Love this band. Sometimes referred to as the Rush of thrash. Incredible technical skill and cool grooves. They advanced a lot through their short discography. The two that followed this one, "Mental Vortex" and "Grin" are probably a little more accessible.
There doesn’t seem to be any odd meters, it’s just really syncopated. I like to be surprised and entertained when I listen to music and this one delivers. I give it a 👍.
Thanks Justin for giving Coroner a chance. You'll find that on their 1993 album Grin, a few additional instruments are added to the band's usual sound, such as synths, and even a didgeridoo on "Status: Still Thinking" (which you might like to try next time). I appreciate the raw vocals of Ron Broder, who doesn't employ growl vocals but uses his voice in a naturally rough way.
@@a.k.1740 Grin is an underrated album to me. Definitely a big departure from their previous material but great in it's own right if you don't go into it expecting technical thrash.
@@psychicvacuum555 Yes, Grin is excellent and more ‘thoughtful’, with an industrial edge. Although the band got together in 2010, there's still no successor to Grin in 2024.
I like the big riff, I like the drums, how they jump throughout the song, I like the energy in the song. Overall I liked it, I heard a lot of this kind of music growing up in Hollywood.
Some nice clean, angular, jagged shred in this. There's no "muddiness" - where it all just floods away under your feet at some point. It gets nice and close to that, but stays "note-audible". They're quite different, but I like this for the same reason I like Voivod, I think. (Good thing they're not the same, since it's better to have two good things than just one split in two. Also good that at least some people feel some connection between them.)
@@sicko_the_ew Love both but Voivod is a top 10 band for me! They were so unique and totally fearless back in the late 80s/early 90s. I hope JP checks out some more of their stuff, he did a song or 2 but wasn't too crazy about the vocals if I remember correctly. I had the exact same experience at first but once it "clicked" there was no turning back for me.
@@psychicvacuum555 I can get that the vocals might hit the wrong nerve endings on a day when one isn't emotionally ready for that, but we live in times where we've fallen down from the great choirs and operas of long ago - and even from the standards set by the old crooners of the 1940's, so I don't think it can be actual vocal quality that's generally the problem. There's a sense in which we already have very low standards for this part of the music. The best we come up with is just a shadow of what came before. No more Ella Fitzgeralds, for instance. Not even close. If I'm right, anyway, then, "getting" Voivod is just a matter of coming back on another day where this time you don't get taken by surprise. (And no, I don't agree with me dear old Mum that e.g. The Beatles "just shout", or with Dad, who was tolerant enough, but only ever listened to opera for singing, if he took the time to sit down to just listen to music. Modern singing is sometimes something that's "good if it's in character". Voivod's vocals are perfect for a world populated by vampire alien overlords, for instance. Things didn't get worse; they just got different. A band has to come up with a characteristic sound. Once the vocals fit, it's all gooood, it's all good, as the great dUg says.)
@@sicko_the_ew Yeah, for me it was the weird dissonant melodies Snake often uses. At first it sounded like he just couldn't hit the right notes, but once I realized he was choosing those notes intentionally and perfectly executing them then I was able to hear how they fit the instrumental and add another layer of weirdness to the already unsettling musical landscape. Pretty genius, to be honest.
Stoked on the amount of metal you've been covering lately, while still delivering a ton of other stuff! Very cool. Love Coroner, they were always very rhythmically interesting. They don't have a bad album but to me their highest point is the Mental Vortex album. Switzerland has never had a huge metal scene but there were some great bands, my favourites being these guys, Messiah and above all Celtic Frost! I'd love it if you covered their album To Mega Therion some day, one of the most important and influential albums of all time in terms of extreme metal. Extremely groundbreaking for the time and still holds up today, IMO. My attempt to answer your question regarding the interesting rhythmic stop/starts in thrash: first thing that comes to mind is early Megadeth, they always had a penchant for that. Can't remember off hand whether you've featured or mentioned them on the channel but another great band that's absolutely worth your time, especially Peace Sells or Rust in Peace. Cheers 🤘🤘
@@Owlstretchingtime78 I've always really enjoyed Tom's harsh vocal style. Sinister and guttural (definitely an influence on death metal) while remaining well-articulated and decipherable.
(Completely unrelated to the music on this video) the 1975 Rolling Thunder Revue live version of Bob Dylan's "Hurricane" just came up in my playlist and I think you'd enjoy it. Incredible narrative drive with swooping fiddle runs.
Crunchy and Varied. Likey! Please JP, give some early RIOT a spin. Gutsy Original Genuine Hair Metal which thrilled me as a mid teen. Waiting For The Taking Justin. Ha! Guilty as Charged.
