When it comes to picking a deck to play. I personally like to take into consideration 3 things: is the deck relatively easy to learn?, is it fun to play?, and how much does it cost?, I like to not just play a deck cause it’s META rather because I want to play it though power level does come into consideration when I’m making my decision
Basically my decision making for decks like Dinomist and pure Krawlers. Cheap as hell, very easy first Pendulum deck for beginners for Dinomist and fairly straightforward for Krawlers, and it’s fun assuming you’re playing casually. Plus both are fairly unique archetypes
Not all decks are, and probably can't be equally good, but at least Konami should allow every archetype to be playable by modern standards which a lot of older ones, just simply aren't (for now....) Day 1120 of waiting for Good Pyro/Volcanic Support to arrive in the OCG/TCG..........
What a chad, My BLS deserves great supports to be existed in modern days, not too OP but it's competitive enough. And yeh volcanic also. Tired of waiting so i would use ygo card maker to make my own supports. It is over the moon
I agree not all archetypes should be equally strong, but i do thinking every archetypes should have good cards that are useful in its own archetype or a different one.
The problem I have is them not being open about which architypes they are putting on the back burner because as a player you could focus ones that aren't other than the ones that are and wasting your money
Its just really disappointing when you find an archetype you like, then you realize its not destined to go anywhere. Maybe its to restrictive, the gameplan isn't as efficient, or its to commital. I just wish Konami would throw a bone to the lessers. Idk I play evil eye alot and if that normal summon or field spell gets negated you better hope you have the perfect hand because you don't do much of anything. Same if your Cutie gets ashed and what not. Don't even start on the even older decks that needed 5 pieces to land on a single card..... fortune ladies. Not everything is equal and nor do I think it should be. Just wish there was less disparity and more love for those that can not. You got decks that can play through 3 negates + and those that lose to a single one. Atleast try to get more decks to a playable modern stand.
Me with Watts lmao A TON of those older archetypes just can’t compete with even the most mediocre modern decks unless they’re splashed with a newer archetype (following the Watts example, Watts+Thunder Dragons) but then it just feels like the modern archetype is being bogged down by the old one, and you’d be better off just playing a pure version of the modern I don’t think there’s really a way to fix this without completely overhauling like 15 years worth of decks unfortunately
I often view an archetype/engine's power by how well the archetype performs its intended design and how splash-able it can be. An archetype that isn't splash-able can still be powerful if it has solid game design and synergy with itself. And vice versa where an archetype may be bricky with on its own, but can increase its strength by mixing with other archetypes.
@@squaredravens8004 Splash-able is how many archetypes another archetype/engine can mix with. Often, the highly splash-able archetypes also function as engines.
@@squaredravens8004 For instance you can slap the invoked engine anywhere you don't need your normal summon and have some extra deck space. Or the wind witch engine is basically 6 main deck cards that get you a massive plus into a clear wing, but if you made just wind witches they kind of suck.
@@squaredravens8004 basically it just means how easily or difficult a certain archetype can be included in a another deck with a totally different or similar strategy.
The archetype I'm personally most sad about being forgotten is Ninjas. I stopped playing just before Pendulums came out, and started up again with Master Duels release, and from what I've seen they've gotten a small handful of new cards in nearly 10 years since I stopped playing. Heartbreaking. I guess at least my Dark Magicians got a lot of love, and my Ninjas are pretty cheap to build for the most part.
I think it would be nice if they gave less favorable treatment to very specific decks, so as to open the meta up more. On a side note: Does Hero's really need even MORE support?
Heroes getting more support would be interesting to get new styles to play hero, if new support gives you a new way to play that deck like going from beat down to a control deck then that kinda support is welcome, but if its more of the same kinda support then no thanks even as a hero player.
@@jixezwcon9 I want more hero support, but I don’t want negates. I’m sick and tired of every good deck having negates and floodgates. I’d rather heroes get more grind, better removal, etc etc
@@stephenlee7405 I don't like negates either, but Konami won't stop making every strong deck around them anytime soon. If this is the game we're going to play, so be it.
It’s all about the context in which cards were released. If underpowered decks like S force and Dream Mirror had been released a few years earlier, they might have seen more play.
May I ask what you mean by that? I play Dream mirrors myself and I've been having a lot of fun with that deck especially now that the dark fairy counterpart came out in Battle of Chaos so I'm curious on other people's takes.
S-force isn't actually as bad as people thought. It's pretty average but it can be pretty deadly when it does it's thing. Dream mirror on the other hand....
@@notimportant493 I don't know, Dream Mirror is a slow build, but once it gets going, there's a lot of interruptions it can do. It's a deck that has quite the learning curve. It's not a deck for hardcore combo players that's for sure lol. But I prefer decks that are more methodical.
I play a relatively small archetype and as a fan, one among few, I just wish Konami gave us some love. I am loyal and happy with where it is now, but a little more would be nice. I play Heroes. Joking aside, I think Darklords feel like an archetype that should have been bigger than it is. It's so close to being rogue. It needs just a card or two to make it all come together, because right now, Darklords is known for being bricky. Just one more support card that allows special summoning of the brick cards, which is searchable with Banishment.
omg yes, I love playing darklords in MD. It's just that they crumple to ash blossom a bit too easily and require so many in-archetype cards to work that if you run too many techs or hand traps you end up being unable to use a bunch of the cards. So many times you end up having to just summon nasten or indulged darklord, set 2 and pass with almost no resources to recover if you don't get killed outright. Then you have to pray for a perfect topdeck and for it not to get negated.
Not every archetype is mean to be competitive, they know these decks will become expensive and a lot of people won't pay for them, so they print casual decks. What I dislike is the lack of constant support, I don't want to wait 10 years for my favorite deck to get support.
True but the most expensive decks are also the most popular. Besides the shiny new toys you have Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician, Heroes, Six Samurai, and Cydra as crazy $$ to holo and over $1000 to have the best versions.
When looking at archetypes I look to see if there are any locks in the archetype and if not is there a way to splash them with other stuff. An example is as funny as it is when a friend started taking games with Appliancers it had me noticing some of them lack a once per turn or can spam themselves out but within the archetype itself the ceiling is only so high. And that’s where people much smarter than most of the playerbase find that other archetype to run with the weaker one so Lunalights with Time Thief or Orcust, or Tribrigade with Lyrilusc. I love seeing these archetypes merging together because it speaks to the creativity of the community in their deck building. Like who wasn’t surprised to see Lunalight win a YCS in a format of orcust and thunder dragon?
with how generic Extra Deck Cards and Engine like DPE Artifact are these days The only difference between Rogue and Meta decks seem to be Consistency and speed. We're all ending on very similar boards and it's making the meta stagnant
The thing with engines and decks in general is that, it reminds of that one quote "the more things change the more they stay the same". I've been listening/watching to Cimo's History of Yu-Gi-Oh whenever I'm in game or not from time to time, and I've noticed that there's not really that much of a difference this current format is compared to the formats of yu-gi-oh's younger days except probably for the pace of the game, where most decks are technically just goodstuff decks with different flavors. The best example of this are most GOAT format decks and more especially the TeleDAD decks, and the point gets even clearer as the format moves forward into the future where the set releases start featuring archetypes in them more frequently. People would argue that the powercreep started when Cyber Dragon got released, some would say that Dark Armed Dragon was the tipping point, others would even go as far back as the Gravekeepers despite only peaking in relevance during the late Synchro to early Xyz era, but regardless of all that, patterns exist for a reason, and we will eventually have a format where you'll see a lot of goodstuff/kitchen sink decks running around, determining the standard of what it takes to be the best deck and if anything, we might already be there. That's not to say that it's a good thing entirely, though.
I like the God Cards, I am really annoyed how those didn't get animations in Master Duel other than the most niche card among them, Ra Phoenix Mode. I feel like they are due for getting upgraded versions, closer to what they can do in the anime. Take Slifer for example, what would be so hard about just making him work on Def as well, like in the anime, also give all of them them Kaiju protection, which they also have in the Anime. The title is very true, not all decks are created equal, but something you only briefly talked about is the huge amount of powercreep in this game. It is not just that things are not created euqal, stuff has escalated so far, that something like original Anime Ra with a literal page of effects would now a days be just fine for a boss monster, since it is pretty hard to bring out. So yeah, while you are right that there is a good reason for not all decks being designed on the same level of complexity or power, I feel like there is no good reason for the seemingly countless amount of boss monsters, that were obviously designed as big scary boss monsters, that just aren't like that anymore or never were to begin with. I feel like the more I think about it, the more annoying it gets, because the game could have so many more things actually be really decent if the powercreep wasn't that severe or was addressed somehow.
@@Protect_all_ljf3forms The only level of additional protection that would actually do something for them (without buffing their other effects) would be complete immunity to the effects of monsters that aren't gods. Actually, that would be pretty cool, as it would give you some incentive to run a god card to potentially remove opposing god cards, while also giving you something pretty decent. Combined with their field spell that would actually give them some staying power, considering they can't for example get Zeus-ed to oblivion in that case. They would still be far from OP, they may still gett skill drained or something. But yeah, something like that + Kaiju protection and a buff to Slifer's ability to also target def is probably a good way to start.
@@Darkwater2013 Or maybe just straight immunity to targeting and destruction effects? Obviously they're still a ton of ways to beat that, but it's close to their anime effects (like in the end of the original anime where they can be effected by cards in the Pharaoh v. Yugi duel). I think their need to be tribute summoned with 3 monsters is a big enough downside to give them better protection than that though
@@justalurker3489 Their support field spell does that, so I would want something that adds to it, rather than do the same. Immunity to most monster effects would keep it alive against things that can bypass the field effect.
Yu gi oh is the only game that I can’t understand the design behind archetypes and cards. It just feels like Konami prints effects and archetypes without a coherent or consistent philosophy to guide power level.
Thanks for making this video! As a new player, this is something I wish I was more aware of before buying my first deck. I ended up loving my deck (Spirit Charmers) and I'm playing it a lot in TCG and Master Duel, but there was a lot of frustration at the beginning because I didn't understand why it was so weak and I thought it was completely unviable (it wasn't lol). It's important to know where your deck stands on the tier list so you know it's limitations and what you would need to make it as viable as possible.
