"Which I steadily began writing up into a book. But then I got distracted from the story by the worldbuilding, and then I got distracted from the worldbuilding by the conlanging." I relate way too much to these sentences.
18:48 If you can pause right there, there's a single frame of some kind of logo. Please be foreshadowing. And please more Refugium: this is even better than I had hoped. Edit: yep, it’s Aan
Refugium? An interesting name, to say the least. I like it. I’d love to see what happens when they discover electricity and explore the shadow lands, it sounds really interesting.
They will found our that the rest of the planet is ded and they are in fact one planet drifting through void between galaxies, kept alive by the unexplainable energy source.
Wow. I’ve literally never considered a world like this. With different physical mechanisms to create reality. Most fictional worlds are boring compared to this. It’s genuinely incredible.
Reminds me of a world of mine from when I was 12 that's on the inside, rather than outside, of a giant sphere, with the sun (actually the corpse of a god, slowly decomposing and going black) in the middle. I should do something with that.
I hope later when they have better technology they go explore the dark lands. I really wanna see what’s in there. I think it could be done using flashlights and very insulated suits akin to our space suits that we use, just minus the oxygen tanks and probably colored black instead of white to attract more heat. I’d also bring weapons in case those silhouettes of beasts that you mention weren’t fairytales. And of course, a lot of food.
17:45 "Many say that staring into the darkness for too long will drive one mad" If it does actually drive one mad, you can't really do anything to go there, there's probably something very powerful you don't want to see. I'm interested to see how scary the darkness could be.
The amount of effort you put into this is just breathtaking, i could barely make one conlang, let alone an entire world of them. Its very inspiring . Ive been watching you for a while, and seeing an overview of everything is really appreciated! Thanks!
I believe that, if you get nothing else from Biblaridion's fantastic body of work so far, you should know that you CAN make a conlang, one that you are proud of and others will be interested in. All you need is a little thought, a lot of time, and some modicum of work, and you can take what you've learned here and make something that will inspire other would-be conlangers.
I personally realized that I have no particular interest in conlanging. Linguistic trivia is fascinating and seeing how stuff fits together is amazing, but what I'm into is the worldbuilding, so I focused on what I cared about rather than trying to do everything. So my world has one-dimensional languages that were generated by a script, but all of my effort goes into figuring out how the societies work and where they came from.
Thandian was kinda the oldest iteration of Edun. notice how “Tsann(ur)” and “Thand” line up, and how langs like Ilothwii were made soon after the abandoning of Thandian
2:51 if, hypothetically, someone were to scour the umbral plains, seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him, would those that tasted the bite of his sword call him anything in particular?
Yes. More refugium is DEFINITELY needed, would love to hear more about the Nhlogqwa- BTW are they racially distinct from the other groups or just an extension of one of the other races?
I think they are the same race/subspecies as the thireans and the people of Tsannur. Thirea is the only major landmass close to Nhlogqwa so I don't think its anything else. Also, I think if it were a distinct race/subspecies he would mention it like he mentioned for the other cases.
In the Ilothwii video, he mentioned that the Ilothwii language was suspected to share a very distant common ancestor with the Thirean languages Nekachti and Edun. This leads me to suspect these peoples are of common stock, but that they have probably formed a distinct population given the time since divergence and the geographical isolation of the islands.
And you'll also hate that it is hypothetically possible for them to exist in real life _i am sorry for having to bring that up to your information table_
@@alostalex7449 a number of spiders have bodies that can function similar to parachutes or sailing, so that they can glide in the wind or fall gracefully from heights. This is how golden orb weavers migrate.
Will you ever talk about how lexical stress can move from one syllable to another? Like how proto-Germanic had a sound change that moved stress to the first syllable of the root of the word, or how stress was moved from the final to the penultimate syllable in Cornish during the eleventh century
The case with Proto-Germanic is just an example of leveling. In other words, in Pre-Proto-Germanic stress was unpredictable and had to be “memorized” for every word and created meaningful distinctions, whereas by Proto-Germanic it had become predictable and non-distinguishing.
