوب 👍🏻
    میں بھی اسی نتیجہ تک پہنچا ہوں ابھی تک!!

  • @ShabbirAliKanchwala
    @ShabbirAliKanchwala Місяць тому

    Bro i just wish your voice reach the "DECISION MAKERS" of our country.. as AWAM bechari kia ideology pe soche jisko apna roz ka kamana hai aur khana hai..

  • @Integrity-2025.
    @Integrity-2025. Місяць тому

    Zbrdast

  • @NoumanArif007
    @NoumanArif007 Місяць тому +1

    I consider Pakistan and India similar to Canada and USA, both Pakistan and India by culture and heritage the same countries. Its hard for Canada to identify it as a different country from US as both countries pretty much watch the same sports and TV programming, US calls Canada as another State of US, which is not appreciated in Canada :)

    • @gouthamsudheer2080
      @gouthamsudheer2080 20 днів тому

      Your completly false.
      The difference between India and Pakistan is like the difference between USA and Mexico (not US and Canada).

  • @syedaafsoon8244
    @syedaafsoon8244 21 день тому

    میرے نزدیک جب تک خود آگاہی عام نہیں ہو گی ہم انفرادی طور پر اپنا نظریہ قائم کرنے کے قابل نہیں ہو سکتے اور نہ سٹیٹ کسی ایک نظریہ پر اکتفاء کر سکے گی ۔
    بیشتر پاکستانیوں سے بات چیت کرنے سے پتہ چلتا ہے انہی ملکی معاملات سے کوئی سروکار نہیں ذیادہ تر ریوڑ کی طرح ہیں جس کا سربراہ جس طرف چاہے موڑ دیتا ہے اور ہم میں صلاحیت نہیں کہ ہم اس گرو کے سربراہ کے نظریے کو چیلنج بھی کر سکیں ۔
    بڑی مچھلیاں اپنے مفادات کی خاطر نظریے کو آگے پیچھے کرتے رہتے ہیں اور کرتے رہے گے
    سوال یہ ہے اتنی بڑی آبادی خود اگاہی کا سفر کیسے طے کرے گی تو اسکا آسان سا حل ہے ہمیں خود کیساتھ سچا ہونا ہو گا ۔
    اپنی تاریخ کا مطالعہ ، دیگر قوموں کو پڑھنا یہ سب بعد کے لیکن بہت اہم پوائنٹ ہیں

  • @wage182
    @wage182 Місяць тому

    Good thesis. Just one small point that specific term of “Nazriya Pakistan” is coined for the reason to have separate state.
    نظریہ پاکستان سے مراد یہ تصور ہے کہ متحدہ ہندوستان کے مسلمان، ہندوؤں، سکھوں اور دوسرے مذاہب کے لوگوں سے ہر لحاظ سے مختلف اور منفرد ہیں ہندوستانی مسلمانوں کی صحیح اساس دین اسلام ہے اور دوسرے سب مذاہب سے بالکل مختلف ہے، مسلمانوں کا طریق عبادت کلچر اور روایات ہندوؤں کے طریق عبادت، کلچر اور روایات سے بالکل مختلف ہے۔ اسی نظریہ کو دو قومی نظریہ بھی کہتے ہیں جس کی بنیاد پر 14 اگست 1947ء کو پاکستان وجود میں آیا۔
    Muzammil is using it as an ideology to act as a framework for all current Pakistanis to move together as a nation.

  • @whiteholeeducationcenter
    @whiteholeeducationcenter 25 днів тому

    6:08
    Chai (tea )units us all

  • @mahmad8651
    @mahmad8651 Місяць тому

  • @mobeenhameed2843
    @mobeenhameed2843 Місяць тому +1

    I will disagree a bit here. I dont believe it is possible or even practical to aim for a concensus core belief. Neither is our environment conducive to any discussions and debate. Seems to me we will just waste a lot more time, fail to reach a central core. Instead, let us move forward with the common derivatives of each ideology. For example, all ideologies in the end want prosperity of its people so let us make that our north star. Meanwhile let democracy take its path, and let the people decide which way they want to go and everyone can present his ideologies to the public to decide. Yes these above statements seem like an ideology in itself, but it tries to circumvent that there needs to be a specific reason for prosperity. This is a philosophical question so I find many contradictions and question marks in my own thinking but this is a rough sketch.