I started playing Shaddoll around 2 months ago, once I got comfortable with the pure deck I added dogmatika and then afterwards Invoked, and truth be told Invoked/Shaddoll/Dogmatika is boring asf so I just took it out to play a deck that feels more enjoyable
Personally I find DPE IDS to be one of the most fun decks to play, and just an extremely streamlined deck (there's basically no room for superfluous stuff and the deck is basically solved). But I definitely see why it could be boring to others.
@@jadegrace1312 I agree 100% I love using the deck in a new format. It's great when you know exactly what your deck does, so you can focus on what you're opponent is doing.
For me it's simple: 1- consistency such as sky strikers, phantom knights, orcust, adamancepators, tribrigade, and dragon links. Combo heavy decks capable of accruing card economy and searching for specific cards instantly. 2- recursion such as eldlich, salamangreat, traptrix, invoke, dogmatika, and yangzing. Decks that can easily recover and out grind the competition. 3- power such as qliphort towers, vanities fiend, kozmo destroyer, gren maju, exodia, calamities, utopic zexal, domain monarch, and true draco master peace. power cards that require set up but are basically win conditions when brought out.
I honestly just pick my favourite aesthetics when assembling decks, usually online ones. I've made Frightfurs, Magician Girls, Solfachords, Ghostricks, Madolche...etc. Mostly because they look cute. Some of them happen to be really strong, which is nice, but all of them are fun to mess around with. I much prefer "archetype" decks over other stuff though, meaning I hinder myself by not using generic good cards everyone else picks, but just anything that was meant for the archetype so any decks listed here that seem pretty strong or good rogue decks, yeah they're not functioning the way you probably assume. I'd like a few more competitive decks to suit my tastes but I'm happy the way things are now.
I kind of just miss the days when the “meta” had a bunch of generic support that could be splashed into any deck, rather than a bunch of overpowering archetypes. Now we have “engines” that can be splashed into decks but they are less “support” and useful win-conditions instead. Idk it’s kinda whack.
The other issue Konami has is its lack of support for monster types as well as attributes. We have dragon, fiend, and spellcaster support coming out of our ears. Light, dark, and Earth attribute support that is generic enough to work for multiple archetypes within them etc. It would honestly be great if they gave more love to the other monster types and attributes as far as generic support that can unify them and give more casual decks options
Exactly! There’s so few Rock support cards, or Wyrm, or Sea-Serpent. Like yeah the 153rd Dragon support of the year is fine and all but we really need more for the rest. There’s, what, 27 monster types or something like that? We only get frequent support for maybe 5
🤷♂️The difference between Higher and lower Tier decks, is the amount of options of plays you can go into. A lot of meta decks just have more options to pull from their resources than what most regular decks can manage. It’s almost like running an aim bot assist when playing a high percentage win rate deck.🤷♂️
IMO, if you wat to have more of a back and forth with us, doing streams would help, running duel rooms with either play set limited, or having ya'lls own lil tourneys, not like a real prize would need to be given out, maybe just a shout out, or hell even a chance to be put on the stream with you guys via zoom or something. like a community guest night?
I love the Ghostricks but I know they may never be even close to meta. It a shame cause I like their play style, it's not aggressive or all about attacking. And they have so many cards, you would think they would be more versatile. I use a Vampire deck atm in Master Duel and it's great. I feel like it needs adjusting but I know it's going to lose steam soon. Although its possibly impractical, I do wish pure archetype decks could be more viable.
i too love ghostricks not only for their playstyle, but their aesthetic too cause they are so freaking cute and it really plays like cute little trouble makers trying to scare you for a laugh. I have seen a ghostrick engine in some other decks that can get draco future out pretty easy but it isnt always consistent.
My favourite deck of the hour is Megalith, and I agree. As it's own engine, its fine enough. Disuption at quick speed is always really good, but then you realise that they can spam ritual monsters like crazy and leave you into a fully powered Nephtys the sacred flames very often on turn 1, which is then a huge problem for the opponent to deal with. Plus with the Impcantation and Senju/Manju lineup, consistency is very high.
I think you summed it up pretty well...However i simply see it as biased favoritism, which i know is wrong but...is it? If konami makes a new meta deck and gives basically every card within it, all of the negates, all of the searches, all the quick effects for every card in that archetype; Isn't that a kick to the teeth to every other archetype, and konami's way of saying, "We want this deck to win everytime."
I enjoy playing decks that used to be top tier/close, like Metalfoes, D/Ds, and Twins, then I play low power decks like Magistus Charmers, Magikeys, and Nordics. I enjoy the range of deck power, and how it feels like any deck has a chance(for the most part)
I would like to make a disclaimer first, I only play master duel at the moment, but I like to keep up with what's happening in the tcg and ocg, so I'm not unaware of it, so something I will say are also about the tcg, I migth even use some duel links stuff as example, but mostly I'm gonna base my exp in master duel, so anyone is completely free to disregard anything anything I say, and if I'm wrong, I'm open to learn some takes, that being said here is my opinion. The power levels, a deck seem to be most powerful based on how consistently it can make GENERIC boss monsters, gamebreaker GENERIC cards or play powerful engines and play trhu interruptions, this seems pretty obvious, but I would like to put emphasis in generic, in master duel the top decks seem to be tribrigade zoodiac, and drytron, drytron can play thru a couple of interruptions and can go into an insane boss monster that's NOT from their own archetype, and can afford to play engines or good cards such as eva/cyber angel/heralds as well as hand traps, tri brigade can easily go into Zeus, virtual world into vfd, phantom knights into rhongobongo, and all them can go into apollousa and accesscode, if we take duel links as an example shiranui was insane because it could just play all the traps that for a while were the most powerful cards in duel links, and in the tcg, decks that can go into predaplant anaconda to go into any boss monster, decks that can play the adventure engine, decks that can go into accesscode or apollousa, and I gotta say, that's not fun at all, I stopped playing my agent deck (that was by far my favorite archetype) because the better it was, the most it looked like any other deck, ending in apollousa + borrelsword + any other floodgate, and at that point it migth as well be any other deck, like dinos, or phantom knights, what was the point of playing a unique deck if it would end up into the same board as any other deck, I switch to weather painters and I gotta say, as slow and annoying as it is it was also the most fun I had, the archetype has a unique gimmick, that even if you could easily go into other monsters, you really had no motivation to do so, it's nearly impossible to play other cards in that deck, and the only reason to go into non archetype is for a plan b, and the boss monster unique to this archetype is also pretty good tough harder to make effectively, playing more competitively doremichord is also an archetype I really enjoyed, while it also ended in generic monsters most of the time the in archetype cards were nothing to sneeze at, a pure solfachord deck is actually pretty decent, and in a world were all decks were archetype exclusive it would be one of the strongest, that's were I'm getting at in my wishlist, giving archetypes strong boss monsters but limit them to the archetype, archetypes like shaddolls or mekknigths, still make it able to play good generic cards for consistency, but limit the boss monsters to their own archetype, a pure tri brigade or tribrigade lyrulisc would still be insane, but it couldnt go into Zeus, virtual world that couldn't go into vfd, drytron that can't go into herald, the same decks, without the generic boss monsters, and drop the engines, like adverturer or halqifibrax, that only benefits some decks, this would make it so you actually had to choose what deck you are playing making all of them equally interesting, and you can still deckbuild for whatever makes your deck, more consistent, not all archetypes need to be only archetype cards, but all the bosses would need to be summon with that archetype.
recently got into yugioh and this channel, particularly these kinds of talky type videosve been my favorite yugioh content here on youtube theyre rlly fun and help me understand things better
I always look for cards which are "overlooked" and try to build a deck around them or integrate them into my decks if they fit in preferably older, forgotten and weaker themes are always enjoyable to upgrade and see how far they can reach with unusual support while still being honest to there original theme
Here is a nice topics: - If yugioh had a resource system what would it be and how would it work? - Is there a way to measure how good an archetype is? Like a point system.
One thing I've seen here and there is Konomi giving an underpowered archetype a strong boss monster like the Fortune Lady's Synchro monster. Unfortunately A single powerful monster isn't enough to combat strategies like Eldlich or pocket Zeus.
The problem is it's a clusterfuck of tiers even within the lower ends. Unchained is just better Fire King. Mekk-Knights are better Magical Musketeers where duur duur columns. And if you want a good trap oriented archetype that isn't Eldich, you should play Traptrix over Musketeers. Nekroz is dead, TeleDAD is dead, Jinzo is dead. These used to be feared archetypes and now nobody could be paid to play them. Meanwhile people are still playing Zoodiac and Sky Striker. Would still be playing Thunder Dragon if they could.
I have always and will always simply choose decks based on their aesthetics instead of meta, tiers, consistency, etc. However, it does suck when the deck I choose turns out to be a good tier deck and my friends are out playing their more lower rarity fun archetypes. As the only one who regularly competes, I feel obligated at times to build a much lower tier deck in order to not completely ruin the fun.
I also choose my decks based on the aesthethic or gameplay, faeries is my favorite type, and I love playing darklords, weather painters, agents and solfachords, and would love to play Trickstars and artifacts, the problem was that the better the deck becomes, the more they look like others, what's the point of playing each unique deck if all of them are gonna end on apollousa, accesscode talker or borrelsword.
I choose my deck based on consistency because it doesn't matter what you play, if you summon your boss monster once every 5 games it sucks. Or lose to one Ash. Ceiling doesn't matter but the deck has to do its job every time whatever that job might be.
archetype power levels are an interesting thing for the casual scene since if a deck is made worst than anouther deck and has an interesting look it can make a deck more accessible price wise and if its mainly a locals player there is a lot of leniency with usable decks. sets which have lower power levels if not short printed (dragonmaids) serve a really good purpose
The case of floowandereeze is funny for me, i am a returning player and i still struggle to learn about link summon and coming from a six samurai FTK background i want a deck that is slow and no need for extra decks. Lo and behold it has become one of the bane of the other decks like live twin or salad
I like cards that are good and can be splash into your deck with not much restrictions, because if you look at Yugi, Joey, and Kaiba for example they're decks were a mix of different cards they liked and won from duels and they were not really part of archetypes. I hope that makes sense? Decks close to Junk Doppel/Tengu Plants and Pile decks are my favorite decks to play.