Takes me back to when I first got into thrash. A h.s. friend introduced me to Coroner, Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth and Kreator. Before that I listened to Ramones, Police and Bad Brains and Dinosaur Jr. Which I still do! J Mascis for president 💥🎸🤘☮️
If you liked that you could listen to a Ministry album. Changing tack completely, may I suggest 'Saint Joe on the School Bus' by Marcy Playground, or 'I Wish You Were a Girl' by 12 Rods. Keep up the good work.
If it's the Slayer song you're talking about, I find it gruff compared to Coroner's "Die by My Hand". Marky Edelmann's drumming is far superior to Dave Lombardo's in my opinion.
You hear one of these, you've largely heard 'em all. Where's the nuance, the hooks. To paraphrase Murtaugh, maybe I'm just too old for this sh*t. Left me cold, just all too familiar.
Doesn't resonate with me at all. I imagine if I were to listen to a whole album of this, I'd end it with a headache. It's not the angular nature of the sound or the stop-start bits, it's more just the whole sound as a whole seems to push all the wrong buttons for me.
Love this band. Sometimes referred to as the Rush of thrash. Incredible technical skill and cool grooves. They advanced a lot through their short discography. The two that followed this one, "Mental Vortex" and "Grin" are probably a little more accessible.
There doesn’t seem to be any odd meters, it’s just really syncopated. I like to be surprised and entertained when I listen to music and this one delivers. I give it a 👍.
Yeah, mostly just syncopated rhythms in 4/4. There is one riff in 9 during the bridge.
Glad you enjoyed it! I really like this band.
Coroner live - cool trio. Bassist/singer is great.
Thanks Justin for giving Coroner a chance. You'll find that on their 1993 album Grin, a few additional instruments are added to the band's usual sound, such as synths, and even a didgeridoo on "Status: Still Thinking" (which you might like to try next time). I appreciate the raw vocals of Ron Broder, who doesn't employ growl vocals but uses his voice in a naturally rough way.
@@a.k.1740 Grin is an underrated album to me. Definitely a big departure from their previous material but great in it's own right if you don't go into it expecting technical thrash.
@@psychicvacuum555 Yes, Grin is excellent and more ‘thoughtful’, with an industrial edge. Although the band got together in 2010, there's still no successor to Grin in 2024.
Underrated band
I like the big riff, I like the drums, how they jump throughout the song, I like the energy in the song. Overall I liked it, I heard a lot of this kind of music growing up in Hollywood.
Some nice clean, angular, jagged shred in this. There's no "muddiness" - where it all just floods away under your feet at some point. It gets nice and close to that, but stays "note-audible".
They're quite different, but I like this for the same reason I like Voivod, I think. (Good thing they're not the same, since it's better to have two good things than just one split in two. Also good that at least some people feel some connection between them.)
Voiviod were/are great, but they're a strange case as they've had many radically different sounds over the years. I love that.
@@sicko_the_ew Love both but Voivod is a top 10 band for me! They were so unique and totally fearless back in the late 80s/early 90s.
I hope JP checks out some more of their stuff, he did a song or 2 but wasn't too crazy about the vocals if I remember correctly. I had the exact same experience at first but once it "clicked" there was no turning back for me.
@@pentagrammaton6793 True. But somehow they also always sound exactly like Voivod when they do.
@@psychicvacuum555 I can get that the vocals might hit the wrong nerve endings on a day when one isn't emotionally ready for that, but we live in times where we've fallen down from the great choirs and operas of long ago - and even from the standards set by the old crooners of the 1940's, so I don't think it can be actual vocal quality that's generally the problem.
There's a sense in which we already have very low standards for this part of the music. The best we come up with is just a shadow of what came before. No more Ella Fitzgeralds, for instance. Not even close. If I'm right, anyway, then, "getting" Voivod is just a matter of coming back on another day where this time you don't get taken by surprise.
(And no, I don't agree with me dear old Mum that e.g. The Beatles "just shout", or with Dad, who was tolerant enough, but only ever listened to opera for singing, if he took the time to sit down to just listen to music. Modern singing is sometimes something that's "good if it's in character". Voivod's vocals are perfect for a world populated by vampire alien overlords, for instance. Things didn't get worse; they just got different. A band has to come up with a characteristic sound. Once the vocals fit, it's all gooood, it's all good, as the great dUg says.)
@@sicko_the_ew Yeah, for me it was the weird dissonant melodies Snake often uses. At first it sounded like he just couldn't hit the right notes, but once I realized he was choosing those notes intentionally and perfectly executing them then I was able to hear how they fit the instrumental and add another layer of weirdness to the already unsettling musical landscape. Pretty genius, to be honest.
Stoked on the amount of metal you've been covering lately, while still delivering a ton of other stuff! Very cool.
