GE2020 political debate: Question and answer session

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • In the second segment of the #GE2020 political debate on Wednesday (Jul 1), People's Action Party (PAP), Progress Singapore Party (PSP), Workers' Party (WP) and Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) candidates Vivian Balakrishnan, Francis Yuen, Jamus Lim and Chee Soon Juan took turns asking and answering questions in the second segment of the #GE2020 political debate.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 525

  • @joycelee5663
    @joycelee5663 4 роки тому +327

    We really need this man in Parliament! Voters of Sengkang pls send Jamus Lim into Parliament! Thks!

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому +9

      I agree with that as well so this man should be in Parliament so that singapore can become more stable and fair to other people.

    • @treepeenbawlz1934
      @treepeenbawlz1934 4 роки тому +13

      @@kennychua9201 PAP did practically nothing for Sengkang

    • @badboi888
      @badboi888 4 роки тому +3

      @@kennychua9201 HAHHAA. Stable? I don't think so.

    • @josephlim6934
      @josephlim6934 4 роки тому +8

      Good show by Jamus Lim.
      He knows his stuff!!!

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому +2

      @@treepeenbawlz1934 Yes i agree with that as well that why the voters need to think wisely before they vote but don't regret it after they have vote.

  • @limweimengadrian3288
    @limweimengadrian3288 4 роки тому +281

    No point holding such a talk where everyone had a very
    Iittle time to eleborate. It's irritating when the host says
    your time is up
    Your time is up
    Your time is up
    Rushing for? This concerning our future!!!

    • @jirelbyu
      @jirelbyu 4 роки тому +10

      thats so true

    • @user-ms1gf6ve7m
      @user-ms1gf6ve7m 4 роки тому +40

      Rubbish way of handling the programme. The questions and answers were interrupted before the core of the message could be delivered.

    • @snchoo6037
      @snchoo6037 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly!

    • @kingex3
      @kingex3 4 роки тому +3

      Because this is a limited time program

    • @nurainiain7761
      @nurainiain7761 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly. Time is up? We need more of these.

  • @FONGSC88
    @FONGSC88 4 роки тому +44

    Debate that started the lost of Sengkang

  • @SamueITan
    @SamueITan 4 роки тому +26

    It was really crazy watching this over and over again and realizing how Jamus, despite the lower time limit, was able to eloquently answers all topics and questions he can without fumbling.

    • @crux33
      @crux33 Рік тому +1

      Sadly is he all flash and hype, so far all these year he is nothing impressive at all

  • @kenneth.lim3390
    @kenneth.lim3390 4 роки тому +253

    Seriously, what is the ridiculous time limit for? They need rush off for dinner or something is it?
    People want to hear issues being discussed and answered, not watch some game show where everything is timed.
    This just opens the debate up to tricks that let the person asking asks a question that can't be properly answered within the time frame. End up people watching can't even hear the full story.

    • @tokking7836
      @tokking7836 4 роки тому +1

      That’s the whole idea. No need to go deeper.

    • @dionchua2227
      @dionchua2227 4 роки тому +7

      Have you not watched a debate?

    • @1ZZFE
      @1ZZFE 4 роки тому +8

      That's the more reason why we should get the PAP down and more Oppositions in for a more open and progressive and democratic Singapore society!

    • @XDLeadingLady
      @XDLeadingLady 4 роки тому +6

      Lol you clearly dont know what is a debate. And also if u want to hear issues being discussed in depth thats called parliament meeting.

    • @gparamaeswary7276
      @gparamaeswary7276 4 роки тому

      School debate. Got timing🤣

  • @Secretspy88
    @Secretspy88 4 роки тому +80

    This debate really warms the cockles of my heart

  • @bobbyobby1252
    @bobbyobby1252 4 роки тому +182

    90 seconds Ain’t enough to roast a chicken. If you get what I mean

  • @abdulkarimmohamedghouse5422
    @abdulkarimmohamedghouse5422 4 роки тому +50

    Jamus, you are the one who understand the actual issues facing Singapore, for example Seniors still working as gardeners, cleaner, drivers, Security (some can't even walk properly ) etc. Jamus I hope you will be elected to see and question the ruling government.👍👍👍

    • @vembayanselvaraju8371
      @vembayanselvaraju8371 4 роки тому +3

      Seniors working as cleaners or gardeners do not vote for PAP.....Workers Party will be doing a good job if they can help these seniors with better jobs, pay them higher

    • @munic3476
      @munic3476 4 роки тому

      ?????? It is easy to pin point. Solution?

    • @vembayanselvaraju8371
      @vembayanselvaraju8371 4 роки тому

      @@munic3476 don't worry these guys will come up with solutions...

    • @BeachBoi1000
      @BeachBoi1000 Рік тому

      Hire seniors as directors lor

  • @zhugeliang842
    @zhugeliang842 4 роки тому +219

    ok what all parties sit down and talk nicely no fight like taiwan parliament what..so we need more oppositions to go in to help us speak up!!! it’s totally healthy for all parties to sit down and discuss best solutions for sg..chee is getting matured

    • @kelele
      @kelele 4 роки тому +22

      I totally agree. Debating is NOT equivalent to arguing! Healthy debates from all parties are necessary in politics

    • @zhugeliang842
      @zhugeliang842 4 роки тому +7

      kelele i believed parties can all come together discuss and work better plans for sg..one party rule will destroy the whole system..multi parties government will be gd for sg future next 10 years..if wp do well they can take over pap in 10 years..

    • @MrLEECHINSOON
      @MrLEECHINSOON 4 роки тому +1

      Speak only, right? NCMP fits the role. Opposition can go Parliament to be NCMP.

    • @MrLEECHINSOON
      @MrLEECHINSOON 4 роки тому +3

      @Tan Tan Ah Chee, definitely score "high"..look at his hitting under the belt at Murali. Murali family affair about his son, he highlights for what? He is rejoicing at Murali unfortunate events. Do we need such a despicable Ah Chee in the Parliament? You decide

    • @megalaikannairam8319
      @megalaikannairam8319 4 роки тому +5

      @@MrLEECHINSOON he spoke the truth
      Pap also has done such to opposition,,,

  • @zhugeliang842
    @zhugeliang842 4 роки тому +294

    wp is strong ppl who don’t vote him in must be blind..he is sharp

    • @CCPLord
      @CCPLord 4 роки тому +12

      The is the first time i see him talk, he is sharp indeed. To draw comparison, i have seen Chan Chun Sing in action before. Jamus sharpness and speed reminds me of Chan.

