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When this person uses the phrase "everyday life" which everyday life does he mean the socially engineered one which is designed simply to satisfy the demands of empire-building and industry or the natural everyday life? And if he means the latter then how exactly is he defining it? A rhetorical question of course.
Would you do all your subscribers a favour please and invite this chap back on your programme to discuss the fear mongering going on now in UK and the rest of the world (plague, masks, test and track, rushed vaccines, forced lock-ins and anti-social distancing). He discusses Shielding....to spare us the burden of facing challenges....
I am beginning to see a pattern here. Reasonable and thoughtful people over their lifetimes change their minds, learning from experience and receiving further evidence and information.
@@seanmoran6510 well yes, so did I but having done so myself and having had long debates with old lefty friends, it seems that some people will not take the blinkers off to check for new information, or even old information.
I’ve been saying this for years. We now have a couple of generations who are totally unable to cope with everyday life, the slightest upset is met with a trip to the doctor with anxiety!! I’m sick to death of listening to emotionally incontinent individuals go on and on about how stressful their lives are, when in reality, it’s just life situations that are experienced by everyone. He’s right about morals, there are none and a society cannot function without a moral compass.
Mr Furedi is spot on. i, like him and Peter, am old school, I really don't understand this "new thinking" and ways of dealing with things. It comes across to me that younger people are nothing but frightened and cosseted children.
@@TheDistortion93, No, "we" didn't lay any foundations, and even if we did, you have your own mind don't you, Or do you just follow blindly? I certainly don't think I'm "better", different maybe, but no better or worse than anyone else.
I am of this generation and me and my friends were completely unprepared for world. If a person managed to get himself in certain circumstances then he's not a lost cause, but otherwise this millennial generation is really weak and disfuncionate
Frank Furedi is a nuanced thinker who brings a lot to the top table of thought. He has the ability to put his finger on all the confusion that prevails in Anglo-American culture. We should all be thankful for his intellectual virtues.
Thank you, Peter, this was a very enlightening discussion. Frank makes sense and he should be required reading in all our educational establishments! Fear is only an irrational construct when there are unknown outcomes in everyday situations. Frank is right when he said morality has become subverted into something to be frowned upon when it should be the basis for a good wholesome society! This current "WOKE" society has the deliberate intention of upending thousands of years of natural history and supplanting it with foolish "Feelings" that have no basis in reality!
When I was in my late teens (mid 1970s) I, like my contemporaries, couldn't wait to leave home and get on with adult life. I loved my parents and had a happy family home, but I wanted to get on and change the world(!!). Last year a friend contacted me to change a lunch arrangement. One of her children was leaving home and needed to be taken, with stuff, to their new home, and settled in, then Mum & Dad were going to stay locally for a few days to make sure all was well. The 'child' who was moving out was 28 years old, and of normal intelligence and health. I would have been outraged if my parents had fussed like that when I was 18, never mind 28.
Haha. We're not all melts. I moved to a different country for university when i was 19 (not too long ago) my mum came with me to help bring my belongings etc, then she got the train home and left me in a train station in a city I had never walked around before. I have never felt more excited or alive as I made my way back to student halls, a ten min walk taking an hour as I didn't know the way! I also worked full time during my studies. My parents were the type of leaving us kids to it, no hovering or real interest in us! And we all get on great and very independent.
@@eat_apples3270 Haha...... thanks to GOD that there are good examples like you AND your parents. Examples that is not all hope lost. So I wish you all the best for your life and I hope that you are able to be a ROLE MODEL in every part of your life! 💪👍❤️
When a youngster meets a thing that is 25% new 75% similar to their last problem all to often they give up and expect to be carried, whereas "old school" would just shrug and get on and solve it.
What a breath of fresh air to come across a Sociologist who thinks and expresses such basic common sense and IS 'STILL' a emeritus professor at a University in this coutry, this guy should be a major influencer in our schools. As an ex senior teacher who came from industry who in the 1980/90s witnessed the the origins of the 'madness' we now have in schools - I agree with every word this guy says.
I was in my teens when I began to realise the influence of American culture and ever since I have kept it to a minimum. Hard to ignore it completely, but worth minimising it, especially nowadays, for the next generations.
It is not "American Culture" per se that you observe. It is Cultural Marxism/Critical Theory. The USA is as much under attack by this mindset as Britain or the EU. And the USA does resist it as much as it can. The divides you hear about of the Left vs the Right in the USA are playing out this war of ideas. Cultural Marxism has, for sure, found a home in Hollywood and large American studios and Netflix as well as the US Academia but this ideology/mindset initially came/invaded/infiltrated from the Frankfurt School in Germany. I think of it as the doomsday weapon/second act of the post USSR Communists to overturn and dismantle Western nations.
Lately I've heard young people say "You're triggering me. " As if Someone else is responsible for one's feelings. At work I tried to instruct a young woman what to do to help me. She wasn't listening. When I corrected her she told me not to yell at her. I was far from yelling. Why are people so overly sensitive?
