Water Softener Full Of Water Fix
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Water softener full of water? Need a water softener fix for a brine tank that won’t drain? water softener not draining? The problem might be the Venturi valve!
If your water softener brine tank is full of water all of the time, you could have a malfunctioning venturi valve. The most common issue with water softener venturi valves is that they get dirty and need to be cleaned. If your water softener venturi valve is clean then its likely to have a worn out gasket. water softener venturi valve gaskets need to be replaced every couple of years. in the video you can see how much wear my gasket has on it. My water softener is a whirlpool WHES33 LE33.
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This is so fantastic. There's a diagram in the unit, but there's nothing better than watching someone do it. Thank you!!
I'm trying to find reasons why my Whirlpool water softener has collected water inside the tank. Your video will be the one fix I'll try first. Other videos just doesn't make sense. Glad I found you w/ your straight forward explanation that a child could understand. Thank you!!
If that doesn’t solve your water in the tank problems there’s also a plunger in the head valve unit that has a oring/spring that wears out over time causing the brine wash cycle not to function properly letting water back into the brine tank instead of washing the resin tank. Took me awhile to figure it out but once I replaced that my softener worked properly. Hope this helps someone.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing. Can you elaborate more please? I have limited knowledge on these. Couldn't figure out where the plunger in the head valve. 😢
@@theboywholovesfreedomthe part that cycles the water softener is the unit that sits on top of the tank it’s directly under the black motor that turns the valve, you’ll have to remove that and there will be a few screws you’ll have access to after you remove the motor, after you remove those screws lift it up and the plunger and spring as well as the other o rings will be inside , make sure the water is shut off to the water softener before hand , take pictures along the way so you can just reverse the process after your done,look up your model they should have the replacement parts for your unit there is also a few orings in the head as well, it’s better to just replace them all at once. Just be carefuI when torquing down the screws as to not strip the head but make sure it’s tight enough as not to leak ,hope this helps
Our problem is that salty water is getting in the house water and the water is salty everywhere in the house now. What could cause the problem?? We also have a lot of water in the brine tank. 😵💫
@@eileenjared I imagine it has to do with one of the o rings or seals in the valve head unit as that controls all the cycles of the unit, if those seals and rings are faulty that could let the brine water into the water that goes into the house. Your model should have replacement parts for the valve unit , hope this helps .
This was a great video. Really good camera work (easy to see), video editing (No parts skipped, but tedious parts time-lapsed foreward), super clear narration (and explanation, which i love!). I don't know if this is my problem - but I'm going to try it. And for anyone who had this problem, your video is very helpful and well produced. thanks!
Thanks for the kind words! Some folks have had luck just cleaning out the Venturi valve & assembly. My manual says to clean with soap (like Dawn) and a brush every six months! Who knew!?!? My gasket had visible wear and they are super affordable. Good luck with your project!
I agree!!!! SO well done!
I consider myself "the consummate" tradesman (at 67yrs, fifty in the trades), but realize, I DON'T know everything. I received an education on wster softeners, RIGHT HERE😁😁😁
@briandeis9749 thanks for taking the time to comment and thank you for watching!
I watched your video, rebuilt my Venturi, it seemed to fix it for a couple months, glad the kit I purchased on Amazon had several of the gaskets it there. Hoping that today gives me some more months of soft water without my tank filling up.
These Venturi valves collect small pieces of debris as well as wearing out the gaskets. I clean mine out spring and fall now (6months), change the gasket and run a bottle of water softener cleaner as part of my maintenance schedule.
Alright!! A very useful video for my similar Whirlpool water softener, Fred! Thank you so much! Being the cautious DYI-er, while awaiting the replacement gasket to be delivered, I performed a "dry run", just to make sure I wasn't caught by surprise by anything when the actual replacement sequence were to take place. It really adds confidence to the actual process.
One suggestion: Since mine wasn't dried out or frayed, I didn't know what defined a "worn out" gasket until I saw a side-by-side photo online. Those imprinted "channels" made from the plastic venturi is another tell-tale sign of a worn-out gasket. The whole swap took me just 10 minutes.
Outstanding! I’m glad that your problem was corrected!
Quick and to the point. I have the same issue just need to check for the gaskets.
I have the same softener that, during it's last charge cycle a few days ago, never stopped running! It's full of water and had been pulling water from my well for a good 14 hrs before I finally managed to force the broken motor to close the valve, stopping the water, and unplug it. So this video is exactly what I needed to stumble across to refurbish my system! Thanks.
Now I just need to figure out how to close my bypass valve without making the other side of it leak too much...
