"For Oda to avoid revealing so much about the Void centure so soon" He says while talking about chapter 1112 of a manga that started almost 30 years ago
I mean, after waiting all this while, with bits of information slowly shoveled in over the course of 30 years, all of this within a single arc does seem too soom
It's the pacing of the reveals he is talking about. This arc has had some intense weeks like Kuma/Bonneys flashbacks. A good author paces giant reveals so it keeps the readers jaws on the ground, otherwise you get a "sugar high" from taking in too much and lose interest. I'm certainly enjoying the gurgle, gurgle, gurle of information we've been getting.
Mars: HOW DO I SEND THE EMAIL. York: You just type in the email adresss of the recipient and then- Mars: WHERE DO THEY LIVE? York: No, Mars, and email address is- Mars: THIS YOUNG MAN SAYS HES A PRINCE AND WANTS TO GIVE ME MONEY. WHERE IS MY CHECK BOOK? York: Wait, Mars, hold on!
Honestly we assume that it waking up is current time, but might be smth that happens in future, so later on in the arc. Someone would have said smth about the big ass giant robot otherwise.
For me Yorks "sins" line was more referring to Stella VP studying the Void Century and a second "sin" being to have failed with her murderplan and thus creating a headache for the Elders.
Not even the half of it either. The Blackbeard Pirates now able to impersonate one of them, The Rebels in general and even Jaguar D. Saul preserving the knowledge they sought to destroy is all coming back to bite them for their sins.
There's already the theory that Blackbeard is a failed Rocks clone experiment floating around, so if we see that MADS already has a rocks clone would be incredible
@@Alex-bs5sd well get used to it mate lol Cloning has been a thing since we were introduced to the Germa, and EggHead has DEFINITLY featured a lot of the concept.
What if Mars destroying the streaming snail is the true Dead Man's Switch or a backup switch to quickly start up the message. The first switch is to force the Gorosei's hand and have them come to Egghead if Vegapunk had any reason to suspect they had a way to quick travel. The second switch, which is the snail's demise, is because Vegapunk surmised the situation must be extremely dire if the snail were to be destroyed, but ripe for exposing the World Government and thus immediately begins the transmission.
I always interpreted haki is used more often than we realize, but only somewhat advanced haki users can see it. Like how we all know that haki was used early in the plot, but it wasn't shown as that black coating effect until we learned about it. In my view, the black coating isn't actually there, it's just a representation of what a trained haki user sees. So when we see a fight from the perspective of someone without haki mastery against a haki user, we don't see the haki even if it's being used. Maybe I'm just coping to make a plot convenience seem like it was planned, but I think the story reads better like that.
No it definitely is the case since Haki was used all the way back with Zoro in Alabasta which I believe used both perception and armament haki in that final moment against Daz Bones
I still feel like the 10min were just a bait to get the 5 elders to rampage on egghead and Vegapunk is recording or even already secretly live streaming just that right now. So the message is: "the world is run by monsters, here's a Livestream of these monsters trying to kill me before I can tell you."
I doubt Oda is aware of it, but there is a comedy heavy metal album called Ziltoid. In it the mc is looking for the ultimate cup of coffee to power his omniverse traveling spaceship.
@@matt8258 But garp is said to be as powerfull if not more then an Admiral, he just didn't took the job, cause he wanted the freedom to do what he wanted
They just got power cliffed massively. Happens to every group in One piece. Don’t know why everyone’s so shoct. Plus the crew have obviously gotten stronger
I doubt that Vegapunk left that snail there without some sort of defense system, It would need to be something able to deter anyone, including the Elders, so i doubt it's going to be a weapon. My personal favorite is a simple wiring hack: the snail is wired in a way so that destroying it or stopping the message in any way will fry the lines the message is using, in this case, the ENTIRETY of the WG communication line. That way Mars has a nice choice to make: does he stop the message and destroy the WG's comms or does he do nothing and allows VP to do his big reveal?
I've been curious, would Amber Lead poison the Gorosei even with their regenration abilities? Or could VP have used some sort of sea prisim stones trap? I think the bubbles was Rocks D Xebec in a tank. BB is from a winter island, Egghead is a winter island. BB knows the DF encyclopedia, so does VP who said the gum gum fruit isn't a thing. BB has ties to Xebec if he named his ship after him, he also looks like a Buccaneer to some degree and has their durability it seems. Maybe BB was just a failed chimera before CP0 Stussy was mixed with a vampire from Lulusia or Monet was crossed as a harpy. Maybe Rocks crew betrayed him like Joyboys friends did and Buckingham Stussy gave his body to VP to hide and VP couldn't help but experiment?
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Likely yes like Enel he has advanced observation haki and felt the snail that is also transmitting the message. Still worth asking what is he horrified at?
Something that seems to be getting a little overlooked right now is that Mars seemed to use the voice of all things when he was looking for the transponder snail. At least York thinks he was talking about the snail.
I dont know why people keep bringing up that lifeforce Mars sensed. That is clearly shown to be the Transponder Snail he sensed. He literally said that in the same page.