This to me is a man of reason. What he says is so comforting. And to think that whatever is happening in our lives today are actually orchestrated and intentional, and how effective and fast it is spreading is scary and disheartening.
This should be seen by every parent and school teacher in Canada. He explains all the buzz words being pumped into our children. We used to teach the "Virtues Project" in schools. That stopped a long time ago. Also, watching this in July, 2020 explains in part the panic of my fellow Canadians in dealing with Covid19.
Wow, I m so glad there r educators that still can differentiate between right n wrong! No grey areas! So, very true there’s no longer any moral absolutes!
Frank is the best of genuine public intellectuals. He tells you what you already knew, but didn't actually know, so to speak. I'm lucky: he's been a key influence for over 30 years, starting at a time when he was the most inspiring, groundbreaking Marxist of the 80s and 90s. As a psychotherapist, I can also say - and this is heresy in my line of work - that his attack on 'therapy culture' is spot on. And yes, I was in the RCP - and proud to say so.
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He says: "everybody should be able to say what they want, as long as they're prepared to live with the consequences". This seems to be a popular expression in academia. But what if the consequences are being fired, ostracised, jailed, or even killed? Would that count as free speech?
Speech is not safe for the speaker. This needs to be the fundamental thing you accept when you open your mouth to say something that may be controversial. But know what is less safe? *NOT* opening your mouth and letting the society and culture around you go rabid for not having people courageous enough to stand up and face whatever adversity will be thrown at them for speaking the truth.
@@geoded Good point . When first attempting to introduce a culture of debate into the hick-town I'd chosen for its apparent safety features , that seemed to be welcomed, along with many other innovations I introduced. Unbeknownst, some hitherto quiet ones had been riling up mainly their religious fanatic buddies and at some point I got banned from "public platform" and relieved of my unpaid community chores. So I withdrew into reclusivity. Interestingly, it's the younger , newer residents who have heard of these outrages, who now wish to carry me out upon their shoulders and seek my advice at every turn. I tell them to be brave, to speak their truth, that it is their turn now and that I wear the badge of my banishment with honour. For he / she who has never done so has never stood up for anything worthwhile.
john hansberry That's right where 'they' want us John, so unsure of what we can say, we self censor to be on the safe side! Who'd have thought living in Blighty could be reduced to this!😱
@@ingridluyt7538 Good story. Sounds like you could have a role now, beyond inclusivity. I too live in a small town and struggle with fear of ostracism. There's probably one or two of us (maybe many more lurking) in every village - like idiots : )
This gentleman is a gem. I hung on his every word. His insight into the current state of the west is spot on. God bless him! So articulate, an absolute pleasure to listen to. Please consider a tour of Australia.
Such an interesting conversation! I share Mr Furedi’s world view on values, traditions, the welfare system and freedom of speech. Lovely to hear from a fellow Hungarian. Thank you for the insightful episode!
I had an overbearing 'safety conscious' father; I'm 50 years old now, still getting over his influence. It's been and continues to be a rough road unlearning what I was exposed to.
I agree except for the limitations on age, of this affecting only young people, I am seeing this amongst all generations, and somehow people over 40 have managed to completely erase all memory of life before 2010. I find it astonishing to observe.
the "Problem/challenge" issue is definitely a new thing. Problems have solutions - it's a very positive idea. Once solved, that problem should never raise it's head again. Challenges are perpetual, eg. climbing the himalayas is a challenge for the individual... nobody is saying that needs solving as a problem and flattening them. BUT treating problems (which require definitive solutions) as challenges merely means the problem never gets solved.
I remember the Cuban missile crisis. We all went to work that day not being sure if we were coming home. That was scary. Common sense prevailed and I am still here.
The symbolic notion of the father is typically one of judgement. I think it's why men are hated on the left wing, they are totally consumed by the fear of being judged because they will find themselves lacking. Rather than improve themselves they would sooner tear down the idea of masculinity and manhood. With no father figure there is no judgement, there is no normative system of morality by which to be judged a failure.
What he is talking about to a degree is word magic i.e. idol - I dol - doll - a representation of a human figure icon - I con - con - persuade (someone) to do or believe something by lying to them. Fear is the oldest trick in the book, TV, social media, newspapers etc is the new platform for fear.
The problem of judging right or wrong is that everyone sees things from their own point of view. believe that you are right and others are wrong is the biggest problem in the world
I was a supporter of the RCP in the mid-90's and I also went to Kent University. Many of the things I was exposed to back then allowed me to form the opinions I have today. Amazingly a lot of the issues that the RCP was discussing back then (identity politics, cultural relativism, censorship, moral panics) have come true. You could probably read an issue of Living Marxism from the 90's and it would read like it was written yesterday.
Whether you like it or not, Foucault predicted it all in astonishing accuracy more than 50 years ago and he also provided a robust socio-historical explanatory framework for everything that happens in our postmodern era.