So I'm guessing shadows in this world would be somewhat unusual (outside the obvious Shadow Lands’ “shadows”), since shadows cast by the sun would be more or less permanent. I wonder what sort of unusual flora/fauna might develop within the larger areas of shadow cast by mountains, or canyons or other large features. I also wonder if reflecting light would play a large role in the lives of the world’s people. Since the light from the sun is unmoving, you could easily set up any type of polished surface to reflect the sunlight towards a specific spot, and it wouldn't waiver or need adjusting (during the day obviously). Shutters and other simple mechanisms could be used to suddenly light, or darken, areas. The layout of buildings could be altered if natural light could be artificially directed into normally dark interiors; I can especially see religions utilizing reflected light for dramatic effect within their architecture or rituals. Things like solar ovens, water heater, etc. could be set up and would have a permanent, consistent, and easy to scale output. Long range communication systems could be set up relatively easily using focused light bounced from one reflected surface stationed at towers or some similar type of relays. I am absolutely not any sort of expert on light, or optics or anything related to this, so I will leave it there. I am worried I might be missing some obvious issues that make all of these concepts untenable, but my mind immediately ran away with ideas about this, and I wanted to at least mention them. One final thought: Since every "night" is essentially an eclipse, I wonder if the people of the world would give any special significance to those odd, crescent-shaped shadows that things like trees, and any other variation of a pinhole, cast right before and after totality. Or, would they just be considered completely normal, and treated as nothing more fantastic than an indicator for when night is approaching? Either way, I assume the people in the areas that experience the eclipses would have unique words for them, and they would likely feature in poetry and various sayings/idioms. Sorry if that is a bit of a ramble. I felt the need to write this all down quickly before the concepts could get away from me. I just love these types of what-if worldbuilding concepts. Great vid Bib!
This is a very underrated comment, & is indicative of the kinds of imaginative consequential worldbuilding that Bib should incorporate into the Refugium, if he hasn't already.
Absolute banger comment wtf Ever see those solar furances where they get all the light from a massive french hill and put it into one little spot? Imagine that but it was built in like ancient china for some cool reason im not creative enough to think of
I'm really interested in this world now. Especially the eeriness of the dark lands and the "enormous ineffable things" that roam there. What's past these giant sheets of ice in the oceans? As mankind progresses, they would discover more and more about these fringe lands. It's all so interesting I'm really hoping to see more of this
Are we all just going to ignore that right at the start he literally says that something happened to the entire populace? And then proceeds to constantly refer to every civilisation in the past tense.
Neat. I particularly dig your cosmological structure of multiple moons passing intricately between the land and sun in a manner that feels constructed, like the workings of a machine.
Headcanon: this world used to be a futuristic planet, spherical and everything (not earth). Then everything collapsed when their sun died. The remaining geniuses built an artificial sun over tsannur that only shines in a 6000 km radius. They also built moons for day/night cycle. A long time passed and humans started over. Nobody of the present knows any of the “sun dying” story. Edit: grammar
"But then I got distracted from the story by the worldbuilding" Same, same. Finished my novel's second draft just an hour ago after five years passed just writing, deleting, rewriting, redeleting and re-rewriting the worldbuilding :-D
I seriously want there to be a series about exploring the unknown parts of Refugium, like what's in the dark area? Or what are those moons supported by? These are burning questions that just NEED to be answered.
My world is also roughly circular and flat with a central star, has an alternate biosphere somewhat, and is season-less with a sun-worshipping imperialist human empire! Ours are different enough that I don't feel the need to scrap anything, but man, it's weird how completely different people can come up with such similar stuff. Loved this, really hope to see more Refugium!
"The only refuge for the inhabitants in the midst of an otherwise forbidding, unknowable void, a tiny speck of light and life in a vast oppressive, all-encompassing cosmic darkness." Okay, I can definitely see why you would worship the sun.
I've been watching your Alien Biospheres videos. I'm really glad I checked this video out though, it's absolutely fascinating. I'd love to hear more about it
Calling it now, the Sun moved a long time ago, which made civilization collapse, that's why Nhlogqwa is the oldest human settlement, that's why they had writing before everyone else, and why they lost it, and someday the sun will move again
I don't know much English, so I'm sorry. Biblaridion, you are a very good author and Creator of worlds. With your brilliant imagination, you can write books. So I'll be waiting for a book on this world. I liked everything about this world: the very concept of having a shelter that is illuminated by the sun. And these five main ones and one far moon are brilliant. By the way, it reminded me of Atlantis (this was a cartoon) I also liked the concept of the animal world from extinct animals: Andrews, halicoteri, Trilobites (for which a separate like). I also liked the animals you made up: Flying spiders, seal-like animals, and beautiful flightless bats. I will wait for the next videos on Refugium, especially about its animal world and the geography of the no written lands. Continue at the same pace and you will succeed. Definitely like it.
