reasons why cryo isn't a smurf: 1. he missed a canon 2. that flay when he ingaged on asol 3. he missed another canon FOUR. that flash when chasing 200years 5. he missed ANOTHER canon
I believe the reason for the hextech alternator stuff is due to his auto magic damage acting as a secondary spell effect (probably due to it originating as one), but upon use it goes on cd and thus renders it inert. So basically you get an auto PLUS a spell every time you auto while the E is off cd. while it is on, you no longer get such effect. Dont quote me, but that seems the most likely scenario and would be worth trying it on champs with similar effects.
makes sence why ability procking it wouldnt work cuz than its just 1 ability w something extra. But if you auto than its auto plus ability. Riot spagetty code could very well work like that
its not really a "strange" or "weird" interaction but it is an interaction. Shen's Q drag through for empowered Q counts as an ability to proc electrocute, faze rush, eclipse and potently others. Those are the ones i can think of of the top of my head right now, yes i am a shen main and love of meta builds for him. This is a big maybe but i also believe his taunt counts as 2 abilities meaning i believe the taunt affect and the dash damage count as separate abilities. The reason i believe this is i believe i have proced eclipse with just taunt, as well as electrocute or fazerush with just taunt and a ato attack. Thanks for reading, again the taunt thing is a big maybe im potently wrong but a fun thing i thought i would share!
Whats more ironic about the kraken and rageblade interaction is that, rageblade on hit procs the titanic like sends a second shockwave after second stack. Even more weird thing is that senna with black cleaver bug where it doesnt apply the additional stack of cleaver when its supposed to. Game is just buggy af and rioters refuse to talk about these things
@@johnalecsanders226 in sennas case thats not true because u can buy eclipse and black cleaver and u can proc eclipse with just 1 auto. Even the pro player said that cleaver is bugged and dont buy it unironically
So, along the lines of the Alternator question, I can't provide an example in its favour, but rather one to its contrary. Old Hextech Revolver used to do it universally, with Thunderlord's Decree. I used to run a particularly nasty Varus mid build, rushing Gunblade into Stattik Shiv, and the spike at Revolver would allow you to auto + Q in quick succession to get good trades off. I miss it sometimes, since Electrocute doesn't counter the alternator proc on Varus as a unique damage instance anymore. (I think that change was made in S7 or 8)
Sorta similar interaction with manamune on kha'zix. Item applies on both kha auto and kha passive, so it procs twice on your first auto out of stealth. I imagine the code is similar between the interactions
kraken was specifically made/changed/whatever to not get modified by rageblade. The reason you would get kraken, if you wanted to, with rageblade is for the attack speed mythic bonus.
On hybrid AP/AD: I think it could be worth doing, but your AP items would need to be ones that provide magic pen. AD thresh still deals primarily magic damage so you'd be getting more value out of those sorts of items. The question is then, which ones? Shadowflare? Protobelt instead of Cringebow, maybe? Void staff if you're up against a bunch of tanks who are building lots of MR? Nashors and Lich bane are also potentially worth thinking about because they do synergise with AD thresh's playstyle overall, but these items also reward you for buying lots of AP so ehhhh. The ol' Muramana + AP items build could also maybe work.
None, not even Shaco, of the potentially hybrid champs build AP and AD. It's always either or. Kat, Kog,... Maybe a Teemo grabbing Wits End for MR instead of Nashors. That's kinda AD but he gets Riftmaker 2nd, which is one of the last items that has omnivamp. Pen items would be the worst items to buy. Just invest in the durability item they aren't buying. The main reason to hybrid would tlbe to grab different effects. Kaisa can splash her builds to hit ability breakpoints. Like a Nashors 4th or maybe a Zhonyas late.