Mars reminds of Saruman the White from Lord of the Rings. He has the evil wizard look to him. Which seems quite fitting since he flies around like Fellbeast
@@SultaiSamurai to me it always seemed like Gan Fall knew more than he let on about Haki and I don't think he had wings like the other Skypeians(could be wrong). So did he come from the blue sea, or even come from the God's Knights but maybe left 38 years ago when God Valley happened? Maybe he is similar to the Donquixote family and he fled Mariejois long ago, but his brother stayed? I like him as a character but I can't help think he will come around in the story again. Just theories, if you have any I love spitballing ideas to see what sticks.
@@Pickn4Gold yeah I dont think he has wings only a cape. He definitely felt foreign to Skypiea just like Enel. I think Pierre is how he got there. He looks around Garling's age who is also a Holy Knight.
@@SultaiSamurai I kinda figured Pierre was how he got around the Sky Islands at the very least. Need a Pierre vs Stronger(Doc Q) fight...lol I hope in two years(or whenever) when Straw Hats get the Grand Fleet together Gan Fall shows up ready to fight alongside, and when he sees his brother Mars they're just like "evil traitor" and we find out how the Gorosei got their positions. To me it seems Cipher Pol moves up to God's Knight if needed, and God Knight moves up to Gorosei if needed. I mean who is really going to question Imu or the Gorosei if they say "oh this new guy, he was born here in Mariejois but he has been out fighting for us because he's very powerful and you're not."(wink wink, nod nod)
12:10 Imagine yourself as an invulnerable unstoppable person trying to 'defeat' a building full of people locked inside. How long will it take? Just to walk around and find them, then what 10 seconds to defeat someone? You'd be there all day. Elders don't have time for that.
From what we know, Xebec has gone so far as attacking the world nobles but he hasn't been praised by Imu, hasn't made the Gorosei go out of their way to deal with him or anything. He can't be THAT scary to Mars.
I always thought he might be transmitting the message through the marines and showing them something (vegacoffee shit) but showing the people the real thing
Mars was able to hear "Voice" of transponder snail. He looks so much familiar to God and can hear voice of things. He must be somehow related to Skypia.
My personal theory: What if 200 years ago, when the iron robo giant invaded Marie jois, was actually being controlled by one of the 5 elders at the time who ate the Nika fruit and eventually got connected to gods Wi-Fi. Maybe that why Saint Jupiter looks younger out of the rest of them. He’s the replacement. Idk like if you think so too.
I think the 5 elders weren't introduced with their devil fruits bc they are the original users of those zoan forms. Vegapunk said people's wills and desires led to new evolutions resulting in devil fruits, the 5 elders were some of those people. And their devil fruits don't exist yet because they haven't died
It might sound weird, but Seraphim Kaido? Vegapunk seemed to care a lot about trying to 'perfect' the clone to the fruit, and with the rox pirate clones being "weevil" and Stussy, seeing more of them pop up would real nice to see. Though I wouldn't know how to feel with a Kaido clone "right" after he was defeated in his arc
the sound is vegapunk in a capsule, he's a clone but a better version cuz he used kuma's ability to copy memories so the clone has the actual vegapunk's memories as if he never died .. vegapunk was about to die but he said he needs to protect something, but HOW can he do that when he's gonna die if he moves. so he didn't wanna leave the island and he needed to stay there so when he dies, the signal gets sent so the recording broadcasts and the new clone wakes up (ODACCHI's theory)
I'm expecting that if it's a twist it's going to be Gorosei Seraphim. I like the idea of Rocks and/or the Rocks pirates but pretty much any clone is going to be exciting. Garp, Roger, Shanks, -Luffy-. Lot of potential there.
I think the bubbles was the traitor York in a stasis tube, gurgle gurgle is it running like the Seraphim being held in stasis tanks. Mars just realized the York he left was a fake and was wasting his time, which is why she was so helpful in sending Mars up to Punk Records.(possibly the one Mars saw was a hologram, I don't think we saw Mars touching her)Could also be Rocks, who's crew betrayed him like Joyboys crew and was hidden in this room in Punk Records no one else has access to but Stella. Lastly it could be a clone of Saturn, who told Kizaru in 1074 he had met the real Vegapunk before. Iron Oars(we will have our jaws on the ground when we hear it speak in the anime) gets charged by the Awakened Nika Fruit, but can operate for a while on that "battery". 200 years ago either 1) another Nika user awakened and fell in battle near where Iron Oars we being stored, but as we see now on Egghead the user has to be close enough to project the drums of liberation or Iron Oars would have awoken when Luffy awakened on Wano one of the closest islands to Egghead. Or 2) Toki sent the Iron Oars forward from the end of the void century with enough battery to climb the red line, but it ran out of juice at the end. Lithium, a material we make many modern batteries from is also white like Joyboy so he could be recharging it. [I also think Amber Lead plays into the "battery", Vegapunk hasn't been able to duplicate the power system and Amber Lead was banned when Law was a kid because the Gorosei feared more power sources from Amber Lead not because it killed the "insects" who mined it. Lithium mining is very dirty for the enviroment, and I think Oda is spinning some of his real world concerns into his story like great authors do. Godzilla was a warning about nuclear weapons for example.]
Kaku made me realize something with his repulsive appearance comment. Everyone on Egghead, The Marines, The Vice Admirals, all of them now know that the gorosei are demons. Based on their reaction to Sabo, Cobra, and Wapol finding out about that…the punishment for knowing this information…is Instant Death.