  • @kjkhanyt-
    @kjkhanyt- Місяць тому

    Identity crisis can be one of the issue but how it can be fundamental of all issues

  • @whiteholeeducationcenter
    @whiteholeeducationcenter 25 днів тому

    This was predicted by Molana Abdul Kalam Azad in 1946.

  • @Godz711
    @Godz711 Місяць тому +1

    Meanwhile Raisi is dead and Turkiye got perfectly tailored approach to advertise their Akinci Drones to the world...we r stuck...those personal egos of the uniformed touts r ruining this country day by day

  • @ZainAhmadKhan
    @ZainAhmadKhan Місяць тому +1

    I would like to add another dimension to your discourse. I think the ideology should be chosen based on the stage the nation is at and ideology should be allowed to evolve when the nation progresses. For example, I think China in its infancy did right using the communist conservative mindset to mature as a nation. But going forward I think China should evolve to democracy. The priority of the people now is not related to poverty but related to finer things in life which democracy is more apt for.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @haroonafridi231
    @haroonafridi231 Місяць тому +1

    We should celebrate our deferences each providence should govern independently except for foreign relations
    Because making everyone same same in every way won't work and it would not make them united.
    But unifying ideology of our country, i don't know about that

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Місяць тому +1

      I agree with you, I also feel the same way about this topic of Pakistani identity

  • @Basitkhan-ci3gm
    @Basitkhan-ci3gm Місяць тому

    Agh kal Pakistan ki idiology SIFC he, abh dekhy ye idiology aik bare tayenati se tabdeel hoti he ya nahu

  • @aliusmanbajwa6422
    @aliusmanbajwa6422 Місяць тому +1

    We are NOT a Nation but a SET of NATIONS.
    Rule of law
    Provincial autonomy
    Application of the rules of a true federation
    A VERY NEW SOCIAL CONTRACT
    Could change the game

    • @hamzasohee
      @hamzasohee Місяць тому

      Someone said it 👏👏

  • @laraibkhatoon1337
    @laraibkhatoon1337 Місяць тому

    Muzzamil bhai Ideology of Pakistan ke definition is there in our Lahore board Class 9th class book of Pakistan studies And what I recall was the most important question. Funny take is I don’t remember. We can go for new social contract but I have a question will that be without any interference of external involvement?
    (I am loving this videos This new partner while I cook. Looking forward more videos)

  • @waseemchaudhary3138
    @waseemchaudhary3138 Місяць тому +1

    Pakistan's ideology should be based on something that the majority can relate with. I think it is "Islam" 🕋
    The reasoning behind it is that even the Liberals in Pakistan identify themselves as MUSLIMS. We don't have ATHEIST SECULARS like the ones in Western countries.
    Therefore, I think that having a MODERN ISLAMIC WELFARE STATE (similar to Qatar with some modifications according to our culture and traditions) is the framework that will be acceptable for the majority of people in Pakistan

    • @SYED_SHAH07
      @SYED_SHAH07 7 днів тому

      I’m a secularist and you’ll be surprised at how many people support it. One day we’ll take Pakistan back to what it was in the 60s, not the bs hypocrisy it is now.

    • @waseemchaudhary3138
      @waseemchaudhary3138 7 днів тому

      @@SYED_SHAH07 Good job Mr. Troller. Keep spaming! 👍

  • @muhammadsaad3513
    @muhammadsaad3513 25 днів тому

    If only those who migrated towards Pakistan after partition saw this debate what would they think? Were they confused this much while migrating towards Pakistan
    While doing this debate the argument of blood of the migrators should never be excluded out of the equation

  • @Thug-Life-
    @Thug-Life- Місяць тому +1

    Bohat km log hai jo 30 min denge tumhari baat sun ne k liye topic jo bhi ho agr koi interested bhi hoga to wo bhi ye dekh k nahi click karega video pe

  • @AnasNAhmed
    @AnasNAhmed Місяць тому

    Pakistan’s Identity crisis, I agree. But founding fathers just wanted religious free inclusive of religious and non-religious minorities.