    • @rrs2023
      @rrs2023 4 роки тому

      He joined wrong party

    • @rrs2023
      @rrs2023 4 роки тому

      Mark my words, he will be kickout soon.

    • @rrs2023
      @rrs2023 4 роки тому

      Should have join sdp

    • @zhugeliang842
      @zhugeliang842 4 роки тому +5

      Col sdp got lesser chance wp is now strongest opposition..why u think so what’s ur view on why he should join sdp?

  • @blessash7637
    @blessash7637 4 роки тому +81

    Why did Vivian say that he read Jamus’ manifesto and “actually to be honest with you, we could have written it”? Vivian has the last 5 years in office and his cheap shot was that “we could have written it”? Well for the last 5 years, they failed to write it. Vivian’s statement honestly has helped to illustrate what Workers’ Party stated clearly that there is an need to deny PAP a blank cheque.

    • @lynnkueh85
      @lynnkueh85 4 роки тому

      I dont know why he must say this too.

    • @darrellteo1269
      @darrellteo1269 4 роки тому +2

      @@lynnkueh85 he wants to copy his homework.

    • @meowmeow-uz4om
      @meowmeow-uz4om 4 роки тому +2

      it's a praise. PAP have the same thought as them .. just that they are focusing on other matters and not just what WP have manifested.

  • @sherwinh1661
    @sherwinh1661 4 роки тому +55

    This is a very healthy debate. such a refreshing session. We wish to see this happen in parliament too. Jamus was well spoken and smart

  • @1ZZFE
    @1ZZFE 4 роки тому +62

    At times like this, I'm so happy to see candidate like Jamus Jerome Lim of the WP to come into Singapore politicals. We need talents like him!!

  • @wongngeeyong7077
    @wongngeeyong7077 4 роки тому +20

    Wow! Well done Jamus Lim! You really KO PAP

  • @gohkimteck4097
    @gohkimteck4097 4 роки тому +6

    Let's stand together and be competitive for those age 40 and above like you Dr Vivian. I have already taken 40 percent pay cut to be able to survive, as a good leader, please lead by example.

  • @misoshiru6969
    @misoshiru6969 4 роки тому +260

    Dr Vivian accuses Dr Chee of taking cheap shots but quotes a Factually article that was published less than an hour before the debate. Now that is what I would call a cheap shot.

    • @megalaikannairam8319
      @megalaikannairam8319 4 роки тому +3

      Idiot pappy

    • @eyeswideshut8110
      @eyeswideshut8110 4 роки тому +8

      That's why I am honestly glad that he is our Foreign Minister dealing with all those International monsters out there.

    • @LKJSPH
      @LKJSPH 4 роки тому +8

      *SINGAPORE SHOULD PLAN FOR POPULATION OF 10 MILLION* www.businesstimes.com.sg/top-stories/singapore-should-plan-for-population-of-10m
      *'On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be.* The social space is as important.
      Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space.
      *He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.'*
      www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

    • @jameslim6865
      @jameslim6865 4 роки тому +15

      PAP is the largest contributor to falsehood in Singapore.

    • @duckpotatoes
      @duckpotatoes 4 роки тому +1

      @@LKJSPH but that wasn't said by heng swee keat

  • @asiacuisine4869
    @asiacuisine4869 4 роки тому +29

    Vivian Bala. Please answer your YOG and Indoor stadium over-budget. Where is meritocracy?!?

  • @benadebiz
    @benadebiz 4 роки тому +116

    It's a interesting debate, given 1.30min for each, it's totally insufficient. Not sure who and why its being defined such timing.

    • @JL-sw3sb
      @JL-sw3sb 4 роки тому +2

      The show must end on time before viewers switch channel.

    • @lynnkueh85
      @lynnkueh85 4 роки тому

      Exactly. This is not a contest. This is talking about our future. Why have a set timing?

  • @Aquaandplants
    @Aquaandplants 4 роки тому +47

    Greatly impressed by DR Lim. Well done

    • @chewdesmond5875
      @chewdesmond5875 4 роки тому +8

      If Lim Tean were also present, he would have grilled someone

    • @gala1684
      @gala1684 4 роки тому +5

      @@chewdesmond5875 Lim Tean too aggressive and he only wants to attack but not provide reasonable solutions.

    • @chewdesmond5875
      @chewdesmond5875 4 роки тому +1

      @@gala1684 I would named him the challenger.

  • @CarlJenkinson3
    @CarlJenkinson3 4 роки тому +112

    You can see how much respect Vivian had for Jamus. It's almost like he is trying to say WP took everything PAP had an improved it.

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +6

      ONe is a professor in economics , the other is .....

    • @jeremychan609
      @jeremychan609 4 роки тому +36

      no it is not respect. It is political play.
      Dr V is saying "WP's manifesto is not much different from PAP" - subtly inviting voters to vote PAP instead.
      I shall say that both parties are very different in the form of the origin, intent and execution of these policies. i.e. the heart

    • @CarlJenkinson3
      @CarlJenkinson3 4 роки тому +3

      @@jeremychan609 the same can apply. To vote for wp whose policies are people centric. Works both ways

  • @thedxdydz
    @thedxdydz 4 роки тому +80

    This debate just shows how skewed our institution is towards the incumbent .
    3x more speaking time than every opposition member ? Really?
    The fact that Jamus was able to communicate everything he needed and make such an impact in so limited time is even more impressive.

    • @MrLEECHINSOON
      @MrLEECHINSOON 4 роки тому +9

      PAP, one vs three Opposition, you called it skew towards the incumbent.. LOL

    • @Failtacularification
      @Failtacularification 4 роки тому +10

      @@MrLEECHINSOON Whatever you're high on, it seems to be working.