In a world full of Zoans, seeing some guy with these appearances is not that weird. Yes it is monstrous but they can easily interpret it as zoans forms (that is likely what it is). And marines below the rank of rear admiral definility have no idea about the gorosei monstrous forms. Imagine the sheer number of marines across the world, do you think the goverment would reveal that stuff to them? They can not even look to the gorosei without being punished by death. Even the vice admirals must have been taken by surprise but like i said they would just think it is a zoan form. Only admirals and cypher pol aigis 0 agents, who works directly for the goverment, would likely know about that beforehand.
@@Piss-l9i honestly, small difference, they’ve been hiding those forms from the celestial dragons, but go ahead, congratulations, you picked one sentence out of a comment and made someone look stupid on the internet…are you happy?
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Personally I’ve always wondered ever since we learned some devil fruits have a will of their own that the bad taste is the result of the wrong person eating them. Since devil fruits are manifestations of desire it could be each devil fruit is tailor made, meaning the bad taste everyone who’s ever eaten a devil fruit complains about is confirmation they weren’t the right person for that fruit or the fruit doesn’t want them as a user. That could also mean Luffy not complaining about the taste since we know he doesn’t like all food now is proof the Nika Nika fruit choose him.
Exactly! The whole crew should have the basic haki to make their victory more credible. If the rest of the crew doesn’t have a haki against the BBP it’s nonsense.
Looking at the chapter again it seems like Franky's opponent was using armament haki. In the build up panel his hand is pure white and then in the destruction photo it is coated in black.
This may be a stretch, but i am reminded of another *Iron Giant* that ended up sacrificing itself to stop a nuke plummeting down to destroy a town. IF Oda is showing homage to the 1999 film, then i feel like we already know our terrible fate for our sleeping friend.
Franky is like haki himself because he's metal. Let's assume haki makes your body hard like metal but it depends on the level of haki and the type of metal.
I believe that in the incubator it could be a clone of Xebec himself called Roche Thomson who went back to Egghead to heal from the injuries inflicted on him due to Blackbeards jailbreak as he was previously an inmate from Level 5.
Vegapunk's Stella is just the Main Body. Never said it was the main brain, I believe why the other vegapunks are still working is because they are being fed info by the brain.
One thing I'm thinking as a theory is that the iron giant was improvised and the role was meant to go to zuneshia originally during the Kaido fight. They're both giant, both showed up talking about a history of joy boy, and both wanted to be there at his return. Since Zuneshia left without doing basically anything, I'm thinking Oda moved that plot point to the giant as a new character.
11:59 - I think it's because Pride... This is the first time the Five Elders have taken action in the common world out of pure necessity and obligation. Due to Vegapunk's imminent threat to expose everything, they were too prideful to act before because they don't minggle with "insects"
Keep in mind that Haki isn't always visible. It's safe to assume that their haki using opponents did use it against them. It's safe to assume Sasaki used it against Franky for example. People hit Luffy with haki without it showing sometimes for example and observation isn't really shown to be in use when it's being used because there's no visual cues unless they do the saying out loud where you'll hit thing which has gotten old at this point.
I think queen vs sanji is a good example of haki user vs (primarily) non haki user for example when queen used his constriction attack he said it’s strong enough to take out the strongest of haki users implying the attack does not use it
11:59 I think not showing their true forms and tolerating pirates to a certain degree is in the five elders interest. It gives the marines a reason to exist and therefore the government a reason to collect taxes, it forms a union against the unruly and dangerous pirates and brings strong people in search of justice under their control while also profiting from the pirate's infighting. In a similar way that the "empty throne" exists, even though it is secretly occupied.
Brook holds the key to hurting the gorosei. The way he hurts homies. Which are yokai made from big mom soul. Now we have actual kaiju yokai . Oda is cooking with this set up. 🔥
I in particular have a theory . Vegapunk is going to reveal a name or something in very end but the message got destroyed and his final words from that is a broken audio message
2:18 "a living being" like the _snail_ we literally see and was quite poorly described by York. Because as far as I am concerned it's body is way more triangular than it's shell...
If there was a secret message In the 10 mins I think vega punk would say, hey play the recording in reverse x times speed so the message is already out
I also see a big connection between the iron giant and liberty prime from fallout three. Maybe one of the five elders it’s gonna do like a bomb attack and the iron giant is gonna catch it and then throw it like a football.
In chapter 1066 when Shaka is talking to Robin, he talks about the discovery of a machine from the void century and we never hear about it again because we get distracted by Saul being alive. I wonder if that machine was re-created and that’s what Mars is seeing in punk records. It being VP brain makes sense but maybe it’s connected to this ancient machine?
I really just want his message to be a inspirational speech that is sorta a chat bubble taking up every panel so it’s just silent action and chaos as vegapunk starts to explain how impactful hope is.
The clone of Rocks idea is pretty interesting and led me to my own idea. The arc has been largely to do with control over the pacifistas and the power switching between groups. I wonder if there's something that would control or influence the elder planets, but the only thing I thought of was Imu. Im predicting Imu won't be of the humans but will be of a race/deity seen very briefly on Skypia, that of Vearth (chap 244). The body shape looks like it could match the silhouette of Imu and would give an elder planet at least pause for thought. If vegapunk had access to the DNA it could have been cloned and could actually as a failsafe towards the elder planets if they are unable to disobey orders from that race. Some of the questions of the void century could perhaps be answered also (though it's more likely this mainly all comes from Ohara and vegapunks technological and historical finds). I realise all this is very very unlikely to pass but I've had fun thinking and theorising Imu is Vearth for these past few years at least and that it could affect the storyline.