Griz I just shut the water off. acually I don't even do that unless its in a cycle.
Thanks my friend, I'm glad people like us got people like you to help us out.
God bless you, sir! Very helpful and well-produced video! 🙏🏼
Great video and highly appreciate you providing the amazon link to buy the gaskets as well. Very helpful.
There are a few links in the video description. Here are the gaskets that I used amzn.to/3Z1plw7 . Thanks for watching!
Just ordered a gasket. I'm figuring my problem is the same. Thanks.
Thank you very much, excellent video
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Thanks for your very useful video. However my problem is a little different from the subject video and your expertise may help me to fix it and I am confident in you.
My softener has the problem that it's not getting the water into the brine tank which is dry now and the regeneration cycle happens without taking the brine solution and obviously the water remains the same. Is the same Venturi valve problem can fix this problem?
Kindly provide your input and I wish you all the best.
Thanks a lot.
I try every thing on my water softener just found your video and order the new gasket hopefully it will work
Thanks, ordered my gasket today. Hope that's it.
Thank you. Very easy to replace.
Thank you very much! It’s worked
Great instructional video
straight to the problem and the fix good video.
Great video. Mine was a kink in the line! Thanks a million!
I have the same symptoms as you, a full brine tank, but I think I may have a different problem.
Before you replaced the gasket, did you first TEST to see if the water emptied in the brine tank when you forced recharge cycle?? If the water emptied, it's my guess that your gasket was fine. (If it is still able to empty the water on recharge, then the problem isn't the gasket) If it's like my case, the water is accumulating over days. The problem comes from a "slow/leak filling" from somewhere, NOT from water being left behind because of faulty gasket and inability to syphon water out of brine tank.
What was your fix?
@@96CapriceSS , I ended up finding a crack in the upper part of the plastic valve assembly cover that was very hard to see while in the garage cabinet. After looking closely, I can see drips of water leaking from the cracked housing.
So I ordered a replacement along with rubber gaskets. Then…while waiting for those parts, the buttons on the digital display seemed to stop working. So I think I’m just going to return the parts and buy a new water softener. It would be about $350 to fix…and that’s only if something else isn’t discovered to be faulty while doing the repair.
Solid video. Thank you.
So, any grooves are bad grooves (in the seal). Thanks, wasn't sure if the seal was manu'd that way or what.
If you watch at 2:33 you can compare the old and new gaskets. The grooves in the gasket are caused by water pressure. Thanks for checking out the video!
Great video!!!! Thank you!!!
So i have the same issue. I replaced the gasket you showed, then ran a cycle overnight. There was still water in the tank. Any idea how many cycles it would take to get rid of all sranding water? I siphoned out what i could, but still, about an inch of water left.
Thank you
My water softener is in bypass mode right now and has the same lever style bypass yours does, but it's leaking on the left side of the bypass. The other day I flipped it from service to bypass during a regeneration cycle and it sprayed a burst of water while I flipped to bypass and then it slowed to a drip and hasn't stopped dripping..
Probably a bad “o”ring on the bypass lever.
@@MrFredsDIY turns out exactly what it was! We pulled the bypass lever and replaced both o rings and VOILA back in service. 🙏🏻💧
Fantastic! I’m glad it was an easy fix!
Hello My Tapeworks water softener in the UK has around 4 or 5 inches of water in but never gets higher then that, it works fine and my water is nice and soft. Do you think I need to change my Venturi valve? My softener is 10 years old.
There should be information for cleaning the valve in the service manual or possibly on the lid similar to mine in the video. I would recommend at least a thorough cleaning. I am not sure what is “normal” for your brand but normally a softener will cycle all of the brine water.
Can u verify correct position of the float valve? My rubber washer and ceramic weight at set at near top of the placstic rod. Does this matter?
Thank you.
I hope the video helped!
Great video, thank you so much!
I’m glad it helped you!
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the info. I’m doing this today.
Those valves get pretty dirty also. Thanks for watching!
I had to go extreme with mine. I do appreciate the info you shared. I tried the hot water and wait. Then iron out product and wait. Nothing worked. I literally had to use my shop vac to completely empty the tank. Rinse it with hot water twice and free it up totally. Then it began working. That salt clog was massive. Thanks again.
I have the same water softener and my last reset and adding pellets caused it to make all the water in my house drip. Turned it off and all the faucets were back to full pressure. Any ideas why? The hard water ruins my glass shower doors. About to rent my house out and want to get new shower doors but don’t want the hard water to ruin those too.
