To be fair, many people tried the more reasonable approach. They got met with responses like the comment above. The causes they, in a round about way, stand for have been mocked for decades. It's funny how the outrage and disgust for them coincides with the point they stop being nice. The new Doctor is utter dogshit though.
@DejaVoodooDoll Heads up everyone our reddit thread has been brigaded by alt right TROLLZ! Their opinions and thoughts aren't valid because they're just trolls. Tag and ignore, boys!
I've got my 2019 Doctor Who calender. There's a picture of a Doctor per month. Happily. There's only 12 months in a year. Guess which Doctor got left off?
I got a UK Doctor Who calendar and it does have the John Hurt Doctor in it. I had to laugh that they chose to include him over Whittaker. I think there is a separate calender JUST for season 11.
Nobody has issues with who the companions are, cast your minds back to season 1 with Ecclestone, we had Rose (white female), Micky (non white) and Captain Jack (bi/gay), nobody cared becasue their characters made them who they were not arbitrary characteristics
It's because those characters were actually written well and had growth. The reason Mickey Smith is a great character is because he goes from a wimpy coward to a well-adjusted companion. Jack Harkness learns a kind of humility with his immortality, and Martha Jones learns to become self-sufficient and that she can do anything. Even The Ponds and River have character growth, but the new series only cares about the Doctor being a woman and not THE DOCTOR happening to regenerate into a female form, and that makes all the difference. No growth, no character development, just pointless plotlines and dry companions. Don't expect intruiging plot threads like Bad Wolf or The Pandorica Device anymore. I for one am just gonna watch the old series and try not to cry. Maybe someday someone will free it from the depths of hell to live again, but for now all we can do is morn what we lost
@@skydragonslayer9820 She could have been so much better, but in her tenure in the series, they had her pining after the Doctor like they didnt know what to do with companions after Rose left.... Martha became kick ass after she got out of Roses shadow, stopped bein a companion and joined Unit. Personally, Im glad that the last lot of companions havent been romantic foil for the Doctor. Finally we can just focus on adventures in time and space, and not romantic dramas
@@DecoyOfHam but no matter if you loved or hated the character, you believe in the character that it was fleshed-out. People are so busy checking boxes to show how politically awesome they are that they're not being constructive, with things like plot and story development and character development.
Yeah I get YA there but has anyone else noticed every single on of the doctors companions end up with a black husband I have no issue with it was just a little detail I noticed well Up to Peter capaldies second companion
@@johncressmanci Well it has been canceled before and most likely will be again. I am hoping it will be soon so the people who remember the good things about it will reboot it in 2 or 3 decades from now
@@thommathy5681 It's a kid's show. It's always been a kid's show. People now pretending like it's anything more than it's ever been are only fooling themselves.
@@Cbricklyne watched it years ago (70's), it was an "adult" (not profane) show, and enjoyable enough for me to plunk down money to buy some vids. Haven't watched in years; so it may have devolved as you, and others are saying here! I just came on here to confirm my suspicions that it has turned to into crap, like music and comedy today have for example too!
@@thommathy5681 I don't know or care if it's a kid's show, I've never really watched it before. I always saw it like The Simpsons, like it appeals to everyone. My only point is that one minute they're laughing at people and use the "kids show!" "argument" then when it suits them they celebrate it being a success? So is it weird to be emotionally attached to a "kids show" or not? They need to make up their minds because right now it looks like they labelled it a kids show and they're drinking champagne because it got good ratings. They're inconsistent. The only consistent aspect to these nutjobs is that they're nutjobs.
Actually Doctor Who was always made by the BBC drama department. It was classed as family entertainment not kids tv. Most of the snowflake generation don’t know this.
48 year-old female here, watched Who since late 1974. My first story was the Tom Baker debut 'Robot'. Doctor Who is not a 'children's show' per se. It is and was a family show, with fans of all ages. Back in the day it was a show the whole family watched together at teatime/early Saturday evening, not part of children's programming which was from 4-5.30pm on weekdays and was aimed squarely at children watching alone. Who may have been conceved for kids out the gate but it quickly became popular with adults and was writen with all ages in mind as a consequence. It was a show you grew up with and enjoyed watching again as an adult, with an adult's perspective. To dismiss complaints with 'it's not for you anyway' is to dismiss most of its most ardent fanbase.
I increasingly lost interest during Smith's run, struggled mightily through Capaldi's tenure, and completely gave up soon after the new Doctor appeared... Not because the new Doctor is a woman, and not because her companions are people of color, but because the show SUCKS. And that's the fact that people pushing this female empowerment stuff refuse to acknowledge.
I fully agree with you, and this is something that is being lost by both camps. The new Doctor Who was already average from the start, IMO. The quality of the acting and writing just got worse and worse as time passed by, which led us to here. To me, the problem isn't "the propaganda pushed by the BBC" or "the PC culture ruining a show." Lots of shows also push political or social agendas (i.e. StarTrek), but no one cares because the stories are compelling enough to make you think and enjoy the show. This Doctor Who drama is just a case of mediocre writing and acting become so bad that the show became unwatchable.
i mean, there are plenty of episodes during and before Smith's doctor that were about female empowerment so :/ but yeah i do agree that the show has gone downhill since the 11th doctor im just mad that people are blaming the fact that the doctor is now a woman, instead of the writers being awful
I joined during Smith's run and relatively enjoyed it. Capaldi's run was okay up until his last season. I haven't watched the new one because of what I heard and work. I was really excited for it because of Jodi's works in Broadchurch, I absolutely loved her in that. Then I heard of how the show was being handled and decided to skip on it like I did with the new Star Wars.
Yeah I can agree with that. I stopped watching during Capaldi's run because I saw a decline in quality by then; I just didn't like it as much, and found it rather boring. Meanwhile the seasons with Tennant and Smith had the best episodes imo and those are the ones that kept me hooked to the show.
Who needs Daleks when we have some great villains such as: Racist time traveler, whiny janitor, spiders/american politician, and of course my personal favorite; moths.
"You are a grown man complaining about a children's television show." But that would mean the writer is a grown man/woman defending a children's television show. Isn't that just as silly as the initial example? Nice unintentional self burn for that writer.
not just defending but watching, reviewing, writing about and defending a children's TV show for an adult readership....... rich in irony indeed ! despite most of the actual audience being adult and buying the merchandise ... Turns out resistance is not futile after all :)
If the show's target audience is for children... why was it on Saturday night at 9 pm for most of its run... a time when most children aren't watching TV, which is why there's little other children's TV on at that time? They don't seem to be aware that we can research this stuff rather easily.
"A show does not get cancelled just because you shout about how much you hate it on social media." Perhaps not, but people lose their livelihoods on Patreon, have their careers and reputation irreversibly damaged and find themselves being attacked by libelous hit-pieces from mainstream journalistic outlets just for their social media presence lmao
@@slimjimpui i'm not a DW fan. never was, likely never will be BUT, I just compared the audience rattings of this show s11 vs 10,9,8, and 7 and holy hell fans are pissed off.they plummeted from the low 80s to 28% jesus.
Same here, not invested in Dr Who at all but I sympathize with and relate to the fans as my own childhood favourites (Ghostbusters and Star Wars) have been chewed up and spat out by ideologues in exactly the same way. My investment is towards the fanbase airing their grievances
The ratings are OK, but they are falling. The first episode was watched by so many people, because "first female Doctor", but when the gimmick was done, the ratings start to fall. A show, any show, have to keep the interest of the audience. This incarmation? Not so much.
@@Elkott Actual ratings do mean A LOT. It is how networks price their ads playing on the shows. However Rotten Tomatoes and the like are not ratings by any stretch of the imagination.
@@ronpetersen2317 except you forget the bbc in the UK doesnt have adds it isn't allowed as its the public broadcaster. So when making decisions about this stuff ends up being a little different then most networks. The money from the DW merch is more important for them to consider as its really the main income stream for the show due to having no adds
It just broke the 30% mark. It is now sitting on 29%. Even all of the fake five star reviews could not save this. And imagine how low the score would be if they counted all of those half star reviews.
@@nickmoore5105 - Lets put it this way, a lot of the 5 star reviews are by empty accounts that have only ever reviewed one thing and that is a five star review, with no text, of Doctor Who. This is the classic sign of sock puppets (fake accounts). Meanwhile, why do a fake half star review when they don't count towards the final total?
Martha Jones was a person of color AND a woman and she was badass! So that throws that argument out the window. The writing is lackluster, the acting is mediocre, and I don't care for any of the characters! It's just fitting that there's no Christmas Special this season as the whole thing was just disappointing, and no a New Years Special just isn't the same!
Yeah, the idea of the TARDIS crew meeting Rosa Parks could have lead to a good script and an awesome episode. Instead what we got was a half-assed script and a lackluster episode. The BBC needs to hire better writers, replace the producer and replace the directors. This has NOTHING (zero, squat, ziltch) to do with gender or skin color, the show just needs to be made by people who are up to the standard of quality that us Whovians came to expect from the Russell T Davies era. Thirteen's story arc (such as it is) is so uninteresting that it might as well not be there. Every Doctor Who show since the Seventh Doctor (except the Eighth Doctor who only had one episode) has had an engaging & ongoing story arc, even in Old-Who: The Third Doctor's long quest to end the restrictions placed upon him by the Time Lords, the Fourth Doctor's "Key To Time" and "E-Space" arcs, the Fifth Doctor's "Black Guardian" arc, Sixth Doctor's "Trial Of A TIme Lord" arc, and the Seventh Doctor's "Ace" arc and the (sadly unfinished) "Cartwell Masterplan" arc. Then with New-Who we got propper season-long (and even Doctor-long!) arcs: The Ninth Doctor and the Tenth Doctor brought us the long-running "Rose Romance" and "Bad-Wolf" arcs (and spun off Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures, which had their own arcs), and then the Tenth Doctor era continued it's excellent run with the whole Martha Jones character arc and the Harold Saxon/Return Of The Master/Sound Of Drums arc, and then the Doctor-Donna character arc, then finishing up Ten's run by wrapping up the Rose Romance arc via the Metacrisis Doctor story device. Brilliant writing! And then we got 11's story arcs with the whole crack-in-the-universe and River Song arcs. And then the level of quality dropped off after The Impossible Girl arc ended and we got 12's boring "am-I-a-good-man" story arc that made me want to stop watching (WTF happened there BBC?) The level of writing we saw with Doctors 9 and 10 is simply not there with the Thirteenth Doctor. Perhaps 13 really is an unlucky number? Nah, it's just bad writing. BBC, you need to fire the writers, fire the producers, fire the directors. You tried to be all SJW and that fell flat on it's face with failure and shame, now pick yourself up and do better.
I checked the score on Rotten Tomatoes out of curiosity. 21% is pretty damning as 'bots' on either side would presumably balance each other out. Modern businesses have a bizarre habit of thinking they're above their customers nowadays and that we'll like what we're given and be grateful for it. Time to show them how wrong they are.
Sorry but everyone knows why the critic rating was so high. Being the first female Dr. anyone who leaves a bad review would be burned at the stake and called a sexist Nazi. Leaves a very healthy atmosphere to have your own opinion...
Anything with a SJW message is immediately shot up to high 90% or close to 100% regardless of whether it's a good movie/show or not. It's gotten to the point where you can pretty much guarantee that the show is going to either be complete SJW garbage or has the superficial message plastered all over it. I really don't understand why they assume trying this crap over and over on different franchises would illicit different results. It's almost as if they're systematically trying to sabotage all science fiction.
It's now at 29%. I was one of the negatives, Whittaker swore that I'd be one of the legion of 'new girl fans' who would replace the cis hetero straight white males (though Jodie, it's not only Caucasian males who used to love DW.)
They did the same thing with the Torchwood spinoff, when it moved to Showtime it went full on soft porn between guys. I would have to research it but wouldn't be surprised there are the same people behind this season. I wouldn't have minded them going with female doctor, that would have been cool, but its all he other stuff thrown in my face that turns me off.
Hardly, the show has been pretty decent this season. My favourite Doctor is Tom Baker and I've always been a fan of the show and I only have minor complaints about the new season. What appears to be happening is the bed-wetters who can't get over the fact The Doctor is now a woman are spamming bad reviews any chance they get without having watched a minute of it. The creators of the show back in the 1970s avoided making the Doctor a woman for this very reason, they knew the public would throw a hissy fit. Thanks for killing creativity you small-minded people!
@Alastor 52 - Not female at all, just a regular bloke who doesn't throw a fit over a bloody TV show. Besides, anyone who thinks the Doctor becoming a woman is such a mind-fuck clearly doesn't read a lot of science fiction.
@@MrNovember41 this isn't creativity this is feminism taking something that was already creative and turning it into a social political movement. The only small minded people here are those who go about shaming others for not buying this BS. P.S. thank you for proving my point ;) ROTFLMMFAO
@@BriqWall - The fact is you are raging against a perceived political enemy of yours, I literally couldn't give a fuck about politics and am only wanting to highlight the fact people are putting that ahead of any real criticism of the show. I have watched this season and can actually make an educated comment on the matter. Can you say the same, or will you just billow more bollocks about femenists or any other political diatribe you borrowed from UA-cam?
That idiot saying people didn't like the new Doctor Who because she had companions that were PoC - didn't they see the Tenth Doctor series with Martha Jones? I thought she was a great companion!
I dated a gal that looked like Martha Jones. Which was cool. What wasn't cool is how she was crazy and tried to photoshop childhood pictures of me with her in it.
Wuz314159 I suppose that's because so many fans loved Rose. Personally I preferred Martha, but to each their own. Donna was my absolute favourite though.
Just checked it is 29% now!! Worst ever series. I have been watching it since the 2nd doctor and I will not be returning to it any time soon!! It is a crying shame in the way it has been treated from hero to zero in 5 years!! I hope the BBC feels good about itself after ingratiating itself with its pontificating bullshit about how great the show is now!! Keep it coming nerdrotic, maybe the Beeb will listen to you after all the b/s has been mucked out from their ears!!......Not!!!!
I just wish that they'd given Capaldi another season, he had so much potential that the writers just squandered. His rage and raw emotion in some scenes were so fascinating. Like when he threatened Aria stark(I forgot the characters name) it was soooooo badass in my opinion. A damn shame
doctor who writers have been pretty bad since Capaldi became the doctor, there were only some good episodes the rest were just boring or had more special effects than a plot
@@FantasmaNaranja that i agree with but capaldi could have been a good doctor but the scripts were at best terrible except a few that were good i do hope t davies coming back will revive but i say hope
I thought the same thing about Barbara Wright when everyone started blabbing about the Whittaker being the first strong female role model. Barbara was the first companion and was stronger than the doctor and her fellow companions. It's an insult to characters like that and actresses like Jacqueline Hill to just forget everything they did.
@dr103 I don't think it's was she didn't want to, wasn't it she started filming Law and Order UK(with Bradley Walsh) and couldn't physically get the time to return?
"Just not for white males anymore" I call bs on that the biggest fans in my house are my wife and daughter. I can also say for a fact that they are skipping this Doctor.