  • @G47FF
    @G47FF Місяць тому

    28:05 Definition of ideology is written in every single book of Pakistan studies in 9th and 12th along with two nation theory and ideology of Pakistan

  • @hamzasohee
    @hamzasohee Місяць тому +2

    Good governance and a strong economy is the only ideology any nation needs.

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Місяць тому

      True

    • @saeed-ali-uet
      @saeed-ali-uet Місяць тому

      مولوی تمہیں کیا کہتے ہیں ۔ کبھی کسی مولوی یہ عالم سے ملے بھی ہو کیا۔ باقی یہ جو الفاظ توں نے استعمال کیے ہیں۔ یہ بس بولنے کی حد تک خوبصورت لگتے ہیں۔ اللّٰہ تعالیٰ آپکو ہدایت عطا فرمائے ۔

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

    • @Hujjathullah-fz7qh
      @Hujjathullah-fz7qh Місяць тому

      An unIslamic Pakistan would not just be a doomed entity, even with nuclear arms, but would be an ACURSED entity too. A non-Islamic Pakistan is just a wasteage of time, please re-merge with India to recreate a SECULAR "pariahdize" if not a real paradise ! If good governance and powerful economy are the bottomlines sought, then surrender your sovereignty to either Switzerland or Singapore, these states though with their own flaws, are nonetheless doing exceedingly well in those criterias, joining them would take Pakistan to the mundane pinnacle, just forget about the Hereafter, though !😂

    • @hamzasohee
      @hamzasohee Місяць тому

      @@Hujjathullah-fz7qh is there a condition to have an islamic state in this world to enter paradise after death??

  • @user-sx4mq6zn9o
    @user-sx4mq6zn9o Місяць тому

    Good subject. If new philosophy is not chosen that is showing respect to other religions, Pakistan will be broken from with in . No outsiders are needed.

  • @shaheerishfaq1271
    @shaheerishfaq1271 Місяць тому

    What about the two nation theory? Wasn't this country made because the founders wanted a Muslim majority state? But why? For freely practicing Islam? No idea about this one.

  • @princesalman5231
    @princesalman5231 Місяць тому

    bro kashgar pakistan m nhi h

  • @haroonshahzad533
    @haroonshahzad533 Місяць тому

    Leata 10 minta good bro👍👍

  • @HammadWebDev
    @HammadWebDev Місяць тому

    Having resided abroad for nearly a decade in China and Europe, I have come to realize that the bonds I form with certain individuals are often rooted in shared experiences and commonalities. These connections are typically based on elements such as food, history, language and its nuances, culture, and sports.
    From my observations, it is evident that people universally desire to be treated with dignity and respect. They expect fair and humane treatment not only from their peers but also from governmental authorities.
    I hold the view that an individual's religious beliefs are a deeply personal aspect of their spiritual journey, shaped by their understanding and life experiences. Therefore, it is not a matter of importance to me what specific religion someone follows.
    I consciously distance myself from individuals who attempt to impose their personal views upon me, regarding such behavior as toxic and indicative of a closed-minded approach to life.
    Additionally, I strongly believe that our educational system is in dire need of reform. It should focus on teaching children about diversity and inclusion, rather than fostering an "us versus them" mentality.
    In summary, I envision a Pakistan that embraces an identity and constitution where diversity is celebrated, religious and personal beliefs are respected, the legal system is grounded in justice, and the value of human life is paramount.