"And I shall give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, everyone by their neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable. " "As for my people, children are their oppressors and women rule over them. Those that lead thee, cause thee to err and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah Ch 3 verses 4, 5 & 12 Every boundary ordained by The Almighty as laid down in The Bible, has been scorned, transgressed broken down and now removed. Even those set down as Laws of Nature, we are questioning and ignoring to justify our own desires and lusts and vain ideas. The end is reaping what we have sown.
That prophecy has certainly come true! The Hopi Prophecies are similar and have also come true - they say that in the last days of the Fourth World, there will be "confusion between the sexes" (the current promotion of transgenderism and homosexuality, women ruling over men), "confusion between children and their elders" (children are now undisciplined and adults live in fear of children), "many will have lost their souls" (the drugged up zombies on antidepressants), "many of the children will be unnatural, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be soulless" (artificial insemination, IVF children), "many of the people in this time will be empty in spirit" (the majority of people seem to be soulless nowadays!), "there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities" (the drugged up on antidepressants and illegal drugs, drunks), "others will have great deformities both in the mind and upon their bodies" (tattoos, people behaving in an unnatural way such as promiscuity, homosexuality, people being abusive), "life will get very perverted and there will be little social order" (perversions are now being promoted as "ideal", but normal behavior is now called "mental illness"). Something has to give sooner or later because mankind will destroy itself if it carries on like that!
I am 62 and when I graduated from university I received my diploma. During my working career, every course I took we received a "diploma" which I kinda laughed at but fellow workers would frame them and put them on their office walls??? In a way, those 1 or 2 day course "diplomas" were like participation awards and pretty meaningless.
Britain was extremely risk adversed even before the COVID-19 pandemic, this has gotten even worse now. This fear of losing and failure has prevented us from developing and advancing. Furedi is very clear in his arguments and has shed light on a real dilemma in the modern era.
The thread linking Professor Furedi's concerns is Modernity - global economic rationalisation (globalisation) has created atomised low trust societies. Instead of Community, we have an over regulated and bloated state bureaucracy with an army of *Street Level Bureaucrats* ; We no longer live in nations (Latin origin - birth, origin; breed, stock, kind) but in economic zones where we often have nothing in common with our neighbours. No common culture, no common history or heritage and sometimes even no shared language.
Absolutely right. Mini parents in six year olds is very abhorrent. The idea that mature older people are foolish subversive and redundant. Accumulating wisdom from life encounters and taking responsibility is no longer respected. Very honest debate.
Excellent interview. Ask the interviewer a question and let them speak. Also a clever and interesting interviewee. Make sure this is not the last time he is interviewed.
What a delightful interviewer Peter is. What excellent guests. I'm riveted every time by the erudite discourse devoid of jingoistic regurgitation. What a joy for someone brought up before cultural Marxism went mainstream. Listening to Frank Furedi is very refreshing. I like how Peter was with Prof. Furedi every step of the way and gave him room, space, time and an audience to expound on his themes. This is a delightful series. I am riveted every time and very glad I subscribed.
Excellent. Thank you. I read Frank's book on Fear towards the end of last year. I highly recommend it. Very well written and a lot more depth than what was covered here (obviously). I'm definitely buying his new book on borders and boundaries. As for those two judgements on two genders and veganism: we are going to hell in a handcart. Moral panic!!
Furedi’s thesis has a solid base, and is most welcome in this era in which we self-destructively follow trends instead of thought-through ideas. However, when he gets to the specifics and examples, it all falls apart. He is particularly enthusiastic about patriarchal guidance: father used to tell us what is good and what is wrong. Why can’t we live with such guidance any more, wonders Furedi. Well, because if we did, we’d still be somewhere in the middle ages, and mom would not be allowed to vote or hold a job. It’s not that dad was prejudiced or dim, it’s that long ago, life was slower and changes fewer, and what was “good” for one generation was still “good” for the following generation. Today, thanks to technological capabilities that allow constant progress in the scientific communities, our understanding of everything that composes the world changes at a vertiginous speed. Father’s values simply aren’t in synch with our needs for survival. Faith once guided us, but if it were still the overwhelming influence it once was, Galileo would be wrong and Earth would be flat. We certainly need people who can save us from the charlatans who profit from the confusion in the Western world, but looking back is not the way.
Pretty obvious that in general a mature adult parent is qualified and entitled to lead their immature and inexperienced kid isn't it? More about seniority than patriarchy.
@@person.X. Up to a point. Of course dad should show you how to walk, how to cross the street, how to react to bullies in your school, etc. But when I was a kid, most dads felt that if a girl looked at a boy too obviously, she was a slut. Not an opinion one should accept or go back to. This is a small example, you can easily extrapolate to encompass today's dads' preconceived ideas. My point is, social attitudes today move and change way too fast for opinions of even just twenty years ago to pass the test. (e.g. "Me Too": lot of it crap, but a lot of it is just, and sorely needed.) Our parents and our teachers are equally caught in the maelstrom. I wish I had some kind of solution, but I don't.