Great point about Goro's needing to stay inconspicuous. Saturn said it had been a while, maybe this 1st time Goro's got to boxing like this in centuries. Also those hairy horses are magical
The idea that the giant just falls back to sleep and that's the end of it is funny. Even if we do get to point where questions could be answered, Oda could always just avoid showing us. Again.
I believe what mars is seeing, is 3 of the newest Seripham (Law, Whitebeard Jr., Buggy) but their unfinished, hence why the gurgling/bubbling sounds. They are freed to ensure Vegapunk's message goes out. But because their unfinished, they start melting and eventually die. Hopefully they last long enough for Vegapunk's message.
"When are Law and Kid reappearing?" - For Christ, kid is probably dead and law is a fan-favourite, so he gets saved instead of also getting kid'dead If Kid reappears, it would make the Shanks scene much less dramatic.
Seeing Mewtwo in the incubation pod when talking about clones was perfect
Didn't even notice that!
Timestamp?
@@pieterhofkens7259 1:24
I don't get the reference but I like women who are built like Mewtwo
So you like men? @@javi4591
"For Oda to avoid revealing so much about the Void centure so soon"
He says while talking about chapter 1112 of a manga that started almost 30 years ago
I mean, after waiting all this while, with bits of information slowly shoveled in over the course of 30 years, all of this within a single arc does seem too soom
It's the pacing of the reveals he is talking about. This arc has had some intense weeks like Kuma/Bonneys flashbacks. A good author paces giant reveals so it keeps the readers jaws on the ground, otherwise you get a "sugar high" from taking in too much and lose interest. I'm certainly enjoying the gurgle, gurgle, gurle of information we've been getting.
It’s still feels too soon lol
Thx ...thats what i thought as well ...😅😂
The iron giant and zunesha reuniting like old friends would be great to see.
Mars: HOW DO I SEND THE EMAIL.
York: You just type in the email adresss of the recipient and then-
Mars: WHERE DO THEY LIVE?
York: No, Mars, and email address is-
Mars: THIS YOUNG MAN SAYS HES A PRINCE AND WANTS TO GIVE ME MONEY. WHERE IS MY CHECK BOOK?
York: Wait, Mars, hold on!
Wow. This is a great comment.
😂😂😂
Even after finally waking up when sensing Joyboy at last, the Iron Giant is still taking a very slow walk.
by the way, now that gear 5 has run out... whatsup with him?
ODA keeps teasing 😈 him and his the only thing I’m very excited about to see before we leave this island
@@truffle6082, a big robot is the least interesting thing. We need legit reveals.
@@MihawkTopOnewe’re prob gonna get mini Gorosei backstory and maybe more nika lore
Honestly we assume that it waking up is current time, but might be smth that happens in future, so later on in the arc. Someone would have said smth about the big ass giant robot otherwise.
Hear me out : Zoro rides Chopper into battle to fight Ethan’s hybrid form
💀😭😂
At least he'd actually get there without any detours
That would be hard, chopper going monster point and dropping to all fours
Docking
Wait, now I want this
For me Yorks "sins" line was more referring to Stella VP studying the Void Century and a second "sin" being to have failed with her murderplan and thus creating a headache for the Elders.
Not even the half of it either. The Blackbeard Pirates now able to impersonate one of them, The Rebels in general and even Jaguar D. Saul preserving the knowledge they sought to destroy is all coming back to bite them for their sins.
Thats true
I like your idea but the executioner of punishment is for sure Imu. Probably some kind of point system as for what who knows
@@BAR-LIFTIN Probably
Honestly I figured it was talk on the vp satellites whose qualities represent several sins.
There's already the theory that Blackbeard is a failed Rocks clone experiment floating around, so if we see that MADS already has a rocks clone would be incredible
I never liked this clone theory bs
@@Alex-bs5sd well get used to it mate lol Cloning has been a thing since we were introduced to the Germa, and EggHead has DEFINITLY featured a lot of the concept.
What does Mads Mikkelson the actor have to do with One Piece?
I still choose to believe he’s Rocks’ Son to better parallel Roger.
@@skelitonking117never during Roger’s time though
What if Mars destroying the streaming snail is the true Dead Man's Switch or a backup switch to quickly start up the message. The first switch is to force the Gorosei's hand and have them come to Egghead if Vegapunk had any reason to suspect they had a way to quick travel. The second switch, which is the snail's demise, is because Vegapunk surmised the situation must be extremely dire if the snail were to be destroyed, but ripe for exposing the World Government and thus immediately begins the transmission.
Like destroying the “mother flame” the Gorosei seem to want to power whatever they used to destroy Lulusia (not sure if I spelled it correctly)
I could see Vegapunk recording video of the Gorosei to run alongside his transmission. Every time they take action they made it worse for themselves.