YOOO you’re another Dual Avatar fan! It was my first deck ever (I play Master Duel), and I want up to Plat V with it. It’s still my favorite even though I’ve been playing Beetrooper, but my goodness is that deck in its own way 😂
Definitely feels bad that an archetype isn't appealing enough to be widely used. When I heard all those names Paul, i just thought of "ugh, those decks". Personally i just want an archetype to do well without being too restrictive or losing lot of resource. Ursarctic and odgoadic were cool initially until I played them to see them losing cards faster than my usual decks. And the end results didn't feel worth making in the end.
Small archetypes like nephthys or end of the world benefit from generic support like benten or vanity ruler. Yes i agree that all archetype aren't created equal but one of their biggest strengths if you have no outs for it then, you just screwed.
Played pure naturia on a whim in master duel since I somehow had all the cards for the deck,(which is rare for me). And it's hilarious how well it can do. Can't quite beat meta, but it can drag the duel out for longer than expected
I can understand certain decks having advantages over others or just being better. I think the problem a lot of people have myself included, is that the game they're giving us is very different from what they're showing us and it's to the point where it feels like a completely different game than what was advertised. Imagine you're an anime watcher and you pick up a deck from the show because you like how it looks, how it works, or becauseit reminds you of a character you like. Then you go to play in real life at a locals and everyone is playing a deck that you never saw before on any season of the anime or its various iterations and now you're getting bodied by all these annoying negate spam, lock down, and wombo combo meta decks completely unprepared because they never pulled this crap in the show. Well okay they do combos because we want to see people playing the game, but the combos in the show usually don't end on negate spam like they do irl. You'd be pretty darn peeved because now you feel like you just wasted your time and money on a game that isn't what you thought it was. And for some bizarre reason, Konami refuses to accommodate for the audience it cultivated. Catering exclusively to a hyper competitive crowd that could literally care less.
This is a great comment. And an interesting perspective to hear. I enjoyed the OG anime as a kid, but once I learned competitive aspects of the game, I started to dislike the anime, bcz the experience I was having was so different. I realized that Yugi and almost all the protagonist deck's would suck IRL and that they are all essentially cheating. So as a competitive-minded player I dislike the anime, while you are a more casual player who enjoys the anime and has been put off by competitive play. Very interesting to see the opposite side of the coin. I personally think the anime should focus onthe in-game lore. Duel Terminal, World Legacy, this Dogmatika arc would be amazing to see in the anime. But, if they were stay with the same formula, it would be nice to see the main characther have an actually viable meta deck. and see them use Forbidden Droplets, Evenly Matched, etc.
@@Jcbryant123 anime characters have had viable meta decks going as far back as GX. Heck, there were moments where even characters from the dm anime used their cards the same way meta players did back then. Meta constantly changes so it shouldn't be used as a metric to judge any season of the anime by. Your competitive deck might be good now, but chances are it won't be years later. Plus meta is just boring. All the so called "competitive" decks focus on is locking the opponent out of the game. Seems pretty Anti competitive if you ask me. There was this one duel in Vrains where Yusaku was dueling a bot whose strategy was ripping his hand away before his turn even started and it's implied that the bot could play in a way that kept him from ever getting cards. It was basically a next gen Yata lock. And it was the most boring episode ever. It was never printed thank God, but if it was you can bet every competitive player would've picked it up because competitive players will take any chance to turn this 2-4 player game into solitaire.
@@dustinvance243 "Anime characters have had viable meta decks going as far back as GX." --can you name a single example. Bcz this was the TeleDaD era. When was that represented on the show? "Heck, there were moments where even characters from the dm anime used their cards the same way meta players did back then." --Yugi using Pot of Greed isn't a representation of a "Good Stuff deck, the meta deck from that period. Also, how else could you use Pot of Greed, or the other 19 DM staples that defined that era? It's not like they were part of some intricate combo. Absolutely not. Yugi's trash 60 card pile of brick deck is exactly what I am contrasting. How horrible Yugi's deck would have been IRL to the "Good Stuff" DM-era meta deck. "Meta constantly changes so it shouldn't be used as a metric to judge any season of the anime by. Your competitive deck might be good now, but chances are it won't be years later." -Again, this doesn't make sense. No on is asking for the GX anime to represent competitive yugioh FOREVER, or "years later". I'm just discussing how the current aired animes didnt showcase or represent the current competitve landscape. We never saw anyone running Dragon Rulers or Spellbooks in Zexal for example. Which is what you would have seen if you went to your locals during that period. "Plus meta is just boring. All the so called "competitive" decks focus on is locking the opponent out of the game. Seems pretty Anti-competitive if you ask me." --And this part of your response, along with the rest is irrelevent. I didn't respond for this to devolve into an argument about your disdain for competitve play.
I am purely responding to this portion of your OP: "I think the problem a lot of people have myself included, is that the game they're giving us is very different from what they're showing us and it's to the point where it feels like a completely different game than what was advertised. Imagine you're an anime watcher and you pick up a deck from the show... Then you go to play in real life at a locals and everyone is playing a deck that you never saw before on any season of the anime." And my point was just contrasting perspectives. And how I find your perspective interesting. I dont like the anime because it doesn't represent or showcase the most competitive elements of the game. On the other hand, as a fan of the anime, you dont like how competitive play has no resemblance to the anime. Essentially both of us are dissatisfied that the anime is so different from TCG play, only we are dissatisfied for different reasons. I find that interesting, do you not? This is my point, not to devolve into a meta VS casual conversation.
@@Jcbryant123 teledad was a 5ds era deck. psychic type wasn't even a thing back in GX. As for examples to pull from, the two most prominent archetypes i can think of were cyber dragons used by Zane, and destiny heroes which were used by Aster. Cyber Dragon was a powerful monster to summon so it was generically splashed everywhere and when it came to the deck itself, it had tons of 0tk potential with cards like powerbond, limiter removal overload fusion and chimeratech overdragon. As for destiny heroes, diamond dude turbo was a thing, malicious was strong, and they had destiny hero plasma. If you actually look there were characters using powerful cards and decks that were prominent in the meta for a time. And as shocking as this might sound even dm had some cheeky meta plays. Remember giant trunade and premature burial? Remember how they were both banned because of how they worked together? What if I told there was an episode of dm where Joey of all characters used that combo?
When I pick a deck, I always keep in mind, can I answer my opponent’s blue eyes dragons from my main deck. I really don’t like losing to blue eyes because they negated my access to the extra deck and all the monsters in my deck are smaller
Well you kinda just know when an archetype is gonna be good the cards just feel cracked. Like reading floowandereeze cards for the first time I was like…” what do you mean they can tribute a card on the opponents field ?” “Wait wait… 3 additional normal summons ???
Let's be real, konami makes certain archetypes better than others solely cause of money. They want to make really powerful archetypes and/or engines and make them really expensive so people will buy them and they will make more money. A modern example being the brave engine. And I feel it's often at the cost of making the game more unhealthy and less fun. Sworsoul tenyi which just came out to the tcg just last year many would argue has already been powercrept by top decks now such as all the different kinds of pile on decks or the decks/cards expected to come to the tcg later this year which is ridiculous. If konami is gonna keep power creeping this game in such short periods they should at least continue to give older archetypes like volcanics, amazoness, harpies, crystal beasts, cloudians, monarchs, the egyptian gods, and so forth the support to at least be decent rogue options. These archetypes are what brought a lot of people into yugioh in the first place and are very liked and memorable to old school players like myself which gave yugioh the popularity and recognition when it first became a thing in the West to be as successful and well known as it is today. Just like how dark magician, heroes, and blue eyes have gotten tons of support to make them good rogue options the same should be done for all the archetypes from the duel monsters and GX era.
When I try to find/build a deck I wanna find one that suits my play style and or if it is easy to learn and build. I don't mind playing archetypes, but not lot of them have caught my eye for reasons and things. I would like to see more archetypes get the same kind of support so they can match well with others. Especially my current favorite Monarchs. Maybe Konami can create cards that can fix the one thing I hate about that archetype like fix the bricking issues
Hey Paul, longtime viewer and subscriber. I have to say, one thing that does disappoint me about my most recent Yugi-tubers that I enjoy following, is Master Duel. I honestly see it pulling traditional Yu-Gi-Oh players away from the actual, physical card game. Master Duel has done something unprecedented by making it available across all platforms not excluding cellphones and tablets. This is starting to make all content Master Duel content. I already didn't care for the virtual/video form of card gaming to begin with. It just always seemed so impersonal. I prefer to see the misplays, hear the fun, see the deck building process; partially & just enjoy the overall experience of a group of friends having fun as if I was right there. I've actually pulled away from a lot of people I've subscribed to because of they have become all about Master Duel. I can appreciate that you have remained consistent and understand how to adapt in moderation. I'd love to see more theme duels. Those were very entertaining to watch. PS can we get Alex and Alek in the same duel. Please. It's like we never see them together anymore. That would be awesome to see them as captains in a two on two team duel. Thanks for all the content. Keep it up. Hope you use my idea.
Bruh Master Duel has created SO many more fans it’s crazy! I haven’t played competitive Yu Gi Oh since my local Toys R Us tournament in 2003, and since playing master duel I’ve been going to my local card shops and attempting to build these decks I’m using in MD (damn they are expensive) lol I get what you’re saying. I feel like Master Duel has had the opposite effect of what you think. Yugitubers are definitely focusing on MD more which I think was the basis of your complaint lol.
