Was just going to comment, despite being cfl both the ex and sky dome would have been good candidates for this video. But exhibition stadium looked horrendous as an mlb ball park
I know exhibition stadium and Roger’s centre were cfl fields but were/are mlb parks. Would have been cool to have seen them included, especially the way the blue jays outfield looked at exhibition stadium
To be fair (and accurate) many of these stadium anomalies were because they were not built with football in mind at all. They were baseball designs, like Candlestick, or Olympic track venues, like the LA Coliseum, that had football imposed on them. The Coliseum was even worse since it also had baseball forced into it until Dodger Stadium could be built.
exactly…folks forget the 49ers didn’t come to Candlestick until 1971 11 years after it opened! and the same for Cleveland Stadium: it came about in 1936 over four years after opening
@bostonrailfan2427 Kezar Stadium in San Fran would have been a great place to see a daytime game. I never got there myself. Kinda sad now that most people will only ever see its ghostly remains in a few scenes from Dirty Harry.
Percival Molson stadium in Montreal has a running track that actually clips the corners of the end zone, meaning the end zone there isn't completely rectangular. Edmonton's CFL stadium used to be like this too until about a decade ago
There is in fact ground level standing room at Homewood Field at Johns Hopkins. It's basically a walkway that surrounds the field and the capacity from what I've seen can be over 10,000 from what are only bleacher sections on opposite sides of the field. It's not even a horseshoe like most college stadiums of its era.
The old Busch Stadium, one of the round cookie cutters, had moveable lower bowl sections that sat on gigantic roller tracks for a quick conversion between baseball and football, allowing all the seats to still be usable in both seasons. This conversion was done with both the football Cardinals and the Rams. After the Rams moved to the dome, the moveable seats were locked down, and grass was installed because the conversion was no longer needed.
Milwaukee County Stadium, where the Packers played 2-4 games up through the mid 1990s, had both benches on the same side of the field and less than six feet from the corner of the end zone to the wall.
Good job ! Interesting topic. Though they have fallen out of favor, solving the challenge of building stadiums for both football and baseball brought on interesting and creative solutions
I love this channel! I find stadiums are more interesting when the designers are forced to solve a problem. Like Fenway Park and the Green Monster. I don’t want every park to be that odd, but I find the newer stadiums to be boring.
My favorite old stadium quirk was RFK Stadium's bouncy seats! Since it was also a multi-purpose stadium, there was a section of seats that was on rollers to accommodate both Redskins and Senators games. If the Commanders get a stadium that's built on the old site again, I hope they can somehow implement that in a certain fan section.
That was before my time, and it looks strange seeing old photos of the Lions at Tiger Stadium. Unfortunately it was the site of the only NFL on-field player death. Lions player Chuck Hughes in 1971.
@@artc1980 The original Kezar Stadium was demolished in the late 1980s. A smaller facility, also named Kezar Stadium, was built on that same site. Some of the seats from Candlestick Park were installed there at the new Kezar after The ‘Stick was demolished.
@@steveheld9019 I know, my comment said Kezar still exists in its neighborhood... Candlestick Point was never the site of the old Kezar which is what the original comment said...
the cookie cutter stadiums actually were reconfigurable like Mile High and Aloha: the lower bowl was split and on rails allowing them to be moved together into a “V” or “O” depending upon the game played. the segments left were filled with temporary seating sections- only they were complete sections of seating not built onsite and taken down after each use
When the Chicago Bears played at Wrigley Field, one back corner of the north end zone was literally inches from the brick outfield wall, and the south end zone was encroached by the steps of the visitors' dugout, resulting in an irregular back line of that end zone. Given the close proximity of these potential hazards, its a wonder no player was ever maimed or killed. I don't think this would be allowed today.
Not only that, but for soccer there were many seats that could've been considered dead zones but were sold. (Doesn't matter, they had so many empty seats that once you got in you could roam.) Above the outfield wall was a lot of space where unless you were in the front row, much of the field was cut off from your view. At the other end, there was low-sloped seating where you had to look thru the goal netting (first base line) to see the field.
The SkyDome - "I'm still here". Olympic Stadium - "Je suis toujours là Tampa" - Move Tampa is what that translates to in English. The AL East would be driving distance.