@@FantasmaNaranja Which is truly sad since I liked Capaldi, the show has just been pretty shit for a while. I was excited as hell for a new showrunner as I kinda blamed Moffat since the decline was under his run (compared to Davies). But Chibnall's run has been a combo of OK "monster of the week" episodes and no bigger arcs, returning characters, etc, and not much else, so like a pretty OK episode under all of the above. Except it also takes time to verbally and audibly pat itself on the back about how progressive it is rather than just making the characters and stories great. So... it's not as awful as some of the really dumb shit (e.g., the golden arrow) recently a lot of times but there's still nothing spectacular. I'd still rewatch random Tennant episodes in spite of the leaps in production quality since then.
When a reviewer who starts off by saying they are not big fans of the show in the first paragraph, Then they reveal their lack of knowledge and lack of interest. Quite openly stating they didn't watch it much, have only watched a couple of episodes now and.. Then praises it for it's political stance and gives it 9.5 out of 10 - you KNOW you are reading a political statement NOT a review of a TV show. It could not in any logical or meaningful way be anything OTHER than a pure gender political statement They actually tell you as much in the review. How are these professional reviewers not clearly identified as sexist bigots themselves? They fulfil all the criteria to the letter. Their identity politics based views are themselves the dictionary definition of bigoted and sexist.
They are the delusional types who effectively go "it doesn't count when I do it" pretty much, and then not even realizing that's effectively what they are doing either, so even if you try to call them out on it they just act like you're the delusional one making stuff up somehow. Brings an old saying to mind, about how the hardest ones to convince are the ones who are fooling themselves...
@Shawn Burke Didn't the TV movie make the 8th Doctor half human and allow him to resurrect dead companions with alarm clocks? R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 1989
@@MichaelM28 "and allow him to resurrect dead companions with alarm clocks?" That pretty much should be possible, given the travelling through the universe part and all that. Casually ressurect beings to interrogate them, have companions die every 3 episodes or several times in a single episode being completely usual.
Loved Doctor Who. But once they started TRYING to be woke, I hate it... The funny thing is, this show was already pretty "Progressive". Black companions, female, gay but THEY DIDN'T SHOVE IT IN YOUR FACE!!!! It was just part of the story!!!! Its sick what they have done now...
@Severin Dahl Maybe because we haven't really come all that far since? I don't care for shitty writing that's overtly cruel or blandly pushing one idea(cliche forms of "progressive" stuff that's more insulting than it is helpful), but sometimes I sit back and watch the anger surrounding stuff like an all-girl showing of Wonder Woman. The reactions and utter hatred. Something is done that's deemed "progressive" and people dig in their heels, grunt, and throw up their hands yelling, "Urgh, enough is enough!" It feels like it's gotten quite petty and tit-for-tat. Because one person is bringing up something, some counterpoint has to be brought up. Everyone's enjoying playing the victim one way or another. Outrage, outrage, outrage. It's really breaking down any motion. Some people trying to be progressive getting lambasted for a misstep or not being progressive enough. Some people trying to be slightly progressive and getting ripped to shreds for giving in to some agenda. It's all bullshit. We're not giving people enough credit for trying, and we're being complete dillholes to anything resembling change.
I am female. I never wanted a female Doctor... I don't want to BE the Doctor, I wanted to travel WITH the Doctor. But I was also uncomfortable with Missy regenerating into a woman. I want to be able to recognize the character... The Doctor is supposed to stay, at HIS CORE, the same person. I just don't think it works. Men and women are very different. If they wanted a female Time Lady, bring back Romana or someone new (not River). But honestly... Why would you ruin a beloved character for your stupid politics. I loved Nine and Ten. But the thing is... Nine and Ten had some of the silliest episodes... Didn't matter: I was deeply invested in their stories. I usually loved 11 (when he didn't cross the line for a joke) because despite how puppyish Matt Smith was, he could turn on a dime... I even grew to like 12 (when he wasn't a total jerk) because he was able to bring out the Doctor's interior world to the surface. I like each one for something different... but I could always see The Doctor because enough remained. I felt the show did 4 things to shoot itself in the foot: 1. the 50th anniversary was half good and half a slap in the face to many fans (I was upset about Rose not really showing up to interact with Tennant, McGann and Eccleston being pushed aside for John Hurt's War Doctor, Clara being the "savior" of the day, and Gallifrey's destruction being undone) 2. under-develop annoying companions and then pretend they're perfect, 3. overgrow plots to a massive scale, and 4. Turn time lords into females in an attempt to "get woke" and pander to SJW stories.
Each revival Doctor made sure to highlight that version's fatal flaw. 9 was angry and dealing with ptsd. 10 hid his pain under a goofy attitude. 11 was arrogant and absent minded. 12 was bogged down by dumb shit lack face blindness and a sudden lack of empathy, but eventually they settled on him just being an asshole. These flaws were all demonstrated, commented upon, and made into plot points. One of 10 sayings was "I'm always alright." 11's arrogance bit him in the ass at least once a season. An episode hardly went by without the Doctor being a prick and having someone comment on it. What is 13's flaw? Hell, what is 13's character? She's the Doctor, but all the moments that would usually be dedicated to telling us more about what make the Doctor unique instead went towards telling us she's a woman. Which is all that makes her unique. Traumatized Veteran, Sad Clown, Absentminded Professor, Grumpy Scot, Woman. Having a woman Doctor could have worked. But they forgot to give her a character.
At least it makes sense why The Master became Missy since he steals bodies rather than regenerating. And Missy is extremely entertaining. I would have loved it if they'd have given Missy her own show as a female Doctor type instead of making The Doctor into a fucking trans-sexual, and it even looked like they were going in that direction at the end of the Capaldi season but they fucked that all up.
ohifonlyx33 I don’t agree with the fact that they are all the same person but build on each other and had a connect but unique fatal flaw. His essence is the fact he has no essence but builds about himself and in that way represents the greatest ideal of freedom.
Un-destroying Gallifrey pithed most of the Doctor's pathos. I agree about the overblown plots. Look at the one fans like most: Blink. And I think that if you did a study of which Doctor Who episodes people like most, you'd find that the SJW's love the big "save all of the potential multiverse" episodes while the rest of the world prefers stories where individual characters matter. I also hated the way the show totally shafted Rory's dad. They should have turned him into a companion. He was a more interesting character than most. As was Donna's grandfather.
Sorry but when the hell was Doctor Who ever just for white males? This show has always diverse but this season was absolutely horrific, the writing OMG!!! the writing has been the reason this season has been the worst season ever.
Scooby McDooby I’m not disagreeing but it was never made solely for white males I started watching in 1989 I was 7 and always remember diverse characters white, black, multiple ethnicity and genders. So I’m not sure why Jodi has stated the show is not just for white males, my argument is I’ve never seen it just for white males at all. I like Jodi but I think the writing has been horrific and that’s stopped her from truly testing herself in the role of the doctor.
When SJWs talk about improving or correcting something you can always be sure they know absolutely nothing about the source material. They come in with blind assumptions made in the most basic of observations. They've never watched any Who, they just see men in the role on the series covers and that's as far as they go. They also know when something has a primarily male audience then it must be removed. Men can't have things that are suited to them.
Do this just bullshit that people were trying to push an agenda say. I'm black and a matter of fact I've been black my whole life. I've never once needed someone in a show to be black or man to identify with the fucking show. Shit my favorite fucking cartoon character was a panther a blue goddamn Panther. My second favorite character was a female squirrel and Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. I I have never once needed to see someone like me in a show to identify with the show. I do believe but having representation does matter. Cuz I also remember back in the day when you turn on TV and the only time you saw black faces when you watch Cops. So I do have a feeling that thing positive role models that look like you does matter. But that has more to do with media negatively stereotyping people thin making the lead character of an established franchise a black man or a woman.
tenth planet the final story of the first doctor had the first black astronught on it, and earlier that same doctor a female school teacher took down a lovecraftian horror. They praise this series for being so "diverse" and "empowering" while it condicends and insults its audiance while claming what came before was rasist and sexist. Shows they didnt even watch dr who and know nothing about it.
Anyone remember the show Community? Remember Abed saying how there was a female Inspector Space-Time and nobody liked her? Pepperidge Farm Remembers....
DEADSCHOOLED ya I tried to do it too,a few days ago it wouldn’t allow me to rate it as it didn’t show in search results I don’t have a rotten tomatoes account but I wanted to create one just to punch this bs
The BBC have handled this gender change in the most cack-handed way imaginable. Instead of playing it down and making the character of the Doctor consistent despite a gender change they have made it all about identity politics. The outfit she wears, the glass ceiling trailer, the obvious and patronising scripts, the 'villians'. And in promo material they have gone all out to score points with the feminist lobby; a book cover featuring the 12th Doctor wearing a 'future is female' sweater, Jodies inane interviews where she creates inaccurate assumptions about classic Who's limited appeal to girls and to its celebration of the male gaze, the fact that the female production force behind series 11 is presented as an advancement rather than a snub to meritocracy, it goes on and on. And there's now a book 'The Women Who Lived - a celebration of only the females of Doctor Who - with illustrations by only female artists. (Were these artists informed that their names would be used for an elitist political agenda?) Why are the BBC so cucked to the bullying feminist lobbyists? They aren't sane. You don't take orders from lunatics. This is the sort of thing the real Doctor would be ridiculing. Chibnall, Whittaker and the BBC have totally betrayed the ethos of Doctor Who, and the easily hoodwinked are going on about 'change and progress'. Theses paid critics are fools who clearly know nothing about what the character of the Doctor always fights against. If they think that 'it's about time' we can be sure they haven't a clue who Verity Lambert, Delia Derbyshire or Paddy Russell were.
This is the issue, missed by most. Dr. Who is a time lord, so in a sense gender is NOT the issue. The problem is all the PC baggage it comes with this. I was willing to give this female Dr. Who a go, but alas, it's shit.
I challenge anyone who enjoys Jodie Whittaker's portrayal of the doctor to watch series 1-5, or just any one of those series, and then tell yourself she matches up in any way.
@@Mcdude02 because while capaldi is an amazing Doctor and an amazing actor who takes the role to his heart, his series was the beginning of the sjw infestation. His stories aren't nearly as bad but they aren't that great either.It's not his fault. If he had been given the same storylines the first three doctors had he might have been the greatest out of all of them. It's actually an additional crime done to him.
Yeah, yeah, Whittaker is a mediocre actor at best with not nearly the charisma, presence, wisdom, stature, wit, or generosity to play a Time Lord alien 1000s of years old with great experience and reflection. Sure, fine, whatever. And the writing in the show is self-contradictory, characters acting one way in one episode and another way in another, themes introduced only to be revised or peter out or vanish entirely as the season waned along, the Doctor presented as a bumbling fool who needlessly puts her companions ("fam") in harm's way or is utterly irrelevant during the entire episode and ultimately by series end commits blunders that result in the death of entire planets of life and people. Right, OK, I'll grant you that too. And also that the representations of actual historical events were flagrantly erroneous and ignorant, taking liberties well beyond artistic license by presuming in sheer cognitive dissonance to be more accurate than the truth. Or the browbeating, insultingly patronizing political pandering and lecturing that thrust and punctuated its way jarringly into episode after episode, acting as if the audience not only is a bunch of clueless dweebs who would call Nazis humanitarians if they weren't constantly struck with a ruler on the back of the head, but also as if social equality and opposition to racism and cruelty and discrimination weren't ALREADY A CULTURAL NORM IN THE MAJORITY OF THE NATIONS IN WHICH THE SHOW AIRED. Sheesh! Enough already! I'll grant it all!!! But Doctor Who is a girl now! Isn't that neat!!!!? Isn't that enough to ignore everything else!!!??? I'll buy that for a dollar!
What baffles me, as well as you, is how they connect "Great Franchise - Lots and lots of Fans" with "We need to change everything about it". I don't know, maybe they all have terminal brain cancer or something, because for any logical person this doesn't compute.
It is baffling but I think the clue to their thinking is 'lots and lots of fans'. It's become a vehicle to them to reach a lot of people and they rely on fans inability to let go of something that was once good and meant something to us. If it is not this deliberate then that really is baffling.
Can't agree with those negative reviews more. The hate for White Males the writers, cast, and the BBC are spouting is disgusting, palpable, and pure racist. Every time they open their mouths, write articles, and scream and virtue signal it's like vomit. The tomato-meter's going down because the SJW's had their fun, ruined the show and moved on. They don't care, they were never loyal fans. And yes, grown men AND Women will complain. Doctor Who is hardly a child's show when they want to constantly focus on someone's sexual preference, and remember all the little sexual innuendoes peppered throughout the years? But the SJW's love to throw that remark back at people. If that's all it is, a "kid's show," then why are they so smug and arrogant and desperate to change it? Leave it alone. Probably because they're already hard at work indoctrinating children anyway and DW is a huge way in for them. And let me see if I got this right, they're allowed to destroy a beloved fandom with their weak, agenda-driven stories, but when fans like the Nerdrotic Channel express discontent, they are shamed and silenced? This censorship is happening too much and far too often now. They can all take a hike! And you mentioned ASTRID! I loved her! (sniffles.)
@@Lee_B77 To be honest I'm not a huge fan of those, only the originals, but I've seen a lot, and enough to know exactly what you're talking about and how they've changed. This Star Trek Discovery is acting like it's the first time ever they had a woman and a black Captain. They never check back in history, because they're too busy trying to rewrite it. hello, Janeway? Sisko! Both On 2 superior show where nothing felt forced. And then they'll have young people believe that there were never any positive, strong female lead roles in Sci Fi. Give me a break.
@@Lee_B77 Lee B Looks like my comment got off somehow, but you're right, since the beginning Star Trek did that. I guess you can watch at least an episode of Discovery and make up your own mind, but from what i'm seeing online, it's horrible.
Jodie's costume says it all. It makes her look like a children's television presenter! It's just all so wrong-headed, on top of all the PC agenda stuff.
You see a guy in a clown costume no big deal. You see a 1ton grizzly in a clown costume and its a different matter altogether. All the prior doctors had a presence and magnitude that spoke in spite of their appearances. Not with this bitch tho
I started watching the doctor years ago but didn't become a whoviain until I began watching it with my son. I was excited to see a change in the show as the ratings were dropping. But I desperately miss David Tennant. Especially after this. Jodie Wittaker can't act and she only got the job bc she dated Chibnall. I think it's a pity that they are butchering the Who I know and love. But what pisses me off THE MOST is the agenda. Why? Why shove a political message no one wants to see. These ratings are BS!
Dr Who always had an agenda, take a look at some of the old Jon Pertwees for Womens rights, Workers rights, and anti automation story lines. The biggest issue for me with the latest series hasn't been the female doctor the companions or the agenda it's been that for me the stories have mostly been dull.
@@roydickel9183 At last a free thinker! I also agree the "stories" weren't the best and there has been worse. My anger comes from the blatant belittlement of women in general.
Im 60.... have always snuck a viewing of the Doc . Loved its quirky sci fi unique narrative. This show is just political crap. Preaching the cultural Marxist mem. I hate it now. And feel like I've lost friend.
Star trek discovery inserted SJW crap, ruined it. Star wars inserted SJW crap, ruined it. Doctor who inserted SJW crap, ruined it. There's definitely a pattern there.
Social justice is not a problem. Star Trek TOS was FULL of it. If you didn't understand that, you didn't watch Star Trek. Roddenberry's vision of Earth was a total communist utopia. Money no longer exists. People share free and unlimited resources. Everyone work for free, solely for the improvement and enjoyment of life. The Next Generation's first couple seasons dealt with woman's rights, marriage and gender equality, definition of life, and many progressive social justice topics. Being SJW is actually at the core of Star Trek philosophy, a better future of universal equality. The problem is not with the message, is with the skillfulness of way the message is being delivered.