I'm pretty sure you're the only league channel that I'm subbed to since I dropped it, but aside from you, yt shows me Dobby and Vars, which is kinda weird
The thresh + alternator probably works like this: your e passive normally is counted as on-hit, the same with alternator when you proc with an auto attack. (I assume) when you proc alternator with your e passive however it’s counting it as being proc’d by an ability since technically it is. So in summary the electrocute counts these 3 things: -Auto attack -Alternator (via e passive) -A third ability (or auto attack) That being said with that logic it should proc on other on-hit passives such as Teemo. If anyone does check other champs please let me know so I can -abuse it- **ahem** use this definitely intended combo :)
I know I wasn't part of the stream chat but here's my personal experience. I watch league vids depending entirely on the creator. Most players whine all game long and call that entertainment. But Cyro, H0rnlime, and TheBaussffs make always have something interesting to say about chaotic games, even if they're getting screwed. Beyond that, most .exe videos are good for a laugh, and I really like Chilling Smite's hardstuck series cause the editing is topnotch.
On the subject of League Boomers and itemization, I quit for about a year and found out when I came back that Sunfire was no longer a mythic with an on-hit when fully stacked so I can't play Tank Master Yi with it anymore, and the interaction with Shen where if he Q's with Frostfire Gauntlet it procs Demonic Embrace in an AoE with his Melee Multiplier was also removed, so I've had to find new sauce to play with. Currently I main Shen in the Jungle with Bamis > CD Boots > Riftmaker (I watch a lot of xPetu he's also not afraid to experiment)
Kraken is weird because sometimes it work like on-hit and sometimes on-attack... for exemple Aphelios Onslaught, Duskwave and R doesn't stack Lethal tempo (On-attack) and proc Kraken (On-hit?) but Rageblade proc on-hit and not kraken (on-attack?) so i think it's special cased.
So I noticed that sometimes the magic damage on thresh's auto would proc up to a quarter second after the actual hit. Perhaps it's this bug that is proccing the alternator e-cute
League math: Gets a kill in lane = smurf Gets first blood = reported Missed cannon = iron 1 Is afk for more than .1 second = banned Is the baus = permanent winners que
On the league content question: Your videos, which as a long time off-meta clown makes me happy. The odd video from SRO, and KatEvolved And lastly Vandril and Kashway's videos
I only know about jhins interaction with collector. If you kill someone with collector playing as jhing instead of 9999 truedamage it will display 4444 truedamage.
Acapela Box. One "L" in acapella for some reason. The voices you're looking for are all the "Will" ones like "Will (LittleCreature)" and "Will (FromAfar)".
@@CryoBeat Thank you. "Will (FromAfar)" is by far one of the funniest tts voices I've ever heard. First heard it all the way back watching Tear of Grace shadow of mordor. Love your videos.
Unfortunately I'm a thresh main previous one trick so outside of you I only watch people making fun of Neace but you and only those vids seem to come up on mine
Skooch content has been irritating for me for a while and nickyboi vids are good like one out of two vids. I think rossboomsocks is my fave off meta league creator other than u
reasons why cryo isn't a smurf:
1. he missed a canon
2. that flay when he ingaged on asol
3. he missed another canon
FOUR. that flash when chasing 200years
5. he missed ANOTHER canon
I love how Cryo is posting more Treash games S2. Love u
I believe the reason for the hextech alternator stuff is due to his auto magic damage acting as a secondary spell effect (probably due to it originating as one), but upon use it goes on cd and thus renders it inert. So basically you get an auto PLUS a spell every time you auto while the E is off cd. while it is on, you no longer get such effect. Dont quote me, but that seems the most likely scenario and would be worth trying it on champs with similar effects.
makes sence why ability procking it wouldnt work cuz than its just 1 ability w something extra. But if you auto than its auto plus ability. Riot spagetty code could very well work like that
its not really a "strange" or "weird" interaction but it is an interaction. Shen's Q drag through for empowered Q counts as an ability to proc electrocute, faze rush, eclipse and potently others. Those are the ones i can think of of the top of my head right now, yes i am a shen main and love of meta builds for him. This is a big maybe but i also believe his taunt counts as 2 abilities meaning i believe the taunt affect and the dash damage count as separate abilities. The reason i believe this is i believe i have proced eclipse with just taunt, as well as electrocute or fazerush with just taunt and a ato attack. Thanks for reading, again the taunt thing is a big maybe im potently wrong but a fun thing i thought i would share!