Love Coroner, they were always very rhythmically interesting. They don't have a bad album but to me their highest point is the Mental Vortex album.
Switzerland has never had a huge metal scene but there were some great bands, my favourites being these guys, Messiah and above all Celtic Frost! I'd love it if you covered their album To Mega Therion some day, one of the most important and influential albums of all time in terms of extreme metal. Extremely groundbreaking for the time and still holds up today, IMO.
My attempt to answer your question regarding the interesting rhythmic stop/starts in thrash: first thing that comes to mind is early Megadeth, they always had a penchant for that. Can't remember off hand whether you've featured or mentioned them on the channel but another great band that's absolutely worth your time, especially Peace Sells or Rust in Peace.
Cheers 🤘🤘
@@psychicvacuum555 Bring on the death grunts. 'To Mega Therion' is a beast!
@@Owlstretchingtime78 I've always really enjoyed Tom's harsh vocal style. Sinister and guttural (definitely an influence on death metal) while remaining well-articulated and decipherable.
(Completely unrelated to the music on this video) the 1975 Rolling Thunder Revue live version of Bob Dylan's "Hurricane" just came up in my playlist and I think you'd enjoy it. Incredible narrative drive with swooping fiddle runs.
The only Coroner song I knew was Masked Jackal - loved it back in the day, and still do.
Crunchy and Varied. Likey!
Please JP, give some early RIOT a spin. Gutsy Original Genuine Hair Metal which thrilled me as a mid teen. Waiting For The Taking Justin. Ha! Guilty as Charged.
Stop the autopsy, this one lives!✌️&❤
Good sir, that was one Coronery joke.
Takes me back to when I first got into thrash. A h.s. friend introduced me to Coroner, Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth and Kreator. Before that I listened to Ramones, Police and Bad Brains and Dinosaur Jr. Which I still do! J Mascis for president 💥🎸🤘☮️
Justin, listen to Megadeth's 1990 album Rust in Peace, in my opinion it's one of the best thrash metal albums, if not the best!
If you liked that you could listen to a Ministry album. Changing tack completely, may I suggest 'Saint Joe on the School Bus' by Marcy Playground, or 'I Wish You Were a Girl' by 12 Rods. Keep up the good work.
It's more Megadeth than Slayer to my ears but there's always something satisfying about thrash, even second division stuff like this.
It think it’s time for Confessor and their track Condemned. Another (but better imo) technical but groovy band from around the same time.
ANYTHING OFF THIS ALBUM AND MENTAL CORTEX IS GHOSTED
Same old
Don't know what to think. It wasn't awful.
What seperates this from countless other thrash metal songs? Sorry my French friend, but it was no 'Angel Of Death'!
If it's the Slayer song you're talking about, I find it gruff compared to Coroner's "Die by My Hand". Marky Edelmann's drumming is far superior to Dave Lombardo's in my opinion.
@@a.k.1740 I completely disagree. Lombardo is a genius.
@@Owlstretchingtime78 To each his own. Never liked Slayer anyway!
@@a.k.1740 Perfectly acceptable mate. You know how it goes. 😉
@a.k.1740 That's two on the bounce now. Looking for something to unite us again very soon! 👍
You hear one of these, you've largely heard 'em all. Where's the nuance, the hooks. To paraphrase Murtaugh, maybe I'm just too old for this sh*t. Left me cold, just all too familiar.
It's ok for thrash, but it doesn't compare to say, peak Megadeth or Overkill.
In this genre, Slayer's Reign In Blood still rules. Not bad after 38 years!
@@Owlstretchingtime78 I'll make a stand here: Reign In Blood is an appallingly bad record from start to finish. They got lucky.
@@pentagrammaton6793 Fine. It's an opinion. 😊
@@Owlstretchingtime78 and that's why we get along, unlike some others on here. 🙃
Not a style id listen too much. Too predictable.
Coroner are like the last thrash metal band I’d consider predictable lol
Sounds like you didn’t listen to it much
How is it predictable😭😭😭
Doesn't resonate with me at all. I imagine if I were to listen to a whole album of this, I'd end it with a headache. It's not the angular nature of the sound or the stop-start bits, it's more just the whole sound as a whole seems to push all the wrong buttons for me.
It's good trash metal
@@Alix777.Is trash deliberate, or do you mean thrash?
I prefer Gino, seriously. Uninteresting noise.
I love both, strange as it may seem!😉
@@a.k.1740Yes, but i like eclecticism.
I'm waiting for more Stranglers and XTC. And Costello, for some reason, Justin never finish his albums.
@@jtenaz Yes, I'm waiting for those three as well. Justin does quite a lot at once, which means he loses track a bit over time!😉