This is common sense personified and I thought I was old fashioned and plain weird. Another fascinating discussion which has learned me 😏. Thank you so much.
I believe Frank Furedi is quite right. What he describes so eloquently isn’t anchored in British society, as it has no borders. This goes someway to explain the palpable mediocrity in the arts today. When gifted creative children are raised with constant validation, and move on to higher education that is academically self-congratulatory, then there is barely need for life experience. Ambition, branding and a ten year plan is viewed as enough.
Spot on. Exactly. And the young generation under 25 think that the way we are forced to behave and think now is "the norm".I have neices sho are typical examples ;Won t go shopping after dark without going by taxi, leave every light on and the radio on whenever they go out, haveto be councilled just because someone at college /school made a bad coment about them,and you cannot say ONE word of critiscism or opinion on them without being called cruel/mean.
The biggest problem nowadays is everything is reduced to a binary thought outcome, you spoke in favour of A so you are therefor against B etc, there is no room for nuanced thinking any more.
Politics: the art of using euphemisms, lies, emotionalism and fear-mongering to dupe average people into accepting--or even demanding--their own enslavement. Larken Rose
Frank and Pete, two beautiful human beings telling us about how great life was when they were young. Urgent that the kids today hear this, so they'll have something to puke over.
I always wondered what this guy looked like? Years ago I used to drink with his young brother in law Steve who sadly died an alcoholic. I have one of his books beside me now and it is signed too so I hope it's worth money? Frank married Steve's sister and the dedication in the book is to his mother in law Joan and dated 3/12/91
We need to strike a balance between spiritual and material. We also need to strike a balance between understanding that we don't know and what we do know and how far those concepts can reach. Being a human is not a small feat.
excellent talk! this cultur of fear is being articulated by most developing societies which blend their own cultures into the culture of fear. The postmodern wave is killing the positive features of traditions!
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thank you for letting me understand what is going in the world, which gives the impression of going up side down
When this person uses the phrase "everyday life" which everyday life does he mean the socially engineered one which is designed simply to satisfy the demands of empire-building and industry or the natural everyday life? And if he means the latter then how exactly is he defining it? A rhetorical question of course.
Would you do all your subscribers a favour please and invite this chap back on your programme to discuss the fear mongering going on now in UK and the rest of the world (plague, masks, test and track, rushed vaccines, forced lock-ins and anti-social distancing). He discusses Shielding....to spare us the burden of facing challenges....
I am beginning to see a pattern here. Reasonable and thoughtful people over their lifetimes change their minds, learning from experience and receiving further evidence and information.
Thought that was Standard information
I’m not trying to be impolite
@@seanmoran6510 well yes, so did I but having done so myself and having had long debates with old lefty friends, it seems that some people will not take the blinkers off to check for new information, or even old information.
Lefties are always right 😂
We are so fortunate to have guys like this to so eloquently put the things all right minded people are thinking into words.
Spot on.
I’ve been saying this for years. We now have a couple of generations who are totally unable to cope with everyday life, the slightest upset is met with a trip to the doctor with anxiety!! I’m sick to death of listening to emotionally incontinent individuals go on and on about how stressful their lives are, when in reality, it’s just life situations that are experienced by everyone. He’s right about morals, there are none and a society cannot function without a moral compass.
Mr Furedi is spot on. i, like him and Peter, am old school, I really don't understand this "new thinking" and ways of dealing with things. It comes across to me that younger people are nothing but frightened and cosseted children.
It’s nothing more than Socialism being imposed by the back door,control of what we can say is always a step that Tyrannies take
Yep, and you guys laid the foundation for making us like that. Don't think you're better
@@TheDistortion93 Who are "you guys"?
@@TheDistortion93, No, "we" didn't lay any foundations, and even if we did, you have your own mind don't you, Or do you just follow blindly? I certainly don't think I'm "better", different maybe, but no better or worse than anyone else.
I am of this generation and me and my friends were completely unprepared for world. If a person managed to get himself in certain circumstances then he's not a lost cause, but otherwise this millennial generation is really weak and disfuncionate
I'm only four minutes in and Prof.Frank has hit the nail so many times, he should be a carpenter!
Frank Furedi is a nuanced thinker who brings a lot to the top table of thought. He has the ability to put his finger on all the confusion that prevails in Anglo-American culture. We should all be thankful for his intellectual virtues.
Thank you, Peter, this was a very enlightening discussion. Frank makes sense and he should be required reading in all our educational establishments! Fear is only an irrational construct when there are unknown outcomes in everyday situations. Frank is right when he said morality has become subverted into something to be frowned upon when it should be the basis for a good wholesome society! This current "WOKE" society has the deliberate intention of upending thousands of years of natural history and supplanting it with foolish "Feelings" that have no basis in reality!