I always interpreted haki is used more often than we realize, but only somewhat advanced haki users can see it. Like how we all know that haki was used early in the plot, but it wasn't shown as that black coating effect until we learned about it. In my view, the black coating isn't actually there, it's just a representation of what a trained haki user sees. So when we see a fight from the perspective of someone without haki mastery against a haki user, we don't see the haki even if it's being used.
Maybe I'm just coping to make a plot convenience seem like it was planned, but I think the story reads better like that.
Yup a good example is zoro vs crocodiles n2 with the steel fruit.
Used armorant haki before we knew what is was
I think he was using it though. His hand is white in one panel and black in the next.
That's literally how it works
No it definitely is the case since Haki was used all the way back with Zoro in Alabasta which I believe used both perception and armament haki in that final moment against Daz Bones
So basically yea in TS they used black for armament haki and other features for the other haki forms to better visualize haki when used
"revealing secrets of void century so soon"... Yeah sure, A FREAKING THOUSAND EPISODE REALLY IS TOO SOON.
that's how you build story, not revealing a final enemy out of freaking nowhere in 1 chapter
I still feel like the 10min were just a bait to get the 5 elders to rampage on egghead and Vegapunk is recording or even already secretly live streaming just that right now. So the message is: "the world is run by monsters, here's a Livestream of these monsters trying to kill me before I can tell you."
Same.
I doubt Oda is aware of it, but there is a comedy heavy metal album called Ziltoid. In it the mc is looking for the ultimate cup of coffee to power his omniverse traveling spaceship.
Thank you for making my day never knew of this but it made me laugh
an ad came up and all I heard was “Jewelry Bonney has earned the right to be called-o-o-o-o’reilly O’REILLY Auto Parts OW!”
To quote DBZ Abridged "(Every Scientist) has a Sub-Lab. Where do you think I keep your mothers clones"
“My mother’s what?”
11:08 I believe the wrong comment is being shown
Yes
yes, and there was also a point where Liam said he could not unsee/unread what he had read in the comments, but with no comments shown
😂
"Revealing the void century too soom" he says, about a Manga spanning 1000+ chapters
Vice-Admirals are a joke nowadays. They get oneshotted by Franky and Bonney.
Both pirates didn't even have Haki at all.
They’re balanced out by garp on the other end
@@matt8258 But garp is said to be as powerfull if not more then an Admiral, he just didn't took the job, cause he wanted the freedom to do what he wanted
almost like the crew got stronger
They just got power cliffed massively. Happens to every group in One piece. Don’t know why everyone’s so shoct. Plus the crew have obviously gotten stronger
Dumb that not all the straw hats have haki
2:06 York eating a Mudkip is hilarious. Lotta Pokemon references in this review love it
I saw it too hahah
"Hide Sandersonia's tattoo." If only the World Nobles were so kind, but last I checked tattoos are not applied with branding irons.
I doubt that Vegapunk left that snail there without some sort of defense system, It would need to be something able to deter anyone, including the Elders, so i doubt it's going to be a weapon.
My personal favorite is a simple wiring hack: the snail is wired in a way so that destroying it or stopping the message in any way will fry the lines the message is using, in this case, the ENTIRETY of the WG communication line.
That way Mars has a nice choice to make: does he stop the message and destroy the WG's comms or does he do nothing and allows VP to do his big reveal?
I've been curious, would Amber Lead poison the Gorosei even with their regenration abilities? Or could VP have used some sort of sea prisim stones trap?
I think the bubbles was Rocks D Xebec in a tank. BB is from a winter island, Egghead is a winter island. BB knows the DF encyclopedia, so does VP who said the gum gum fruit isn't a thing. BB has ties to Xebec if he named his ship after him, he also looks like a Buccaneer to some degree and has their durability it seems. Maybe BB was just a failed chimera before CP0 Stussy was mixed with a vampire from Lulusia or Monet was crossed as a harpy. Maybe Rocks crew betrayed him like Joyboys friends did and Buckingham Stussy gave his body to VP to hide and VP couldn't help but experiment?
Hey long time fan from before you showed your face here, just wanted to say while I was initially unsure about the channels new style, a few years in its still one of my favorites, totally here for the unique style of character drawings/animations (whoever does these, great stuff seriously). Looking forward to the coming theories from you and tekking as we as a fan base embark on such an incredible epoch of One Piece!
Regardless of what is producing the sound, the presence he felt was probably the transponder snail
Likely yes like Enel he has advanced observation haki and felt the snail that is also transmitting the message. Still worth asking what is he horrified at?
I really hoped that Oda would've ended this chapter with a panel of the giant robot doing absolutly nothing
frankys last words "im sorry luffy"
Centaur ethan vs Franky centaur. Our battle would be legendary
Something that seems to be getting a little overlooked right now is that Mars seemed to use the voice of all things when he was looking for the transponder snail. At least York thinks he was talking about the snail.
I'm so happy to see a new chapter after a flippin month
I dont know why people keep bringing up that lifeforce Mars sensed.
That is clearly shown to be the Transponder Snail he sensed. He literally said that in the same page.
Mars reminds of Saruman the White from Lord of the Rings. He has the evil wizard look to him. Which seems quite fitting since he flies around like Fellbeast
I still can't stop thinking of how much Mars resembles Gan Fall the sky knight from Skypeia...