I just started playing seriously in the last few months and the first deck i built was ice barriers and for the most parts Iv been playing against a bunch of odd eyes and pendulum and as much as I love ice barriers I just can’t compete and outside of the reprint in hidden arsenal I don’t see any support coming anytime soon sadly
I'll admit I just got stupid lucky as somebody that loves Synchro and Chinese archetypes. Yang Zings used to be super strong, and Swordsouls/Tenyi is so good right now. I guess someone at Konami and myself just have similar tastes.
an archetype that I see not get a lot of hype or if I'm not seeing the hype is Dinomorphia. The archetype itself is very gimmicky and very small and very trap heavy but mixed in with other dino cards and you'll be pump out some decent results and this deck has been my new main deck to play, was it budget somewhat to not as the main cards that were pricey was the domain and solemn judgement. But this deck is a low mid tier deck and since the new support comes out in like two months it could bump up a bit but not fully
I kind a view this as an arms race. In order to win you need to beat what is causing you to lose. The problem is that the dominant strategy is to prevent the game from being played.
tfw I played frognarchs/sea lancer all the way til 2015, quit because I just couldn't keep up with all the new busted archetypes and support, and then they released all the new monarch support after I stopped playing
imagine they have different teams developing archetypes at konami but they're not allowed to communicate so they always come out at different strengths
Here is a question. Do you have any thoughts on acetypes that technically aren´t acetypes? First that comes to mind are Railcars/trains. And why Konami would treat some group of cards like that?
I think the deck is just called Rank 10 Trains, but indeed its not an archetype by name. Although Infinitrack is an archetype. And they do that (i think) to make new cards outside of the archetype to support them, that you may play in another more good stuff deck (my hypothesis though).
Those cards simply wasn't intended to be an archetype. The character that played trains for instance just played train-themed cards that focused on making Gustav Max...which was a very popular card. Since they didn't give them a specific name in the first place, they just made do had their effects work with level 10 EARTH machines.
I haven’t bought any paper products, but I wouldn’t mind some content covering the culture behind YuGiOh playmats. I saw some at the store and thought they looked pretty interesting
My old card deck cant get support cause, i mean.... anywho thanks for this video, it made me realize its fine i dont win that often. however im still worried its because im not good enough of a deck builder and not the card pool
Man I don't use the pre made pre named deck crap they put out ,I'm from the dark armed dragon era where you hunted cards that worked well together they didn't come made to order and take 3 minutes to finish one turn,it required the heart of the cards not the name of it to get what you needed and strategy ,with these already made decks you just Auto play basically you're a human auto play machine with the new named decks.
@@MrJuan_Vzla Including some a them is avoidable but doable ,it's about your preference what type of duelist are you in your heart.. and if you're dedicated enough to find the right cards to fit your requirements because there are thousands.
I stopped playing yugi oh probably 13ish years ago. Picked up master duel, made a blue eyes deck because I love dragons, and it was my favorite card growing up. Anyone able to tell me how good they are and if there's cards missing from master duel that exist that aren't in the game yet?
2:48 what I'm beginning to pick up here, and probably jumping to a conclusion, is that one of the biggest issues with yugioh is linearity. Decks that aren't just powerful but that are linear, easy to pilot, have 1-card combos and starters, and a plethora of extenders. Even with all that, they still have room for many staple cards
I just wish they were a bit more consistent with the number of support cards an archtype gets. Like why does Exosisters (which I love btw) get 3 support cards already while Rikka and Solfachord which have been around for a lot more get just one. Solfachord in particular is basically unplayable, they could really use some decent support...
As a returning player what kind of videos/channels should I follow to get back into it? I have a bls deck from several years ago that's outdated and slow.... I just don't know where to start and I don't know what most people are talking about anymore. Thanks in advance!
I picked up Goukis honestly because I love the designs. I didn't even stop to see if they were even good. I'm still not sure if they're good but they're fun
Watching this video and all I can think of is man I wish they gave us more Melodious cards. I love the archetype and I really never see anyone play them. I feel like I’m the only obe
I love volcanic decks. But people that played the game just stop playing with me due to them saying that it's weak. This video will help people realize that not all decks are going to be the same and the power level will be different and so will people's play styles.
It's nice to have the odd bogie deck, the ones you try because you want a challenge. Likewise it's good to have more...brainless ones for when you can't be bothered, or don't have time. Concerning the competitive Meta, I think the game caters a bit too much to players who want ' archetypal triangle formats', rather than a varied Meta of strategies. There's always a few archetypes and strategies that are so competitive they leave a huge gulf between themselves and everything else.
i personally enjoy the metaphys archtype the most but i dont think itll get to much more(if any) support and i find that metaphys is powerful and fun but its first turn is typically just a normal summon which is depressing.
perso if every archetype could have hope that going pure they can pass 1 negate and go to an end board(1 in archetype boss monster/win-cond on the field) with at least 50% of their hand. Then I would be happy. No more die in 1 ash or combo work once every blue moon.
I just wish that all archetypes would be finished products after 2 or 3 sets and would be playable. Not at meta capacity, but playable. I definitely think engines have a right to exist but an engine should be a complementary aspect of an already functioning deck, not carrying the entire metagame. I love the way Adventure is designed but it is just too expensive for me. If Gryphon did not have an omni negate the engine would not have seen this much meta relevance and more players could have enjoyed the actual archetype for what it brings to the table as a whole. Day 801 of Orcust Harp Horror being unjustly banned. X days until the unbanned of Orcust Harp Horror. 6+ years and Clausolas still cannot search a good Nekroz trap card.
And then there are arctypes, once strong, then only an engine and now a one out of five win. Looking at you Subterror. Since link monsters came out, wich cannot be flipped face down even Guru becomes a Garnet. Arctypes in general cannot be equally strong because arctypes are build around a certain playstyle. Some playstyles are stronger than others, some even allow FTKs (and are hit by the banlist if they can pull that of consistently). But that is one reason I prefer Yugi over other CCGs. Different playstyles and diffent ways to win not only beatdown.
I like this because this is what i was thinking in my self about konami.. Me playing raidraptors and hoping for support but all cards and archtypes have this power i think as a deck or as an engine or just for people who love thess types or arts and have fun seeing it in the game
I also play raidraptors and tbh they feel like they are 2 cards away from meta. They can make infinite negates going first. They can otk with arc rebellion but that is hard as they can't break boards. Their other problem being handtraps
@@markogamingtv7030 exactly they are so good and i always think they need like a cool field spell 😆 I put triple dark ruler no more and triple lightning storm to balance the duels a little bit against meta decks Any advices from you?
Nah not rly, I don't have the money for dark ruler or lighting storm so I put triple kaiju and forbidden chalice instead. You can get rid of the kaiju from their side a million ways(revolution falcon, infinity, arc reb, dark requiem, rusty..). But yeah the field spell could work. I have 3 of the new simorgh just missing their field spell tho, they are pretty good in the deck
Ogdoadics are way better than I expected the new reptiles to be, but they're still bad and I'm actually ok with that. They're cheap and playable to a certain level, and that keeps their prices low and the masses from learning them. I hope we can see more new archetypes fill the pet slot for other people the way this one has for me
What frustrates me more than sheer power level of decks is random unnecessary restrictions and card interactions not working that seem so obvious. My usual example of this is time thief adjuster, time thief is a bit of a fan favourite deck (or at least people love redoer) and they gave adjuster a 1 eff per turn clause it didnt need, then they release tempwhaler which summons itself from the GY by bouncing a TT monster you control. OH? So its meant to bounce adjuster, summon itself then trigger aduster for a rank 4 every turn right? NOPE it summons simultaneously so it wont trigger adjuster... WHY? Thats such an obvious interaction and yet it doesn't work like that and its just frustrating.
I've been playing Witchcrafter in Master Duel and Scroll is one thing I do not understand why they designed it the way it is. Once per turn you can draw a card if a spellcaster destroys a card by battle... It's the only one that isn't Witchcrafter specific with its effect, and if it was it wouldn't need to be once per turn because it's not like they have a ton of attack power.
When it comes to picking a deck to play. I personally like to take into consideration 3 things: is the deck relatively easy to learn?, is it fun to play?, and how much does it cost?, I like to not just play a deck cause it’s META rather because I want to play it though power level does come into consideration when I’m making my decision
Aesthetics are an important consideration as well, honestly. You want to enjoy what you're looking at and what you invested good money in, in the end.
Basically my decision making for decks like Dinomist and pure Krawlers. Cheap as hell, very easy first Pendulum deck for beginners for Dinomist and fairly straightforward for Krawlers, and it’s fun assuming you’re playing casually. Plus both are fairly unique archetypes
@@nofilterneito there's nothing straight forward from krawlers.
@@r3zaful IDK all I do is set two and pass for a good bit of the game until I start going into the links
Not all decks are, and probably can't be equally good, but at least Konami should allow every archetype to be playable by modern standards which a lot of older ones, just simply aren't (for now....)
Day 1120 of waiting for Good Pyro/Volcanic Support to arrive in the OCG/TCG..........
You are truly a legend
You are a legend
Woah, is it seriously Day 1120 already?? There's no way this has been going on for three whole years now! O_o
Day 6000+ of waiting for Cosmo Queen and Tri-horned Dragon support.
What a chad, My BLS deserves great supports to be existed in modern days, not too OP but it's competitive enough. And yeh volcanic also. Tired of waiting so i would use ygo card maker to make my own supports. It is over the moon
I agree not all archetypes should be equally strong, but i do thinking every archetypes should have good cards that are useful in its own archetype or a different one.
The problem I have is them not being open about which architypes they are putting on the back burner because as a player you could focus ones that aren't other than the ones that are and wasting your money
Its just really disappointing when you find an archetype you like, then you realize its not destined to go anywhere.
Maybe its to restrictive, the gameplan isn't as efficient, or its to commital.
I just wish Konami would throw a bone to the lessers.
Idk I play evil eye alot and if that normal summon or field spell gets negated you better hope you have the perfect hand because you don't do much of anything. Same if your Cutie gets ashed and what not.
Don't even start on the even older decks that needed 5 pieces to land on a single card..... fortune ladies.
Not everything is equal and nor do I think it should be. Just wish there was less disparity and more love for those that can not. You got decks that can play through 3 negates + and those that lose to a single one. Atleast try to get more decks to a playable modern stand.