I'm 3 minutes in and I already love this guy. His analysis of language is especially spot on.
Exactly im ordering his book.
This guy just reiterated something that I have been saying for years. Society is trying to protect rather than equip.
When I was in my late teens (mid 1970s) I, like my contemporaries, couldn't wait to leave home and get on with adult life. I loved my parents and had a happy family home, but I wanted to get on and change the world(!!). Last year a friend contacted me to change a lunch arrangement. One of her children was leaving home and needed to be taken, with stuff, to their new home, and settled in, then Mum & Dad were going to stay locally for a few days to make sure all was well. The 'child' who was moving out was 28 years old, and of normal intelligence and health. I would have been outraged if my parents had fussed like that when I was 18, never mind 28.
Haha. We're not all melts. I moved to a different country for university when i was 19 (not too long ago) my mum came with me to help bring my belongings etc, then she got the train home and left me in a train station in a city I had never walked around before. I have never felt more excited or alive as I made my way back to student halls, a ten min walk taking an hour as I didn't know the way! I also worked full time during my studies. My parents were the type of leaving us kids to it, no hovering or real interest in us! And we all get on great and very independent.
@@eat_apples3270
Haha......
thanks to GOD that there are
good examples like you AND your parents. Examples that is not all hope
lost.
So I wish you all the best for your life
and I hope that you are able to be a
ROLE MODEL in every part of your
life! 💪👍❤️
But thats just an anecdote, not everyone is like that, proves absolutely nothing.
@@devianttoucan what proof are you seeking?
@JCBAirmaster73 did you get any odds?
Brilliant! Looking forward to Prof. Furedi's new work on boundaries. A great discussion thanks! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇬🇧
Peter - you’re so clever in your choice of guests. Frank Furedi is one of my all time heroes. Thanks
When a youngster meets a thing that is 25% new 75% similar to their last problem all to often they give up and expect to be carried, whereas "old school" would just shrug and get on and solve it.
they do too !!!
@@sichere good to see that. People no matter what generation they are, need to question everything all the time. Own our own minds.
What a breath of fresh air to come across a Sociologist who thinks and expresses such basic common sense and IS 'STILL' a emeritus professor at a University in this coutry, this guy should be a major influencer in our schools. As an ex senior teacher who came from industry who in the 1980/90s witnessed the the origins of the 'madness' we now have in schools - I agree with every word this guy says.
I was in my teens when I began to realise the influence of American culture and ever since I have kept it to a minimum. Hard to ignore it completely, but worth minimising it, especially nowadays, for the next generations.
Agree, stay away from American culture, especially the opinions without proof, always ratify the truth through confirmation of evidence.
It is not "American Culture" per se that you observe. It is Cultural Marxism/Critical Theory. The USA is as much under attack by this mindset as Britain or the EU. And the USA does resist it as much as it can. The divides you hear about of the Left vs the Right in the USA are playing out this war of ideas.
Cultural Marxism has, for sure, found a home in Hollywood and large American studios and Netflix as well as the US Academia but this ideology/mindset initially came/invaded/infiltrated from the Frankfurt School in Germany. I think of it as the doomsday weapon/second act of the post USSR Communists to overturn and dismantle Western nations.
@@brynduffy No, it IS American culture per se that I avoid. Add to it what you have mentioned gives an even greater reason to avoid it.
Lately I've heard young people say "You're triggering me. " As if Someone else is responsible for one's feelings.
At work I tried to instruct a young woman what to do to help me. She wasn't listening. When I corrected her she told me not to yell at her. I was far from yelling.
Why are people so overly sensitive?
This to me is a man of reason. What he says is so comforting. And to think that whatever is happening in our lives today are actually orchestrated and intentional, and how effective and fast it is spreading is scary and disheartening.
This guy has a really good handle on the damage done to the new generations by this insidious new group-think and new-speak.
This video should be compulsory viewing just about everywhere!
This should be seen by every parent and school teacher in Canada. He explains all the buzz words being pumped into our children. We used to teach the "Virtues Project" in schools. That stopped a long time ago.
Also, watching this in July, 2020 explains in part the panic of my fellow Canadians in dealing with Covid19.
Wow, I m so glad there r educators that still can differentiate between right n wrong! No grey areas! So, very true there’s no longer any moral absolutes!
Yes, a few of them.
Frank is the best of genuine public intellectuals. He tells you what you already knew, but didn't actually know, so to speak. I'm lucky: he's been a key influence for over 30 years, starting at a time when he was the most inspiring, groundbreaking Marxist of the 80s and 90s. As a psychotherapist, I can also say - and this is heresy in my line of work - that his attack on 'therapy culture' is spot on. And yes, I was in the RCP - and proud to say so.
Good to see Frank on the show - please also invite Robin Aitken, author of a recent book on BBC bias.
Aitken was on the show some time ago.
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He's been on! :-)
Gawd I like this guy, He is promoting the notion of Quality! Down with the bland pc up with the colours of expression!