Wow, this is so damn interesting. Both the concept of the world and cultures in it seem SO unique and exciting. I really wish to learn more about this.
Just did the math, this would have a surface area of ~314,159,265 square kilometers, and earth has a surface area of ~510,100,000 kilometers, meaning this would only be about 3/5 the size of earth.
I expected a round world with a small, yellow sun, this was an extremely unexpected twist😂 But it was really interesting and actually quite inspiring for my own projects
@@joshtatko4806 Really? That's interesting, I would have expected that to be "industrial" rather than "post-industrial". It's always good to learn something new, thanks!
@@yf-n7710 of course! And I could be wrong because technically everything after the industrial revolution is "post-industrial" but I believe that's the general time period that phrase refers to. Glad I could help
Wow. I can show nothing but praise for your amazing skill, dedication, craftsmanship, and investment in this project. Truly inspiring. Yes, we would love to see more of these kinds of videos, even if they are far apart and less detailed than this one. If you ever do write that book, you can be sure we'll buy it. Keep on going great.
Btw, I also wanted made my own universe with languages, stories, countries, wars, etc... but you perfect linguist totaly showed that I am just shit, and my universe is shit - but it's also very big universe with tons of planets and multiverses, but that doesn't mean that my universe is good (it's just trash). But thank you for showing me that. You are genius, and you have talent.
Absolutely love the worldbuilding. I would like a future video expanding more on the biospheres and climates that would arise in such a world. The main things that intrigue me are how flora would adapt to these static climates that exist. Assuming these are earth-plants ported over, we know some attributes that would determine growing zones. For example, woody plants cannot exist on earth in climates with yearly average temperatures below 5 Celsius; this is one reason why treelines exist on mountains and in the polar regions. Another factor is that the process of photosynthesis cannot occur at temperatures above 38 Celsius, so likely no plants can live on that central plateau. Another thought: a static sun would mean that shadows are permanent. Any buildings, or local topography, that has a side with an angle steeper than the sun's rays at that location would have strong shadow that prevents plant growth. This would probably matter most with mountain ranges, where you would have permanently dark valleys on the sun-shadow side. This would also mean forest canopies would develop perpendicular to the sunrays. Normal forests in and near the sunny region, but in the umbral regions forests should become more staggered strips of Tall, short, med, and then Tall as the sunlight is blocked and absorbed by the trees. Overall, there are so many cool environments that I could imagine would develop in the Refugium, and I would love to know your thoughts and ideas on this.
Please I need this series to come back I want to know all the ecology if this world especially what’s in the darkness cause Ik there’s some scary stuff there and I can’t wait to see what’s in there
5:39 There have actually been flightless bats but they didn't last long and went extinct pretty early after starting to exist (according to the fossil record which isn't very good) Edit: They did still have wings however the were just too big to fly unlike the ones in this video which just had no wings
One question: If the world is actually legitimately flat, wouldn’t the “sun” be the same height in the sky regardless of your location? Very creative world.
Yeah but the further you get from it the more the light is dispersed and the darker it gets like going deeper underwater only slower cuz atmosphere isn’t as dense as water.
I'm in love with this world! I would love to see more content about it, I have so many questions. Reminds me of SCP 5005: Lamplight because of the stationary light source vs mysterious void that can drive crazy. Really well done.
My Refugium inspired alternate universe, The Expanse: The Expanse is a world similar in many regards to The Refugium (flat world, 1 sun, 5 moons, no stars, umbral region) but the lines between gas, liquid, and the vacuum of space is very thin leading to a breathable atmosphere and space that you can swim through. All life inhabiting The Expanse possess a 4-part diagonal jaw structure (4 jaws which open diagonally), 2 antennae like structures used for both hearing and gas exchange (basically gill ears), 4 camera style eyes, 2 limbs, and a tail. The sky is separated into 3 zones which get darker the further up you go; these zones share the same names as the ocean zones on Earth. The Expanse possesses 2 sapient Genus's which both possess 2 limbs similar to those of a Pterodactyl (but with a thumb), a mudskipper like walking gait (except the tail is used in walking), and a prehensile tail which works in place of a hand (possessing a flat end split in 2 which can curl around objects to grab them).
No life on earth exists in the expanse, and all bird like clades are replaced by clades more adapted for swimming on Earth due to the nearly non existent line between liquid, gas, and vacuum.