Me with Watts lmao
A TON of those older archetypes just can’t compete with even the most mediocre modern decks unless they’re splashed with a newer archetype (following the Watts example, Watts+Thunder Dragons) but then it just feels like the modern archetype is being bogged down by the old one, and you’d be better off just playing a pure version of the modern
I don’t think there’s really a way to fix this without completely overhauling like 15 years worth of decks unfortunately
I often view an archetype/engine's power by how well the archetype performs its intended design and how splash-able it can be. An archetype that isn't splash-able can still be powerful if it has solid game design and synergy with itself. And vice versa where an archetype may be bricky with on its own, but can increase its strength by mixing with other archetypes.
What do you mean by "splash-able"?
@@squaredravens8004 Splash-able is how many archetypes another archetype/engine can mix with. Often, the highly splash-able archetypes also function as engines.
@@squaredravens8004 For instance you can slap the invoked engine anywhere you don't need your normal summon and have some extra deck space. Or the wind witch engine is basically 6 main deck cards that get you a massive plus into a clear wing, but if you made just wind witches they kind of suck.
@@squaredravens8004 basically it just means how easily or difficult a certain archetype can be included in a another deck with a totally different or similar strategy.
You know a deck is destined to be good when you see they have their version of Rota, DestinyDraw and last will.
The moment I saw bird call I was like: YEP meta
The archetype I'm personally most sad about being forgotten is Ninjas. I stopped playing just before Pendulums came out, and started up again with Master Duels release, and from what I've seen they've gotten a small handful of new cards in nearly 10 years since I stopped playing. Heartbreaking.
I guess at least my Dark Magicians got a lot of love, and my Ninjas are pretty cheap to build for the most part.
The last time ninjas saw any love was in duel links. It was meta for a while there.
Try building Ninja Clowns. Can't go wrong with Ninja Clowns.
Same man, I pulled 3 Hanzo and 1 Saizo from Master Packs and wanted to build ninjas but they're too weak to be worth it
I think it would be nice if they gave less favorable treatment to very specific decks, so as to open the meta up more.
On a side note: Does Hero's really need even MORE support?
Yes, negates.
Heroes getting more support would be interesting to get new styles to play hero, if new support gives you a new way to play that deck like going from beat down to a control deck then that kinda support is welcome, but if its more of the same kinda support then no thanks even as a hero player.
@@jixezwcon9 I want more hero support, but I don’t want negates. I’m sick and tired of every good deck having negates and floodgates. I’d rather heroes get more grind, better removal, etc etc
@@stephenlee7405 I don't like negates either, but Konami won't stop making every strong deck around them anytime soon. If this is the game we're going to play, so be it.
@@jixezwcon9 i mean, dpe is a perfect example of what i mean. The only problem is how easily non hero decks can use it
It’s all about the context in which cards were released. If underpowered decks like S force and Dream Mirror had been released a few years earlier, they might have seen more play.
Dream mirror.... Don’t get me started on that
May I ask what you mean by that? I play Dream mirrors myself and I've been having a lot of fun with that deck especially now that the dark fairy counterpart came out in Battle of Chaos so I'm curious on other people's takes.
@@SorenFE93 i love the deck, but ypu do really A LOT on the nrw support
S-force isn't actually as bad as people thought. It's pretty average but it can be pretty deadly when it does it's thing.
Dream mirror on the other hand....
@@notimportant493 I don't know, Dream Mirror is a slow build, but once it gets going, there's a lot of interruptions it can do. It's a deck that has quite the learning curve. It's not a deck for hardcore combo players that's for sure lol. But I prefer decks that are more methodical.
I play a relatively small archetype and as a fan, one among few, I just wish Konami gave us some love. I am loyal and happy with where it is now, but a little more would be nice.
I play Heroes.
Joking aside, I think Darklords feel like an archetype that should have been bigger than it is. It's so close to being rogue. It needs just a card or two to make it all come together, because right now, Darklords is known for being bricky. Just one more support card that allows special summoning of the brick cards, which is searchable with Banishment.
@@simesoa woooooosh
@@SPARTANLIVE777 thank you. Someone needed to say it. 😅
omg yes, I love playing darklords in MD. It's just that they crumple to ash blossom a bit too easily and require so many in-archetype cards to work that if you run too many techs or hand traps you end up being unable to use a bunch of the cards. So many times you end up having to just summon nasten or indulged darklord, set 2 and pass with almost no resources to recover if you don't get killed outright. Then you have to pray for a perfect topdeck and for it not to get negated.
Darklords is one of my favourite decks! I'm hopin new support will come out for the deck this year!
Leave us alone, we don't have a negate like everyone else T.T
Not every archetype is mean to be competitive, they know these decks will become expensive and a lot of people won't pay for them, so they print casual decks.
What I dislike is the lack of constant support, I don't want to wait 10 years for my favorite deck to get support.
True but the most expensive decks are also the most popular. Besides the shiny new toys you have Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician, Heroes, Six Samurai, and Cydra as crazy $$ to holo and over $1000 to have the best versions.
looks at Shinobirds >.>
When looking at archetypes I look to see if there are any locks in the archetype and if not is there a way to splash them with other stuff. An example is as funny as it is when a friend started taking games with Appliancers it had me noticing some of them lack a once per turn or can spam themselves out but within the archetype itself the ceiling is only so high. And that’s where people much smarter than most of the playerbase find that other archetype to run with the weaker one so Lunalights with Time Thief or Orcust, or Tribrigade with Lyrilusc. I love seeing these archetypes merging together because it speaks to the creativity of the community in their deck building. Like who wasn’t surprised to see Lunalight win a YCS in a format of orcust and thunder dragon?
with how generic Extra Deck Cards and Engine like DPE Artifact are these days
The only difference between Rogue and Meta decks seem to be Consistency and speed.
We're all ending on very similar boards and it's making the meta stagnant
The thing with engines and decks in general is that, it reminds of that one quote "the more things change the more they stay the same". I've been listening/watching to Cimo's History of Yu-Gi-Oh whenever I'm in game or not from time to time, and I've noticed that there's not really that much of a difference this current format is compared to the formats of yu-gi-oh's younger days except probably for the pace of the game, where most decks are technically just goodstuff decks with different flavors. The best example of this are most GOAT format decks and more especially the TeleDAD decks, and the point gets even clearer as the format moves forward into the future where the set releases start featuring archetypes in them more frequently. People would argue that the powercreep started when Cyber Dragon got released, some would say that Dark Armed Dragon was the tipping point, others would even go as far back as the Gravekeepers despite only peaking in relevance during the late Synchro to early Xyz era, but regardless of all that, patterns exist for a reason, and we will eventually have a format where you'll see a lot of goodstuff/kitchen sink decks running around, determining the standard of what it takes to be the best deck and if anything, we might already be there. That's not to say that it's a good thing entirely, though.
I like the God Cards, I am really annoyed how those didn't get animations in Master Duel other than the most niche card among them, Ra Phoenix Mode. I feel like they are due for getting upgraded versions, closer to what they can do in the anime. Take Slifer for example, what would be so hard about just making him work on Def as well, like in the anime, also give all of them them Kaiju protection, which they also have in the Anime. The title is very true, not all decks are created equal, but something you only briefly talked about is the huge amount of powercreep in this game. It is not just that things are not created euqal, stuff has escalated so far, that something like original Anime Ra with a literal page of effects would now a days be just fine for a boss monster, since it is pretty hard to bring out. So yeah, while you are right that there is a good reason for not all decks being designed on the same level of complexity or power, I feel like there is no good reason for the seemingly countless amount of boss monsters, that were obviously designed as big scary boss monsters, that just aren't like that anymore or never were to begin with. I feel like the more I think about it, the more annoying it gets, because the game could have so many more things actually be really decent if the powercreep wasn't that severe or was addressed somehow.
They don’t even need a big retrain just protection
They were supposed to be a win condition, not a detriment to a deck.
@@Protect_all_ljf3forms The only level of additional protection that would actually do something for them (without buffing their other effects) would be complete immunity to the effects of monsters that aren't gods. Actually, that would be pretty cool, as it would give you some incentive to run a god card to potentially remove opposing god cards, while also giving you something pretty decent. Combined with their field spell that would actually give them some staying power, considering they can't for example get Zeus-ed to oblivion in that case. They would still be far from OP, they may still gett skill drained or something. But yeah, something like that + Kaiju protection and a buff to Slifer's ability to also target def is probably a good way to start.
@@Darkwater2013 Or maybe just straight immunity to targeting and destruction effects? Obviously they're still a ton of ways to beat that, but it's close to their anime effects (like in the end of the original anime where they can be effected by cards in the Pharaoh v. Yugi duel). I think their need to be tribute summoned with 3 monsters is a big enough downside to give them better protection than that though
@@justalurker3489 Their support field spell does that, so I would want something that adds to it, rather than do the same. Immunity to most monster effects would keep it alive against things that can bypass the field effect.
Yu gi oh is the only game that I can’t understand the design behind archetypes and cards. It just feels like Konami prints effects and archetypes without a coherent or consistent philosophy to guide power level.
Seems like some go that way while others (the meta) seem really thought out and perfect
Thanks for making this video! As a new player, this is something I wish I was more aware of before buying my first deck. I ended up loving my deck (Spirit Charmers) and I'm playing it a lot in TCG and Master Duel, but there was a lot of frustration at the beginning because I didn't understand why it was so weak and I thought it was completely unviable (it wasn't lol). It's important to know where your deck stands on the tier list so you know it's limitations and what you would need to make it as viable as possible.
Yeah lol I play charmers and they are so great for how they have something for every occasion. But they definitely felt weak at first
I started playing Shaddoll around 2 months ago, once I got comfortable with the pure deck I added dogmatika and then afterwards Invoked, and truth be told Invoked/Shaddoll/Dogmatika is boring asf so I just took it out to play a deck that feels more enjoyable
Personally I find DPE IDS to be one of the most fun decks to play, and just an extremely streamlined deck (there's basically no room for superfluous stuff and the deck is basically solved). But I definitely see why it could be boring to others.
I have fun with it in master duel. Mostly just puzzling out when and where to negate other decks.