@@Pickn4Gold that's true! He really does look similar
@@SultaiSamurai to me it always seemed like Gan Fall knew more than he let on about Haki and I don't think he had wings like the other Skypeians(could be wrong). So did he come from the blue sea, or even come from the God's Knights but maybe left 38 years ago when God Valley happened? Maybe he is similar to the Donquixote family and he fled Mariejois long ago, but his brother stayed?
I like him as a character but I can't help think he will come around in the story again. Just theories, if you have any I love spitballing ideas to see what sticks.
@@Pickn4Gold yeah I dont think he has wings only a cape. He definitely felt foreign to Skypiea just like Enel. I think Pierre is how he got there. He looks around Garling's age who is also a Holy Knight.
@@SultaiSamurai I kinda figured Pierre was how he got around the Sky Islands at the very least. Need a Pierre vs Stronger(Doc Q) fight...lol
I hope in two years(or whenever) when Straw Hats get the Grand Fleet together Gan Fall shows up ready to fight alongside, and when he sees his brother Mars they're just like "evil traitor" and we find out how the Gorosei got their positions. To me it seems Cipher Pol moves up to God's Knight if needed, and God Knight moves up to Gorosei if needed. I mean who is really going to question Imu or the Gorosei if they say "oh this new guy, he was born here in Mariejois but he has been out fighting for us because he's very powerful and you're not."(wink wink, nod nod)
8:33 the vice admiral franky fought did use hanky against, we can see that his glove was black, when in previous chapters it was white.
0:15-0:20 he is doing his best impression of Ju Peter sucking building from this chapter
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Imagine yourself as an invulnerable unstoppable person trying to 'defeat' a building full of people locked inside.
How long will it take? Just to walk around and find them, then what 10 seconds to defeat someone? You'd be there all day.
Elders don't have time for that.
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From what we know, Xebec has gone so far as attacking the world nobles but he hasn't been praised by Imu, hasn't made the Gorosei go out of their way to deal with him or anything. He can't be THAT scary to Mars.
I always thought he might be transmitting the message through the marines and showing them something (vegacoffee shit) but showing the people the real thing
It is genuinely a genius idea: distract world gov with "warmup" while the rest of the world is already hearing it all
Now THAT would be a great idea that doesn't go to an extreme absurdity.
It's possible that the "sins" that York is talking about is a merit system that may deactivate her if she racks enough "sins" or bad acts.
What would be amzing to see is a "Seraphin Clown" (Buggy) just because a strong buggy will be very funny
Mars was able to hear "Voice" of transponder snail. He looks so much familiar to God and can hear voice of things. He must be somehow related to Skypia.
1:58 _"But I cannot dismiss crazy ideas. Not on this... "_
Channel?
_"... arch."_
Oh.
My personal theory: What if 200 years ago, when the iron robo giant invaded Marie jois, was actually being controlled by one of the 5 elders at the time who ate the Nika fruit and eventually got connected to gods Wi-Fi. Maybe that why Saint Jupiter looks younger out of the rest of them. He’s the replacement. Idk like if you think so too.
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I think the 5 elders weren't introduced with their devil fruits bc they are the original users of those zoan forms. Vegapunk said people's wills and desires led to new evolutions resulting in devil fruits, the 5 elders were some of those people. And their devil fruits don't exist yet because they haven't died
Interesting explanation shame people are ignoring this
Where the F is Urouge
I would say impel down, last I remember he was defeated by Cracker before whole cake arc
It might sound weird, but Seraphim Kaido? Vegapunk seemed to care a lot about trying to 'perfect' the clone to the fruit, and with the rox pirate clones being "weevil" and Stussy, seeing more of them pop up would real nice to see. Though I wouldn't know how to feel with a Kaido clone "right" after he was defeated in his arc
I’m sorry but I absolutely love the Pokémon Easter eggs in this video.
Mewtwo: 1:12
Mudkip: 2:06 😂
I saw somewhere, someone commented that Mars will be stopped by Dragon... ummmm.... that's soooo stupid and I love it. 🤣🤣🤣
“A legendary Pokémon that not even a master ball can capture.” I love the dialogue in these videos.
I look forward to these every day
the sound is vegapunk in a capsule, he's a clone but a better version cuz he used kuma's ability to copy memories so the clone has the actual vegapunk's memories as if he never died .. vegapunk was about to die but he said he needs to protect something, but HOW can he do that when he's gonna die if he moves. so he didn't wanna leave the island and he needed to stay there so when he dies, the signal gets sent so the recording broadcasts and the new clone wakes up (ODACCHI's theory)
I'm expecting that if it's a twist it's going to be Gorosei Seraphim.
I like the idea of Rocks and/or the Rocks pirates but pretty much any clone is going to be exciting. Garp, Roger, Shanks, -Luffy-. Lot of potential there.
I think the bubbles was the traitor York in a stasis tube, gurgle gurgle is it running like the Seraphim being held in stasis tanks. Mars just realized the York he left was a fake and was wasting his time, which is why she was so helpful in sending Mars up to Punk Records.(possibly the one Mars saw was a hologram, I don't think we saw Mars touching her)Could also be Rocks, who's crew betrayed him like Joyboys crew and was hidden in this room in Punk Records no one else has access to but Stella. Lastly it could be a clone of Saturn, who told Kizaru in 1074 he had met the real Vegapunk before.