The 2 intelligent genus's of the refugium have reached a level of advancement seen during the 1970's on Earth yet have advanced socially and culturally several millennia beyond humanity as we know it today.
The 2 Genus's (which I will now be calling the Ketzu) communicate through a series of clicks, whistles, howls, coos, kraas, and even licks (albeit only as a display of affection).
The Ketzu evolved on Ka'Tzu (a Taiga Island continent the size of Antarctica) from flying ancestors who often dropped stones on their ground dwelling prey to hunt.
The Expanse possesses a habitable range of about 9 Earths in diameter with all other regions being only inhabited by protocells around Hydrothermal vents (which have remained the same due to their simplicity and environment preventing any changes).
and that is exactly why i stay the hell away from conlanging, it's so amazing that if you walk into it you will never write another story. it consumes you wholesome...
I love how creative you are with your worldbuilding. I swear I could listen to you talk about your world and how it works for hours, it's just too fascinating! Super impressive.
Damn. I *really* enjoy worldbuilding that uses a rather outlandish concept (like a flat world with a fixed sun) and takes it seriously and fleshes things out logically from there. Your Alien Biosphere series, the glowfic Silmaril, Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere, some of my favorite stories and worlds are structured like this. The alternate evolutionary path is also lovely, and I'd love to see more sophisticated biology in fantasy worldbuilding.
I'm just gonna throw out a guess here, but the reason Nhlogqwa has the oldest traces of human civilization despite lying entirely in the Far Regions is because it used to be the old Central Region, isn't it? I bet the sun moves every 6000 years or so, or it can be made to move.
I'm 2 years late but I think it's because the humanity originated in what is now the night lands but then something happened (Like the sun dimming) and they had to move closer to the sun.
@@kakahass8845 If you're correct about this, do you think this could also mean that the Central Region was far too hot for habitation back in the day, only becoming habitable quite recently?
A single frame has got me hooked on this world's story. I hope you really continue to share this amazing story with us! But damn you man, this vid is going to stick in my head for weeks now, the theory's are forming and questions rising in my head! thanks for the awesome content! KEEP IT UP!
this is my second favorite world after the song of ice and fire due to the detail in general like world-building, flora, and fauna, but I still like asoiaf a bit more due to its more detailed politics and human history. good job man, your work in conlanging has inspired me greatly thank you.
I just found out about your channel and i gotta say im really amazed. I myself started a „con-universe“ where i try to piece together all of my con-langs, con-worlds and con-cultures in 2014 and didnt really think that there are any other people doing this as well! I thought i‘m a bit strange for developing and creating such a complex connected universe as a hobby in my free time but its really great seeing others doing it as well! I love your work! Subbed immediately!
I'm sure you've already worked this out, but given how much closer the center of the world is to the sun compared to the outer regions, it seems like the temperature differential should be much greater than we see. If it's 1000 km above ground level at the center, and the outer regions are like 5000 km out, then the inverse-square law means the sunlight, and thus the thermal energy input, should be just 26 times more intense at the center than at the edge of the outer regions! Intuitively, it seems like that should either make the center an absolute furnace, or else make the outer regions utterly frozen.
@@Nemo_Anom or that their perception of temperature differential and light differential is skewed. Standard room temperature would probably seem like a frozen wasteland to them, that or the light isn't as intense.
Hey dude, first off no hate and I’m wishing you the absolute best with this project, but this is remarkably similar to a world I’ve been tinkering with, also for about a decade now. I had the idea while looking up at my fan and textured ceiling and imagining it as a map with a stationary, unmoving source of light in the center and “fan blade” moons. It seems like you must have had pretty much the exact same thought. After I had the initial idea, I gradually added to it. PBS Eons and other such content that I’ve watched throughout the years inspired me to start populating the world with prehistoric/prehistoric-inspired animals. Again, it wouldn’t surprise me if your creative process has been similar. When you see a cool animal in a video and you have a world-building side project (however seriously or casually you approach it), it’s a very short leap to think of something similar to add to it. Now, you’ve clearly been more active in developing and promoting your take on the idea - I’ve been toying with the possibility of making videos and fleshing the idea out more someday (just trying to finish university first) - but I have to say, it makes me kinda anxious that the idea is no longer exactly “mine”. Thought I was sitting on a gold mine of creativity. I have no clue how actively I’ll pursue this idea once I finally have the time, but I’m getting this out there now just in case people think I stole my idea from you. Again, best of luck in your creative endeavors, and I might have to go back to the drawing board to make it a bit more unique.