@@jadegrace1312 I agree 100% I love using the deck in a new format. It's great when you know exactly what your deck does, so you can focus on what you're opponent is doing.
For me it's simple:
1- consistency such as sky strikers, phantom knights, orcust, adamancepators, tribrigade, and dragon links. Combo heavy decks capable of accruing card economy and searching for specific cards instantly.
2- recursion such as eldlich, salamangreat, traptrix, invoke, dogmatika, and yangzing. Decks that can easily recover and out grind the competition.
3- power such as qliphort towers, vanities fiend, kozmo destroyer, gren maju, exodia, calamities, utopic zexal, domain monarch, and true draco master peace. power cards that require set up but are basically win conditions when brought out.
I honestly just pick my favourite aesthetics when assembling decks, usually online ones. I've made Frightfurs, Magician Girls, Solfachords, Ghostricks, Madolche...etc. Mostly because they look cute. Some of them happen to be really strong, which is nice, but all of them are fun to mess around with. I much prefer "archetype" decks over other stuff though, meaning I hinder myself by not using generic good cards everyone else picks, but just anything that was meant for the archetype so any decks listed here that seem pretty strong or good rogue decks, yeah they're not functioning the way you probably assume. I'd like a few more competitive decks to suit my tastes but I'm happy the way things are now.
I kind of just miss the days when the “meta” had a bunch of generic support that could be splashed into any deck, rather than a bunch of overpowering archetypes. Now we have “engines” that can be splashed into decks but they are less “support” and useful win-conditions instead. Idk it’s kinda whack.
The other issue Konami has is its lack of support for monster types as well as attributes. We have dragon, fiend, and spellcaster support coming out of our ears. Light, dark, and Earth attribute support that is generic enough to work for multiple archetypes within them etc. It would honestly be great if they gave more love to the other monster types and attributes as far as generic support that can unify them and give more casual decks options
Exactly! There’s so few Rock support cards, or Wyrm, or Sea-Serpent. Like yeah the 153rd Dragon support of the year is fine and all but we really need more for the rest. There’s, what, 27 monster types or something like that? We only get frequent support for maybe 5
🤷♂️The difference between Higher and lower Tier decks, is the amount of options of plays you can go into. A lot of meta decks just have more options to pull from their resources than what most regular decks can manage. It’s almost like running an aim bot assist when playing a high percentage win rate deck.🤷♂️
IMO, if you wat to have more of a back and forth with us, doing streams would help, running duel rooms with either play set limited, or having ya'lls own lil tourneys, not like a real prize would need to be given out, maybe just a shout out, or hell even a chance to be put on the stream with you guys via zoom or something. like a community guest night?
I love the Ghostricks but I know they may never be even close to meta. It a shame cause I like their play style, it's not aggressive or all about attacking. And they have so many cards, you would think they would be more versatile. I use a Vampire deck atm in Master Duel and it's great. I feel like it needs adjusting but I know it's going to lose steam soon. Although its possibly impractical, I do wish pure archetype decks could be more viable.
i too love ghostricks not only for their playstyle, but their aesthetic too cause they are so freaking cute and it really plays like cute little trouble makers trying to scare you for a laugh. I have seen a ghostrick engine in some other decks that can get draco future out pretty easy but it isnt always consistent.
My favourite deck of the hour is Megalith, and I agree. As it's own engine, its fine enough. Disuption at quick speed is always really good, but then you realise that they can spam ritual monsters like crazy and leave you into a fully powered Nephtys the sacred flames very often on turn 1, which is then a huge problem for the opponent to deal with. Plus with the Impcantation and Senju/Manju lineup, consistency is very high.
I think you summed it up pretty well...However i simply see it as biased favoritism, which i know is wrong but...is it?
If konami makes a new meta deck and gives basically every card within it, all of the negates, all of the searches, all the quick effects for every card in that archetype; Isn't that a kick to the teeth to every other archetype, and konami's way of saying, "We want this deck to win everytime."
I enjoy playing decks that used to be top tier/close, like Metalfoes, D/Ds, and Twins, then I play low power decks like Magistus Charmers, Magikeys, and Nordics. I enjoy the range of deck power, and how it feels like any deck has a chance(for the most part)
To be fair D/D is top tier again
Magistus, charmers, and magikey might have chance to be rogue in the future
I hope so 🤞
I would like to make a disclaimer first, I only play master duel at the moment, but I like to keep up with what's happening in the tcg and ocg, so I'm not unaware of it, so something I will say are also about the tcg, I migth even use some duel links stuff as example, but mostly I'm gonna base my exp in master duel, so anyone is completely free to disregard anything anything I say, and if I'm wrong, I'm open to learn some takes, that being said here is my opinion.
The power levels, a deck seem to be most powerful based on how consistently it can make GENERIC boss monsters, gamebreaker GENERIC cards or play powerful engines and play trhu interruptions, this seems pretty obvious, but I would like to put emphasis in generic, in master duel the top decks seem to be tribrigade zoodiac, and drytron, drytron can play thru a couple of interruptions and can go into an insane boss monster that's NOT from their own archetype, and can afford to play engines or good cards such as eva/cyber angel/heralds as well as hand traps, tri brigade can easily go into Zeus, virtual world into vfd, phantom knights into rhongobongo, and all them can go into apollousa and accesscode, if we take duel links as an example shiranui was insane because it could just play all the traps that for a while were the most powerful cards in duel links, and in the tcg, decks that can go into predaplant anaconda to go into any boss monster, decks that can play the adventure engine, decks that can go into accesscode or apollousa, and I gotta say, that's not fun at all, I stopped playing my agent deck (that was by far my favorite archetype) because the better it was, the most it looked like any other deck, ending in apollousa + borrelsword + any other floodgate, and at that point it migth as well be any other deck, like dinos, or phantom knights, what was the point of playing a unique deck if it would end up into the same board as any other deck, I switch to weather painters and I gotta say, as slow and annoying as it is it was also the most fun I had, the archetype has a unique gimmick, that even if you could easily go into other monsters, you really had no motivation to do so, it's nearly impossible to play other cards in that deck, and the only reason to go into non archetype is for a plan b, and the boss monster unique to this archetype is also pretty good tough harder to make effectively, playing more competitively doremichord is also an archetype I really enjoyed, while it also ended in generic monsters most of the time the in archetype cards were nothing to sneeze at, a pure solfachord deck is actually pretty decent, and in a world were all decks were archetype exclusive it would be one of the strongest, that's were I'm getting at in my wishlist, giving archetypes strong boss monsters but limit them to the archetype, archetypes like shaddolls or mekknigths, still make it able to play good generic cards for consistency, but limit the boss monsters to their own archetype, a pure tri brigade or tribrigade lyrulisc would still be insane, but it couldnt go into Zeus, virtual world that couldn't go into vfd, drytron that can't go into herald, the same decks, without the generic boss monsters, and drop the engines, like adverturer or halqifibrax, that only benefits some decks, this would make it so you actually had to choose what deck you are playing making all of them equally interesting, and you can still deckbuild for whatever makes your deck, more consistent, not all archetypes need to be only archetype cards, but all the bosses would need to be summon with that archetype.
recently got into yugioh and this channel, particularly these kinds of talky type videosve been my favorite yugioh content here on youtube theyre rlly fun and help me understand things better
Welcome to the party! :)
I always look for cards which are "overlooked" and try to build a deck around them or integrate them into my decks if they fit in preferably older, forgotten and weaker themes are always enjoyable to upgrade and see how far they can reach with unusual support while still being honest to there original theme
Eldlich only exists today because Konami hit Adamancipator literally right after it came out.
Here is a nice topics:
- If yugioh had a resource system what would it be and how would it work?
- Is there a way to measure how good an archetype is? Like a point system.
One thing I've seen here and there is Konomi giving an underpowered archetype a strong boss monster like the Fortune Lady's Synchro monster. Unfortunately A single powerful monster isn't enough to combat strategies like Eldlich or pocket Zeus.
The problem is it's a clusterfuck of tiers even within the lower ends.
Unchained is just better Fire King.
Mekk-Knights are better Magical Musketeers where duur duur columns. And if you want a good trap oriented archetype that isn't Eldich, you should play Traptrix over Musketeers.
Nekroz is dead, TeleDAD is dead, Jinzo is dead. These used to be feared archetypes and now nobody could be paid to play them. Meanwhile people are still playing Zoodiac and Sky Striker. Would still be playing Thunder Dragon if they could.
I have always and will always simply choose decks based on their aesthetics instead of meta, tiers, consistency, etc. However, it does suck when the deck I choose turns out to be a good tier deck and my friends are out playing their more lower rarity fun archetypes. As the only one who regularly competes, I feel obligated at times to build a much lower tier deck in order to not completely ruin the fun.
I also choose my decks based on the aesthethic or gameplay, faeries is my favorite type, and I love playing darklords, weather painters, agents and solfachords, and would love to play Trickstars and artifacts, the problem was that the better the deck becomes, the more they look like others, what's the point of playing each unique deck if all of them are gonna end on apollousa, accesscode talker or borrelsword.
I choose my deck based on consistency because it doesn't matter what you play, if you summon your boss monster once every 5 games it sucks. Or lose to one Ash. Ceiling doesn't matter but the deck has to do its job every time whatever that job might be.
@@shakeweller I also choose my favorite archetypes based on their viability and potential in competitive environments.
Invoked Shaddoll will be in the meta forever
4:51 "Cards will get more cards" XD
archetype power levels are an interesting thing for the casual scene since if a deck is made worst than anouther deck and has an interesting look it can make a deck more accessible price wise and if its mainly a locals player there is a lot of leniency with usable decks. sets which have lower power levels if not short printed (dragonmaids) serve a really good purpose
The case of floowandereeze is funny for me, i am a returning player and i still struggle to learn about link summon and coming from a six samurai FTK background i want a deck that is slow and no need for extra decks. Lo and behold it has become one of the bane of the other decks like live twin or salad
I like cards that are good and can be splash into your deck with not much restrictions, because if you look at Yugi, Joey, and Kaiba for example they're decks were a mix of different cards they liked and won from duels and they were not really part of archetypes. I hope that makes sense? Decks close to Junk Doppel/Tengu Plants and Pile decks are my favorite decks to play.