    • @eduardoking8402
      @eduardoking8402 4 роки тому +6

      How is that so? Everyone has about 1 min to ask a question and about 1.5 mins to answer it. Total time might overall be more for Dr Balakrishnan just because he is being queried by all 3 opposition members and he had to reply to all 3 of them. Perhaps the CNA should also have the opposition parties question each other to even out the total time, and make you happy. But I am not sure the opposition members would like that, as they will be squaring off each other, not just the incumbent. The approach CNA has taken in fact favours the opposition, as it does not allow the opposition to query each others policies.

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +2

      @@MrLEECHINSOON Skew in the sense he has more time and the final say. In any debate , the one who has the final say has the advantage. Is that not skewed?

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +1

      @@eduardoking8402 That's one point of view. Why can't everyone get the same questions and equal time for replies. That's part 1 . Then they can have a part where they can have a free debate with the moderator apportioning time for that.
      If you watched the American presidency primaries and election, all candidates have fair amount of time. Why can't we have it too?

  • @LonganLee
    @LonganLee 4 роки тому +44

    Balla being a foreign minister, used the phrase "people like you" to describe Dr Chee. And the tonality he used to say that. We can see what is his level of statesmanship.

    • @Emsyaz
      @Emsyaz 4 роки тому +6

      Very unprofessional of Bala to use such terms.

    • @albertwongwong9806
      @albertwongwong9806 4 роки тому +1

      Great observations..."ppl like you"

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 4 роки тому +1

      @@Emsyaz voters still gave mandate to him

    • @Emsyaz
      @Emsyaz 4 роки тому +1

      @@LonganLee they are voters who vote blindly.

  • @yapnyukling9326
    @yapnyukling9326 4 роки тому +11

    Doctor Chee is so talented!

  • @justintimeleave1360
    @justintimeleave1360 4 роки тому +130

    I don't understand why we must squeeze everything and give so little time for each candidate. Is this jeopardy? We have the all the time for this format but we have to shorten everything into sound bites? Learn from the mistakes of the west please.

    • @SinSnxpes
      @SinSnxpes 4 роки тому +3

      do you even know how debates work

    • @vembayanselvaraju8371
      @vembayanselvaraju8371 4 роки тому +1

      The purpose is to test the politician...see whether they can explain well, whether they can put across their views within a short time...

    • @SinSnxpes
      @SinSnxpes 4 роки тому

      vembayan selvaraju yep, also so that politicans wont beat around the bush.

    • @HKspurs10
      @HKspurs10 4 роки тому +1

      yah i agree. should have more primetime televised debates like this.

  • @kchoo1118
    @kchoo1118 4 роки тому +118

    Vivian: "It's quite (a) right question, efficacy, and we need to measure outcomes. Now, let's talk about productivity...."
    I read between and inside the letters also cant find the answer. 🤔 🧐 🤨

    • @eloquentsilence
      @eloquentsilence 4 роки тому +23

      The answer is the same as the "East Coast plan" 😬😷

    • @jaredjustin7880
      @jaredjustin7880 4 роки тому +4

      @@eloquentsilence 😂😂😂

    • @yr1183
      @yr1183 4 роки тому +7

      Totally, where is the answer? My god

    • @grace-dn7zw
      @grace-dn7zw 4 роки тому +3

      Wish there would be rebuttals for this

    • @choonieyen
      @choonieyen 4 роки тому

      Eloquent silence we have a plan for the east coast -HSK but he doesn’t know what to say lol

  • @ajbayu68
    @ajbayu68 4 роки тому +65

    Well done Dr Jamus, Dr Chee,,, u guys are really impressive😊😊😊

  • @leongh131
    @leongh131 4 роки тому +69

    Where is Vivian’s answer to Jamus’ question of policy efficacy? It was not a question about how the policy was funded.

    • @princeedwardn319
      @princeedwardn319 4 роки тому +5

      yes, the building up to that answer is too long, i will want to know the answer as well. that measure if PAP is capable enough to lead the country alone without other party, but guess we wont hear about it again unless Jamus or WP able to bring that up in Parliament again.

    • @John-el5sv
      @John-el5sv 4 роки тому +7

      Yes... Good question,
      1. Stimulus package is from reserves
      2. Let me tell you how come we have reserves
      3. Yes efficacy needs to be measured.
      4. How is Singapore built upon, productivity wise, high tech and investment will not produce the same efficacy....
      Hmm... I thought Jamus was asking about the efficacy of the stimulus packages? Like do they produce the intended results? But why is it that Vivian didn't seem to know the direct answer, but instead skirt around the question?
      In fact, what is their intended result of the 4 stimulus packages? What is their goal in no uncertain means? So far all we know is that those stimulus packages protect jobs, but how many and what kinds of jobs are they supposed to protect? If we don't have a goal when enacting a plan, then how do we know if the plans are successful?
      It's easy to throw money to solve a problem, but if it isn't a long term solution then it's like paying ransom to unlock a ransomware. It never ends, but you have to keep paying in order to keep things going.

    • @markfish1113
      @markfish1113 2 роки тому

      @@John-el5sv Heng swee keat miscalculated the stimulus packages as some companies return the money even. This is 1 of the reason he stepped down. Their over emphasis on capital and giving too much to the companies instead of people.

  • @ibrahimmalik3451
    @ibrahimmalik3451 4 роки тому +6

    Jamus Lim have in-depth knowledge of the ply of lower income earners and articulated very well in the debate👍👍👍

  • @kevinlee4820
    @kevinlee4820 4 роки тому +70

    i don't buy Vivian's story that we won't get to 10M. Esp when he said we won't even get to 6.9M.