Iron Oars(we will have our jaws on the ground when we hear it speak in the anime) gets charged by the Awakened Nika Fruit, but can operate for a while on that "battery". 200 years ago either 1) another Nika user awakened and fell in battle near where Iron Oars we being stored, but as we see now on Egghead the user has to be close enough to project the drums of liberation or Iron Oars would have awoken when Luffy awakened on Wano one of the closest islands to Egghead. Or 2) Toki sent the Iron Oars forward from the end of the void century with enough battery to climb the red line, but it ran out of juice at the end. Lithium, a material we make many modern batteries from is also white like Joyboy so he could be recharging it. [I also think Amber Lead plays into the "battery", Vegapunk hasn't been able to duplicate the power system and Amber Lead was banned when Law was a kid because the Gorosei feared more power sources from Amber Lead not because it killed the "insects" who mined it. Lithium mining is very dirty for the enviroment, and I think Oda is spinning some of his real world concerns into his story like great authors do. Godzilla was a warning about nuclear weapons for example.]
Interesting ideas.
Kaku made me realize something with his repulsive appearance comment. Everyone on Egghead, The Marines, The Vice Admirals, all of them now know that the gorosei are demons. Based on their reaction to Sabo, Cobra, and Wapol finding out about that…the punishment for knowing this information…is Instant Death.
In a world full of Zoans, seeing some guy with these appearances is not that weird. Yes it is monstrous but they can easily interpret it as zoans forms (that is likely what it is).
And marines below the rank of rear admiral definility have no idea about the gorosei monstrous forms. Imagine the sheer number of marines across the world, do you think the goverment would reveal that stuff to them? They can not even look to the gorosei without being punished by death. Even the vice admirals must have been taken by surprise but like i said they would just think it is a zoan form.
Only admirals and cypher pol aigis 0 agents, who works directly for the goverment, would likely know about that beforehand.
The reason they wanted to kill Sabo and Cobra was because they saw Imu, not the demon stuff.
@@Piss-l9i honestly, small difference, they’ve been hiding those forms from the celestial dragons, but go ahead, congratulations, you picked one sentence out of a comment and made someone look stupid on the internet…are you happy?
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What if they are using haki against the non-haki users but you're just seeing through their eyes so you can't even see the haki
Personally I’ve always wondered ever since we learned some devil fruits have a will of their own that the bad taste is the result of the wrong person eating them. Since devil fruits are manifestations of desire it could be each devil fruit is tailor made, meaning the bad taste everyone who’s ever eaten a devil fruit complains about is confirmation they weren’t the right person for that fruit or the fruit doesn’t want them as a user. That could also mean Luffy not complaining about the taste since we know he doesn’t like all food now is proof the Nika Nika fruit choose him.
We all know in the last moment, Bartholomeo is going to show up, and just be like: "Gorosei? Eh? Fingers crossed."
Instead of using plot armour Oda should've given Robin and Franki haki. At least Robin can be given haki since she trained with Sabo.
Exactly! The whole crew should have the basic haki to make their victory more credible. If the rest of the crew doesn’t have a haki against the BBP it’s nonsense.
Looking at the chapter again it seems like Franky's opponent was using armament haki. In the build up panel his hand is pure white and then in the destruction photo it is coated in black.
This may be a stretch, but i am reminded of another *Iron Giant* that ended up sacrificing itself to stop a nuke plummeting down to destroy a town. IF Oda is showing homage to the 1999 film, then i feel like we already know our terrible fate for our sleeping friend.
Franky is like haki himself because he's metal. Let's assume haki makes your body hard like metal but it depends on the level of haki and the type of metal.
Ain't it crazy that Colonel Sanders is probably just in constant Gear5 state
I believe that in the incubator it could be a clone of Xebec himself called Roche Thomson who went back to Egghead to heal from the injuries inflicted on him due to Blackbeards jailbreak as he was previously an inmate from Level 5.
Karma is when you, an adult, are ready to hurt a child, but get hurt as a child instead.
Vegapunk's Stella is just the Main Body. Never said it was the main brain, I believe why the other vegapunks are still working is because they are being fed info by the brain.
They call him Mr. Pig. Oda made the guy a sandworm to avoid timon and pumbaa if he had made a demon bear.
the gurgle sound could just be Oda playing with us and revealing one of the dead vegapunks actually being alive and making the coffee lol
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One thing I'm thinking as a theory is that the iron giant was improvised and the role was meant to go to zuneshia originally during the Kaido fight. They're both giant, both showed up talking about a history of joy boy, and both wanted to be there at his return. Since Zuneshia left without doing basically anything, I'm thinking Oda moved that plot point to the giant as a new character.
15 seconds and no views? GrandLineReviews fell off
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This comment got even funnier the 2,000,000th time someone said it😂
Im sick of this trend
4k views in 15min... he really did
20min and already 6800 views
11:59 - I think it's because Pride... This is the first time the Five Elders have taken action in the common world out of pure necessity and obligation. Due to Vegapunk's imminent threat to expose everything, they were too prideful to act before because they don't minggle with "insects"
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I would assume the giant has some battery left. It didn't wake up at first because he was charging up until getting to a safe % of battery.