    • @avinashmishra7735
      @avinashmishra7735 Місяць тому

      Let me ease it for you....The core of Pakistan's ideology is Anti-India ( Hindu Hatred to be specific).
      All those buildups like "Model of Islam", "Riyasat-e-Madina", "Land of the Pious", "Ghazawa-e-Hind", "Islamic Secularism", "Allah's creation on 27th Ramazan", "Islamic Welfare Society", "Land of Minority", "Unfinished Agenda of Muhammad-bin-Qasim", "Freedom from Hindu brahmins and baniyas", "Shariah Lifestyle", "Betrayal of Congress", "Garrison State", "creation of destiny", "British Plan to stop Communist USSR", "Jinnah - one man army", "Security State", "Land of Land Owners", "Opportunities for Muslims", "Freedom from Polytheism and Caste System", "Enlightened Converts of Indus Valley", "No ideology is the best ideology", etc. are just various kind of mutations of Hindu-Hatred just to self-convince "no matter how, but our ancestors did the right thing to convert to Islam".
      It's a classic way of hiding inferiority complex by manfacturing superiority complex. I don't need to prove this in any otherway than by just giving a brief analysis of the founder of Pakistan i.e., Jinnah's mindset. Let anyone from Pakistan respond to it first, I'll write in another reply.

  • @mujeebkhan8030
    @mujeebkhan8030 Місяць тому

    Unfortunately we don't have any identity rather suffering from identity crisis

  • @youcandoit786
    @youcandoit786 Місяць тому +4

    Identity Crises, as Sahil Adeems says

    • @RajaMohsinDaniyal
      @RajaMohsinDaniyal Місяць тому +3

      Muslim identity 💯

    • @asharsiddique803
      @asharsiddique803 Місяць тому

      Sahil Adeem joker is basically exploiting the identity crisis. And making money.

    • @reez1728
      @reez1728 Місяць тому +3

      @@RajaMohsinDaniyal😂😂😂😂

    • @Trilok_world
      @Trilok_world Місяць тому +2

      ​@@RajaMohsinDaniyal Ummah ka chummah in Kyrgyzstan🇰🇬 .

    • @MysticSage-hg3jh
      @MysticSage-hg3jh Місяць тому +2

      @@RajaMohsinDaniyal Converted Rajput, Raja Mohsin 😏😊

  • @uzairahmed2185
    @uzairahmed2185 Місяць тому +1

    ap ne na quaid ko quote e kiya na iqbal ko, disappointed sir. ya thumbnail na rkhty. ideology k process pr video bnaya h, acha tha lkn thumbnail b accordingly dete.

  • @wilddreams6301
    @wilddreams6301 Місяць тому

    There's this channel on UA-cam called, "explained with dom"
    He describes in a video all the problems going on with the countries we think are going very well and also the countries we know aren't going very well.
    Watching that also if you just look up a little more on the topic you'd know every country has it's problems some with more some with Pakistan is from the one's with a lot of problems, sadly, but should we just sit and complain about it, no! We shouldn't just complain but we should educate ourselves and bring the change or maybe atleast take steps towards tge change which is necessary to make our country a better place to be in! If every generation will just keep crying about the way situations are and the way our country is working, things will not change they'll stay the same forever because no one is and ever was ready to bring change...

  • @muhammadriaz9616
    @muhammadriaz9616 Місяць тому

    And 18 th amendment has practically made four countries from one.

  • @awaisshab
    @awaisshab 16 днів тому

    👍

  • @qasim_5454
    @qasim_5454 Місяць тому

    First comment ❤

  • @sprinkleroilfish
    @sprinkleroilfish Місяць тому

    Ye banda badhiya bolta hai.

  • @MoniAli-cn9ni
    @MoniAli-cn9ni Місяць тому +1

    Pakistan is indus valley civilization

  • @JackAdams-tv2xg
    @JackAdams-tv2xg Місяць тому

    Damn

  • @ProPakistani-bc3sy
    @ProPakistani-bc3sy Місяць тому

    Oh

  • @ZentaCross
    @ZentaCross Місяць тому

    Identifying your Ideology can be a little problem, butt the real problem occurs in Implicating that Ideology, According to me, The solution is to have a healthy debate with all the ideologies and have a roadmap on which all the Ideologies agree with each other, and Implications start with education. Not a rocket science I guess