You forgot exhibition stadium in Toronto. That place was a mess 😂. Great video
Was just going to comment, despite being cfl both the ex and sky dome would have been good candidates for this video. But exhibition stadium looked horrendous as an mlb ball park
@@paulwestenberger3710 as a baseball stadium yes. But it was a great football stadium
@@paulwestenberger3710 At Exhibition Stadium in 1987 Lloyd Moseby stole first base. It was breathtaking. Stieb has a good laugh.
The Mistake by the lake!
Fenway Park was home for the Boston Patriots for several years in the 1960s. Images of how they made that work are wild.
It actually worked as a football field.
@@davidlafleche1142yup. And now it hosts the Fenway Bowl bowl game
Wrigley too
@@bapplesusing 1 end zone isn't exactly working
@@jbj7599That was corrected after the last round of renovations. Northwestern will be playing their Nov homes games there this and next season
And guess what, at those funky stadiums, you could afford a ticket to watch your team play. Wow!
Agreed! A cookie cutter multi use stadium I can afford to go to beats any stadium I can’t afford to see a game at.
Do you really think ticket prices wouldn't still be what they are today if they kept those old stadiums? Come on, now.
Shea Stadium, Busch, Riverfront and a few others had their lower levels movable to parallel the lines for football.
I know exhibition stadium and Roger’s centre were cfl fields but were/are mlb parks. Would have been cool to have seen them included, especially the way the blue jays outfield looked at exhibition stadium
I was thinking that myself.
I watched a Blue Jay game from those hideous seats once.
A mile and a half from home plate.
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The "NFL in ballparks" era was the best time in NFL history. Giants at Yankee Stadium, Lions at Tiger Stadium, Bears at Wrigley, etc
Right-Center field, upper deck, must have been the best seat in football.
The Cardinals at Comiskey was pretty great too.
Steelers at Forbes Field, Redskins at Griffith Stadium, Eagles at Shibe Park
To be fair (and accurate) many of these stadium anomalies were because they were not built with football in mind at all. They were baseball designs, like Candlestick, or Olympic track venues, like the LA Coliseum, that had football imposed on them. The Coliseum was even worse since it also had baseball forced into it until Dodger Stadium could be built.
exactly…folks forget the 49ers didn’t come to Candlestick until 1971 11 years after it opened! and the same for Cleveland Stadium: it came about in 1936 over four years after opening
@bostonrailfan2427 Kezar Stadium in San Fran would have been a great place to see a daytime game. I never got there myself. Kinda sad now that most people will only ever see its ghostly remains in a few scenes from Dirty Harry.
Percival Molson stadium in Montreal has a running track that actually clips the corners of the end zone, meaning the end zone there isn't completely rectangular. Edmonton's CFL stadium used to be like this too until about a decade ago
Wasn't expecting Aloha Stadium to be mentioned here.
There is in fact ground level standing room at Homewood Field at Johns Hopkins. It's basically a walkway that surrounds the field and the capacity from what I've seen can be over 10,000 from what are only bleacher sections on opposite sides of the field. It's not even a horseshoe like most college stadiums of its era.
The old Busch Stadium, one of the round cookie cutters, had moveable lower bowl sections that sat on gigantic roller tracks for a quick conversion between baseball and football, allowing all the seats to still be usable in both seasons. This conversion was done with both the football Cardinals and the Rams. After the Rams moved to the dome, the moveable seats were locked down, and grass was installed because the conversion was no longer needed.
the others were just like that too, it’s why they could convert so fast
Wrigley Field had an interesting configuration when the Bears played there
And the NASL Chicago Sting.
I loved those mud games on baseball infields.
Milwaukee County Stadium, where the Packers played 2-4 games up through the mid 1990s, had both benches on the same side of the field and less than six feet from the corner of the end zone to the wall.
Content idea that may expand your outreach: top 10 engineering feats made by stadiums especially in terms of ones on structurally poor ground (LA)
Good job ! Interesting topic. Though they have fallen out of favor, solving the challenge of building stadiums for both football and baseball brought on interesting and creative solutions
The estimated record crowd for a football game at Soldier Field is over 120,000... with only half of those seats between the end lines.
One odd thing about that event -- it was a high school game.