The reason that "the experts" like this better then actual viewers, is the same reason Star Trek Discovery had the same problem is the same reason that the last (female centric) Ghostbusters exists , etc. Our betters will give us what they want, and don't really care what we believe/want. Try watching almost any TV program.
Yes indeed Scott. We are in the wrong. We are guilty of wrongthink. It is incumbent on them, they see it as thier goal and almost responsibility to educate or re educate us into rightthink. Then of course, everyone would be on board and would LOVE the programming they deemed correct for us. I seriously do now get the distinct impression that many now really in all seriousness believe something along those lines.
Honestly I liked Discovery. They wrote a good interesting story which happened to have a female lead. Not like DW where the show runner only auditioned women for the main role that had previously been a man. Should've auditioned both men and women. Also, apparently the show runner doesnt went Jodie to watch any previous Doctor Who... how are you supposed to take over a role when you dont know anything about what has come before?
DeadPixelz Discovery didn’t ‘just happen’ to have a female lead - there was never any consideration that Burnham would be male. But that’s not even close to why a lot of people dislike Discovery - the show was just not reminiscent of Star Trek as the hopeful vision of the future and instead focused on being ‘dark and gritty’ like so much other sci-fi.
I was a HUGE Doctor Who fan for MANY years, and I gave Jodie a serious chance...because after all for me the Doctor being a woman was not out of the realm of possibility within the lore of Doctor Who, and I don't mind female leads, they can even be really awesome. But like so many other people have commented, I really hated it and could not watch more than the first 3 episodes. My reasons were that it's become an SJW virtue signaling show with just a touch of sci-fi thrown in...and the sci-fi is not that much of a sci-fi. I was really disappointed that they went that route. Instead of writing a good sci-fi show for the sake of writing a good sci-fi show, they went the route of preaching their personal beliefs to try and push those personal beliefs on everyone else. I have lost count at the number of TV series I've stopped watching for similar reasons. Nowadays practically every show has a gay/lesbian/bisexual/trans/LGBTQ character and usually more than 1 and it's a main part of the storyline. That is a HUGE turn off. Not the fact they have gay/lesbian/bisexual/trans/LGBTQ characters, but that their sexuality becomes at least secondary (large secondary) part of the storyline in an attempt to push they beliefs on to everyone else...as if the people in holywood are somehow smarter, better and morally superior to everyone else (yes that same holywood that has a HUGE problem with sexual assault, sexual harrassment, pedophilia and child sex traficking)
I understand the idea of cheesy "statement scenes," but one of your complaints is "practically every show has an LGBTQ character" and it's apart of the main storyline. I mean...hetero romance is seen throughout almost all genres and often becomes secondary. Dudes with love interests, girls with love interests. Widows and widowers grieving and slowly finding love again. Sex and sexual attraction is rampant throughout shows, but when it's one or two gay people in there, it's like, "*Geez*, enough already, I get it,"? I mean I've seen the argument of "Yeah, I don't care if they're that so long as it's on the side." Hardly mentioned, hardly seen...easy to forget or ignore. How else do we normalize the concept? LGBTQ people have the same lives and go through the same things. But they don't wanna see it anywhere in their television and movies? What I don't like is one-dimensional characterization and overt stereotyping. Don't put them there only for the sake of them being LGBTQ. They're complex human beings and should still be treated as such, not used as a "daily dose of social commentary" mouthpiece per episode. The Orville's got a gay couple that have a kid, but them being gay isn't all they are. They play other roles and do other things and have character. But their relationship isn't ignored either and *shouldn't* be. Episodes come up where stuff happens in their relationship, same as with straight couples. Shows should be able to handle LGBTQ people and their relationships the same way they handle heteronormative relationships, and it shouldn't be concerning that it's in more shows. The thing is...I don't know if a whole 'statement period" is necessary given the fact that LGBTQ people being represented at all still tends to ruffle feathers. Most changes and things that happen in humanity tend to have "statement periods." Hell, some people still think pregnancy should be frickin' hidden and that people wearing belly-hugging dresses is too much of a statement.
@@ar47yrr4p Lol Your ignoring their existence doesn't make them go away. Their lifestyles aren't any more dangerous than a heterosexual's. it's truly outrageous how you want to brush people off and hide them away simply because they don't line up with you. You make being gay or bi the exception yet you clearly still have problems with them given your distaste in seeing them in shows. The LGBT community is estimated to make up roughly 4%, though the number could be larger or smaller since actual recording of numbers is relatively new and the fact that there's still so much fear surrounding actually coming out. The percent seems low, but the U.S. has a large population. Conservatively speaking, there are at least eight million people in the U.S. alone that identify as LGBT, and that's lowballing. Millions of people that exist and deserve representation. They aren't over-represented at all. Representation as a whole is a complete ball of wax. If we wanna start getting into the nitty-gritty of representation in media then quite a few other groups are under represented if you are trying to go for some sort of mathematical fairness...but talking about race representation gets people just as angry and butthurt. Their existence is not an affront to yours nor is their presence shoving anything down your throat. It's disappointing you seem to have such a strong reaction to seeing people living slightly differently than you. "Oh god, they're hugging! Why must they do this to me!" Live your life. They're living theirs. No reason to get so bent out of shape.
@@Rainsofchange And there you have it....your bias is preventing you from seeing anything that you don't want to see. So much so that you've now labelled me as someone who has a distate or even hatred for LGBTQ. Seems you've completed forgotten my original post that you responded to in order to be able to set up your straw men to tear me down. First off, no one here is ignoring their existence...but yes, their lifestyles are VERY much more dangerous than a heterosexual's, and there's plenty of data that proves that to be the case, but if you just want to ignore that then you are not being nice to the LGBTQ community because you are perpetuating something that hurts them. And I'm glad you managed to find the 4% figure, I was hoping you'd do that otherwise you'd ignore it when I said if they are just 4% and you want fair representation then why are they represented in easily over 50% of TV shows and movies? Shouldn't they only make up about 4% of characters in TV and movies? Why the need to oversaturate entertainment with their dangerous and in some cases sick, disgusting and perverted (I've seen those videos of grown men dressing up like women and fawning and lusting over the 8 year old and 11 year old boys who dress up like women and dance provocatively...if you try and tell me that there is nothing wrong with grown men dressed as women fawning over 8 year olds and 11 year olds dressed up like women then I can't help you because you are just as sick and depraved as they are) Also, race is totally different than LGBTQ. Race is something you are born with and cannot change. LGBTQ (aside from being gay or bi) is a mental disease. As for getting bent out of shape, you seem to be the one getting bent out of shape because I DARE to say the truth that you are not willing to accept. And as I've already stated in my first post (and you obviously chose to ignore), I don't mind LGBTQ in my TV shows and movies ...as long as it's not EVERY FUCKING show...and as long as it's not part of the storyline. I'm reminded of The Return of the Jedi movie (from way back when)...the scene in the desert with Jabba and Luke about to be sacrificed to that pit ... it was mentioned by George Lucas (or someone else, I don't recall who) how that scene cost a lot of money to set up, the beautiful background scene that cost them lots of money yet they didn't dwell on the background scene or focus on the background scene, it was just there and it enhanced the story. Had they focused on that background in an attempt to say "look at the beautiful scenery we spent so much money on" it would have taken away from the movie (and you see that in some B movies). Same thing goes here for LGBTQ stuff in TV and film...don't make it a focus of your film because that ruins the story. And finally, the reason that there are so many TV shows and movies that have LGBTQ in them nowadays is because holywood is virtue signaling. They think (and you do as well) that they are better than everyone else so they can and should dictate to people how they should live their lives and what's right and wrong, what's moral and immoral. This is the real reason for all the LGBTQ, but in reality they don't care about LGBTQ (that's why it's called virtue signaling). Maybe you'll be able to understand some of this...but I'm not holding my breath. You've already shown yourself to be a disgusting human being who is willing to let 8 year old kids be exploited by sick depraved individuals!
@@ar47yrr4p Lol All this pontificating and contradiction. Saying you don't have a problem with them, but go on to say the exact opposite. Keep writing yourself into the ground my friend. Stay angry.
@@Rainsofchange So I was correct in assuming you wouldn't understand what I said...either that or you are purposely ignorant, but whatever! But OMG lol..I find it hilarious (and somewhat interesting) that many people that I've had "discussions" with over the years will say that I am angry...as if making the other person angry is a win when it comes to debates/discussions! That's a really childish mentallity. First of all, why is anger a bad thing? Why is anger in this situation a bad thing? And note that the anger here is only you saying I'm angry, the fact of whether I actually am angry or not is irrelevant to you because all you need is the accusation for you to feel like you've "won the argument" (and note, it's a "win the argument" tactic as opposed to trying to be right). But anger can be a good thing. Properly directed anger can make good change. Now misplaced anger can be bad. So, tell me, this anger that you are telling me I have, is it a misplaced anger (and why do you think that) or is it a properly directed anger (and why do you think that)? Could it be about you supporting a sick and disgusting lifestyle that puts young kids in serious danger (go ahead and pretend that doesn't happen, but if you actually cared about kids you wouldn't ignore this)?
This reflects the different background of critics. If you look at the political position of commentators and critics on the mainstream media, they are almost always strongly of a liberal persuasion. This means they will give extra "brownie points" to a movie or a TV series simply and only because the characters are part of an "oppressed minority" or the subject is about the same minority. They often forget their role is to supply an unbiased assessment of a movie or TV series, remembering to stress the entertainment value of the production first and last.
Bleeding cool just had an article on a fizzling Christmas tradition of Doctor Who. I commented and got deleted within a day, because I didn't drink my WHO koolaid before responding. BUT the hateful responses I received to my statement are still there
It would've been better if Capaldi's Doctor finally died but able to reunite with his granddaughter Susan who's now a Time Lady and gives her the TARDIS. Then Susan takes up the Doctor name in honor of her grandfather. Jodie would've fit so much better as a new Time Lord instead being the newest incarnation of a long running character.
Or shit, Missy pulled a face turn at the end of last season. The Doctor never ended up saving the people from the Cybermen. Missy died, but she died by the elevator, and we already saw that the Cybermen can bring people back from the dead with worse injuries. So say that the Cyberman brought back Missy and converted her, only for her to regenerate and defeat the Cybermen. The Doctor is dead because she failed to help him, so she takes his name.
I just watched the Day of the Doctor special again on iPlayer and it was just wonderful, great story , great acting , funny ,dark , amazing! Then I accidentally clicked on a current episode and OH MY GOD ! flat , boring, no real plot , who the hell at the BBC thought this was up to par to be called DR WHO ? 😠
Because they are political/religous followers. Is that a Doctor Who Facebook group or people who only just found out they liked the show because it's staring a woman?
I find it hilarious they use the whole "oh it;s just getting bad reviews because the companion are people of colour" argument. Do they forget that Martha existed? One of the most popular companions ever.
I watched as much as I could stand, so I could legitimately analyze it... but it was just so bad, after the 5th episode I couldn't stand it any more and gave up. It burns as badly as STD and Soy Wors now. SJWs really do ruin EVERYTHING!
I wish there was a negative star on Rotten Tomatoes. Honestly, I absolutely despise Series 11. Why can't people take constructive criticism. And then people in the fandom who then bully others who don't share their positive views on the show. It makes me feel sick to be part of the Doctor Who fandom. I'm going to just ignore the new series and everything that comes after it. I miss it when people wanted to do cool stories, with scary monsters, a good Doctor and interesting characters. But instead we get a crap tooth man with the power of a god. Who is shot in the foot and defeated by a bus driver. Companions that don't have any impact on the plot and just stand around looking bored while the worst Doctor ever gives a lecture on how she is being oppressed. Dull stories with barely any plot, only aimed at pushing an agenda that discriminates against White men. It truly hurts. It died with Twice Upon a Time. It stopped there for me. I would do anything to stop myself from watching Series 11.
Her replacement will probably be a black disabled lesbian non-binary dragon-kin. Once a show sips the poison of SJW based identity politics the only way is a downwards spiral of ever more blatant and ridiculous virtue signalling. And no matter how hard they try, they'll never win over those who see it for the bullshit it is, and they'll also never be progressive enough for the rabid SJW's they're trying to appease. Just look at that cancerous cartoon known as Steven Universe for an example of a show that tries to appease these weirdos. The show is hot progressive garbage and propaganda aimed at corrupting the minds of children. Non the less I've seen a two hour long critique of it by an SJW on UA-cam who calls himself Lily Orchard where it's basically him ripping on it endlessly for not being progressive enough, not handling the LGBT elements just the way he would have liked, calling elements of it 'problematic', you know the score. Writers and animators on the show have been hounded off of it and doxxed by the rabid fanbase for not passing their draconian SJW purity standards. The fanbase drove one girl who was drawing fan art inspired by the show to be hospitalised after she attempted suicide due to their relentless online harassment of her because the fan art she was creating didn't meet their stringent SJW rules (something I'm convinced it's impossible to do anyway due to the vagueness and often contradictory nature of many of their rules). The people DW is now trying to attract are these same sick and depraved individuals and it will be the cause of DW's humiliating downfall. A real shame really.
Subscribed! I didn't know you had a comic shop in SF. Respect from up here in Sactown, the world's sci-fi capitol per capita. :) One thing I've heard is that the UK ratings for the current series is actually including views on the BBC's iPlayer and DVRs 28 days after the initial broadcast whereas in the recent past few seasons/series, they counted only up to 7 days beyond the broadcast. That's totally moving the goal posts on top of getting the artificial bump in ratings from the initial broadcast due to the show now being televised in the much less competitive time period on Sunday - instead of Saturday - back on the BBC proper. I have no idea how BBC America is tallying everything up. It has to be a bunch of jiggery-pokery considering BBC America is barely even televising ChibWho in comparison to MoffatWho. It's hardly even on anymore. You're more apt to find old reruns of The X-Files or Start Trek: The Next Generation being televised on BBC America than ChibWho. One could infer from that that AMC must not be very happy with their investment in BBC America considering they bought the majority stake in it while Matt Smith was generating the highest ratings for NewWho on BBC America back then. If they keep this up, I suspect "BBC America" will become "AMC2" or "Viceland 2" or something that receives better ratings. I'd laugh if "NewWho" ended up on PBS [KQED and KVIE for NorCal] like ClassicWho all of those years ago...
The best thing about this season is it’s given me the motivation to watch Dr Who from the beginning. And you know what? Barbara Wright is a million times better Jodi. Amazing women have been part of Dr Who from the beginning. To those who care...I’m a Jewish woman and I’m not white. I’m tired of the sexist, racist, bigoted SJW media pretending people like myself don’t exist. I don’t like what’s been done with Dr Who because they’ve killed everything that made the show great.
@@micahmahaffey5919 I agree there are some bad Episodes due to PC crap but Peter Capaldi is just a brilliant actor and delivers such a brilliant performance that I still found season 8-9 very entertaining and season 10 at least not a waste of time (exept the doctor falls which was brilliant)
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 exactly, I feel like the BBC was forcing their agendas but Moffat and Capaldi did their best and still had some brilliant moments,
See, this is the really annoying attitude. “I haven’t watched it in four years, so it should be taken off air so nobody gets to enjoy it”. Fuck you man, fuck you.