That sounds good, vibrant decadent colours, chaos and openness. My cup of tea.
Strange how we never see these people on the BBC or sky, or many of the MSM, yet he speaks so much sense, we need more like him.
He says: "everybody should be able to say what they want, as long as they're prepared to live with the consequences". This seems to be a popular expression in academia. But what if the consequences are being fired, ostracised, jailed, or even killed? Would that count as free speech?
Speech is not safe for the speaker. This needs to be the fundamental thing you accept when you open your mouth to say something that may be controversial. But know what is less safe? *NOT* opening your mouth and letting the society and culture around you go rabid for not having people courageous enough to stand up and face whatever adversity will be thrown at them for speaking the truth.
@@geoded Good point . When first attempting to introduce a culture of debate into the hick-town I'd chosen for its apparent safety features , that seemed to be welcomed, along with many other innovations I introduced.
Unbeknownst, some hitherto quiet ones had been riling up mainly their religious fanatic buddies and at some point I got banned from "public platform" and relieved of my unpaid community chores.
So I withdrew into reclusivity.
Interestingly, it's the younger , newer residents who have heard of these outrages, who now wish to carry me out upon their shoulders and seek my advice at every turn.
I tell them to be brave, to speak their truth, that it is their turn now and that I wear the badge of my banishment with honour. For he / she who has never done so has never stood up for anything worthwhile.
john hansberry That's right where 'they' want us John, so unsure of what we can say, we self censor to be on the safe side! Who'd have thought living in Blighty could be reduced to this!😱
@@ingridluyt7538 Good story. Sounds like you could have a role now, beyond inclusivity. I too live in a small town and struggle with fear of ostracism. There's probably one or two of us (maybe many more lurking) in every village - like idiots : )
@Kirk Lazarus Agreed, but OTOH it's foolish to deny that speech can have negative consequences. Is being sparkly realistic a badd thing for academics?
This gentleman is a gem. I hung on his every word. His insight into the current state of the west is spot on. God bless him! So articulate, an absolute pleasure to listen to. Please consider a tour of Australia.
He’s describing Harry and Meghan
Living off the public dime. Pathetic!
More relevant now than ever. Would love to know your thoughts today! Please .
Really interesting discussion. I felt he was in my own mind when he described the three aspects of his political views!
Very impressed with the professor. Such brilliant logic and analysis. The real deal.
Such an interesting conversation! I share Mr Furedi’s world view on values, traditions, the welfare system and freedom of speech. Lovely to hear from a fellow Hungarian. Thank you for the insightful episode!
I had an overbearing 'safety conscious' father; I'm 50 years old now, still getting over his influence. It's been and continues to be a rough road unlearning what I was exposed to.
"Fear is a sickness, It will crawl into the soul of everyone who engages it"
-Apocalypto.
Thank goodness someone speaks out for what the common man has been saying for the past 30 years. Basically 'grow up and get on with it! '
I agree except for the limitations on age, of this affecting only young people, I am seeing this amongst all generations, and somehow people over 40 have managed to completely erase all memory of life before 2010. I find it astonishing to observe.
A voice of reason and common sense
Another cracking guest. Thank you
the "Problem/challenge" issue is definitely a new thing. Problems have solutions - it's a very positive idea. Once solved, that problem should never raise it's head again. Challenges are perpetual, eg. climbing the himalayas is a challenge for the individual... nobody is saying that needs solving as a problem and flattening them. BUT treating problems (which require definitive solutions) as challenges merely means the problem never gets solved.
I remember the Cuban missile crisis. We all went to work that day not being sure if we were coming home. That was scary. Common sense prevailed and I am still here.
Children having Children are a symptom of a demolished masculinity- thats why the mothers are told what to do by the children
The symbolic notion of the father is typically one of judgement. I think it's why men are hated on the left wing, they are totally consumed by the fear of being judged because they will find themselves lacking. Rather than improve themselves they would sooner tear down the idea of masculinity and manhood. With no father figure there is no judgement, there is no normative system of morality by which to be judged a failure.
That's a very interesting perspective......
@@geoded Nothing more judgemental than a Mother. Ask any daughter.
@@davidcockayne3381 @Geode The father traditionally sets the boundary and holds firm . . .
@@davidcockayne3381 @Geode The father traditionally set boundaries and held firm . . . the mother traditionally did neither of these.
I'm getting this book as soon as possible. Thank you Dr. for writing it. Now if people will only read it without having a meltdown!
I was really enjoying this discussion and then ..... it ended. Yet again thank you NCF for finding fascinating people to bring onto your shows.
Thank you.
What he is talking about to a degree is word magic i.e. idol - I dol - doll - a representation of a human figure
icon - I con - con - persuade (someone) to do or believe something by lying to them.
Fear is the oldest trick in the book, TV, social media, newspapers etc is the new platform for fear.
People who are fearful are most easily manipulated!
Insightful interview. Well conducted. Bravo!!