In Candlestick, that corner dead zone was Section 19, and it’s where all the workers got to sit when they were done working. Good times
You skipped over Wrigley Field, which had some interesting compromises for Bears football !
I love this channel! I find stadiums are more interesting when the designers are forced to solve a problem. Like Fenway Park and the Green Monster. I don’t want every park to be that odd, but I find the newer stadiums to be boring.
My favorite old stadium quirk was RFK Stadium's bouncy seats! Since it was also a multi-purpose stadium, there was a section of seats that was on rollers to accommodate both Redskins and Senators games.
If the Commanders get a stadium that's built on the old site again, I hope they can somehow implement that in a certain fan section.
What about the baseball field with the train tracks running through it from Brewster's Millions
Mt. Davis....UGH!
Tiger Stadium was used for football by the Detroit Lions before they moved into the Silverdome. There were dead zones in that facility as well.
That was before my time, and it looks strange seeing old photos of the Lions at Tiger Stadium. Unfortunately it was the site of the only NFL on-field player death. Lions player Chuck Hughes in 1971.
The Polo Grounds in NYC had crazy baseball dimensions because they built it into a rectangular football field.
Ah you Raiders fans will never get to experience your team playing on baseball dirt early in autumn ever again..
That drab green sh*thole oozed football, unlike the corporate hedon center in the desert
Interesting.
Thank you.
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At Candlestick Park, the seats that angle off behind the other seats were what was left over from the previous stadium on that site, Kezar Stadium.
Kezar was not built on the same site as Candlestick... Kezar still exists in its neighborhood...
@@artc1980 The original Kezar Stadium was demolished in the late 1980s. A smaller facility, also named Kezar Stadium, was built on that same site. Some of the seats from Candlestick Park were installed there at the new Kezar after The ‘Stick was demolished.
@@steveheld9019 I know, my comment said Kezar still exists in its neighborhood... Candlestick Point was never the site of the old Kezar which is what the original comment said...
the cookie cutter stadiums actually were reconfigurable like Mile High and Aloha: the lower bowl was split and on rails allowing them to be moved together into a “V” or “O” depending upon the game played. the segments left were filled with temporary seating sections- only they were complete sections of seating not built onsite and taken down after each use
When the Chicago Bears played at Wrigley Field, one back corner of the north end zone was literally inches from the brick outfield wall, and the south end zone was encroached by the steps of the visitors' dugout, resulting in an irregular back line of that end zone. Given the close proximity of these potential hazards, its a wonder no player was ever maimed or killed. I don't think this would be allowed today.
The dugout endzone also had the tarp roll in the corner.
Not only that, but for soccer there were many seats that could've been considered dead zones but were sold. (Doesn't matter, they had so many empty seats that once you got in you could roam.) Above the outfield wall was a lot of space where unless you were in the front row, much of the field was cut off from your view. At the other end, there was low-sloped seating where you had to look thru the goal netting (first base line) to see the field.
Didn't the Vet have a jail? Probably needed one.
I don't miss Candlestick Park - as windy as it was, GOOD RIDDANCE 😊😊😊
Nay! I MISS THE STICK! 10,000 hard core fans for a July night game! PRICELESS!
Bring back multi purpose stadium it makes more sense financially
what about Tampa stadium's wavy seating
Yet sometimes we see football in baseball only
stadiums and they have better sightlines then multi sport stadiums.
You left off the Rubber Bowl from this video.
I don’t recall baseball ever being played there. It probably did have a track, but so did many college stadiums back then.
The SkyDome - "I'm still here". Olympic Stadium - "Je suis toujours là Tampa" - Move Tampa is what that translates to in English. The AL East would be driving distance.
Boardwalk Bowl.
Wow, Cool, Huh?
The LA Coleseum was built before football
Football existed when it was built, though it was in its infancy.
It was built as a track and field stadium.
The Dodgers played in the Coliseum for a few years as well. That configuration was crazy: 250 to left, 440 to right. And could seat over 90,000.
These are all Eggball stadiums.
Shea stadium was the original home of the NY Jets.
Nope
They played in the Polo Grounds before Shea was built.
Shea stadium had its lower seats on tracks that would move toward the outfield...there were times they would also bounce