It's not made for you, it's for children. They said this about games, they said this about comics, they said this about Thundercats, She-Ra etc. What they should have said is: _"Our propaganda (identity politics) isn't meant for you, it's meant for your kids."_ Decades ago Anita Sarkeesian said: _"Everything is sexist, racist, phobic, and you have to point it all out."_ She also said that you can't just inject ONE social justice ☭ cause into media, you need to inject all causes in all media so people can't escape it. And that's what happening right now. The movie industry, the music industry, the gaming industry, the comics industry, silicon valley, banks they are all forcing everybody to accept their narratives and if you don't they'll call you Far/Alt Right Nazi crybabies... just because you're defending your hobbies and entertainment that don't involve real world's problems (escapism, power fantasies are not allowed anymore thanks to Neo Marxist Post Modern Intersectionality)
Decades ago huh...? Your rant is as idiotic as the new Doctor Who. There's literally no such thing as "Neo Marxist Post Modern Intersectionality". You're just stringing words together. It sucks because I do agree that the new Dr. Who is bad, but pointing it out as a product of cultural brainwashing by communist overlords is nonsensical and basically some conspiracy nutjob shit. You are detached.
When are the feminists & their sjw/npc friends going to support Dr. Who? I mean truly support financially, by viewing, reviewing etc... These people wreck fandoms, then leave. Buying one t-shirt, or Tardis isn't gonna do it!!
First. Its bad when the companions are more entertaining than the Doctor. While it's getting more views than last season, the viewers are not liking the show much. Its ok to give it some episodes for her to develop, Peter to me wasn't very good in the first few episodes, it took him a while to fit. Sadly she hasn't fit yet, she hasn't developed an unique personality and the season is done. She is a bad fit for a Doctor. Now imagine if Missy wasn't in the show and was the new Doctor. THAT would have been a great female Doctor, not Jodie.
Exactly! Maybe it started off that way 56 years ago, but it's certainly not one today. Not with all the death, destruction, and cheeky sexual undertones, not to mention the constant hammering of everyone's sexual orientation into viewers. Big deal. We don't care what you do in your bedroom. We want to see fun adventures and aliens more than anything.
As of 11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time on December 26, 2018, series 11 of Doctor Who has dropped another percentage point to 29%. And yet, the media continues to try to convince the viewers that series 11 was awesome.
I am a woman and I have not watched this new season of Doctor Who at all. Not interested. I quit watching because, I thought it was going to far putting a woman in. I knew it was for a SJ agenda and I am pretty sick of everything being offensive. I've been watching Doctor Who since I was 10 years old and now I am 50 so yeah. It has been a long time being a fan of a tv show. Not anymore!!
I have a couple of female friends that hated the Doctor becoming a woman. They didn't really elaborate much but I think it sort of ruined a fantasy for them. The idea of being swept off their feet by a mysterious man and going on adventures. Don't think they fancy being swept of their feet by another woman.
The funny thing about the "women are finally represented" argument is that they always have been, far more strongly than men. The idea with the companions is that they were meant to represent the viewer, they're human, they're always amazed by the mysterious doctor. They're the eyes through which the story is told. As the season progresses they become stronger and more accustomed to it all, they always develop fantastically. They ARE the main characters, the perspective characters, and they are almost always women!
Writers these days don't understand that there's a difference with writing in diversity naturally and forcing a cause. When you tailor the story around pushing an agenda then you ruin it and you won't have a strong *insert minority* character. Reminds me of a quote about Black Buffy, the show was already diverse and changing the race for no reason other than proving your wokeness, actually stops you from making a strong Black character cuz she's always going to be Black Buffy. She is just female Doctor Who, instead of just the Doctor because they gender swapped her for no reason other than sticking to the White man.
3:07 Well at least Jodie confirmed the “It’s about time” was meant in the exact way we all new it was... not like it could possible mean its about time for a new series of the show.
I watched the new season with hope, that hope dwindled every episode. Couldn't verbalize what it was but knew she just didn't have the same...... doctor'ness. This video and some of the viewer reviews (especially Clint S 5 minutes in) that really verbalized what I was thinking. Great video!
It’s confirmed people, yesterday on the bbc they aired a modified version of the DW New Years trailer where after Graham asks if the monster has a name, they cut to the DW logo and you hear “EXTERMINATE”. Can’t wait to see Chibb’s mess up the Daleks as well. :/
I'm terrified that we will end up with the Daleks ready to destroy the world, but she will prevail simply by shaming and scolding them, then compare them to White Males
@@MarkusScott1977 It'd serve multiple purposes: 1) it'd make a reset easier and 2) the recovery of the real Doctor would make for a good show (or at least better than this season).
Id heard the products werent selling. they will probably try to use the selling of the macra terror to up her score claming it was part of the new series rather than people buying classic who. But anyway now fans will have a year to fester over a terrible first impresion, the very thing that helped kill the 6th doctor.
Season 12 will have to be dramatically better and fundamentally different right out of the gate, when it finally does arrive, or it really will be game over
The ratings for every season of Dr. Who are listed in Wikipedia. The fact is that season 11 of Dr. Who pulled in more viewers throughout the season than did season 10 or season 9. Viewership is the best determination of popularity. Facts: Season 11 of Dr. Who had an average of 6.10 million viewers per episode, ranging from 5.07 million viewers to 8.2 million viewers. Season 10 of Dr. Who had an average of 4.04 million viewers per episode, ranging from 2.89 million viewers to 5.68 million viewers. Season 9 of Dr. Who had an average of 4.52 million viewers per episode, ranging from 3.7 million viewers to 6.34 million viewers.
Gary just wanted to say that you hit the nail on the head on this episode segment. Although I feel that the quality of show can come back to life and it's not dead and gone. Unfortunately, we have to call it for the year 2018 that it was dead for this year. I hope that Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who can be provide in 2019, but I'm not holding my breath either.
A year plus until the next season...anyone want to place odds on whether it will actually even return? That is a lot of time for the BBC to come up with a reason to cancel it or have the actors embark on other (better) projects and just abandon the show altogether. My crystal ball says that they bail entirely and then try a complete reboot somewhere between 2023 and 2025.
Same, if they can't sell any merchandises they will be forced to accept that this season was a failure. And since BBC won't give the right to anybody else, the series will be forced to stop until real fans decide to pick it up again one day, when the sjw movement will have died.
@Shawn Burke the show can survive if it has the right team behind it and the right lead actor. Also, the show was cancelled last time but came back...so it shows that it is liked. They just need to sort this mess out first.
Joe Coverstone go watch the porno then if that is all you care about. And the point I was making was if Tilda Swinton was the Doctor then for the first few episodes The Doctor would not know what to think...during the first episode when The Doctor looks in a mirror and see her reflection she can go, "Something is missing..." And then pulls out a pencil and draws a mustache on her face before carrying on as normal. Make it so the Doctor doesn't care and just be the lonely alien traveling through time helping out as she goes along but have fun with it. Eventually she realises she is a woman now and then that is it. Don't reference it again.
As much as we all want Tilda Swinton and could do wonders in the role, an actor of that calibre won't be constrained by a television schedule and still considers the medium as slumming it on an artistic level.
J.C. Marshall you never honestly know. We have seen big actors take roles on the small screen more often now a days so it is not that much of a stretch that it could happen. I mean Idris Elba has come back to do Luther again for the BBC for instance. And Benedict Cumberbatch so does a lot of small screen work as well as big screen films too.
This is going to keep happening over and over, franchise after franchise, until audiences make a stand. I don't think most of us need to have it explained again - the facsimile of liberal progressiveness being pushed by studios as an easy back door into better PR and reviews (and they hope sales as well). We know these studios don't really believe in this stuff - behind the scenes they are all too happy to flex their corporate power to silence anybody who disagrees with them or threatens their dominance; the very antithesis of liberalism. Kathleen Kennedy is a great example. Poses as a liberal hero, but also fosters a reputation for firing anybody who doesn't bend to her will unequivocally and insults people who disagree with her on anything. Disney has been outted numerous times (the last time just a few days ago by journalist and director Kyle Newman) for threatening to revoke journalists' access to their screenings if they don't give them a positive review. Here in the UK, the BBC have a massive reputation for bad business practice, inequality, gender and racial pay gaps, and general anti-consumerism. All these people and companies behave more like tyrannical fascist elitists than liberal heroes. But they do it because it allows them to carry on with their lazy mentality of "whatever allows us to make maximum profit off of minimum effort". To take any other approach, would mean putting in effort, giving a damn, and actually hiring people who know what they are doing with these franchises rather than handpuppet after handpuppet, just there to offer themselves up to modern-day tyrants. But again I must reiterate - this will keep happening until fans make a stand against it. You can't continue to criticize their creative direction whilst simultaneously giving them your money so that they can carry on. If you support them with your money and/or viewership, you concede any right to continue complaining (once you already know how bad it's going I mean - obviously you won't know beforehand. For instance, we weren't to know how bad it would get in Star Wars Ep8, but now that we do, we can't justly support Kathleen Kennedy's terrible, politically-fuelled direction going into Ep9, especially now she is on the precipice of being let go finally). If the fans can mount the unity and solidarity to do something about this, then we'll be able to secure something for the future of our favorite franchises, and stop more going this way.
"If we call them misogynist bigots enough they'll change their minds"
Only the change of mind is that instead of trying to ignore the SJWs, we all decide to pound them into the turf.
To be fair, many people tried the more reasonable approach. They got met with responses like the comment above. The causes they, in a round about way, stand for have been mocked for decades. It's funny how the outrage and disgust for them coincides with the point they stop being nice.
The new Doctor is utter dogshit though.
And when you pound someone into the turf over fucking words, we will remove you from society, since you're a fucking criminal.
@@allanfloyd8103 I'm sure he was being figurative...
@DejaVoodooDoll Heads up everyone our reddit thread has been brigaded by alt right TROLLZ!
Their opinions and thoughts aren't valid because they're just trolls. Tag and ignore, boys!
I've got my 2019 Doctor Who calender. There's a picture of a Doctor per month. Happily. There's only 12 months in a year. Guess which Doctor got left off?
This is probably stupid of me, but John Hurt or Jodie Whittaker?
The War Doctor. :(
@@teenytv5194 Both John Hurt and Jodie Whittaker are missing. All other Doctors are preset and correct!
Ur a legend
I got a UK Doctor Who calendar and it does have the John Hurt Doctor in it. I had to laugh that they chose to include him over Whittaker. I think there is a separate calender JUST for season 11.
Nobody has issues with who the companions are, cast your minds back to season 1 with Ecclestone, we had Rose (white female), Micky (non white) and Captain Jack (bi/gay), nobody cared becasue their characters made them who they were not arbitrary characteristics
Yup PREACH
also they forgetting Martha? She is a totally epic companion or what about freaking Sarah Jane Smith! Love her!
It's because those characters were actually written well and had growth.
The reason Mickey Smith is a great character is because he goes from a wimpy coward to a well-adjusted companion. Jack Harkness learns a kind of humility with his immortality, and Martha Jones learns to become self-sufficient and that she can do anything. Even The Ponds and River have character growth, but the new series only cares about the Doctor being a woman and not THE DOCTOR happening to regenerate into a female form, and that makes all the difference.
No growth, no character development, just pointless plotlines and dry companions. Don't expect intruiging plot threads like Bad Wolf or The Pandorica Device anymore.
I for one am just gonna watch the old series and try not to cry. Maybe someday someone will free it from the depths of hell to live again, but for now all we can do is morn what we lost
@@skydragonslayer9820 She could have been so much better, but in her tenure in the series, they had her pining after the Doctor like they didnt know what to do with companions after Rose left.... Martha became kick ass after she got out of Roses shadow, stopped bein a companion and joined Unit. Personally, Im glad that the last lot of companions havent been romantic foil for the Doctor. Finally we can just focus on adventures in time and space, and not romantic dramas
@@DecoyOfHam but no matter if you loved or hated the character, you believe in the character that it was fleshed-out. People are so busy checking boxes to show how politically awesome they are that they're not being constructive, with things like plot and story development and character development.
Yeah I get YA there but has anyone else noticed every single on of the doctors companions end up with a black husband I have no issue with it was just a little detail I noticed well Up to Peter capaldies second companion
Down to 24% now. They pulled a Star Wars Last Jedi. Perhaps, Doctor Who: The Last Doctor. Barf!
@James Wood How low can it go...
@@johncressmanci Well it has been canceled before and most likely will be again. I am hoping it will be soon so the people who remember the good things about it will reboot it in 2 or 3 decades from now
22 now. Surprisingly, the Critic score is staying at the same.
@Adam P where do we begin?
Studios never learn:
*_Get Woke, Go Broke_*
"You're complaining about a children's show... now excuse me while I celebrate the imagined success of a children's show."
It's really not a kid's show mate. It's just a shitshow only appeals to feminists and retards
@@thommathy5681
It's a kid's show.
It's always been a kid's show.
People now pretending like it's anything more than it's ever been are only fooling themselves.
@@Cbricklyne watched it years ago (70's), it was an "adult" (not profane) show, and enjoyable enough for me to plunk down money to buy some vids. Haven't watched in years; so it may have devolved as you, and others are saying here! I just came on here to confirm my suspicions that it has turned to into crap, like music and comedy today have for example too!
@@ronschlorff7089 IKR
@@thommathy5681 I don't know or care if it's a kid's show, I've never really watched it before. I always saw it like The Simpsons, like it appeals to everyone. My only point is that one minute they're laughing at people and use the "kids show!" "argument" then when it suits them they celebrate it being a success? So is it weird to be emotionally attached to a "kids show" or not? They need to make up their minds because right now it looks like they labelled it a kids show and they're drinking champagne because it got good ratings.
They're inconsistent. The only consistent aspect to these nutjobs is that they're nutjobs.
"Childern's TV show" Ah yes, the "It's for kids" Excuse card.
Edit: Thanks for 1K likes. You guys are the best.
"it's a children's movie about space wizards, don't read too much into it".
not gonna give my email address to rotten tomatoes and i don't facebook, otherwise i'd leave a 0 feedback.
If it was a kid show it would have been moved to CBBC in the reboot. It's for everyone of all ages.
If it is my kids don't like it, they find it boring.
Actually Doctor Who was always made by the BBC drama department. It was classed as family entertainment not kids tv. Most of the snowflake generation don’t know this.
48 year-old female here, watched Who since late 1974. My first story was the Tom Baker debut 'Robot'. Doctor Who is not a 'children's show' per se. It is and was a family show, with fans of all ages. Back in the day it was a show the whole family watched together at teatime/early Saturday evening, not part of children's programming which was from 4-5.30pm on weekdays and was aimed squarely at children watching alone. Who may have been conceved for kids out the gate but it quickly became popular with adults and was writen with all ages in mind as a consequence. It was a show you grew up with and enjoyed watching again as an adult, with an adult's perspective. To dismiss complaints with 'it's not for you anyway' is to dismiss most of its most ardent fanbase.
Those “reporters” and “critics” have no integrity
I increasingly lost interest during Smith's run, struggled mightily through Capaldi's tenure, and completely gave up soon after the new Doctor appeared... Not because the new Doctor is a woman, and not because her companions are people of color, but because the show SUCKS. And that's the fact that people pushing this female empowerment stuff refuse to acknowledge.