Thank goodness that there is still some people talking common sense.
Great interview.
Particularly around the medicalising of normal life challenges.
.....the trouble is furedi is one in 10 million !!
The problem of judging right or wrong is that everyone sees things from their own point of view. believe that you are right and others are wrong is the biggest problem in the world
I was a supporter of the RCP in the mid-90's and I also went to Kent University. Many of the things I was exposed to back then allowed me to form the opinions I have today. Amazingly a lot of the issues that the RCP was discussing back then (identity politics, cultural relativism, censorship, moral panics) have come true. You could probably read an issue of Living Marxism from the 90's and it would read like it was written yesterday.
Stress does not hurt anyone. It is our response to stress that hurts us. No two people respond to stress the same way.
Whether you like it or not, Foucault predicted it all in astonishing accuracy more than 50 years ago and he also provided a robust socio-historical explanatory framework for everything that happens in our postmodern era.
Here is an intellectual who speaks my language......common sense. He speaks soooo much truth.
"And I shall give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.
And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, everyone by their neighbour:
the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable. "
"As for my people, children are their oppressors and women rule over them.
Those that lead thee, cause thee to err and destroy the way of thy paths."
Isaiah Ch 3 verses 4, 5 & 12
Every boundary ordained by The Almighty as laid down in The Bible, has been scorned, transgressed broken down and now removed. Even those set down as Laws of Nature, we are questioning and ignoring to justify our own desires and lusts and vain ideas. The end is reaping what we have sown.
Wow, remarkably prophetic!
That is incredibly prescient. Thank you for sharing.
Well said, and thank you for bringing this important Scripture to light.
@@thestraightroad305 Thank you.
That prophecy has certainly come true!
The Hopi Prophecies are similar and have also come true - they say that in the last days of the Fourth World, there will be "confusion between the sexes" (the current promotion of transgenderism and homosexuality, women ruling over men), "confusion between children and their elders" (children are now undisciplined and adults live in fear of children), "many will have lost their souls" (the drugged up zombies on antidepressants), "many of the children will be unnatural, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be soulless" (artificial insemination, IVF children), "many of the people in this time will be empty in spirit" (the majority of people seem to be soulless nowadays!), "there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities" (the drugged up on antidepressants and illegal drugs, drunks), "others will have great deformities both in the mind and upon their bodies" (tattoos, people behaving in an unnatural way such as promiscuity, homosexuality, people being abusive), "life will get very perverted and there will be little social order" (perversions are now being promoted as "ideal", but normal behavior is now called "mental illness").
Something has to give sooner or later because mankind will destroy itself if it carries on like that!
I am 62 and when I graduated from university I received my diploma. During my working career, every course I took we received a "diploma" which I kinda laughed at but fellow workers would frame them and put them on their office walls??? In a way, those 1 or 2 day course "diplomas" were like participation awards and pretty meaningless.
Britain was extremely risk adversed even before the COVID-19 pandemic, this has gotten even worse now. This fear of losing and failure has prevented us from developing and advancing. Furedi is very clear in his arguments and has shed light on a real dilemma in the modern era.
Fear make people not do what they should and often do what they shouldn't.
I fear for this man. I don't want to see him de-platformed or "cancelled".
The thread linking Professor Furedi's concerns is Modernity - global economic rationalisation (globalisation) has created atomised low trust societies. Instead of Community, we have an over regulated and bloated state bureaucracy with an army of *Street Level Bureaucrats* ; We no longer live in nations (Latin origin - birth, origin; breed, stock, kind) but in economic zones where we often have nothing in common with our neighbours. No common culture, no common history or heritage and sometimes even no shared language.
Our enemy is trying to destroy reality, and is suceeding . Once destroyed the "new reality " will be in force
Post Modernist Jacobins with the help of big Tech.
Absolutely right. Mini parents in six year olds is very abhorrent. The idea that mature older people are foolish subversive and redundant. Accumulating wisdom from life encounters and taking responsibility is no longer respected. Very honest debate.
Excellent interview. Ask the interviewer a question and let them speak. Also a clever and interesting interviewee. Make sure this is not the last time he is interviewed.
What a delightful interviewer Peter is. What excellent guests. I'm riveted every time by the erudite discourse devoid of jingoistic regurgitation. What a joy for someone brought up before cultural Marxism went mainstream. Listening to Frank Furedi is very refreshing. I like how Peter was with Prof. Furedi every step of the way and gave him room, space, time and an audience to expound on his themes. This is a delightful series. I am riveted every time and very glad I subscribed.
Excellent. Thank you.
I read Frank's book on Fear towards the end of last year. I highly recommend it. Very well written and a lot more depth than what was covered here (obviously).
I'm definitely buying his new book on borders and boundaries.
As for those two judgements on two genders and veganism: we are going to hell in a handcart. Moral panic!!
Really pleased to listen to a speaker who is not too bogged down in ideology. Can't wait to read the book.