    • @Meownekox3
      @Meownekox3 4 роки тому

      Probably smoke too much weed that day HAHAHAHA

    • @faith8742
      @faith8742 4 роки тому +3

      the population rate is actually going up quite slow for Singapore if you would look at statistics so I myself don't think that we would get to 10M or 6.9M

    • @xxxsugoitacion
      @xxxsugoitacion 4 роки тому

      can always add extra 4 million foreigners

    • @lwr7751
      @lwr7751 4 роки тому

      @@xxxsugoitacion gg then this one not singapore liao haissss

  • @faith8742
    @faith8742 4 роки тому +16

    I don't really get why people are hating on Vivian Balakrishnan but after watching this, I am proud he is our foreign minister and his rebuttals are pretty well-spoken. I am glad someone who is able to combat such questions impromptu in such an elegant way is representing our country. A lot of people are saying he is talking nonsense and stuff like that but I am sure the government knows their statistics much more than all of us and the government wants the best for the locals. I do think Jamus's reply was great and enlightening too!

  • @officialzacadammorrison
    @officialzacadammorrison 4 роки тому +177

    That WP guy. i love him. No homo. HAHAHA

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +17

      His name is Jamus from WP. Tell all your friends in Sengkang GRC

    • @officialzacadammorrison
      @officialzacadammorrison 4 роки тому +16

      @@talkcocklikesingsongYes! If I'm in Sengkang, the guy got my vote. Need ppl like him in parliament in a complex world

  • @zachz6320
    @zachz6320 4 роки тому +70

    Balakrishnan did not answer Jamus׳ question at all. Has the pap measured efficacy? And how? 😒

    • @travel6968
      @travel6968 4 роки тому +10

      because PAP has no efficacy at all.

    • @xiuzhen1897
      @xiuzhen1897 4 роки тому +8

      It is easy to spot others not to answer. If u have better opinion to increase the efficacy, please share for the benefits of all.

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +4

      Evade the issue . That's the politician talking

    • @annamariana8140
      @annamariana8140 4 роки тому +7

      @@xiuzhen1897what a stupid request, we are not Vivian seat, we don't choose to be leaders n being paid highly..

    • @xiuzhen1897
      @xiuzhen1897 4 роки тому +1

      @@annamariana8140 Thanks for your feedback. Are you mean my suggestion is stupid? When you can say people stupid, it means you are clever, in general. If you really have any constructive feedback good for the nation and Spore, please voice out. Pls dont belittle yourself.

  • @allentan2301
    @allentan2301 4 роки тому +50

    It's not fair saying dr chee landed a cheap shot. Every local knows about the 10million target, isnt it. If it's not from the G, i really dont know who the rumour mongers are.

    • @Sparklynn69
      @Sparklynn69 4 роки тому

      Just typical propaganda by the PAP

  • @aloysius260500
    @aloysius260500 4 роки тому +82

    In such an unfair debate setup , the opposition candidates all performed really well. Hope to see them in parliament !

    • @narutolyy10
      @narutolyy10 4 роки тому +1

      Remmy Gaming really unfair 3 against 1, 3 brains against 1 brain, but Vivian Balakrishnan is good.

  • @kenneth.lim3390
    @kenneth.lim3390 4 роки тому +10

    Jamus Lim👍👍👍👍👍

  • @bobafett5757
    @bobafett5757 4 роки тому +27

    I wish it was Lawrence Wong to answer all those questions and not Dr Vivian who is a Foreign Minister ... Want to see Dr Chee question Lawrence on HDB 99 years lease.

  • @kiangeephua3
    @kiangeephua3 4 роки тому +52

    After listening to Dr Balakrishna's views .. it is clear that PAP does not really look into the livelihood of the poor n underprivileged, not enough help are given to this group of poor people .. look at the card boards pickers, old men n haggard women clearing plates in every hawkers centres. Our PMETs become security guards, grab drivers, delivery men n hawkers.
    How can we called ourselves 1st world country? PAP how you run this nation? Why it has become like this, see for yourself PAPies.

    • @meowmeow-uz4om
      @meowmeow-uz4om 4 роки тому

      Yes ! we should not let the poor or elderly to do security guards, grab drivers, delivery men n hawkers, clear plates. all these can be done by their children or grandchildren !

  • @jessiejames7492
    @jessiejames7492 4 роки тому +6

    must remember that name. jamus lim ! interesting . . brilliant. i remembr years ago vivian balakrishnan was in the NATIONAL UNIVERSITY debate in the 70s? my father used to make us watch it on tv. he used to say' watch ! youll learn something. '' my father said ' that balakrishnan guy will go far. his words came true. I hope mr jamus will go far... he already has i am sure. !

  • @KaiJ22
    @KaiJ22 4 роки тому +35

    PAP starting to shake

  • @jeremywong2429
    @jeremywong2429 4 роки тому +53

    Dr VB: Are you aware that almost 60% workforce are in PMET jobs? Are you aware for every one foreign work pass holder, there are 7 locals?
    Response: Are you aware Dr VB, that your Government employment statistics do not make distinction between Singaporeans and PR?? So when you say 7 locals, how many of those are true blue Singaporeans, PRs, or New Citizens? Many have been asking for the breakdown but the Gov has so far declined to provide. So that's why this question keep popping up every now and then. What you say doesn't match what people see... It doesn't pass the "smell test".

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +1

      It's a good point . Only citizens get to vote . PRs don't. The government should tell people the breakdown of "Locals" .

    • @gabrielkok9208
      @gabrielkok9208 4 роки тому

      oh ho ho CECA, pappies infamous pet project.

    • @flirtatiousdisses
      @flirtatiousdisses 4 роки тому

      Hahahaha even the expats here call themselves locals

  • @zacyan2893
    @zacyan2893 4 роки тому +7

    I hope you give more time to each of them 😊

  • @AggronAaron
    @AggronAaron 4 роки тому +34

    LOL when met with an important question, all they do is avoid it and claim it to be false. I don't understand how people think that voting PAP is a good idea.

  • @chengkokkay2639
    @chengkokkay2639 4 роки тому +2

    I am a degree holder, at 64 year old .I tested out the market by applying PMT jobs, engineering and even McDonald service crew. The market don’t want us. They rather employed Malaysian, and other foreigner . Why don’t give Singaporean to take up the job.The government please tell us what is happening now. You can call me, I can show you what I had applied. This is the truth nothing but the truth.

    • @lulunana4737
      @lulunana4737 4 роки тому

      To be honest, PMET jobs want younger ppl that can grow and stay with the organization. You can work as a consultant actually.