I fully agree with you, and this is something that is being lost by both camps. The new Doctor Who was already average from the start, IMO. The quality of the acting and writing just got worse and worse as time passed by, which led us to here.
To me, the problem isn't "the propaganda pushed by the BBC" or "the PC culture ruining a show." Lots of shows also push political or social agendas (i.e. StarTrek), but no one cares because the stories are compelling enough to make you think and enjoy the show. This Doctor Who drama is just a case of mediocre writing and acting become so bad that the show became unwatchable.
i mean, there are plenty of episodes during and before Smith's doctor that were about female empowerment so :/
but yeah i do agree that the show has gone downhill since the 11th doctor im just mad that people are blaming the fact that the doctor is now a woman, instead of the writers being awful
I joined during Smith's run and relatively enjoyed it. Capaldi's run was okay up until his last season. I haven't watched the new one because of what I heard and work. I was really excited for it because of Jodi's works in Broadchurch, I absolutely loved her in that. Then I heard of how the show was being handled and decided to skip on it like I did with the new Star Wars.
how about series 9? pretty sure except for clara, it was great
Yeah I can agree with that. I stopped watching during Capaldi's run because I saw a decline in quality by then; I just didn't like it as much, and found it rather boring. Meanwhile the seasons with Tennant and Smith had the best episodes imo and those are the ones that kept me hooked to the show.
Who needs Daleks when we have some great villains such as: Racist time traveler, whiny janitor, spiders/american politician, and of course my personal favorite; moths.
Don't forget the god frog.
The evil tooth fairy?
I actually liked the last season, but you do have a point.
I can't bring myself to watch this
BROTHER I CRAVE THE FORBIDDEN LAMP
"You are a grown man complaining about a children's television show."
But that would mean the writer is a grown man/woman defending a children's television show. Isn't that just as silly as the initial example?
Nice unintentional self burn for that writer.
not just defending but watching, reviewing, writing about and defending a children's TV show for an adult readership....... rich in irony indeed !
despite most of the actual audience being adult and buying the merchandise ...
Turns out resistance is not futile after all :)
"Cunts are born to be hypocrites."
well that's one way to defend the show !!
Correction it's a family show. And this season is shit!
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If the show's target audience is for children... why was it on Saturday night at 9 pm for most of its run... a time when most children aren't watching TV, which is why there's little other children's TV on at that time?
They don't seem to be aware that we can research this stuff rather easily.
"A show does not get cancelled just because you shout about how much you hate it on social media."
Perhaps not, but people lose their livelihoods on Patreon, have their careers and reputation irreversibly damaged and find themselves being attacked by libelous hit-pieces from mainstream journalistic outlets just for their social media presence lmao
if the show is shit, they deserve it
Back down to 29%. Unsurprising given what this once-amazing show has become to push such toxic ideology.
Pretty sure even the Jonestown cult followers weren't this full of abject nonsense.
Just checked down to 28% haha
@@slimjimpui i'm not a DW fan. never was, likely never will be BUT, I just compared the audience rattings of this show s11 vs 10,9,8, and 7 and holy hell fans are pissed off.they plummeted from the low 80s to 28% jesus.
Same here, not invested in Dr Who at all but I sympathize with and relate to the fans as my own childhood favourites (Ghostbusters and Star Wars) have been chewed up and spat out by ideologues in exactly the same way. My investment is towards the fanbase airing their grievances
Because now having morals and acceptance is being toxic. Get off!
my labrador will be the next doctor who for the sake of diversity and inclusion
Seems legit
I would actually watch that, atleast labs are cute and not preachy and political.
Doctor Whoof
It was at 29% at one point yesterday but went back up to 30%
Back to 29 🤟
Back to 29
RT is known for discounting very bad user ratings in order to boost certain properties. I wouldn't be surprised if the rating was truly lower.
Its at 29 and i left a scathing review just now. I made my first account just to do it
29% right now
B-b-b-b-b-but the the media told me the ratings are good!
ratings mean nothing nowadays
Well, the media uses the Critical Reviews, not Angry Guys (I use guys for both genders) on the Internet Reviews.
The ratings are OK, but they are falling. The first episode was watched by so many people, because "first female Doctor", but when the gimmick was done, the ratings start to fall. A show, any show, have to keep the interest of the audience. This incarmation? Not so much.
@@Elkott Actual ratings do mean A LOT. It is how networks price their ads playing on the shows. However Rotten Tomatoes and the like are not ratings by any stretch of the imagination.
@@ronpetersen2317 except you forget the bbc in the UK doesnt have adds it isn't allowed as its the public broadcaster. So when making decisions about this stuff ends up being a little different then most networks. The money from the DW merch is more important for them to consider as its really the main income stream for the show due to having no adds
It just broke the 30% mark. It is now sitting on 29%. Even all of the fake five star reviews could not save this. And imagine how low the score would be if they counted all of those half star reviews.
They dosen't count 1/2 star to "audience liked" percentage or to "average rating"? I don't use rotten tomatoes, so i'm confused by now :D
28% and counting.
So trhe bad reviews are all "real" and the good one are "fake". Right.
@@nickmoore5105 - Lets put it this way, a lot of the 5 star reviews are by empty accounts that have only ever reviewed one thing and that is a five star review, with no text, of Doctor Who. This is the classic sign of sock puppets (fake accounts). Meanwhile, why do a fake half star review when they don't count towards the final total?
Martha Jones was a person of color AND a woman and she was badass! So that throws that argument out the window. The writing is lackluster, the acting is mediocre, and I don't care for any of the characters! It's just fitting that there's no Christmas Special this season as the whole thing was just disappointing, and no a New Years Special just isn't the same!
Woooooow, it's almost as if cramming identity politics down people's throats puts them off.
Who'd have thunk it
While I'm not a Dr Who fan the commentary and reviews this season has resulted in are entertaining as all hell. Cheers and merry Christmas!
is it still christmas in your country?
@@MichaelM28 close enough lol cheers
@@MichaelM28 Michael - SHAME!
You can't talk to Count Doku like that!!!!!
yeah the comments have better ratings than the show now
12 Days of christmas
It dipped to 29% on Christmas day, but seems to have poked back up. Wondering if there is a campaign to push the ratings back up!
"This is the BBC calling all cock-sucking NPC millennials"
"Upvote Doctor Who or we'll revoke your TV licenses!"
Back down to 29
@@cormoran2303 I already revoked my own licence, legally :P
@@deadschooled 28 now
I stopped after Rosa Parks. The concept could have been amazing, but instead I got an hour long virtue signal from across the pond.
Yeah, the idea of the TARDIS crew meeting Rosa Parks could have lead to a good script and an awesome episode. Instead what we got was a half-assed script and a lackluster episode. The BBC needs to hire better writers, replace the producer and replace the directors.
This has NOTHING (zero, squat, ziltch) to do with gender or skin color, the show just needs to be made by people who are up to the standard of quality that us Whovians came to expect from the Russell T Davies era.
Thirteen's story arc (such as it is) is so uninteresting that it might as well not be there. Every Doctor Who show since the Seventh Doctor (except the Eighth Doctor who only had one episode) has had an engaging & ongoing story arc, even in Old-Who: The Third Doctor's long quest to end the restrictions placed upon him by the Time Lords, the Fourth Doctor's "Key To Time" and "E-Space" arcs, the Fifth Doctor's "Black Guardian" arc, Sixth Doctor's "Trial Of A TIme Lord" arc, and the Seventh Doctor's "Ace" arc and the (sadly unfinished) "Cartwell Masterplan" arc. Then with New-Who we got propper season-long (and even Doctor-long!) arcs: The Ninth Doctor and the Tenth Doctor brought us the long-running "Rose Romance" and "Bad-Wolf" arcs (and spun off Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures, which had their own arcs), and then the Tenth Doctor era continued it's excellent run with the whole Martha Jones character arc and the Harold Saxon/Return Of The Master/Sound Of Drums arc, and then the Doctor-Donna character arc, then finishing up Ten's run by wrapping up the Rose Romance arc via the Metacrisis Doctor story device. Brilliant writing! And then we got 11's story arcs with the whole crack-in-the-universe and River Song arcs. And then the level of quality dropped off after The Impossible Girl arc ended and we got 12's boring "am-I-a-good-man" story arc that made me want to stop watching (WTF happened there BBC?)
The level of writing we saw with Doctors 9 and 10 is simply not there with the Thirteenth Doctor. Perhaps 13 really is an unlucky number? Nah, it's just bad writing. BBC, you need to fire the writers, fire the producers, fire the directors. You tried to be all SJW and that fell flat on it's face with failure and shame, now pick yourself up and do better.
It’s 20% now
Really?
15% now
Went up to 22 now, I guess a lot of people are attacking/defending the show right now.
I checked the score on Rotten Tomatoes out of curiosity. 21% is pretty damning as 'bots' on either side would presumably balance each other out. Modern businesses have a bizarre habit of thinking they're above their customers nowadays and that we'll like what we're given and be grateful for it. Time to show them how wrong they are.
Sorry but everyone knows why the critic rating was so high. Being the first female Dr. anyone who leaves a bad review would be burned at the stake and called a sexist Nazi. Leaves a very healthy atmosphere to have your own opinion...
Critics are all cowards or complicit true believers. Most of them are cowards.
Anything with a SJW message is immediately shot up to high 90% or close to 100% regardless of whether it's a good movie/show or not. It's gotten to the point where you can pretty much guarantee that the show is going to either be complete SJW garbage or has the superficial message plastered all over it. I really don't understand why they assume trying this crap over and over on different franchises would illicit different results. It's almost as if they're systematically trying to sabotage all science fiction.
Well, to be fair, "if critics like it the audience will probably hate it" has been true for a lot longer than SJW have been involved in that process.
@@Taladar2003
To an extent, but you cannot deny that effect has gotten far, far worse ever since identity politics seemed to take over everything.
It's now at 29%. I was one of the negatives, Whittaker swore that I'd be one of the legion of 'new girl fans' who would replace the cis hetero straight white males (though Jodie, it's not only Caucasian males who used to love DW.)
What does "cis" even mean...?
@@LordMaster1231 Apparently, it denotes someone who's not confused about their sex/gender. A compliment to one's mental stability, basically.
24% and dropping...
@@petrmaly9087 Just think what'll be tomorrow after the dog's abortion of a NYD episode airs. When the Daleks go full transgender.
Well, the doctor is still cis straight and white, so we have long way to go...
Feminist have taken another childhood classic and castrated it.
They did the same thing with the Torchwood spinoff, when it moved to Showtime it went full on soft porn between guys. I would have to research it but wouldn't be surprised there are the same people behind this season. I wouldn't have minded them going with female doctor, that would have been cool, but its all he other stuff thrown in my face that turns me off.
Hardly, the show has been pretty decent this season. My favourite Doctor is Tom Baker and I've always been a fan of the show and I only have minor complaints about the new season. What appears to be happening is the bed-wetters who can't get over the fact The Doctor is now a woman are spamming bad reviews any chance they get without having watched a minute of it. The creators of the show back in the 1970s avoided making the Doctor a woman for this very reason, they knew the public would throw a hissy fit. Thanks for killing creativity you small-minded people!
@Alastor 52 - Not female at all, just a regular bloke who doesn't throw a fit over a bloody TV show. Besides, anyone who thinks the Doctor becoming a woman is such a mind-fuck clearly doesn't read a lot of science fiction.
@@MrNovember41 this isn't creativity this is feminism taking something that was already creative and turning it into a social political movement.
The only small minded people here are those who go about shaming others for not buying this BS.
P.S. thank you for proving my point ;)
ROTFLMMFAO
@@BriqWall - The fact is you are raging against a perceived political enemy of yours, I literally couldn't give a fuck about politics and am only wanting to highlight the fact people are putting that ahead of any real criticism of the show. I have watched this season and can actually make an educated comment on the matter. Can you say the same, or will you just billow more bollocks about femenists or any other political diatribe you borrowed from UA-cam?
That idiot saying people didn't like the new Doctor Who because she had companions that were PoC - didn't they see the Tenth Doctor series with Martha Jones? I thought she was a great companion!
I dated a gal that looked like Martha Jones. Which was cool. What wasn't cool is how she was crazy and tried to photoshop childhood pictures of me with her in it.
You do realise that most people call her the worst companion since the reboot? . . . Not sure why. She was one of my favourites.
Wuz314159 I suppose that's because so many fans loved Rose. Personally I preferred Martha, but to each their own. Donna was my absolute favourite though.
And Martha got a shit ton of underserved hate, so what’s your point.
Martha was awesome!!! She even saved earth AND the Doctor!
Doctor who?
Nah it's Dr Gender Studies
Just checked it is 29% now!! Worst ever series. I have been watching it since the 2nd doctor and I will not be returning to it any time soon!! It is a crying shame in the way it has been treated from hero to zero in 5 years!! I hope the BBC feels good about itself after ingratiating itself with its pontificating bullshit about how great the show is now!! Keep it coming nerdrotic, maybe the Beeb will listen to you after all the b/s has been mucked out from their ears!!......Not!!!!
I just wish that they'd given Capaldi another season, he had so much potential that the writers just squandered. His rage and raw emotion in some scenes were so fascinating. Like when he threatened Aria stark(I forgot the characters name) it was soooooo badass in my opinion. A damn shame
Peter is my favorite Doctor. He perfectly embodied that character.
doctor who writers have been pretty bad since Capaldi became the doctor, there were only some good episodes the rest were just boring or had more special effects than a plot
@@FantasmaNaranja that i agree with but capaldi could have been a good doctor but the scripts were at best terrible except a few that were good i do hope t davies coming back will revive but i say hope
R.I.P Mickey Smith, Martha Jones the forgotten companions.
Yeah, they were going to go to Torchwood. Did they do anything with that? That's what you get for replacing Davies with Moffatt...
The Smart-Casual Gamer. Moffat is a really good writer. He’s not as good a showrunner as Davies.
I thought the same thing about Barbara Wright when everyone started blabbing about the Whittaker being the first strong female role model. Barbara was the first companion and was stronger than the doctor and her fellow companions. It's an insult to characters like that and actresses like Jacqueline Hill to just forget everything they did.
@@GrahamCStrouse I agree Moffat is good at his one hits under Davies and on the odd occasion when he ran the show.
@dr103 I don't think it's was she didn't want to, wasn't it she started filming Law and Order UK(with Bradley Walsh) and couldn't physically get the time to return?
"Just not for white males anymore" I call bs on that the biggest fans in my house are my wife and daughter. I can also say for a fact that they are skipping this Doctor.
honestly the writing has been trash since peter capaldi's doctor took over, it's just gotten worse
@@FantasmaNaranja Which is truly sad since I liked Capaldi, the show has just been pretty shit for a while. I was excited as hell for a new showrunner as I kinda blamed Moffat since the decline was under his run (compared to Davies). But Chibnall's run has been a combo of OK "monster of the week" episodes and no bigger arcs, returning characters, etc, and not much else, so like a pretty OK episode under all of the above. Except it also takes time to verbally and audibly pat itself on the back about how progressive it is rather than just making the characters and stories great. So... it's not as awful as some of the really dumb shit (e.g., the golden arrow) recently a lot of times but there's still nothing spectacular. I'd still rewatch random Tennant episodes in spite of the leaps in production quality since then.
its like the folks who were filming DR Who just decided to take a dump on the original fans and wrote something for the snowflake crowd.
the showrunners said no males were allowed to get the part, that should've told you something.
pure tokenism.