Hello, I just installed my new Whirlpool WHES40 water softener and I would like to know if I need to water when I’m am adding the salt or just add salt. Upon installation, the manual said to add 3 gallons of water with 1 bag salt and make sure it is running good before adding more salt.
That stage is completed and now I need to add more salt, I just need to know whether I need to add more water with the salt or salt only.
Somewhere in the directions and installation manual, it should tell you. Most units inly require salt to be added for the next stage. When the system regenerates, it will add water.
Always working 👍🏼😬
Just ordered the gasket. Also, do you think the floating valve inside the tank may cause this issue?
A sticky float valve could certainly cause a similar issue. Many times the inside of the Venturi valve gets small pieces of debris stuck in the channels, that along with a worn out gasket is more often the cause of water not leaving the brine tank on recharge cycle. A toothbrush with Dawn soap and a new gasket seems to fix the issue most of the time. I picked up my gaskets on Amazon. There are links in the video description. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your detailed response. Do you have any video that shows how to fix the floating valve issue? I removed it to check it but it looked fine to me, but I might be wrong. Also for the venturi valve, do you mean to wash those small pieces with soap and brush gently? Sorry I would like to understand cleanly. Appreciate you again. Already had the gasket replaced with the new ones from Amazon. But still having issues 😢
Thank you
I have the same symptoms but cleaning the valve did do anything and the water pressure is still around 30psi. unless you tap on the spring things on the pump. anyway. I have water that appears to be coming form the rubber membrane under the readout portion of the softener. what to do now?
Im blown away that these all-in-one softeners dont have some sort of plug/drain built into the bottom of the tank to drain it if u have to
Great point! That absolutely would make total sense.
Appreciate video I’m having issue where I’m using salt everything seems fine except my water isn’t soft at all had it tested as well have it set to 80! Unit is only 6 months old. When I look in my media/resin tank it looks empty!? Is it possible to empty/put “new” resin in these style water softens where brine and resin tanks or in a single unit
MAT I did mine after 25 yrs I wouldn't think yours needs it yet.
Thanks man 🙌🏻
Hello @MrFredsDIY, I just got my gasket replaced and it filled up my tank with even more water what should I do?
So when I try to search for this with the number on the back I only get the full kit but the 3 digits on the front are different. Does that matter?
can you link to the gasket you bought please?
There is a link in the video description as wellVenturi Replacement Gaskets amzn.to/3HO5ruJ
@@MrFredsDIY AH thank you! I didn't see them under the merch links!
@@MrFredsDIY working on this today. When I took the valve apart I noticed we didn’t have the little mini circular piece that you have at the very bottom center. Could that be an issue?
@@slashedbeautythere should be a diagram of all of the parts you are supposed to have in your manual or even on the lid of your unit. Make sure that you put it back together according to the diagram. If you are missing parts, it will probably be an issue. In the video you will notice that my entire valve assembly had a part number and is offered as a replacement part. It is likely that you can purchase an entirely new valve if necessary. Good luck with your project!
Fred - My issue is with the Brine tubing being brittle and breaking. I've done some patch work a handful of times, but it really ust needs to be replaced. Do you know if the Brine Tubing (from the venturi to the brine valve assembly) alone can be replaced? I have found the part on Sears Parts Direct so I'm guessing so, but I can't find an videos of the tubing being replaced. Also, I'm assuming that the ferrule nut cannot be reused. Do you know whether or not this is the case? Any tips you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I’ll bet you the feral and the tubing are available at a legit plumbing supply store. It is possible if you have an old-school hardware or an Ace Hardware you could speak to someone and show them the parts you have, and they can match them up. It certainly worth a try! Good luck with your project
I did this repair about 13 month back and again the water is filling back up again. I took the Venturi back apart and inspected the gasket. What is it that goes bad with the gasket? All I see is the imprint of the corresponding component, but nothing ripped or deformed. Is it just the compression on the gasket material that is the problem?
There is pretty high-pressure that goes through this valve and the water creates a ware pattern on the gasket. Also, the opening through the channels is pretty small which along with the shape, creates the draw effect to pull the water out of the tank. Every time I change this gasket, I do notice small debris that I clean with Dawn dish soap and a brush. I think it’s a combination of these factors that creates this maintenance issue.
Thanks for the timely response!@@MrFredsDIY
My rotor valve disc won’t turn. Any ideas?
Unfortunately, it is likely that the motor might be seized. You could go on Facebook marketplace, offer up or even craigslist to look for a model similar to yours for parts. Odds are you could find one pretty cheap. I recently did that with a swamp cooler it worked out great.