Whats more ironic about the kraken and rageblade interaction is that, rageblade on hit procs the titanic like sends a second shockwave after second stack. Even more weird thing is that senna with black cleaver bug where it doesnt apply the additional stack of cleaver when its supposed to. Game is just buggy af and rioters refuse to talk about these things
Black cleaver is most likely because the effect has to happen on dealing physical damage not an “on hit”
@@johnalecsanders226 in sennas case thats not true because u can buy eclipse and black cleaver and u can proc eclipse with just 1 auto. Even the pro player said that cleaver is bugged and dont buy it unironically
Not sure there’s any irony here, or that these interactions are related at all. Kraken is an on attack things that’s all there is to it, not on hit.
Fantastic job here, Cryo! Love your music choice in this vid and that scream cut-off at 0:13 was hilarious
So, along the lines of the Alternator question, I can't provide an example in its favour, but rather one to its contrary. Old Hextech Revolver used to do it universally, with Thunderlord's Decree. I used to run a particularly nasty Varus mid build, rushing Gunblade into Stattik Shiv, and the spike at Revolver would allow you to auto + Q in quick succession to get good trades off. I miss it sometimes, since Electrocute doesn't counter the alternator proc on Varus as a unique damage instance anymore. (I think that change was made in S7 or 8)
Sorta similar interaction with manamune on kha'zix. Item applies on both kha auto and kha passive, so it procs twice on your first auto out of stealth. I imagine the code is similar between the interactions
How many dodges? Also hi cryo I had to fight a thresh top yesterday, brought shame
to answer the question from 12:51
A couple of top ranking toplaners, Vandiril, Aphelios gaming and you
kraken was specifically made/changed/whatever to not get modified by rageblade. The reason you would get kraken, if you wanted to, with rageblade is for the attack speed mythic bonus.
I can't hear the voices you used in the beggining of the video without remembering of a certain tf2 video about pokemon
Same
On hybrid AP/AD: I think it could be worth doing, but your AP items would need to be ones that provide magic pen. AD thresh still deals primarily magic damage so you'd be getting more value out of those sorts of items. The question is then, which ones? Shadowflare? Protobelt instead of Cringebow, maybe? Void staff if you're up against a bunch of tanks who are building lots of MR? Nashors and Lich bane are also potentially worth thinking about because they do synergise with AD thresh's playstyle overall, but these items also reward you for buying lots of AP so ehhhh.
The ol' Muramana + AP items build could also maybe work.
None, not even Shaco, of the potentially hybrid champs build AP and AD. It's always either or. Kat, Kog,...
Maybe a Teemo grabbing Wits End for MR instead of Nashors. That's kinda AD but he gets Riftmaker 2nd, which is one of the last items that has omnivamp.
Pen items would be the worst items to buy. Just invest in the durability item they aren't buying. The main reason to hybrid would tlbe to grab different effects.
Kaisa can splash her builds to hit ability breakpoints. Like a Nashors 4th or maybe a Zhonyas late.
I'm pretty sure you're the only league channel that I'm subbed to since I dropped it, but aside from you, yt shows me Dobby and Vars, which is kinda weird
Can't wait to try this is my ranked games! >:D
The thresh + alternator probably works like this:
your e passive normally is counted as on-hit, the same with alternator when you proc with an auto attack. (I assume) when you proc alternator with your e passive however it’s counting it as being proc’d by an ability since technically it is.
So in summary the electrocute counts these 3 things:
-Auto attack
-Alternator (via e passive)
-A third ability (or auto attack)
That being said with that logic it should proc on other on-hit passives such as Teemo. If anyone does check other champs please let me know so I can -abuse it- **ahem** use this definitely intended combo :)
I know I wasn't part of the stream chat but here's my personal experience. I watch league vids depending entirely on the creator. Most players whine all game long and call that entertainment. But Cyro, H0rnlime, and TheBaussffs make always have something interesting to say about chaotic games, even if they're getting screwed. Beyond that, most .exe videos are good for a laugh, and I really like Chilling Smite's hardstuck series cause the editing is topnotch.