  • @anguslow5684
    @anguslow5684 4 роки тому +17

    I heard PAP's prata quite nice to eat, don't know if yall tried it already.

    • @fgg5978
      @fgg5978 4 роки тому

      Thier twists n turns
      dispened ice cream
      also very good.

  • @leelingchong7111
    @leelingchong7111 4 роки тому +8

    "No. The Government has not proposed, planned nor targeted for Singapore to increase its population to 10 million. ... At that update, the Government said that given recent trends, Singapore's total population is likely to be significantly below 6.9 million by 2030. This outlook remains valid today." Dated 1st July 2020. To all my fellow Singaporeans please don't be too happy as the outlook (quoted from last statement:This outlook remains valid today.) can change anytime. So what can we and should we do about this? Let's think harder.

  • @1982vergil
    @1982vergil 4 роки тому +31

    0:40 He is Right! (skillful and playing with words)
    For every foreign work pass holder in PMETs jobs, there're 7 locals in PMETs jobs
    Locals = Singaporeans or PRs or New Citizens
    Because employee under these categories don't need a work pass😊

    • @jambulrizal5531
      @jambulrizal5531 4 роки тому +7

      what a joke😏

    • @ashunknown9728
      @ashunknown9728 4 роки тому

      @@jambulrizal5531 joke🤗 lol

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +3

      Why are PRs categorized as locals? CAn a PR vote?
      Why can't the figures show only citizens?

    • @eyeswideshut8110
      @eyeswideshut8110 4 роки тому +4

      PMET is a nonsensical category to start off. The salary ranges differ by 10X or more. How is this a meaningful category? This is BS to confuse and hide behind big numbers. Each P or M loss to a foreigner could range from $100K to $300K multiply by tens of thousands...and their family members..you get the picture.

    • @dianawongdianawong3401
      @dianawongdianawong3401 4 роки тому +4

      The govt is elected by the citizens and rightly should look after its citizens first, especially when there is no umemployment welfare in Sg. As Mr Yuen said there are 100,000 unemployed PMETS. He correctly said that the govt should repatriate 100,000 Foreign PMETS. Only if there are excess jobs then only they can be offered to foreigners. Otherwise how do all the unemployed PMETS feed their families? What is the govt answer? There is no relevance between work permit holders to local PMETS. 60% local PMETS is not good enough.

  • @KrishnasDevotionHub
    @KrishnasDevotionHub 4 роки тому +3

    This warms the cockles of my heart

  • @farrahkong1998
    @farrahkong1998 4 роки тому +27

    The idea of 10 million population has been causing anxiety among many. Chee just brings it up on our behalf and is told off so harshly. Sorry for him.

    • @dariuslee9333
      @dariuslee9333 4 роки тому +2

      He brings up a clear falsehood. Where does your anxiety come from? No one ever said that Singapore will have 10 million population. Worried over nothing? This Chee lying out of his ass, deserves to be called out and shut down

    • @XDLeadingLady
      @XDLeadingLady 4 роки тому +1

      Where does this anxiety come from? The 10 million population planning has never ever been said or reported by anyone other than his party. Anything close to it is merely the urban planning of 10 million to create enough space in hundred of years to come. I think your anxiety stems from listening to falsehoods by Chee. 🥴

    • @xJeremypspx
      @xJeremypspx 4 роки тому +1

      Ng Ng so you’re saying they’re planning to create space for 10m for absolutely no reason at all? Yes, they don’t have a target on how much the population should be, but having a 10m urban development plan shows clear intentions of bringing in foreigners to fill the population gap. Also, Dr Chee simply quoted the article of “toying” with the idea of increasing population to 10m and asked for clarification if this would really be the case, so how is there any falsehoods here?

  • @somerslim25
    @somerslim25 4 роки тому +51

    if PAP zone in on someone ; you know who they dont want to debate in Parliament

  • @chewdesmond5875
    @chewdesmond5875 4 роки тому +82

    Whenever u can't answer a question and u r at a unfavorable position, just claimed the opponent is creating falsehood from FACTS!
    Still hadn't been able to get an answer for the justification to over budget YOG sgp.

    • @gala1684
      @gala1684 4 роки тому +21

      Take cover.....there is no falsehood at all to what Dr Chee said.

  • @widayanahanafi5024
    @widayanahanafi5024 4 роки тому +229

    Dr Jamus Lim 👍🏼 and I realised he has 4 masters ... wahh

    • @DevDev-gb6sw
      @DevDev-gb6sw 4 роки тому +28

      From top universities

    • @Philson
      @Philson 4 роки тому +43

      My GRC one. Definitely gets my vote.

    • @JSCJL
      @JSCJL 4 роки тому +6

      And yet only came back to Singapore recently.

    • @joketosociety766
      @joketosociety766 4 роки тому

      JSCJL ?

    • @mikegan9382
      @mikegan9382 4 роки тому +20

      I like him leh. He sounds really intelligent and firm

  • @paparoti4006
    @paparoti4006 4 роки тому +60

    The pap candidate knew the questions very much earlier than the other 3 candidates.

    • @damlwt6657
      @damlwt6657 4 роки тому +19

      Few days back PSP did share with the media why must submit the script 48 hours early, definitely can answer all questions ask him immdedialy they will answer but keep on repeat the same reply or rounding here n there to waste time or make the person who ask this question angry..

    • @alexzzz163
      @alexzzz163 4 роки тому +2

      A proficient debtor will have a set of questions ready. His answers are supported by experience and facts

  • @michaellee3314
    @michaellee3314 4 роки тому +45

    Never show your emotion openly against a particular candidate. VB lost his cool. He lost to Dr. Chee.

    • @JCTPing88
      @JCTPing88 4 роки тому +11

      Lol. It's apparent Dr chee interrupted Dr VBs answer. Dr chee lost his cool

    • @kelvinpang438
      @kelvinpang438 4 роки тому +2

      @@JCTPing88 That's because
      VB claimed that 10m is false when it isn't. www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

    • @JCTPing88
      @JCTPing88 4 роки тому

      @@kelvinpang438 it was clearly a reference to topic about density. Clearly Not a statement out of HSK mouth.