When a reviewer who starts off by saying they are not big fans of the show in the first paragraph,
Then they reveal their lack of knowledge and lack of interest. Quite openly stating they didn't watch it much, have only watched a couple of episodes now and..
Then praises it for it's political stance and gives it 9.5 out of 10 - you KNOW you are reading a political statement NOT a review of a TV show.
It could not in any logical or meaningful way be anything OTHER than a pure gender political statement
They actually tell you as much in the review.
How are these professional reviewers not clearly identified as sexist bigots themselves?
They fulfil all the criteria to the letter. Their identity politics based views are themselves the dictionary definition of bigoted and sexist.
They are the delusional types who effectively go "it doesn't count when I do it" pretty much, and then not even realizing that's effectively what they are doing either, so even if you try to call them out on it they just act like you're the delusional one making stuff up somehow. Brings an old saying to mind, about how the hardest ones to convince are the ones who are fooling themselves...
R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 2017
@Shawn Burke Didn't the TV movie make the 8th Doctor half human and allow him to resurrect dead companions with alarm clocks?
R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 1989
@Shawn Burkeoh, and did I mention Eric Roberts as the Master?
@Shawn Burke Really? He seems very bland in the TV Movie and Night of the Doctor
Shawn Burke You lost me during the second part of your comment (about the 8th Doctor)
@@MichaelM28 "and allow him to resurrect dead companions with alarm clocks?"
That pretty much should be possible, given the travelling through the universe part and all that. Casually ressurect beings to interrogate them, have companions die every 3 episodes or several times in a single episode being completely usual.
30% is too generous.she is the worst thing that happened to this show.
How about 28%?
27 and dropping
@@ianronin2003 25% now
@TJ Roelsma Wait what? Is chibnail leaving? never heard about it?
In all fairness, Jodie isn't the problem. It's the retards that control the show that are to blame for all of this.
Loved Doctor Who. But once they started TRYING to be woke, I hate it... The funny thing is, this show was already pretty "Progressive". Black companions, female, gay but THEY DIDN'T SHOVE IT IN YOUR FACE!!!! It was just part of the story!!!! Its sick what they have done now...
@Severin Dahl Maybe because we haven't really come all that far since? I don't care for shitty writing that's overtly cruel or blandly pushing one idea(cliche forms of "progressive" stuff that's more insulting than it is helpful), but sometimes I sit back and watch the anger surrounding stuff like an all-girl showing of Wonder Woman. The reactions and utter hatred. Something is done that's deemed "progressive" and people dig in their heels, grunt, and throw up their hands yelling, "Urgh, enough is enough!" It feels like it's gotten quite petty and tit-for-tat. Because one person is bringing up something, some counterpoint has to be brought up. Everyone's enjoying playing the victim one way or another. Outrage, outrage, outrage. It's really breaking down any motion. Some people trying to be progressive getting lambasted for a misstep or not being progressive enough. Some people trying to be slightly progressive and getting ripped to shreds for giving in to some agenda. It's all bullshit. We're not giving people enough credit for trying, and we're being complete dillholes to anything resembling change.
torchwood shoved gay in your face every episode. it was not relevant to the plot but the gay writer just had to do it.
I am female. I never wanted a female Doctor... I don't want to BE the Doctor, I wanted to travel WITH the Doctor. But I was also uncomfortable with Missy regenerating into a woman. I want to be able to recognize the character... The Doctor is supposed to stay, at HIS CORE, the same person. I just don't think it works. Men and women are very different. If they wanted a female Time Lady, bring back Romana or someone new (not River). But honestly... Why would you ruin a beloved character for your stupid politics. I loved Nine and Ten. But the thing is... Nine and Ten had some of the silliest episodes... Didn't matter: I was deeply invested in their stories. I usually loved 11 (when he didn't cross the line for a joke) because despite how puppyish Matt Smith was, he could turn on a dime... I even grew to like 12 (when he wasn't a total jerk) because he was able to bring out the Doctor's interior world to the surface. I like each one for something different... but I could always see The Doctor because enough remained.
I felt the show did 4 things to shoot itself in the foot: 1. the 50th anniversary was half good and half a slap in the face to many fans (I was upset about Rose not really showing up to interact with Tennant, McGann and Eccleston being pushed aside for John Hurt's War Doctor, Clara being the "savior" of the day, and Gallifrey's destruction being undone) 2. under-develop annoying companions and then pretend they're perfect, 3. overgrow plots to a massive scale, and 4. Turn time lords into females in an attempt to "get woke" and pander to SJW stories.
Each revival Doctor made sure to highlight that version's fatal flaw. 9 was angry and dealing with ptsd. 10 hid his pain under a goofy attitude. 11 was arrogant and absent minded. 12 was bogged down by dumb shit lack face blindness and a sudden lack of empathy, but eventually they settled on him just being an asshole. These flaws were all demonstrated, commented upon, and made into plot points. One of 10 sayings was "I'm always alright." 11's arrogance bit him in the ass at least once a season. An episode hardly went by without the Doctor being a prick and having someone comment on it.
What is 13's flaw? Hell, what is 13's character? She's the Doctor, but all the moments that would usually be dedicated to telling us more about what make the Doctor unique instead went towards telling us she's a woman. Which is all that makes her unique.
Traumatized Veteran, Sad Clown, Absentminded Professor, Grumpy Scot, Woman.
Having a woman Doctor could have worked. But they forgot to give her a character.
At least it makes sense why The Master became Missy since he steals bodies rather than regenerating. And Missy is extremely entertaining. I would have loved it if they'd have given Missy her own show as a female Doctor type instead of making The Doctor into a fucking trans-sexual, and it even looked like they were going in that direction at the end of the Capaldi season but they fucked that all up.
ohifonlyx33 I don’t agree with the fact that they are all the same person but build on each other and had a connect but unique fatal flaw. His essence is the fact he has no essence but builds about himself and in that way represents the greatest ideal of freedom.
Un-destroying Gallifrey pithed most of the Doctor's pathos. I agree about the overblown plots. Look at the one fans like most: Blink. And I think that if you did a study of which Doctor Who episodes people like most, you'd find that the SJW's love the big "save all of the potential multiverse" episodes while the rest of the world prefers stories where individual characters matter.
I also hated the way the show totally shafted Rory's dad. They should have turned him into a companion. He was a more interesting character than most. As was Donna's grandfather.
How dare this toxic fandom not like what we tell them to like
I know right?! Racists
I think the BBC know the series was tripe .....but just believe their own hype and are sadly committed to another series....oh dear.
@@MarkusScott1977 seriously? can you say what that was?
Sorry but when the hell was Doctor Who ever just for white males?
This show has always diverse but this season was absolutely horrific, the writing OMG!!! the writing has been the reason this season has been the worst season ever.
Scooby McDooby
I’m not disagreeing but it was never made solely for white males I started watching in 1989 I was 7 and always remember diverse characters white, black, multiple ethnicity and genders.
So I’m not sure why Jodi has stated the show is not just for white males, my argument is I’ve never seen it just for white males at all.
I like Jodi but I think the writing has been horrific and that’s stopped her from truly testing herself in the role of the doctor.
When SJWs talk about improving or correcting something you can always be sure they know absolutely nothing about the source material. They come in with blind assumptions made in the most basic of observations. They've never watched any Who, they just see men in the role on the series covers and that's as far as they go. They also know when something has a primarily male audience then it must be removed. Men can't have things that are suited to them.
Do this just bullshit that people were trying to push an agenda say. I'm black and a matter of fact I've been black my whole life. I've never once needed someone in a show to be black or man to identify with the fucking show. Shit my favorite fucking cartoon character was a panther a blue goddamn Panther. My second favorite character was a female squirrel and Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. I I have never once needed to see someone like me in a show to identify with the show. I do believe but having representation does matter. Cuz I also remember back in the day when you turn on TV and the only time you saw black faces when you watch Cops. So I do have a feeling that thing positive role models that look like you does matter. But that has more to do with media negatively stereotyping people thin making the lead character of an established franchise a black man or a woman.
tenth planet the final story of the first doctor had the first black astronught on it, and earlier that same doctor a female school teacher took down a lovecraftian horror. They praise this series for being so "diverse" and "empowering" while it condicends and insults its audiance while claming what came before was rasist and sexist. Shows they didnt even watch dr who and know nothing about it.
@@mcribprime6594 Because Jodi is SJW. To them, everything is for white CIS males.
The only Box the Doctor should have is a Police Box !!!
brilliant.
Lol!
I see what you did there....... ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Anyone remember the show Community?
Remember Abed saying how there was a female Inspector Space-Time and nobody liked her?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers....
Back to 29% again. Woohoo
It literally wont let me leave a review. But it let's me leave a review for everything else...
DEADSCHOOLED ya I tried to do it too,a few days ago it wouldn’t allow me to rate it as it didn’t show in search results I don’t have a rotten tomatoes account but I wanted to create one just to punch this bs
The BBC have handled this gender change in the most cack-handed way imaginable. Instead of playing it down and making the character of the Doctor consistent despite a gender change they have made it all about identity politics. The outfit she wears, the glass ceiling trailer, the obvious and patronising scripts, the 'villians'. And in promo material they have gone all out to score points with the feminist lobby; a book cover featuring the 12th Doctor wearing a 'future is female' sweater, Jodies inane interviews where she creates inaccurate assumptions about classic Who's limited appeal to girls and to its celebration of the male gaze, the fact that the female production force behind series 11 is presented as an advancement rather than a snub to meritocracy, it goes on and on. And there's now a book 'The Women Who Lived - a celebration of only the females of Doctor Who - with illustrations by only female artists. (Were these artists informed that their names would be used for an elitist political agenda?)
Why are the BBC so cucked to the bullying feminist lobbyists? They aren't sane. You don't take orders from lunatics. This is the sort of thing the real Doctor would be ridiculing. Chibnall, Whittaker and the BBC have totally betrayed the ethos of Doctor Who, and the easily hoodwinked are going on about 'change and progress'. Theses paid critics are fools who clearly know nothing about what the character of the Doctor always fights against. If they think that 'it's about time' we can be sure they haven't a clue who Verity Lambert, Delia Derbyshire or Paddy Russell were.
This is the issue, missed by most. Dr. Who is a time lord, so in a sense gender is NOT the issue. The problem is all the PC baggage it comes with this. I was willing to give this female Dr. Who a go, but alas, it's shit.
I challenge anyone who enjoys Jodie Whittaker's portrayal of the doctor to watch series 1-5, or just any one of those series, and then tell yourself she matches up in any way.
Why did you not include capaldi
@@Mcdude02 because while capaldi is an amazing Doctor and an amazing actor who takes the role to his heart, his series was the beginning of the sjw infestation. His stories aren't nearly as bad but they aren't that great either.It's not his fault. If he had been given the same storylines the first three doctors had he might have been the greatest out of all of them.
It's actually an additional crime done to him.
Yeah, yeah, Whittaker is a mediocre actor at best with not nearly the charisma, presence, wisdom, stature, wit, or generosity to play a Time Lord alien 1000s of years old with great experience and reflection. Sure, fine, whatever. And the writing in the show is self-contradictory, characters acting one way in one episode and another way in another, themes introduced only to be revised or peter out or vanish entirely as the season waned along, the Doctor presented as a bumbling fool who needlessly puts her companions ("fam") in harm's way or is utterly irrelevant during the entire episode and ultimately by series end commits blunders that result in the death of entire planets of life and people. Right, OK, I'll grant you that too. And also that the representations of actual historical events were flagrantly erroneous and ignorant, taking liberties well beyond artistic license by presuming in sheer cognitive dissonance to be more accurate than the truth. Or the browbeating, insultingly patronizing political pandering and lecturing that thrust and punctuated its way jarringly into episode after episode, acting as if the audience not only is a bunch of clueless dweebs who would call Nazis humanitarians if they weren't constantly struck with a ruler on the back of the head, but also as if social equality and opposition to racism and cruelty and discrimination weren't ALREADY A CULTURAL NORM IN THE MAJORITY OF THE NATIONS IN WHICH THE SHOW AIRED. Sheesh! Enough already! I'll grant it all!!!
But Doctor Who is a girl now! Isn't that neat!!!!? Isn't that enough to ignore everything else!!!??? I'll buy that for a dollar!
What baffles me, as well as you, is how they connect "Great Franchise - Lots and lots of Fans" with "We need to change everything about it". I don't know, maybe they all have terminal brain cancer or something, because for any logical person this doesn't compute.
It is baffling but I think the clue to their thinking is 'lots and lots of fans'. It's become a vehicle to them to reach a lot of people and they rely on fans inability to let go of something that was once good and meant something to us. If it is not this deliberate then that really is baffling.
Ask a Star Trek fan about STD. Different universe, same shit. :(
Your terminal brain cancer theory sounds like wishful thinking to me.
Can't agree with those negative reviews more. The hate for White Males the writers, cast, and the BBC are spouting is disgusting, palpable, and pure racist. Every time they open their mouths, write articles, and scream and virtue signal it's like vomit. The tomato-meter's going down because the SJW's had their fun, ruined the show and moved on. They don't care, they were never loyal fans. And yes, grown men AND Women will complain. Doctor Who is hardly a child's show when they want to constantly focus on someone's sexual preference, and remember all the little sexual innuendoes peppered throughout the years? But the SJW's love to throw that remark back at people. If that's all it is, a "kid's show," then why are they so smug and arrogant and desperate to change it? Leave it alone. Probably because they're already hard at work indoctrinating children anyway and DW is a huge way in for them. And let me see if I got this right, they're allowed to destroy a beloved fandom with their weak, agenda-driven stories, but when fans like the Nerdrotic Channel express discontent, they are shamed and silenced? This censorship is happening too much and far too often now. They can all take a hike!
And you mentioned ASTRID! I loved her! (sniffles.)
@@Lee_B77 Thanks! This goes beyond left-right politics. They're trying to control people's very lives and THOUGHTS. Seriously, enough is enough.
@@Lee_B77 Exactly. The entertainment value's been sucked out of so many things.
@@Lee_B77 To be honest I'm not a huge fan of those, only the originals, but I've seen a lot, and enough to know exactly what you're talking about and how they've changed. This Star Trek Discovery is acting like it's the first time ever they had a woman and a black Captain. They never check back in history, because they're too busy trying to rewrite it. hello, Janeway? Sisko! Both On 2 superior show where nothing felt forced. And then they'll have young people believe that there were never any positive, strong female lead roles in Sci Fi. Give me a break.
@@Lee_B77 Lee B Looks like my comment got off somehow, but you're right, since the beginning Star Trek did that. I guess you can watch at least an episode of Discovery and make up your own mind, but from what i'm seeing online, it's horrible.
Best comment I read today !
Jodie's costume says it all. It makes her look like a children's television presenter! It's just all so wrong-headed, on top of all the PC agenda stuff.
Fluff Mungous What? The 6th and 7th doctor had more child-like costumes. The doctor has always worn something ridiouculus.
You see a guy in a clown costume no big deal. You see a 1ton grizzly in a clown costume and its a different matter altogether. All the prior doctors had a presence and magnitude that spoke in spite of their appearances. Not with this bitch tho
The outfit is from Dragon Ball.