So what I'm wondering is what if a civilization in the refugium reached an equivalent of rocket technology that allowed them to explore the dark areas? Would there be other refugiums, which would be like finding other planets?
"Which I steadily began writing up into a book.
But then I got distracted from the story by the worldbuilding,
and then I got distracted from the worldbuilding by the conlanging."
I relate way too much to these sentences.
I also relate to this because I get distracted from everything by anything
This move is called the Tolkien
Reverse Tolkien
Big fat mood
I felt a sharp pain in my soul hearing that
Honestly if he were to continue his alien biospheres series into sapience and make a history like this world's i would honestly just die from joy
Agreed
Please yes!
I'd love to see him come up with some languages for them too
@@oogaboogabe3464 oh yes that would also be incredible!
I just assumed that's what he was doing.
18:48 If you can pause right there, there's a single frame of some kind of logo.
Please be foreshadowing. And please more Refugium: this is even better than I had hoped.
Edit: yep, it’s Aan
Lol I noticed it earlier but I thought it was an editing mistake. I managed to stop it right were it shows the logo. Looks really strange tbh
I thought I missed a video or something cause I don't recognize this logo, hope it's foreshadowing
Oh it most definetly is foreshadowing
I can't wait to see what it means.
@h I'm on mobile :,(
Refugium? An interesting name, to say the least. I like it.
I’d love to see what happens when they discover electricity and explore the shadow lands, it sounds really interesting.
Or lava flows, or glowing orbs of light due to chemical and pressure differences. They don't really need to harness electricity like we did.
The sun is also inherently magical but the people don't seem to have magical tools or spells so I'm curious about this too
They will found our that the rest of the planet is ded and they are in fact one planet drifting through void between galaxies, kept alive by the unexplainable energy source.
@@dandanthedandan7558 sounds like it's not their design. And the whole world sounds like science experiment of some sort. I like it.
Yeah like the thermal vents but on land or even other suns
"Due to certain events" ominous
*Diana Cavendish profile pic*
ah, a fellow conlang weeb
little do we know it’s just climate change
@@jslice6137 lmao
I like to imagine they managed to get up to the sun and somehow managed to blow it up thus freezing over the refugium and killing everyone
@@Pharry_ Tower of Babel: USA Edition
Tsannur:Collapse 6 times
China:Those are rookie numbers
I had flashbacks to History of the entire world I guess as soon as he mentioned that
France: are you challenging me?
“China is whole again!”
“Then it broke again!”
Albania?
Wow. I’ve literally never considered a world like this. With different physical mechanisms to create reality. Most fictional worlds are boring compared to this. It’s genuinely incredible.
Reminds me of a world of mine from when I was 12 that's on the inside, rather than outside, of a giant sphere, with the sun (actually the corpse of a god, slowly decomposing and going black) in the middle. I should do something with that.
@@thegreatdream8427 good idea. These worlds are fascinating. My love is history. Fictional history can be just as compelling.
You should check out Worldbuilding Notes, she has a lot of worlds with interesting physical mechanisms!
I hope later when they have better technology they go explore the dark lands. I really wanna see what’s in there. I think it could be done using flashlights and very insulated suits akin to our space suits that we use, just minus the oxygen tanks and probably colored black instead of white to attract more heat. I’d also bring weapons in case those silhouettes of beasts that you mention weren’t fairytales. And of course, a lot of food.
A lot of food and a lot of fuel
@@penfelyn Yeah, fuel too.
17:45
"Many say that staring into the darkness for too long will drive one mad"
If it does actually drive one mad, you can't really do anything to go there, there's probably something very powerful you don't want to see.
I'm interested to see how scary the darkness could be.
@@aeaeeaoiauea Considering Biblaridion’s universes are usually science based, I feel like the going mad part might be a fairytale.
@@mosterchife6045 Yeah, true.
The amount of effort you put into this is just breathtaking, i could barely make one conlang, let alone an entire world of them. Its very inspiring . Ive been watching you for a while, and seeing an overview of everything is really appreciated! Thanks!
I believe that, if you get nothing else from Biblaridion's fantastic body of work so far, you should know that you CAN make a conlang, one that you are proud of and others will be interested in. All you need is a little thought, a lot of time, and some modicum of work, and you can take what you've learned here and make something that will inspire other would-be conlangers.