@@MrFredsDIY I changed the little black motor on top. Along with the rotor disc gear thing. The rotor valve itself turns nicely up until I get all eight bolts tightened up fully.
Will the brine tank drain itself after it's fixed or do I need siphon it out?
After I fixed the Venturi valve I ran a cycle. The system sensed that the brine tank was full and began a flush which emptied the tank. Thanks Watching!
@@MrFredsDIY thanks!!
My water softener is only 2 months old. I have the same problem with water settling in the salt tank. How often do these gaskets need replacing?
Possibly it is not the gasket. These valve assemblies can get small debris trapped inside. There should be instructions for cleaning and a recommended cleaning interval in manual. It may vary if your water is really hard but I would think changing the gasket annually should be sufficient. Thanks for watching!
My valve’s venturi assembly is caked with iron dust. The reason I got the softener was to clean the resin filter of the iron that it removes from my well water. But i guess the dirty water is what gets pushed through to the assembly.
My issue is the opposite. In the past, I'd have to add about a bag of salt every 2 weeks or so. However, I last added salt about 2 months ago and notice it is at the same level. What could be causing this and how do I remedy the issue?
The first thing I would check is the bypass valve attached to the manifold to be sure the plunger has not been pushed. I would force a recharge cycle, and witness what happens. Listen to hear if the motorized control valve is operating. Remove the lid from the float valve assembly tube and look for water filling the brine tank through that float valve. If no water is entering the brine tank then that is the problem and now you need to find the cause cause.
I would manipulate the float valve during the recharge cycle to see if the valve is “stuck”. This valve is similar to the float valve inside the tank of your toilet. If water is not filling the tank from the float valve, that means it’s not receiving water or it could have debris in the float valve or Venturi valve.
There should be instructions on the lid, online or in your owners manual for cleaning the Venturi valve and changing the gasket. I use dawn dish soap and small brushes or an old toothbrush.
If you are not cleaning the Venturi valve once a year I am fairly certain it has debris inside and your gasket is probably worn out.
Good luck!
This is a good video except I can't get that top off. It would be helpful to show that part to start with
Imagine the people that had the water softeners installed in the closet for the closet. I am currently dealing with my water softener, leaking out all over my garage, flooding it with particles of suit and sand everywhere.
So you're saying it can drain itself? I don't have to take a vacuum to suck the water and salt out?
After I corrected the problem with the Venturi valve I ran a recharge cycle and it drained at the end. The float in the float assembly tube had the valve closed because the tank was full so that part of the charge cycle (the filling of water) didn’t occur. Once the Venturi valve started working properly my unit was able to use the brine water to recharge and flush the water from the tank.
Followed your instructions, now the softner is blinking orange and saying err
How can you tell the gasket worn out?
If it’s over a year old and shows a pattern on it like mine chances are it needs replaced. These gaskets are a consumable product like brake pads and need to beverage. Thanks for watching!
Thank u so much for the the fast reply. I just order a new gasket.
Don’t some water softeners have the water always in it until it draws it in? I think mine does.
Great question! There are two main types of water softeners, post-fill & pre-fill. Post-fill systems have visible water in the brine tank most of the time because they “soak” the salt for the regeneration cycle.
Pre-fill systems are the most common and fill the brine tank prior to regeneration. Regeneration uses the brine water from the tank until the next scheduled regeneration. With this type of system water should not be visible unless the tank is empty or during a fill cycle.
I need help please. I have a whirlpool.... w softener . The low salt or recharge light is continually blinking ... Its a little low on salt but it has been lower many times b4 .
My elec was out last week ...that may have something to do with it . Anyways it want respond when I push any button . I can't even set my time . Can you please help?
Perhaps you could try a “factory reset” to see if that solves the problem. This website has some simple instructions whirlpoolwatersolutions.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4418215950359-How-to-Perform-a-Factory-Reset
Clean the contacts on the push buttons.
After you bypass it, you better depressurize the tank or you’ll get a big surprise
What kind of surprise?
@@karlwilliams1271 you have system under pressure, anywhere from 40 to 60 psi. Unless you want it to blow off in your face, I’d relieve the pressure
It did not work.
KI HAVE A SORT OF METALIC TASTE IN MY MOUTH AND WHEN I lick my. Lips they have a salty taste to them,,,If I don,t drink my soft water and drink bottled water ,the taste is not there,please can you let me know if you think lt,s the water softner??? Thank you
Whyyy do people buy sooo many stupid single water bottles and throw them away…grrrrr- my son drives me crazy-throws a million single water bottles away everyday……you could use and refill one water bottle howww many times do you think? And I’m not even one of those ‘save the earth’ people