I started watching the doctor years ago but didn't become a whoviain until I began watching it with my son.
I was excited to see a change in the show as the ratings were dropping. But I desperately miss David Tennant. Especially after this. Jodie Wittaker can't act and she only got the job bc she dated Chibnall.
I think it's a pity that they are butchering the Who I know and love. But what pisses me off THE MOST is the agenda. Why? Why shove a political message no one wants to see. These ratings are BS!
Jodie Wittaker is a great actress, you haven't seen enough of her work. Peace.
Dr Who always had an agenda, take a look at some of the old Jon Pertwees for Womens rights, Workers rights, and anti automation story lines. The biggest issue for me with the latest series hasn't been the female doctor the companions or the agenda it's been that for me the stories have mostly been dull.
@@roydickel9183 At last a free thinker! I also agree the "stories" weren't the best and there has been worse. My anger comes from the blatant belittlement of women in general.
Im 60.... have always snuck a viewing of the Doc . Loved its quirky sci fi unique narrative. This show is just political crap. Preaching the cultural Marxist mem. I hate it now. And feel like I've lost friend.
Star trek discovery inserted SJW crap, ruined it.
Star wars inserted SJW crap, ruined it.
Doctor who inserted SJW crap, ruined it.
There's definitely a pattern there.
Don't forget comics, video games, and anime.
Social justice is not a problem. Star Trek TOS was FULL of it. If you didn't understand that, you didn't watch Star Trek. Roddenberry's vision of Earth was a total communist utopia. Money no longer exists. People share free and unlimited resources. Everyone work for free, solely for the improvement and enjoyment of life.
The Next Generation's first couple seasons dealt with woman's rights, marriage and gender equality, definition of life, and many progressive social justice topics. Being SJW is actually at the core of Star Trek philosophy, a better future of universal equality.
The problem is not with the message, is with the skillfulness of way the message is being delivered.
@@trulahn I don't think you understand the definition of 'social justice' - It has nothing to do with justice everything to do with virtue signalling.
The reason that "the experts" like this better then actual viewers, is the same reason Star Trek Discovery had the same problem is the same reason that the last (female centric) Ghostbusters exists , etc. Our betters will give us what they want, and don't really care what we believe/want. Try watching almost any TV program.
Yes indeed Scott.
We are in the wrong. We are guilty of wrongthink. It is incumbent on them, they see it as thier goal and almost responsibility to educate or re educate us into rightthink.
Then of course, everyone would be on board and would LOVE the programming they deemed correct for us.
I seriously do now get the distinct impression that many now really in all seriousness believe something along those lines.
Well, the proper thing to do is to punish these companies by not buying their stuff until they learn. Get Woke, go broke.
Honestly I liked Discovery. They wrote a good interesting story which happened to have a female lead. Not like DW where the show runner only auditioned women for the main role that had previously been a man. Should've auditioned both men and women. Also, apparently the show runner doesnt went Jodie to watch any previous Doctor Who... how are you supposed to take over a role when you dont know anything about what has come before?
DeadPixelz Discovery didn’t ‘just happen’ to have a female lead - there was never any consideration that Burnham would be male. But that’s not even close to why a lot of people dislike Discovery - the show was just not reminiscent of Star Trek as the hopeful vision of the future and instead focused on being ‘dark and gritty’ like so much other sci-fi.
Remember to always put at least 1 full star on RT, people are saying they ignore 1/2 stars to cancel out the troll votes
They also ignore 1 star reviews - minimum 1 1/2 stars to be counted, which it doesn't deserve.
Frankly, adults shouldn't read the Daily Mail either.
I use the Daily Mail to line the Budgies cage.
The Guardian is good for blocking toilets
Kids shouldn't either. Propaganda is bad for the developing brain.
It’s jan 6 and it’s now 23%
I was a HUGE Doctor Who fan for MANY years, and I gave Jodie a serious chance...because after all for me the Doctor being a woman was not out of the realm of possibility within the lore of Doctor Who, and I don't mind female leads, they can even be really awesome. But like so many other people have commented, I really hated it and could not watch more than the first 3 episodes.
My reasons were that it's become an SJW virtue signaling show with just a touch of sci-fi thrown in...and the sci-fi is not that much of a sci-fi.
I was really disappointed that they went that route. Instead of writing a good sci-fi show for the sake of writing a good sci-fi show, they went the route of preaching their personal beliefs to try and push those personal beliefs on everyone else.
I have lost count at the number of TV series I've stopped watching for similar reasons. Nowadays practically every show has a gay/lesbian/bisexual/trans/LGBTQ character and usually more than 1 and it's a main part of the storyline. That is a HUGE turn off. Not the fact they have gay/lesbian/bisexual/trans/LGBTQ characters, but that their sexuality becomes at least secondary (large secondary) part of the storyline in an attempt to push they beliefs on to everyone else...as if the people in holywood are somehow smarter, better and morally superior to everyone else (yes that same holywood that has a HUGE problem with sexual assault, sexual harrassment, pedophilia and child sex traficking)
I understand the idea of cheesy "statement scenes," but one of your complaints is "practically every show has an LGBTQ character" and it's apart of the main storyline. I mean...hetero romance is seen throughout almost all genres and often becomes secondary. Dudes with love interests, girls with love interests. Widows and widowers grieving and slowly finding love again. Sex and sexual attraction is rampant throughout shows, but when it's one or two gay people in there, it's like, "*Geez*, enough already, I get it,"? I mean I've seen the argument of "Yeah, I don't care if they're that so long as it's on the side." Hardly mentioned, hardly seen...easy to forget or ignore. How else do we normalize the concept? LGBTQ people have the same lives and go through the same things. But they don't wanna see it anywhere in their television and movies?
What I don't like is one-dimensional characterization and overt stereotyping. Don't put them there only for the sake of them being LGBTQ. They're complex human beings and should still be treated as such, not used as a "daily dose of social commentary" mouthpiece per episode. The Orville's got a gay couple that have a kid, but them being gay isn't all they are. They play other roles and do other things and have character. But their relationship isn't ignored either and *shouldn't* be. Episodes come up where stuff happens in their relationship, same as with straight couples. Shows should be able to handle LGBTQ people and their relationships the same way they handle heteronormative relationships, and it shouldn't be concerning that it's in more shows. The thing is...I don't know if a whole 'statement period" is necessary given the fact that LGBTQ people being represented at all still tends to ruffle feathers. Most changes and things that happen in humanity tend to have "statement periods." Hell, some people still think pregnancy should be frickin' hidden and that people wearing belly-hugging dresses is too much of a statement.
@@ar47yrr4p Lol Your ignoring their existence doesn't make them go away. Their lifestyles aren't any more dangerous than a heterosexual's. it's truly outrageous how you want to brush people off and hide them away simply because they don't line up with you.
You make being gay or bi the exception yet you clearly still have problems with them given your distaste in seeing them in shows. The LGBT community is estimated to make up roughly 4%, though the number could be larger or smaller since actual recording of numbers is relatively new and the fact that there's still so much fear surrounding actually coming out. The percent seems low, but the U.S. has a large population. Conservatively speaking, there are at least eight million people in the U.S. alone that identify as LGBT, and that's lowballing. Millions of people that exist and deserve representation. They aren't over-represented at all. Representation as a whole is a complete ball of wax. If we wanna start getting into the nitty-gritty of representation in media then quite a few other groups are under represented if you are trying to go for some sort of mathematical fairness...but talking about race representation gets people just as angry and butthurt.
Their existence is not an affront to yours nor is their presence shoving anything down your throat. It's disappointing you seem to have such a strong reaction to seeing people living slightly differently than you. "Oh god, they're hugging! Why must they do this to me!" Live your life. They're living theirs. No reason to get so bent out of shape.
@@Rainsofchange And there you have it....your bias is preventing you from seeing anything that you don't want to see. So much so that you've now labelled me as someone who has a distate or even hatred for LGBTQ. Seems you've completed forgotten my original post that you responded to in order to be able to set up your straw men to tear me down.
First off, no one here is ignoring their existence...but yes, their lifestyles are VERY much more dangerous than a heterosexual's, and there's plenty of data that proves that to be the case, but if you just want to ignore that then you are not being nice to the LGBTQ community because you are perpetuating something that hurts them.
And I'm glad you managed to find the 4% figure, I was hoping you'd do that otherwise you'd ignore it when I said if they are just 4% and you want fair representation then why are they represented in easily over 50% of TV shows and movies? Shouldn't they only make up about 4% of characters in TV and movies? Why the need to oversaturate entertainment with their dangerous and in some cases sick, disgusting and perverted (I've seen those videos of grown men dressing up like women and fawning and lusting over the 8 year old and 11 year old boys who dress up like women and dance provocatively...if you try and tell me that there is nothing wrong with grown men dressed as women fawning over 8 year olds and 11 year olds dressed up like women then I can't help you because you are just as sick and depraved as they are)
Also, race is totally different than LGBTQ. Race is something you are born with and cannot change. LGBTQ (aside from being gay or bi) is a mental disease.
As for getting bent out of shape, you seem to be the one getting bent out of shape because I DARE to say the truth that you are not willing to accept.
And as I've already stated in my first post (and you obviously chose to ignore), I don't mind LGBTQ in my TV shows and movies ...as long as it's not EVERY FUCKING show...and as long as it's not part of the storyline. I'm reminded of The Return of the Jedi movie (from way back when)...the scene in the desert with Jabba and Luke about to be sacrificed to that pit ... it was mentioned by George Lucas (or someone else, I don't recall who) how that scene cost a lot of money to set up, the beautiful background scene that cost them lots of money yet they didn't dwell on the background scene or focus on the background scene, it was just there and it enhanced the story. Had they focused on that background in an attempt to say "look at the beautiful scenery we spent so much money on" it would have taken away from the movie (and you see that in some B movies). Same thing goes here for LGBTQ stuff in TV and film...don't make it a focus of your film because that ruins the story.
And finally, the reason that there are so many TV shows and movies that have LGBTQ in them nowadays is because holywood is virtue signaling. They think (and you do as well) that they are better than everyone else so they can and should dictate to people how they should live their lives and what's right and wrong, what's moral and immoral. This is the real reason for all the LGBTQ, but in reality they don't care about LGBTQ (that's why it's called virtue signaling).
Maybe you'll be able to understand some of this...but I'm not holding my breath. You've already shown yourself to be a disgusting human being who is willing to let 8 year old kids be exploited by sick depraved individuals!
@@ar47yrr4p Lol All this pontificating and contradiction. Saying you don't have a problem with them, but go on to say the exact opposite. Keep writing yourself into the ground my friend. Stay angry.
@@Rainsofchange So I was correct in assuming you wouldn't understand what I said...either that or you are purposely ignorant, but whatever!
But OMG lol..I find it hilarious (and somewhat interesting) that many people that I've had "discussions" with over the years will say that I am angry...as if making the other person angry is a win when it comes to debates/discussions! That's a really childish mentallity. First of all, why is anger a bad thing? Why is anger in this situation a bad thing? And note that the anger here is only you saying I'm angry, the fact of whether I actually am angry or not is irrelevant to you because all you need is the accusation for you to feel like you've "won the argument" (and note, it's a "win the argument" tactic as opposed to trying to be right).
But anger can be a good thing. Properly directed anger can make good change. Now misplaced anger can be bad.
So, tell me, this anger that you are telling me I have, is it a misplaced anger (and why do you think that) or is it a properly directed anger (and why do you think that)? Could it be about you supporting a sick and disgusting lifestyle that puts young kids in serious danger (go ahead and pretend that doesn't happen, but if you actually cared about kids you wouldn't ignore this)?
People who praise Missy must've never experienced the original DelGado's Master.
I love both Missy and Delgado's Master.
or to McQueen master
This reflects the different background of critics. If you look at the political position of commentators and critics on the mainstream media, they are almost always strongly of a liberal persuasion. This means they will give extra "brownie points" to a movie or a TV series simply and only because the characters are part of an "oppressed minority" or the subject is about the same minority. They often forget their role is to supply an unbiased assessment of a movie or TV series, remembering to stress the entertainment value of the production first and last.
Bleeding cool just had an article on a fizzling Christmas tradition of Doctor Who. I commented and got deleted within a day, because I didn't drink my WHO koolaid before responding. BUT the hateful responses I received to my statement are still there
Bleeding cool is a leftist pit.
Yes they are. As I found out the hard way
It's been shit since Moffat.
It would've been better if Capaldi's Doctor finally died but able to reunite with his granddaughter Susan who's now a Time Lady and gives her the TARDIS. Then Susan takes up the Doctor name in honor of her grandfather. Jodie would've fit so much better as a new Time Lord instead being the newest incarnation of a long running character.
Or shit, Missy pulled a face turn at the end of last season. The Doctor never ended up saving the people from the Cybermen. Missy died, but she died by the elevator, and we already saw that the Cybermen can bring people back from the dead with worse injuries. So say that the Cyberman brought back Missy and converted her, only for her to regenerate and defeat the Cybermen. The Doctor is dead because she failed to help him, so she takes his name.
@Severin Dahl In this case, because the audience wouldn't accept a new Doctor if they knew the old one was still alive out there.
@Severin Dahl What has you confused?
Loved this, "If You needed the change, were you ever a fan before?"
Great question. The answer is no, by the way.
I just watched the Day of the Doctor special again on iPlayer and it was just wonderful, great story , great acting , funny ,dark , amazing! Then I accidentally clicked on a current episode and OH MY GOD ! flat , boring, no real plot , who the hell at the BBC thought this was up to par to be called DR WHO ? 😠
I’m in a Facebook group that’s rallying to give 10 stars to fight this score. It’s absurd. Why do they want to protect a polished turd?
Because they can't accept that they are wrong
You should probably ask them why they want to.
Although I have the feeling if you did, you wouldn't be a member of the group anymore
Doctor Stew Because the cause trumps anything else. Quality and good storytelling be damned...
"Turd polish by Doctor Poo ....
.... because you're not worth it "
I can see the merchandising really going down the shitter :)
Because they are political/religous followers. Is that a Doctor Who Facebook group or people who only just found out they liked the show because it's staring a woman?
I find it hilarious they use the whole "oh it;s just getting bad reviews because the companion are people of colour" argument. Do they forget that Martha existed? One of the most popular companions ever.
Martha was one of my favorites. The current lot are dull.
I refuse to watch the new doctor.
I watched as much as I could stand, so I could legitimately analyze it... but it was just so bad, after the 5th episode I couldn't stand it any more and gave up.
It burns as badly as STD and Soy Wors now.
SJWs really do ruin EVERYTHING!
I wish there was a negative star on Rotten Tomatoes. Honestly, I absolutely despise Series 11. Why can't people take constructive criticism. And then people in the fandom who then bully others who don't share their positive views on the show. It makes me feel sick to be part of the Doctor Who fandom. I'm going to just ignore the new series and everything that comes after it. I miss it when people wanted to do cool stories, with scary monsters, a good Doctor and interesting characters. But instead we get a crap tooth man with the power of a god. Who is shot in the foot and defeated by a bus driver. Companions that don't have any impact on the plot and just stand around looking bored while the worst Doctor ever gives a lecture on how she is being oppressed. Dull stories with barely any plot, only aimed at pushing an agenda that discriminates against White men. It truly hurts. It died with Twice Upon a Time. It stopped there for me. I would do anything to stop myself from watching Series 11.