On the subject of League Boomers and itemization, I quit for about a year and found out when I came back that Sunfire was no longer a mythic with an on-hit when fully stacked so I can't play Tank Master Yi with it anymore, and the interaction with Shen where if he Q's with Frostfire Gauntlet it procs Demonic Embrace in an AoE with his Melee Multiplier was also removed, so I've had to find new sauce to play with. Currently I main Shen in the Jungle with Bamis > CD Boots > Riftmaker (I watch a lot of xPetu he's also not afraid to experiment)
Kraken is weird because sometimes it work like on-hit and sometimes on-attack...
for exemple Aphelios Onslaught, Duskwave and R doesn't stack Lethal tempo (On-attack) and proc Kraken (On-hit?) but Rageblade proc on-hit and not kraken (on-attack?)
so i think it's special cased.
So I noticed that sometimes the magic damage on thresh's auto would proc up to a quarter second after the actual hit. Perhaps it's this bug that is proccing the alternator e-cute
Truly, the oogiest of booga
League math:
Gets a kill in lane = smurf
Gets first blood = reported
Missed cannon = iron 1
Is afk for more than .1 second = banned
Is the baus = permanent winners que
On the league content question:
Your videos, which as a long time off-meta clown makes me happy.
The odd video from SRO, and KatEvolved
And lastly Vandril and Kashway's videos
Funny thresh man makes a funny thresh Bideo. Is a good day….
Rocket belt + Lichbane + nashors tooth thresh AKA superior one-shot thresh.
the rageblade + kraken thing doesn't work because kraken isn't an on-hit effect, its an on-attack effect
people always miss that part
I only know about jhins interaction with collector. If you kill someone with collector playing as jhing instead of 9999 truedamage it will display 4444 truedamage.
Only league content I watch is you and xPetu
what is that text to speech voice used for your own chat in the lobby? heard it a bunch and can never figure out how to find it.
Acapela Box. One "L" in acapella for some reason.
The voices you're looking for are all the "Will" ones like "Will (LittleCreature)" and "Will (FromAfar)".
@@CryoBeat Thank you. "Will (FromAfar)" is by far one of the funniest tts voices I've ever heard. First heard it all the way back watching Tear of Grace shadow of mordor. Love your videos.
hello mr streamer can you do thresh ap bruiser jungle and pretend its ok?
I'll try... again.
Two games for the price of one. What a bargain
Hello. How full build ap thresh should look like?
You can adapt every game but here's 6 items for oneshot combo:
Hextech Rocketbelt
Sorcerer Shoes
Horizon Focus
Shadowflame
Rabadon's Deathcap
Void Staff
Here's 6 items for more versatile plays/durability
Hextech Rocketbelt
Sorcerer Shoes
Demonic Embrace
Abyssal Mask
Void Staff
Rabadon's Deathcap/Nashor's Tooth
@@CryoBeat Thank you!
Based background music
I started league in late 2022 and for some reason i thought rageblade was every 2 hits instead of 3 and I was conviced of that
I got to gold mainly going Thresh mid.
The pain.
I also got back to silver 1.
Kinda sad tbh, but If I did it once, I can do it twice
Also, the good thing about the malza match up its the free souls from the minions you can farm with the e
Bababooey
Bap and pow
Reasons why cryo is not a smurf
1 missed cannon
2 missed hook
3 nice flash
4 peped
Kraken slayer/Rageblade Senna *TrollDespair*
Played some AP Thresh top the other day made a level 7 mastery Sett rage quit after attempting to tower dive me twice
Gonna be honest, the only league content I get recomended is you and Netherim.
So yeah, it's kind of getting a bit from each side of the Thresh coin.
If AP Thresh what if Wholemeal Thresh? Self Raising Thresh too hmmm??
The Shifermen Gunhers
The whole rageblad arc is no completly broken cause it's bugged and it goes 1-2-1-2-1-2-3-4-5 xD
Seems like voyboy is gone for good
Unfortunately I'm a thresh main previous one trick so outside of you I only watch people making fun of Neace but you and only those vids seem to come up on mine
Yees
Skooch content has been irritating for me for a while and nickyboi vids are good like one out of two vids. I think rossboomsocks is my fave off meta league creator other than u
wtf