I personally realized that I have no particular interest in conlanging. Linguistic trivia is fascinating and seeing how stuff fits together is amazing, but what I'm into is the worldbuilding, so I focused on what I cared about rather than trying to do everything. So my world has one-dimensional languages that were generated by a script, but all of my effort goes into figuring out how the societies work and where they came from.
Mapping vids in 2019: "Germany in a nutshell" "Italy vs. Poland" "Alternate future of Europe"
Mapping vids in 2020:
Вижу, вы человек изысканного вкуса🧐
is it really mapping tho
Oh, a biblwatcher with a russian name. I thought that I won't find any beside of me
@@penfelyn да я тоже в шоке)
@@penfelyn a what?
"Home to all except one of my conlangs" hmm, I wonder which...;p
Little does he know that the gods who built this world spoke Thandian. And for that reason alone, their speech is not decipherable by us mere mortals.
It might be the one he’s currently making a series about
@@adridaplague-boi it definitely is that one, he said it in one of his videos iirc
Thandian was kinda the oldest iteration of Edun. notice how “Tsann(ur)” and “Thand” line up, and how langs like Ilothwii were made soon after the abandoning of Thandian
that doesn't include discontinued and scrapped projects tho
2:51 if, hypothetically, someone were to scour the umbral plains, seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him, would those that tasted the bite of his sword call him anything in particular?
@Ezh__ Its a Doom reference lol
tHe dOOm SlaYeR *doot*
The Gloom Slayer
This feels like an obvious reference to something that I don’t get
Yes. More refugium is DEFINITELY needed, would love to hear more about the Nhlogqwa- BTW are they racially distinct from the other groups or just an extension of one of the other races?
They are the speakers of Ilothwii
I think they are the same race/subspecies as the thireans and the people of Tsannur. Thirea is the only major landmass close to Nhlogqwa so I don't think its anything else. Also, I think if it were a distinct race/subspecies he would mention it like he mentioned for the other cases.
In the Ilothwii video, he mentioned that the Ilothwii language was suspected to share a very distant common ancestor with the Thirean languages Nekachti and Edun. This leads me to suspect these peoples are of common stock, but that they have probably formed a distinct population given the time since divergence and the geographical isolation of the islands.
5:48 ".... flying spiders...."
Thanks, I hate it.
he had a glyph for flying spider in one of his conlangs. now it makes sense.
And you'll also hate that it is hypothetically possible for them to exist in real life
_i am sorry for having to bring that up to your information table_
@@alostalex7449 a number of spiders have bodies that can function similar to parachutes or sailing, so that they can glide in the wind or fall gracefully from heights. This is how golden orb weavers migrate.
[ɨᶰɢɨ]
At least how I think it is pronounced.
@@azechase6597 huh, good to know
Will you ever talk about how lexical stress can move from one syllable to another? Like how proto-Germanic had a sound change that moved stress to the first syllable of the root of the word, or how stress was moved from the final to the penultimate syllable in Cornish during the eleventh century
Sometimes is just... happens
The case with Proto-Germanic is just an example of leveling. In other words, in Pre-Proto-Germanic stress was unpredictable and had to be “memorized” for every word and created meaningful distinctions, whereas by Proto-Germanic it had become predictable and non-distinguishing.
In Proto-Germanic's case, it was because the distinction between PIE "accented" and "unaccented" syllables was destroyed and replaced
So I'm guessing shadows in this world would be somewhat unusual (outside the obvious Shadow Lands’ “shadows”), since shadows cast by the sun would be more or less permanent. I wonder what sort of unusual flora/fauna might develop within the larger areas of shadow cast by mountains, or canyons or other large features.
I also wonder if reflecting light would play a large role in the lives of the world’s people. Since the light from the sun is unmoving, you could easily set up any type of polished surface to reflect the sunlight towards a specific spot, and it wouldn't waiver or need adjusting (during the day obviously). Shutters and other simple mechanisms could be used to suddenly light, or darken, areas. The layout of buildings could be altered if natural light could be artificially directed into normally dark interiors; I can especially see religions utilizing reflected light for dramatic effect within their architecture or rituals. Things like solar ovens, water heater, etc. could be set up and would have a permanent, consistent, and easy to scale output. Long range communication systems could be set up relatively easily using focused light bounced from one reflected surface stationed at towers or some similar type of relays. I am absolutely not any sort of expert on light, or optics or anything related to this, so I will leave it there. I am worried I might be missing some obvious issues that make all of these concepts untenable, but my mind immediately ran away with ideas about this, and I wanted to at least mention them.