Iv given up on it. My time is put towards DC shows. They dont take themselves seriously and just entertain
Nothing wrong with being a "True Who" in the face of Feminist poison...
"Constructive Criticism" usually implies a constructive element instead of just what you hate.
You're saying you can't be a Whovian and a Feminist? Are you Terrance Dicks? @@ZGuy0fSci
quote " This show cannot survive on UK ratings alone. " The show will survive, but the lead actress and the producer won't. Companions are too ethnic
I will return to Doctor Who when Jodie regenerates and I will cry tears of joy
She will regenerate into another woman. The Doctor will never be male again.
SammEater As long as she can act, isn’t up her own ass with agendas and can actually play the Doctor, then I’m fine
Same.but I’m not too hopeful of that day ever coming
Her replacement will probably be a black disabled lesbian non-binary dragon-kin. Once a show sips the poison of SJW based identity politics the only way is a downwards spiral of ever more blatant and ridiculous virtue signalling. And no matter how hard they try, they'll never win over those who see it for the bullshit it is, and they'll also never be progressive enough for the rabid SJW's they're trying to appease.
Just look at that cancerous cartoon known as Steven Universe for an example of a show that tries to appease these weirdos. The show is hot progressive garbage and propaganda aimed at corrupting the minds of children. Non the less I've seen a two hour long critique of it by an SJW on UA-cam who calls himself Lily Orchard where it's basically him ripping on it endlessly for not being progressive enough, not handling the LGBT elements just the way he would have liked, calling elements of it 'problematic', you know the score. Writers and animators on the show have been hounded off of it and doxxed by the rabid fanbase for not passing their draconian SJW purity standards. The fanbase drove one girl who was drawing fan art inspired by the show to be hospitalised after she attempted suicide due to their relentless online harassment of her because the fan art she was creating didn't meet their stringent SJW rules (something I'm convinced it's impossible to do anyway due to the vagueness and often contradictory nature of many of their rules).
The people DW is now trying to attract are these same sick and depraved individuals and it will be the cause of DW's humiliating downfall. A real shame really.
I think the goodwill of fans has been squandered @@SammEater
I like how Community predicted this would happen with their version of Dr.Who.
Subscribed! I didn't know you had a comic shop in SF. Respect from up here in Sactown, the world's sci-fi capitol per capita. :) One thing I've heard is that the UK ratings for the current series is actually including views on the BBC's iPlayer and DVRs 28 days after the initial broadcast whereas in the recent past few seasons/series, they counted only up to 7 days beyond the broadcast. That's totally moving the goal posts on top of getting the artificial bump in ratings from the initial broadcast due to the show now being televised in the much less competitive time period on Sunday - instead of Saturday - back on the BBC proper. I have no idea how BBC America is tallying everything up. It has to be a bunch of jiggery-pokery considering BBC America is barely even televising ChibWho in comparison to MoffatWho. It's hardly even on anymore. You're more apt to find old reruns of The X-Files or Start Trek: The Next Generation being televised on BBC America than ChibWho. One could infer from that that AMC must not be very happy with their investment in BBC America considering they bought the majority stake in it while Matt Smith was generating the highest ratings for NewWho on BBC America back then. If they keep this up, I suspect "BBC America" will become "AMC2" or "Viceland 2" or something that receives better ratings. I'd laugh if "NewWho" ended up on PBS [KQED and KVIE for NorCal] like ClassicWho all of those years ago...
The best thing about this season is it’s given me the motivation to watch Dr Who from the beginning. And you know what? Barbara Wright is a million times better Jodi. Amazing women have been part of Dr Who from the beginning.
To those who care...I’m a Jewish woman and I’m not white. I’m tired of the sexist, racist, bigoted SJW media pretending people like myself don’t exist. I don’t like what’s been done with Dr Who because they’ve killed everything that made the show great.
Barbara was awesome
I stopped watching this shit 4 years ago, its more entertaining reading what everyone is saying about it, time for the Doc to be struck off 😵
The SJW writing has been going since Capaldi. It only went into overdrive with Whittaker.
I mean, you missed heaven sent... Probably the best doctor who has ever been.
@@micahmahaffey5919 I agree there are some bad Episodes due to PC crap but Peter Capaldi is just a brilliant actor and delivers such a brilliant performance that I still found season 8-9 very entertaining and season 10 at least not a waste of time (exept the doctor falls which was brilliant)
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 exactly, I feel like the BBC was forcing their agendas but Moffat and Capaldi did their best and still had some brilliant moments,
See, this is the really annoying attitude. “I haven’t watched it in four years, so it should be taken off air so nobody gets to enjoy it”. Fuck you man, fuck you.
It's not made for you, it's for children. They said this about games, they said this about comics, they said this about Thundercats, She-Ra etc. What they should have said is: _"Our propaganda (identity politics) isn't meant for you, it's meant for your kids."_
Decades ago Anita Sarkeesian said: _"Everything is sexist, racist, phobic, and you have to point it all out."_ She also said that you can't just inject ONE social justice ☭ cause into media, you need to inject all causes in all media so people can't escape it.
And that's what happening right now. The movie industry, the music industry, the gaming industry, the comics industry, silicon valley, banks they are all forcing everybody to accept their narratives and if you don't they'll call you Far/Alt Right Nazi crybabies... just because you're defending your hobbies and entertainment that don't involve real world's problems (escapism, power fantasies are not allowed anymore thanks to Neo Marxist Post Modern Intersectionality)
Even if they inject social justice in all mainstream media we can boycott all of it and enjoy indie media instead.
Decades ago?
@@pendulousphallus Not sure what you are asking.
@@TheMegamanx1978 A decade is ten years, and decades would be at least twenty years ago. She didn't say that decades ago.
Decades ago huh...? Your rant is as idiotic as the new Doctor Who. There's literally no such thing as "Neo Marxist Post Modern Intersectionality". You're just stringing words together.
It sucks because I do agree that the new Dr. Who is bad, but pointing it out as a product of cultural brainwashing by communist overlords is nonsensical and basically some conspiracy nutjob shit. You are detached.
When are the feminists & their sjw/npc friends going to support Dr. Who? I mean truly support financially, by viewing, reviewing etc... These people wreck fandoms, then leave. Buying one t-shirt, or Tardis isn't gonna do it!!
Stephanie B Agreed. Crazy world. Take care.
@@johndean8944 Agreed! And I wish you the best in 2019!!
First. Its bad when the companions are more entertaining than the Doctor. While it's getting more views than last season, the viewers are not liking the show much. Its ok to give it some episodes for her to develop, Peter to me wasn't very good in the first few episodes, it took him a while to fit. Sadly she hasn't fit yet, she hasn't developed an unique personality and the season is done. She is a bad fit for a Doctor. Now imagine if Missy wasn't in the show and was the new Doctor. THAT would have been a great female Doctor, not Jodie.
Bring back Eccleston
goddamn, it is NOT a children show. its an adult show that kids can watch
Exactly! Maybe it started off that way 56 years ago, but it's certainly not one today. Not with all the death, destruction, and cheeky sexual undertones, not to mention the constant hammering of everyone's sexual orientation into viewers. Big deal. We don't care what you do in your bedroom. We want to see fun adventures and aliens more than anything.
As of 11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time on December 26, 2018, series 11 of Doctor Who has dropped another percentage point to 29%. And yet, the media continues to try to convince the viewers that series 11 was awesome.
I am a woman and I have not watched this new season of Doctor Who at all. Not interested. I quit watching because, I thought it was going to far putting a woman in. I knew it was for a SJ agenda and I am pretty sick of everything being offensive. I've been watching Doctor Who since I was 10 years old and now I am 50 so yeah. It has been a long time being a fan of a tv show. Not anymore!!
I'm totally with you, what's being put out as Dr Who is just rubbish with the Dr Who logo slapped on it.
I have a couple of female friends that hated the Doctor becoming a woman. They didn't really elaborate much but I think it sort of ruined a fantasy for them. The idea of being swept off their feet by a mysterious man and going on adventures. Don't think they fancy being swept of their feet by another woman.
@@nodak81 It is 2019, anything could happen.
"This is what happens when you turn your TV show into a cause" - dead on!
The funny thing about the "women are finally represented" argument is that they always have been, far more strongly than men. The idea with the companions is that they were meant to represent the viewer, they're human, they're always amazed by the mysterious doctor. They're the eyes through which the story is told. As the season progresses they become stronger and more accustomed to it all, they always develop fantastically. They ARE the main characters, the perspective characters, and they are almost always women!
Writers these days don't understand that there's a difference with writing in diversity naturally and forcing a cause. When you tailor the story around pushing an agenda then you ruin it and you won't have a strong *insert minority* character. Reminds me of a quote about Black Buffy, the show was already diverse and changing the race for no reason other than proving your wokeness, actually stops you from making a strong Black character cuz she's always going to be Black Buffy. She is just female Doctor Who, instead of just the Doctor because they gender swapped her for no reason other than sticking to the White man.
The news Rags have been playing this up as if this is the greatest thing since sliced bread...
Why do they lie to us???
It reminds me of those damage control articles from a couple of years ago about how girl Ghostbusters wasn't a failure. When is the sequel coming out?
I chuckled.
3:07 Well at least Jodie confirmed the “It’s about time” was meant in the exact way we all new it was... not like it could possible mean its about time for a new series of the show.
I watched the new season with hope, that hope dwindled every episode. Couldn't verbalize what it was but knew she just didn't have the same...... doctor'ness. This video and some of the viewer reviews (especially Clint S 5 minutes in) that really verbalized what I was thinking. Great video!
I stopped watching series 11 when i discovered a snail on my window that proved to be much more exciting.
It’s confirmed people, yesterday on the bbc they aired a modified version of the DW New Years trailer where after Graham asks if the monster has a name, they cut to the DW logo and you hear “EXTERMINATE”.
Can’t wait to see Chibb’s mess up the Daleks as well. :/
Maybe the Daleks finally win in this one?
I can't help but think that we have a and-then-she-woke-up episode headed our way....
I'm terrified that we will end up with the Daleks ready to destroy the world, but she will prevail simply by shaming and scolding them, then compare them to White Males
Daleks are just misunderstood because of discrimination and past oppressions. )
@@MarkusScott1977 It'd serve multiple purposes: 1) it'd make a reset easier and 2) the recovery of the real Doctor would make for a good show (or at least better than this season).
Id heard the products werent selling.
they will probably try to use the selling of the macra terror to up her score claming it was part of the new series rather than people buying classic who.
But anyway now fans will have a year to fester over a terrible first impresion, the very thing that helped kill the 6th doctor.
Season 12 will have to be dramatically better and fundamentally different right out of the gate, when it finally does arrive, or it really will be game over
The ratings for every season of Dr. Who are listed in Wikipedia. The fact is that season 11 of Dr. Who pulled in more viewers throughout the season than did season 10 or season 9. Viewership is the best determination of popularity.
Facts:
Season 11 of Dr. Who had an average of 6.10 million viewers per episode, ranging from 5.07 million viewers to 8.2 million viewers.
Season 10 of Dr. Who had an average of 4.04 million viewers per episode, ranging from 2.89 million viewers to 5.68 million viewers.
Season 9 of Dr. Who had an average of 4.52 million viewers per episode, ranging from 3.7 million viewers to 6.34 million viewers.
Gary just wanted to say that you hit the nail on the head on this episode segment.
Although I feel that the quality of show can come back to life and it's not dead and gone.
Unfortunately, we have to call it for the year 2018 that it was dead for this year. I hope that Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who can be provide in 2019, but I'm not holding my breath either.
A year plus until the next season...anyone want to place odds on whether it will actually even return? That is a lot of time for the BBC to come up with a reason to cancel it or have the actors embark on other (better) projects and just abandon the show altogether. My crystal ball says that they bail entirely and then try a complete reboot somewhere between 2023 and 2025.
Same, if they can't sell any merchandises they will be forced to accept that this season was a failure.
And since BBC won't give the right to anybody else, the series will be forced to stop until real fans decide to pick it up again one day, when the sjw movement will have died.
They needed someone like Tilda Swinton as The Doctor instead of Chibnall's mate.
@Shawn Burke the show can survive if it has the right team behind it and the right lead actor. Also, the show was cancelled last time but came back...so it shows that it is liked. They just need to sort this mess out first.
Joe Coverstone go watch the porno then if that is all you care about.
And the point I was making was if Tilda Swinton was the Doctor then for the first few episodes The Doctor would not know what to think...during the first episode when The Doctor looks in a mirror and see her reflection she can go, "Something is missing..." And then pulls out a pencil and draws a mustache on her face before carrying on as normal. Make it so the Doctor doesn't care and just be the lonely alien traveling through time helping out as she goes along but have fun with it. Eventually she realises she is a woman now and then that is it. Don't reference it again.
Joe Coverstone with the way the writing is now no. But with a better team and a better female actor yes.
As much as we all want Tilda Swinton and could do wonders in the role, an actor of that calibre won't be constrained by a television schedule and still considers the medium as slumming it on an artistic level.
J.C. Marshall you never honestly know. We have seen big actors take roles on the small screen more often now a days so it is not that much of a stretch that it could happen.
I mean Idris Elba has come back to do Luther again for the BBC for instance. And Benedict Cumberbatch so does a lot of small screen work as well as big screen films too.
It's so sad watching all my childhood classics being killed off by SJWs...
This is going to keep happening over and over, franchise after franchise, until audiences make a stand. I don't think most of us need to have it explained again - the facsimile of liberal progressiveness being pushed by studios as an easy back door into better PR and reviews (and they hope sales as well). We know these studios don't really believe in this stuff - behind the scenes they are all too happy to flex their corporate power to silence anybody who disagrees with them or threatens their dominance; the very antithesis of liberalism. Kathleen Kennedy is a great example. Poses as a liberal hero, but also fosters a reputation for firing anybody who doesn't bend to her will unequivocally and insults people who disagree with her on anything. Disney has been outted numerous times (the last time just a few days ago by journalist and director Kyle Newman) for threatening to revoke journalists' access to their screenings if they don't give them a positive review. Here in the UK, the BBC have a massive reputation for bad business practice, inequality, gender and racial pay gaps, and general anti-consumerism. All these people and companies behave more like tyrannical fascist elitists than liberal heroes. But they do it because it allows them to carry on with their lazy mentality of "whatever allows us to make maximum profit off of minimum effort". To take any other approach, would mean putting in effort, giving a damn, and actually hiring people who know what they are doing with these franchises rather than handpuppet after handpuppet, just there to offer themselves up to modern-day tyrants.
But again I must reiterate - this will keep happening until fans make a stand against it. You can't continue to criticize their creative direction whilst simultaneously giving them your money so that they can carry on. If you support them with your money and/or viewership, you concede any right to continue complaining (once you already know how bad it's going I mean - obviously you won't know beforehand. For instance, we weren't to know how bad it would get in Star Wars Ep8, but now that we do, we can't justly support Kathleen Kennedy's terrible, politically-fuelled direction going into Ep9, especially now she is on the precipice of being let go finally). If the fans can mount the unity and solidarity to do something about this, then we'll be able to secure something for the future of our favorite franchises, and stop more going this way.
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