"Not all archetypes are created equal"
B.A.S.E.D.: yeah but how about all of them
YOOO you’re another Dual Avatar fan! It was my first deck ever (I play Master Duel), and I want up to Plat V with it. It’s still my favorite even though I’ve been playing Beetrooper, but my goodness is that deck in its own way 😂
Definitely feels bad that an archetype isn't appealing enough to be widely used. When I heard all those names Paul, i just thought of "ugh, those decks".
Personally i just want an archetype to do well without being too restrictive or losing lot of resource. Ursarctic and odgoadic were cool initially until I played them to see them losing cards faster than my usual decks. And the end results didn't feel worth making in the end.
Small archetypes like nephthys or end of the world benefit from generic support like benten or vanity ruler.
Yes i agree that all archetype aren't created equal but one of their biggest strengths if you have no outs for it then, you just screwed.
Played pure naturia on a whim in master duel since I somehow had all the cards for the deck,(which is rare for me). And it's hilarious how well it can do. Can't quite beat meta, but it can drag the duel out for longer than expected
I can understand certain decks having advantages over others or just being better. I think the problem a lot of people have myself included, is that the game they're giving us is very different from what they're showing us and it's to the point where it feels like a completely different game than what was advertised. Imagine you're an anime watcher and you pick up a deck from the show because you like how it looks, how it works, or becauseit reminds you of a character you like. Then you go to play in real life at a locals and everyone is playing a deck that you never saw before on any season of the anime or its various iterations and now you're getting bodied by all these annoying negate spam, lock down, and wombo combo meta decks completely unprepared because they never pulled this crap in the show. Well okay they do combos because we want to see people playing the game, but the combos in the show usually don't end on negate spam like they do irl. You'd be pretty darn peeved because now you feel like you just wasted your time and money on a game that isn't what you thought it was. And for some bizarre reason, Konami refuses to accommodate for the audience it cultivated. Catering exclusively to a hyper competitive crowd that could literally care less.
This is a great comment. And an interesting perspective to hear. I enjoyed the OG anime as a kid, but once I learned competitive aspects of the game, I started to dislike the anime, bcz the experience I was having was so different. I realized that Yugi and almost all the protagonist deck's would suck IRL and that they are all essentially cheating.
So as a competitive-minded player I dislike the anime, while you are a more casual player who enjoys the anime and has been put off by competitive play. Very interesting to see the opposite side of the coin.
I personally think the anime should focus onthe in-game lore. Duel Terminal, World Legacy, this Dogmatika arc would be amazing to see in the anime. But, if they were stay with the same formula, it would be nice to see the main characther have an actually viable meta deck. and see them use Forbidden Droplets, Evenly Matched, etc.
@@Jcbryant123 anime characters have had viable meta decks going as far back as GX. Heck, there were moments where even characters from the dm anime used their cards the same way meta players did back then. Meta constantly changes so it shouldn't be used as a metric to judge any season of the anime by. Your competitive deck might be good now, but chances are it won't be years later. Plus meta is just boring. All the so called "competitive" decks focus on is locking the opponent out of the game. Seems pretty Anti competitive if you ask me. There was this one duel in Vrains where Yusaku was dueling a bot whose strategy was ripping his hand away before his turn even started and it's implied that the bot could play in a way that kept him from ever getting cards. It was basically a next gen Yata lock. And it was the most boring episode ever. It was never printed thank God, but if it was you can bet every competitive player would've picked it up because competitive players will take any chance to turn this 2-4 player game into solitaire.
@@dustinvance243 "Anime characters have had viable meta decks going as far back as GX."
--can you name a single example. Bcz this was the TeleDaD era. When was that represented on the show?
"Heck, there were moments where even characters from the dm anime used their cards the same way meta players did back then."
--Yugi using Pot of Greed isn't a representation of a "Good Stuff deck, the meta deck from that period. Also, how else could you use Pot of Greed, or the other 19 DM staples that defined that era? It's not like they were part of some intricate combo. Absolutely not. Yugi's trash 60 card pile of brick deck is exactly what I am contrasting. How horrible Yugi's deck would have been IRL to the "Good Stuff" DM-era meta deck.
"Meta constantly changes so it shouldn't be used as a metric to judge any season of the anime by. Your competitive deck might be good now, but chances are it won't be years later."
-Again, this doesn't make sense. No on is asking for the GX anime to represent competitive yugioh FOREVER, or "years later". I'm just discussing how the current aired animes didnt showcase or represent the current competitve landscape. We never saw anyone running Dragon Rulers or Spellbooks in Zexal for example. Which is what you would have seen if you went to your locals during that period.
"Plus meta is just boring. All the so called "competitive" decks focus on is locking the opponent out of the game. Seems pretty Anti-competitive if you ask me."
--And this part of your response, along with the rest is irrelevent. I didn't respond for this to devolve into an argument about your disdain for competitve play.
I am purely responding to this portion of your OP:
"I think the problem a lot of people have myself included, is that the game they're giving us is very different from what they're showing us and it's to the point where it feels like a completely different game than what was advertised. Imagine you're an anime watcher and you pick up a deck from the show... Then you go to play in real life at a locals and everyone is playing a deck that you never saw before on any season of the anime."
And my point was just contrasting perspectives. And how I find your perspective interesting. I dont like the anime because it doesn't represent or showcase the most competitive elements of the game. On the other hand, as a fan of the anime, you dont like how competitive play has no resemblance to the anime. Essentially both of us are dissatisfied that the anime is so different from TCG play, only we are dissatisfied for different reasons. I find that interesting, do you not? This is my point, not to devolve into a meta VS casual conversation.
@@Jcbryant123 teledad was a 5ds era deck. psychic type wasn't even a thing back in GX. As for examples to pull from, the two most prominent archetypes i can think of were cyber dragons used by Zane, and destiny heroes which were used by Aster. Cyber Dragon was a powerful monster to summon so it was generically splashed everywhere and when it came to the deck itself, it had tons of 0tk potential with cards like powerbond, limiter removal overload fusion and chimeratech overdragon. As for destiny heroes, diamond dude turbo was a thing, malicious was strong, and they had destiny hero plasma. If you actually look there were characters using powerful cards and decks that were prominent in the meta for a time. And as shocking as this might sound even dm had some cheeky meta plays. Remember giant trunade and premature burial? Remember how they were both banned because of how they worked together? What if I told there was an episode of dm where Joey of all characters used that combo?
When I pick a deck, I always keep in mind, can I answer my opponent’s blue eyes dragons from my main deck. I really don’t like losing to blue eyes because they negated my access to the extra deck and all the monsters in my deck are smaller
Well you kinda just know when an archetype is gonna be good the cards just feel cracked. Like reading floowandereeze cards for the first time I was like…” what do you mean they can tribute a card on the opponents field ?” “Wait wait… 3 additional normal summons ???
Let's be real, konami makes certain archetypes better than others solely cause of money. They want to make really powerful archetypes and/or engines and make them really expensive so people will buy them and they will make more money. A modern example being the brave engine. And I feel it's often at the cost of making the game more unhealthy and less fun. Sworsoul tenyi which just came out to the tcg just last year many would argue has already been powercrept by top decks now such as all the different kinds of pile on decks or the decks/cards expected to come to the tcg later this year which is ridiculous. If konami is gonna keep power creeping this game in such short periods they should at least continue to give older archetypes like volcanics, amazoness, harpies, crystal beasts, cloudians, monarchs, the egyptian gods, and so forth the support to at least be decent rogue options. These archetypes are what brought a lot of people into yugioh in the first place and are very liked and memorable to old school players like myself which gave yugioh the popularity and recognition when it first became a thing in the West to be as successful and well known as it is today. Just like how dark magician, heroes, and blue eyes have gotten tons of support to make them good rogue options the same should be done for all the archetypes from the duel monsters and GX era.
When I try to find/build a deck I wanna find one that suits my play style and or if it is easy to learn and build. I don't mind playing archetypes, but not lot of them have caught my eye for reasons and things. I would like to see more archetypes get the same kind of support so they can match well with others. Especially my current favorite Monarchs. Maybe Konami can create cards that can fix the one thing I hate about that archetype like fix the bricking issues
It be awesome to see team APS do a speed duel gx tournament
Probably not a super good idea, but it would make it interesting. It would make learning the meta very difficult, too.
Imo every archetype can be good if they’re pilot is very good with they strategy, except if it’s a goat format deck
True, a lot of people don't know the potential of their decks.
I just wish some more underused archetypes got abit more support. There's alot of decks I really like, but they make it really hard to play.
Hey Paul, longtime viewer and subscriber. I have to say, one thing that does disappoint me about my most recent Yugi-tubers that I enjoy following, is Master Duel. I honestly see it pulling traditional Yu-Gi-Oh players away from the actual, physical card game. Master Duel has done something unprecedented by making it available across all platforms not excluding cellphones and tablets. This is starting to make all content Master Duel content. I already didn't care for the virtual/video form of card gaming to begin with. It just always seemed so impersonal. I prefer to see the misplays, hear the fun, see the deck building process; partially & just enjoy the overall experience of a group of friends having fun as if I was right there. I've actually pulled away from a lot of people I've subscribed to because of they have become all about Master Duel. I can appreciate that you have remained consistent and understand how to adapt in moderation. I'd love to see more theme duels. Those were very entertaining to watch. PS can we get Alex and Alek in the same duel. Please. It's like we never see them together anymore. That would be awesome to see them as captains in a two on two team duel.
Thanks for all the content. Keep it up.
Hope you use my idea.
Bruh Master Duel has created SO many more fans it’s crazy! I haven’t played competitive Yu Gi Oh since my local Toys R Us tournament in 2003, and since playing master duel I’ve been going to my local card shops and attempting to build these decks I’m using in MD (damn they are expensive) lol I get what you’re saying. I feel like Master Duel has had the opposite effect of what you think. Yugitubers are definitely focusing on MD more which I think was the basis of your complaint lol.
If anything, master duel has made me want to pick up the irl card game again, personally.