    • @operation10
      @operation10 4 роки тому +2

      Both of them lost their cool

  • @zhizian
    @zhizian 4 роки тому +3

    Well said Jamus Lim. It’s not about re-skill. It’s about fair wage. If a new degree holder can’t even make higher income than a taxi driver or private hired per hour base on hours put in to work.

  • @siaboonleong
    @siaboonleong 4 роки тому +46

    Dr Vivian are u aware everywhere I go for work FT are 70 percent. While locals are not ? Look at hospital and schools how many are our own

    • @jambulrizal5531
      @jambulrizal5531 4 роки тому +3

      totally agree with u

    • @FizRml
      @FizRml 4 роки тому +1

      @vincent Ng idiot boy

    • @Lin-xp8dc
      @Lin-xp8dc 4 роки тому +7

      You need to think hard about how many locals are willing to take up those jobs in hospitals and schools before speaking. You don't seem very aware LOL

    • @travel6968
      @travel6968 4 роки тому +1

      @@Lin-xp8dc might as well replace ministers with foreigners oh I'm sure alot people waiting for this dictatorship position.

    • @megalaikannairam8319
      @megalaikannairam8319 4 роки тому +1

      @vincent Ng open your eyes and dont be selfish pig...

  • @DevDev-gb6sw
    @DevDev-gb6sw 4 роки тому +35

    I remember 10 million by HSK

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +1

      www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

  • @LonganLee
    @LonganLee 4 роки тому +6

    Can any Singapore university produce a Jamus ? Clearly he got his higher learning outside Singapore ?

    • @user-ib2nv2ht4f
      @user-ib2nv2ht4f 4 роки тому +2

      Singapore University is capable of producing 100% purely intelligent Singaporeans Best Sons and Daughters!. If you have lived in the US you would know, Singaporeans and Japanese students are sought after in any US University. Jamus is unique on his own. He let himself be Americanized equally when he speak there is American accent. I quite admired his intelligence and bravado but yet to learn if his Americanized is Conservative Republican or Democrat. Time will tell.

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 4 роки тому +1

      @@user-ib2nv2ht4f You still don't get it. Jamus outshines. Whatever you say also no use. You cannot debunk the Truth. Education results is all you know. That's why I said what I said. Singapore education is primarily rote learning or different than American standard. SG is good for scoring exams but where is the wisdom? Jamus is wisdom. How many SG doctors stepped forward to say No to the Mask advisory? Only 4 . So the rest of the doctors, where is their moral courage?

    • @LonganLee
      @LonganLee 4 роки тому

      @@user-ib2nv2ht4f Well I never said what you alleged. Likewise, how do you prove what you claim?

  • @TerenceLim121
    @TerenceLim121 4 роки тому +34

    Balakrishnan taking cheap shots at Dr. Chee Soon Juan. He doesn’t know what Heng Swee Kiat said during that interview.

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +2

      www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

  • @jolabulabu8702
    @jolabulabu8702 4 роки тому +6

    It’s time to change!!! From backstabbing to front stabbing!!!!

  • @limjin5200
    @limjin5200 4 роки тому +67

    Debate til call Dr chee a cheap shot lol...
    Don't expect everyone to adapt to your sweet talk.
    Vb u lost it man.

    • @牙海-d2c
      @牙海-d2c 4 роки тому +7

      Never heard about a false statement can win sia

    • @kelvinpang438
      @kelvinpang438 4 роки тому

      @@牙海-d2c www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

  • @freddielow4150
    @freddielow4150 4 роки тому +25

    Dr. Balakrishnan, the problem arises when we don't know how much reserves we have? Until then, the government can say anything but there is no way to verify. That's authoritarian and autocratic; the rulers say and the people have to accept.....

    • @chrispycreme9545
      @chrispycreme9545 4 роки тому +1

      How is that authoritarian?

    • @chrispycreme9545
      @chrispycreme9545 4 роки тому +1

      Authoritarian rule is to enforce absolute obedience or they would use draconian punishments on you. Normally in dictatorships where the political opponents would be sent to prisons or assassinated. They do not allow you to think differently and will subject the citizens to extreme re-education and propaganda. The citizens will become mindless drones. Not telling people how much reserves is not authoritarian.
      Autocracy is basically a supreme power or heard of state that rules by itself and doesn’t allow their citizens to vote. How can a single MP be an autocrat when we are literally in a election?
      Don’t use words that you don’t even know the meaning of. It really makes you look like a fool.

  • @anty2312
    @anty2312 4 роки тому +5

    Y Vivian keep on debate on d 10million population bUt y never debate on Chee that their (pAp) pays r $100k or more a month!? Enlighten me pls ....

  • @Olly07
    @Olly07 4 роки тому +12

    Who is the interviewer? He is fair with the time given.

  • @johnnyhs_ngnng5554
    @johnnyhs_ngnng5554 4 роки тому

    Mr Lim Wai Meng I agree & support what you said. Such conditions. Giving opposition hardly enough times to count from 1 to 90 . This is ridiculous while PAP plenty of times.

  • @garynguyen8977
    @garynguyen8977 4 роки тому +1

    Talk intellectually, act responsibly & discuss peacefully. 👍. Putting a time limit in the ask/answer session is a smart moves to save face for all party involved.
    Bala & Lim can talk smoothly. Lim may bcome a rising ⭐.

  • @Cazzero
    @Cazzero 4 роки тому

    15 mins not wasted. This is how debate should be

  • @RJ-kb1sr
    @RJ-kb1sr 4 роки тому +62

    V totally lost it with Chee, my say is don’t get emotional

    • @snchoo6037
      @snchoo6037 4 роки тому +6

      The moderator is damn annoying. He keeps cutting their conversation. The time for speaking is too short. It's stupid to have a debate but not allow enough time for speaking

    • @snchoo6037
      @snchoo6037 4 роки тому

      @1PieceofLuffy yeah i guess

    • @iamblackboss
      @iamblackboss 4 роки тому +1

      Sn Choo it must happen and it does happen in all debates he must interrupt

    • @desaturated6049
      @desaturated6049 4 роки тому +2

      Nah Chee did not even answering the question. you may not like PAP, but don't be blinded by the angst and automatically think what Chee say is right. His policy is indeed flawed.