Keep in mind that Haki isn't always visible. It's safe to assume that their haki using opponents did use it against them. It's safe to assume Sasaki used it against Franky for example. People hit Luffy with haki without it showing sometimes for example and observation isn't really shown to be in use when it's being used because there's no visual cues unless they do the saying out loud where you'll hit thing which has gotten old at this point.
Rocks D. Xebec with that brown angel DNA and supercharged with a awesome devilfruit.
Shanks being granted a meeting with the five elders seems more impressive knowing what we know about them now.
I think queen vs sanji is a good example of haki user vs (primarily) non haki user for example when queen used his constriction attack he said it’s strong enough to take out the strongest of haki users implying the attack does not use it
It’d be ironic, if the sound is coming from a gigantic COFFEE machine!!! BUT like Smiles and SAD it means something else than actual Coffee coffee!
11:59 I think not showing their true forms and tolerating pirates to a certain degree is in the five elders interest. It gives the marines a reason to exist and therefore the government a reason to collect taxes, it forms a union against the unruly and dangerous pirates and brings strong people in search of justice under their control while also profiting from the pirate's infighting. In a similar way that the "empty throne" exists, even though it is secretly occupied.
#2:08 as a German.... Haha, I noticed the 'Augustiner Helles' beer XD
Coffee is a metaphor for energy and Vegapunk’s dream was unlimited energy. Maybe one drop of this dream energy in water creates unlimited energy.
The lore of the Houki that I’ve seen says it’s a Chinese mythological boar that has an incredibly tough hide
Brook holds the key to hurting the gorosei. The way he hurts homies. Which are yokai made from big mom soul. Now we have actual kaiju yokai .
Oda is cooking with this set up. 🔥
Maybe we dont see the vice admirals haki because the one they are fighting with dont have it its like in the pre time skip
I in particular have a theory . Vegapunk is going to reveal a name or something in very end but the message got destroyed and his final words from that is a broken audio message
9:18 what beautiful dinosaurs 🦖
2:18 "a living being" like the _snail_ we literally see and was quite poorly described by York.
Because as far as I am concerned it's body is way more triangular than it's shell...
If there was a secret message In the 10 mins I think vega punk would say, hey play the recording in reverse x times speed so the message is already out
I also see a big connection between the iron giant and liberty prime from fallout three. Maybe one of the five elders it’s gonna do like a bomb attack and the iron giant is gonna catch it and then throw it like a football.
In chapter 1066 when Shaka is talking to Robin, he talks about the discovery of a machine from the void century and we never hear about it again because we get distracted by Saul being alive. I wonder if that machine was re-created and that’s what Mars is seeing in punk records.
It being VP brain makes sense but maybe it’s connected to this ancient machine?
I really just want his message to be a inspirational speech that is sorta a chat bubble taking up every panel so it’s just silent action and chaos as vegapunk starts to explain how impactful hope is.
The fact that NO ONE NOTICED this man called Captain Kid trash in the most stumble way is astounding😂
imagine kaidou and bigmom waking up from slumber by feeling the haki alone
The clone of Rocks idea is pretty interesting and led me to my own idea. The arc has been largely to do with control over the pacifistas and the power switching between groups. I wonder if there's something that would control or influence the elder planets, but the only thing I thought of was Imu. Im predicting Imu won't be of the humans but will be of a race/deity seen very briefly on Skypia, that of Vearth (chap 244). The body shape looks like it could match the silhouette of Imu and would give an elder planet at least pause for thought. If vegapunk had access to the DNA it could have been cloned and could actually as a failsafe towards the elder planets if they are unable to disobey orders from that race. Some of the questions of the void century could perhaps be answered also (though it's more likely this mainly all comes from Ohara and vegapunks technological and historical finds). I realise all this is very very unlikely to pass but I've had fun thinking and theorising Imu is Vearth for these past few years at least and that it could affect the storyline.
Kid and Law finally waking up just to see what Luffy's had to face while they were unconscious is going to be brilliant
Rocks Clone: "YAAAAA! GUESS WHO!"
Markus Mars: "It's you!"
Rocks Clone: "IT'S ME! GOOD BYE!"
(One Shots Markus Mars)
Rocks Clone: "DON'T USE TIMBER! USE BEAR GLOVE!"
Great point about Goro's needing to stay inconspicuous. Saturn said it had been a while, maybe this 1st time Goro's got to boxing like this in centuries. Also those hairy horses are magical
The idea that the giant just falls back to sleep and that's the end of it is funny.
Even if we do get to point where questions could be answered, Oda could always just avoid showing us. Again.
I believe what mars is seeing, is 3 of the newest Seripham (Law, Whitebeard Jr., Buggy) but their unfinished, hence why the gurgling/bubbling sounds. They are freed to ensure Vegapunk's message goes out. But because their unfinished, they start melting and eventually die. Hopefully they last long enough for Vegapunk's message.
"When are Law and Kid reappearing?"
- For Christ, kid is probably dead and law is a fan-favourite, so he gets saved instead of also getting kid'dead
If Kid reappears, it would make the Shanks scene much less dramatic.
The giant should keep going on panel You can see the heartbeat still going
Remember that when the crew lost on sabaody it also said they were decimated. So maybe kid and law are going on their own time skip