Extra deck is why scythe exist
Judging by the thumbnail i thought you would say something about me boi erebus
*Video suggestion*
If you were starting from scratch to make a deck to beat the meta, what process would you go through to achieve that?
Another meta deck.
I just started playing seriously in the last few months and the first deck i built was ice barriers and for the most parts Iv been playing against a bunch of odd eyes and pendulum and as much as I love ice barriers I just can’t compete and outside of the reprint in hidden arsenal I don’t see any support coming anytime soon sadly
I'll admit I just got stupid lucky as somebody that loves Synchro and Chinese archetypes. Yang Zings used to be super strong, and Swordsouls/Tenyi is so good right now. I guess someone at Konami and myself just have similar tastes.
Dual Avatar has very nice styling and execution in the artwork. I only have a few cards of theirs so they're under my radar.
an archetype that I see not get a lot of hype or if I'm not seeing the hype is Dinomorphia.
The archetype itself is very gimmicky and very small and very trap heavy but mixed in with other dino cards and you'll be pump out some decent results and this deck has been my new main deck to play, was it budget somewhat to not as the main cards that were pricey was the domain and solemn judgement. But this deck is a low mid tier deck and since the new support comes out in like two months it could bump up a bit but not fully
I kind a view this as an arms race. In order to win you need to beat what is causing you to lose. The problem is that the dominant strategy is to prevent the game from being played.
Monarchs my fav deck wish it had more support 😭😭
i love all archetype decks low tier to high tier
tfw I played frognarchs/sea lancer all the way til 2015, quit because I just couldn't keep up with all the new busted archetypes and support, and then they released all the new monarch support after I stopped playing
imagine they have different teams developing archetypes at konami but they're not allowed to communicate so they always come out at different strengths
Here is a question. Do you have any thoughts on acetypes that technically aren´t acetypes? First that comes to mind are Railcars/trains. And why Konami would treat some group of cards like that?
I think the deck is just called Rank 10 Trains, but indeed its not an archetype by name. Although Infinitrack is an archetype. And they do that (i think) to make new cards outside of the archetype to support them, that you may play in another more good stuff deck (my hypothesis though).
Those cards simply wasn't intended to be an archetype. The character that played trains for instance just played train-themed cards that focused on making Gustav Max...which was a very popular card.
Since they didn't give them a specific name in the first place, they just made do had their effects work with level 10 EARTH machines.
I haven’t bought any paper products, but I wouldn’t mind some content covering the culture behind YuGiOh playmats. I saw some at the store and thought they looked pretty interesting
D/D/Ds are a huge example of middle tier to me. So many ways to play the deck but 3/4ths of the variations are otk lists
My old card deck cant get support cause, i mean.... anywho thanks for this video, it made me realize its fine i dont win that often. however im still worried its because im not good enough of a deck builder and not the card pool
This is too true(draco), experiencing going from Vampires to Heroes in Master Duel.
Man I don't use the pre made pre named deck crap they put out ,I'm from the dark armed dragon era where you hunted cards that worked well together they didn't come made to order and take 3 minutes to finish one turn,it required the heart of the cards not the name of it to get what you needed and strategy ,with these already made decks you just Auto play basically you're a human auto play machine with the new named decks.
What do you think about deck made of engines, like Cherubine Turbo or B.A.S.E.D?
@@MrJuan_Vzla Including some a them is avoidable but doable ,it's about your preference what type of duelist are you in your heart.. and if you're dedicated enough to find the right cards to fit your requirements because there are thousands.
Fans: “why does konami do this?”
Paul: “get bent”
I'm a ghostrick fan bruh i don't expect anything anymore
I stopped playing yugi oh probably 13ish years ago. Picked up master duel, made a blue eyes deck because I love dragons, and it was my favorite card growing up. Anyone able to tell me how good they are and if there's cards missing from master duel that exist that aren't in the game yet?
2:48 what I'm beginning to pick up here, and probably jumping to a conclusion, is that one of the biggest issues with yugioh is linearity. Decks that aren't just powerful but that are linear, easy to pilot, have 1-card combos and starters, and a plethora of extenders. Even with all that, they still have room for many staple cards
i play neo spacians and we are getting some good support, me happy
I just wish they were a bit more consistent with the number of support cards an archtype gets.
Like why does Exosisters (which I love btw) get 3 support cards already while Rikka and Solfachord which have been around for a lot more get just one. Solfachord in particular is basically unplayable, they could really use some decent support...
As a returning player what kind of videos/channels should I follow to get back into it? I have a bls deck from several years ago that's outdated and slow.... I just don't know where to start and I don't know what most people are talking about anymore. Thanks in advance!
Cimo maybe he fun watch some of his olds videos the mts tv this channel of course Cali effect he okay team sam x
I picked up Goukis honestly because I love the designs. I didn't even stop to see if they were even good. I'm still not sure if they're good but they're fun
Goukis are good I have been on them from day 1. They were getting quite a few tops with the dark gouki variant back in the day.
Watching this video and all I can think of is man I wish they gave us more Melodious cards. I love the archetype and I really never see anyone play them. I feel like I’m the only obe
I love volcanic decks. But people that played the game just stop playing with me due to them saying that it's weak. This video will help people realize that not all decks are going to be the same and the power level will be different and so will people's play styles.
It's nice to have the odd bogie deck, the ones you try because you want a challenge. Likewise it's good to have more...brainless ones for when you can't be bothered, or don't have time. Concerning the competitive Meta, I think the game caters a bit too much to players who want ' archetypal triangle formats', rather than a varied Meta of strategies. There's always a few archetypes and strategies that are so competitive they leave a huge gulf between themselves and everything else.
Can you use card visuals in your videos? I used to play back in 2002 and watching your videos piqued my interest. Visuals would help newbies like me.
i personally enjoy the metaphys archtype the most but i dont think itll get to much more(if any) support and i find that metaphys is powerful and fun but its first turn is typically just a normal summon which is depressing.
i a lot of times play for fun, mi favotite archetipes are flufal/frigthfur/edge imp, ojama/melfi, and red eyes
I honestly believe It's not so much the cards or archtype as much as the player and their build.
I agree with you.
A lot of people play "wrong" builds or even don't know when to use their interruptions.
perso if every archetype could have hope that going pure they can pass 1 negate and go to an end board(1 in archetype boss monster/win-cond on the field) with at least 50% of their hand.
Then I would be happy.
No more die in 1 ash or combo work once every blue moon.
I just wish that all archetypes would be finished products after 2 or 3 sets and would be playable. Not at meta capacity, but playable.
I definitely think engines have a right to exist but an engine should be a complementary aspect of an already functioning deck, not carrying the entire metagame. I love the way Adventure is designed but it is just too expensive for me. If Gryphon did not have an omni negate the engine would not have seen this much meta relevance and more players could have enjoyed the actual archetype for what it brings to the table as a whole.
Day 801 of Orcust Harp Horror being unjustly banned.
X days until the unbanned of Orcust Harp Horror.
6+ years and Clausolas still cannot search a good Nekroz trap card.
Trying to get into yugioh. I’m not sure what deck I should start out with. Any ideas?
And then there are arctypes, once strong, then only an engine and now a one out of five win. Looking at you Subterror. Since link monsters came out, wich cannot be flipped face down even Guru becomes a Garnet.
Arctypes in general cannot be equally strong because arctypes are build around a certain playstyle. Some playstyles are stronger than others, some even allow FTKs (and are hit by the banlist if they can pull that of consistently).
But that is one reason I prefer Yugi over other CCGs. Different playstyles and diffent ways to win not only beatdown.
I like this because this is what i was thinking in my self about konami.. Me playing raidraptors and hoping for support but all cards and archtypes have this power i think as a deck or as an engine or just for people who love thess types or arts and have fun seeing it in the game
I also play raidraptors and tbh they feel like they are 2 cards away from meta. They can make infinite negates going first. They can otk with arc rebellion but that is hard as they can't break boards. Their other problem being handtraps
@@markogamingtv7030 exactly they are so good and i always think they need like a cool field spell 😆
I put triple dark ruler no more and triple lightning storm to balance the duels a little bit against meta decks
Any advices from you?
Nah not rly, I don't have the money for dark ruler or lighting storm so I put triple kaiju and forbidden chalice instead. You can get rid of the kaiju from their side a million ways(revolution falcon, infinity, arc reb, dark requiem, rusty..). But yeah the field spell could work. I have 3 of the new simorgh just missing their field spell tho, they are pretty good in the deck
@@markogamingtv7030 yeah i used kaijus for a good time.. Then i used the simorgh wind statue utopia engine till it gets banned 😂💔
Ogdoadics are way better than I expected the new reptiles to be, but they're still bad and I'm actually ok with that. They're cheap and playable to a certain level, and that keeps their prices low and the masses from learning them. I hope we can see more new archetypes fill the pet slot for other people the way this one has for me
Lightsworn was op and turned into a engine. Crazy that it's still usable tbh
Yea any deck that wants to mill is gonna play lightsworn. Also chaos decks
@@shinigamikira9469 I play Lightsworn Chaos, pretty fun
I played pure invoked with 30 hand traps once and it was really fun
Deck build packs feel like konami is throwing stuff to the wall to what sticks
What frustrates me more than sheer power level of decks is random unnecessary restrictions and card interactions not working that seem so obvious.
My usual example of this is time thief adjuster, time thief is a bit of a fan favourite deck (or at least people love redoer) and they gave adjuster a 1 eff per turn clause it didnt need, then they release tempwhaler which summons itself from the GY by bouncing a TT monster you control. OH? So its meant to bounce adjuster, summon itself then trigger aduster for a rank 4 every turn right? NOPE it summons simultaneously so it wont trigger adjuster... WHY? Thats such an obvious interaction and yet it doesn't work like that and its just frustrating.
I've been playing Witchcrafter in Master Duel and Scroll is one thing I do not understand why they designed it the way it is. Once per turn you can draw a card if a spellcaster destroys a card by battle... It's the only one that isn't Witchcrafter specific with its effect, and if it was it wouldn't need to be once per turn because it's not like they have a ton of attack power.