    • @crabosity
      @crabosity 4 роки тому

      1PieceofLuffy wow MediaCorp cannot end few minutes later? You think got that much people waiting for the 9pm drama ah

  • @eyeswideshut8110
    @eyeswideshut8110 4 роки тому +2

    I'm always confused with data like 60,000 foreigners have lost their jobs. Which payscale? We lost tens of thousands of good paying PMET jobs, dont compare orange to Ba-long-long pls.

  • @sharonjohn9430
    @sharonjohn9430 4 роки тому +23

    Why is a foreign minister in this panel?? 🧐 Instead The home minister or PM should be there.

    • @mark-yf8sm
      @mark-yf8sm 4 роки тому +6

      I agree by right DPM should be here to answer the questions as well.

    • @bobafett5757
      @bobafett5757 4 роки тому +1

      Agree ... it should be Lawrence Wong to answer all those questions cos waiting for Dr Chee to grill him on 99 years lease.

  • @audreychoong7323
    @audreychoong7323 4 роки тому +5

    Jamus Lim is really eloquent. He is a good debater.

  • @farrellwolf2498
    @farrellwolf2498 4 роки тому +7

    This is not a chess competition why rush? PAP owns the mediacorp.
    It’s “controlled opposition” that’s what I think this debate is all about..

    • @meowmeow-uz4om
      @meowmeow-uz4om 4 роки тому

      yes ! PAP owns mcdonald, 711, bossini and Watson too !! they control the price .. why so expensive !

  • @spencerlim9011
    @spencerlim9011 4 роки тому +12

    What debate was this, break here break there, might as well dont debate and put the Q&A on writing to save time. Sigh.......

    • @dianawongdianawong3401
      @dianawongdianawong3401 4 роки тому +1

      This is a lousy debate, questions raised but not fully answered or unanswered because of time constraints. Should limit 1 question and 1 full answer.

  • @corebry2936
    @corebry2936 4 роки тому +2

    quite limited time allocated. 1 min alr used up in preamble and hedging of answers before the actual meat of the answer is presented

  • @janelau7297
    @janelau7297 4 роки тому +4

    Talking about jobs and jobs, pls look into the current situation. More companies are taking in contract worker and not employees to avoid all the welfare that they suppose to provide to a full time employee. This is unfair to our citizens. PAP, are you checking on this, or are you allowing that to happen??

  • @davekoh6272
    @davekoh6272 4 роки тому +29

    Jamus 👍

  • @yr1183
    @yr1183 4 роки тому +9

    To Vivian's "maintain a stable core that can reproduce" - that you are talking about the birth rate problem. And your solution is to keep bring foreigners in? For God's sake, you haven't even define the problem right.
    To solve the birth rate problem, you should address "cost of bringing up the kids", choices of women work arrangement after maternity leave, and full time house wives' retirement scheme. For a stay home mum, I have to wait for my husband or children to top up my cpf while spending all the energy raising children. If maintain the population is an issue of national importance, why is women's sacrifices not being recognised financially by the country? At least, you should give these moms a state pension.

    • @aidanseow6899
      @aidanseow6899 4 роки тому

      Exactly, think you analyst issues better than most of our MPs who earn millions but still unable to solve current issues. We have enter 2020, if we dont resolve these issues quickly our core will erode slowly and SG income gap between classes will get wider and wider.

  • @wongahfook
    @wongahfook 4 роки тому +8

    Don't understand the white

  • @tamshanon8917
    @tamshanon8917 4 роки тому +23

    Why can’t pap answer to the question without throwing in so much smoke screens to mask the actual context which we are waiting to hear ?

    • @f9000k
      @f9000k 4 роки тому +4

      Coz when they don’t have answers ... so they apply the technique - if you can’t convince them u confuse them ... 🤣

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому

      Actually government help singaporeans people alot but i think singaporeans people take government for granted so they should learn how to appreciate what government help them not just keep on complaining.

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому

      @@lt5912 So you can ask singaporean people are they willing to work long and tough hours jobs, then i can tell you none singaporeans people want to work that kind of job, that why singapore government hire foreigners to work on that kind of jobs, so i think singaporean people should appreciate and feel content what the government have help and provide them.
      I think singapore government really help and fork out alot to help singaporeans people so those people should vote wisely.
      Also singaporean people dont take government for granted.

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому

      @@lt5912 Even though the employers pay more to their worker can you promise that they will done a nice job and not just keep on take their boss for granted.
      Seem you have so many unhappiness things then you can vote for oppo parties.
      Because my views are that singaporean people should learn how to appreciate and content what government help and provide them.
      Not take governement for granted
      Plus not government want to hire foreigner to work just that singaporean people not willing to work that kind of jobs that why they keep saying the boss pay them less but not more also i am sure that if you have talent then the boss sure will pay you more in that jobs.

    • @kennychua9201
      @kennychua9201 4 роки тому

      @Lawrence w0nq For example government can give back all the money to the tax payers peoples but once the people use all their money already then they still will go back to the government ask them for help
      Then i think in the end singapore will ended up no money like their foreign countries is that what you want to see it.

  • @aliciatung5059
    @aliciatung5059 4 роки тому +5

    BIG FAN OF PROF JAMUS LIM HERE!!!

  • @freddielow4150
    @freddielow4150 4 роки тому +10

    Dr. Balakrishnan, for a start, revoke the treaty that gives Indian nationals total access to employment in Singapore that is the brainchild of DPM Heng, What do others have that we cannot train our own Singaporeans in?

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +2

      They are cheaper and more hardworking mah.

    • @limken5373
      @limken5373 4 роки тому +5

      @@talkcocklikesingsong that Ramash , remember him ?got 60,000 salary a month , bought a condo and show off to the security, cheap?

  • @jimw8615
    @jimw8615 4 роки тому +15

    Jamus Lim must go into the parliament. Singaporean really need to learn to see the Big picture. Stop all the 5ct10ct issues. Sigh... why do I think the majority will still not step up, speak up tis time round. Sigh again...