Furedi’s thesis has a solid base, and is most welcome in this era in which we self-destructively follow trends instead of thought-through ideas. However, when he gets to the specifics and examples, it all falls apart. He is particularly enthusiastic about patriarchal guidance: father used to tell us what is good and what is wrong. Why can’t we live with such guidance any more, wonders Furedi. Well, because if we did, we’d still be somewhere in the middle ages, and mom would not be allowed to vote or hold a job. It’s not that dad was prejudiced or dim, it’s that long ago, life was slower and changes fewer, and what was “good” for one generation was still “good” for the following generation. Today, thanks to technological capabilities that allow constant progress in the scientific communities, our understanding of everything that composes the world changes at a vertiginous speed. Father’s values simply aren’t in synch with our needs for survival. Faith once guided us, but if it were still the overwhelming influence it once was, Galileo would be wrong and Earth would be flat. We certainly need people who can save us from the charlatans who profit from the confusion in the Western world, but looking back is not the way.
Pretty obvious that in general a mature adult parent is qualified and entitled to lead their immature and inexperienced kid isn't it? More about seniority than patriarchy.
@@person.X. Up to a point. Of course dad should show you how to walk, how to cross the street, how to react to bullies in your school, etc. But when I was a kid, most dads felt that if a girl looked at a boy too obviously, she was a slut. Not an opinion one should accept or go back to. This is a small example, you can easily extrapolate to encompass today's dads' preconceived ideas. My point is, social attitudes today move and change way too fast for opinions of even just twenty years ago to pass the test. (e.g. "Me Too": lot of it crap, but a lot of it is just, and sorely needed.) Our parents and our teachers are equally caught in the maelstrom. I wish I had some kind of solution, but I don't.
If a state can make its citizens afraid it can get away with anything.
Example: "Climate crisis".
Frank furedi a truly great man
This is common sense personified and I thought I was old fashioned and plain weird. Another fascinating discussion which has learned me 😏. Thank you so much.
I believe Frank Furedi is quite right. What he describes so eloquently isn’t anchored in British society, as it has no borders. This goes someway to explain the palpable mediocrity in the arts today. When gifted creative children are raised with constant validation, and move on to higher education that is academically self-congratulatory, then there is barely need for life experience. Ambition, branding and a ten year plan is viewed as enough.
So glad you had Scruton on your show...….
What a very powerful podcast
Spot on. Exactly. And the young generation under 25 think that the way we are forced to behave and think now is "the norm".I have neices sho are typical examples ;Won t go shopping after dark without going by taxi, leave every light on and the radio on whenever they go out, haveto be councilled just because someone at college /school made a bad coment about them,and you cannot say ONE word of critiscism or opinion on them without being called cruel/mean.
Judging is determining between good and bad. Understanding is knowing how things are and may be followed up by determining where it fits.
Love it.Thanks.
Very interesting, thank-you both.
Very profound...
@25:45 I agree and nicely put.
Another excellent video. Thank you.
Great conversation. So glad I found it.
The biggest problem nowadays is everything is reduced to a binary thought outcome, you spoke in favour of A so you are therefor against B etc, there is no room for nuanced thinking any more.
I teach students from all over the world - the 'new culture' is definitely prevalent with under 35s
Smart guy. Watched his other interview too. Great stuff!
Politics: the art of using euphemisms, lies, emotionalism and fear-mongering to dupe average people into accepting--or even demanding--their own enslavement.
Larken Rose
in 1984 George Orwell warned us of giving kids too much power but no one listened.
Frank and Pete, two beautiful human beings telling us about how great life was when they were young. Urgent that the kids today hear this, so they'll have something to puke over.
Furedi is a pragmatist, not an idealist.
Very good.
I absolutely loved hearing this fella
Make me think 👍
Well said by Frank Fureti,straight to the point.
Great interview, thanks.
Trying to get people to avoid reality.
@eileen spamer that there are consequences to your actions etc
@La Bedlam Hassan Merci What? You do something bad it affects other people and yourself, that clear enough for you?
When you are truly not afraid of death.
Nothing in this world can have a grip on you.
Wonderful
Brilliant!
This is a great video, thanks. A must watch.
I always wondered what this guy looked like? Years ago I used to drink with his young brother in law Steve who sadly died an alcoholic. I have one of his books beside me now and it is signed too so I hope it's worth money?
Frank married Steve's sister and the dedication in the book is to his mother in law Joan and dated 3/12/91
Excellent!
We need to strike a balance between spiritual and material. We also need to strike a balance between understanding that we don't know and what we do know and how far those concepts can reach. Being a human is not a small feat.
Great interview. Tnx
excellent talk! this cultur of fear is being articulated by most developing societies which blend their own cultures into the culture of fear. The postmodern wave is killing the positive features of traditions!
One of your best interviews.
Peter is so posh.. it's very entertaining to me, a Yorkshireman. Keep it up chaps!
Though it's so overdone.
He is not posh, he is normal.