  • @nuntellagold893
    @nuntellagold893 4 роки тому

    If there's no title for this video. I'm going to assume that this is a game show not a political debate. Who is the producer?

  • @JL-sw3sb
    @JL-sw3sb 4 роки тому +5

    I hope to see people like Francis Yuen and Jamus Lim in parliament. Personally, I like Mr. Jamus Lim. He is eloquent and confident but he a bit on the "atas" kind, thus not sure if he can relate to all level of people at neighborhood or can he "tahan" meeting people of all walks.

    • @f9000k
      @f9000k 4 роки тому +4

      Well ..yeah I agree we hope to see them in parliament too ... you said - he (Jamus) a bit on the ‘atas “ = higher class... I think we shd also ask ourselves - if we can give votes to the ‘atas’ candidate of the incumbent ... why can’t we have “atas” alternative voice for the opposing side? Surely We need opposition with class right ? Not an “atas” someone who keeps rambling about “East Coast plant 🌱 ...“ 🤣

  • @noorulameen804
    @noorulameen804 4 роки тому +8

    I skipped listening to the man-in-white.
    I only paid attention to the other 3!

  • @badboi888
    @badboi888 4 роки тому +1

    I agreed with Dr Balakrishnan on the sgunited temp jobs. It is jobs not career, those people have to upgrade themselves to get a long-lasting career.

  • @jameslim6865
    @jameslim6865 4 роки тому +10

    Question and answer? More like many questions for the PAP, but no answer. Only 1 thing is certain, 9% GST if you vote for the PAP.

  • @jy7viii
    @jy7viii 4 роки тому +2

    Should had not??? Other had done it.. then they said wp side step?? Others came when TH the steps. And they tried to say that ppl copied and amended their thinking? They only had, would have written that....... who wrote that?

  • @muralikrishnan4104
    @muralikrishnan4104 4 роки тому

    the WP candidates - credible, honest, transparent, loyal singaporean, honest, - they r here to upgrade ppl's lives. thats is the bottom line. lets give our support.

  • @sunsunny2379
    @sunsunny2379 4 роки тому +4

    i want you to pay back our CPF.

  • @sgfuture9472
    @sgfuture9472 4 роки тому +21

    Make your Votes count! For the People, for the Country, you Deserve Better! 4Y1N!

  • @arrowstheorem1881
    @arrowstheorem1881 4 роки тому +4

    Jamus seems to have outclassed PAP Bala who has lots of experience. I guess Genius outclass experience and age

  • @kangtee4444
    @kangtee4444 4 роки тому +1

    $100 billions Care and Support budget with $52 billions from Reserves. This means $48 billions are surpluses from current term (4 years so far).
    Vivian mentioned that GST revenues are $11 billions (per year).. If GST is abolished, there will still be surpluses every year. That means GST revenues are PURE SURPLUSES.
    A quarter (1/4) of GST revenue collected is more than enough to give $500 per month to each senior citizens above 65 as proposed by Dr Chee to enable these senior citizens live decently.
    The current Silver Support of $450 per quarter for senior citizens above 65 and only those whose past CPF contributions less than $70 thousands is really a SHAME. This works out to $150 per month or $5 a day. Ask PAP MPs to try to live on $5 per day. At $50 thousands a month, they are already complaining that they have supported .......

  • @abdulkarimmohamedghouse5422
    @abdulkarimmohamedghouse5422 4 роки тому +5

    Vivian, I think you sound arrogant. You are to be blamed for the lost in PAP strong hold.

  • @cliveyeo3798
    @cliveyeo3798 4 роки тому

    Well done gentlemen. Debates on the issues on our national.

  • @JL-sw3sb
    @JL-sw3sb 4 роки тому +4

    I hope to see people like Francis Yuen and Jamus Lim in parliament. Personally, I like Mr. Jamus Lim. He is eloquent and confident but he a bit on the "atas" kind, thus not sure if he can relate to all level of people at neighborhood or can he "takan" meeting people of all walks.

    • @talkcocklikesingsong
      @talkcocklikesingsong 4 роки тому +3

      U mean VB not atas meh?

    • @benashertan5162
      @benashertan5162 4 роки тому

      Need to wait for all those public reviews of Jamus just like it did for some of the other candidates

  • @rinajesse9851
    @rinajesse9851 4 роки тому

    Candidate Lim Tean reminds us of late JB Jeyaretnam - bravery. If he's voted in - he will sparks the whole parliament!! - challenging! Like this statement by Jamus Lim - "DON'T OPPOSE FOR THE SAKE OF OPPOSING. IF IDEAS ARE GOOD SHD BE SUPPORTED".
    Anyway PAP is already the govt - People hope more opposition parties to represent people's voices . Currently not enough.

  • @S.E.essence
    @S.E.essence 4 роки тому

    A qualitative debate indeed n Sg should be in good hand n can progress with both Govt n Opposition having a constructive mindset however the choice of the next PM is crucial to manoeuvre the mirage given the current world's market political n economic uncertainty.....and certainly meritocratic n not race base should be the preference.

  • @beejoooh8215
    @beejoooh8215 4 роки тому +4

    How can the Chief architect plan and design the public facilities without knowing the target population and when to made the public facilities ready. So did our Government ever Plan? Or just asking for mandate for them to make million dollar salary??????

  • @gohkr5062
    @gohkr5062 2 місяці тому

    1) Who is going to pay for it?
    2) What is the total bill?
    3) Where is the money coming from?
    Please la... 5 years down the road, you are building a $200mil Founder's Memorial. Create so many redundant Mayor, MOS, SM, SMS million-dollar job.

  • @skycityicw824
    @skycityicw824 4 роки тому +5

    PAP-Pay And Pay
    WP-Why Pay?
    SDP-Stop Don’t Pay
    PV- Please Voice-up
    PPP- Please Prevent Paying
    NSP- Never! Stop Paying
    RP- Refrain Paying
    SPP- Stop People Paying
    SDA- Stop Don’t Agree
    RDU- Refrain/Don’t Pay(Union)