One final thought:
Since every "night" is essentially an eclipse, I wonder if the people of the world would give any special significance to those odd, crescent-shaped shadows that things like trees, and any other variation of a pinhole, cast right before and after totality. Or, would they just be considered completely normal, and treated as nothing more fantastic than an indicator for when night is approaching? Either way, I assume the people in the areas that experience the eclipses would have unique words for them, and they would likely feature in poetry and various sayings/idioms.
Sorry if that is a bit of a ramble. I felt the need to write this all down quickly before the concepts could get away from me. I just love these types of what-if worldbuilding concepts. Great vid Bib!
This is a very underrated comment, & is indicative of the kinds of imaginative consequential worldbuilding that Bib should incorporate into the Refugium, if he hasn't already.
Absolute banger comment wtf
Ever see those solar furances where they get all the light from a massive french hill and put it into one little spot? Imagine that but it was built in like ancient china for some cool reason im not creative enough to think of
I never clicked on anything this fast in my life
Neither have I
Same
Same
I feel you brother
YESSSS
18:47 flashy flashy
I'm really interested in this world now. Especially the eeriness of the dark lands and the "enormous ineffable things" that roam there. What's past these giant sheets of ice in the oceans? As mankind progresses, they would discover more and more about these fringe lands. It's all so interesting I'm really hoping to see more of this
They would explore the dark lands in a similar fashion to our world humans exploring outer space.
The Night Lands are so eerie! Legitimately terrifying! Well done!
I like how Thandian is included in the document. "Naturalistic (done badly), Deleted, still kept alive"
Are we all just going to ignore that right at the start he literally says that something happened to the entire populace? And then proceeds to constantly refer to every civilisation in the past tense.
Neat. I particularly dig your cosmological structure of multiple moons passing intricately between the land and sun in a manner that feels constructed, like the workings of a machine.
Headcanon: this world used to be a futuristic planet, spherical and everything (not earth). Then everything collapsed when their sun died. The remaining geniuses built an artificial sun over tsannur that only shines in a 6000 km radius. They also built moons for day/night cycle. A long time passed and humans started over. Nobody of the present knows any of the “sun dying” story.
Edit: grammar
"But then I got distracted from the story by the worldbuilding"
Same, same. Finished my novel's second draft just an hour ago after five years passed just writing, deleting, rewriting, redeleting and re-rewriting the worldbuilding :-D
I SAW THIS AND GOT SO HAPPY
I seriously want there to be a series about exploring the unknown parts of Refugium, like what's in the dark area? Or what are those moons supported by? These are burning questions that just NEED to be answered.
I have worlds I've been working for over a decade, I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Why not try to share them as well? Biblaridion proves that people are interested in well thought worldbuilding
@@raphaelzakhm7310 writing a fictional travel guide about them.
My world is also roughly circular and flat with a central star, has an alternate biosphere somewhat, and is season-less with a sun-worshipping imperialist human empire! Ours are different enough that I don't feel the need to scrap anything, but man, it's weird how completely different people can come up with such similar stuff. Loved this, really hope to see more Refugium!
This is how you train for fast screen tapping
i just watch on 0.25 speed lmao
"The only refuge for the inhabitants in the midst of an otherwise forbidding, unknowable void, a tiny speck of light and life in a vast oppressive, all-encompassing cosmic darkness."
Okay, I can definitely see why you would worship the sun.
I've been watching your Alien Biospheres videos. I'm really glad I checked this video out though, it's absolutely fascinating. I'd love to hear more about it
Biblaridon be posting really good content ngl doe😳
Using extinct animals for fantasy settings is something that I myself I do.
Who doesn't?
Been waiting for this ever since you mentioned it. Good work bib!
This here and the alien biospheres series are the crown jewels of this channel.
Calling it now, the Sun moved a long time ago, which made civilization collapse, that's why Nhlogqwa is the oldest human settlement, that's why they had writing before everyone else, and why they lost it, and someday the sun will move again
I don't know much English, so I'm sorry.
Biblaridion, you are a very good author and Creator of worlds. With your brilliant imagination, you can write books. So I'll be waiting for a book on this world.
I liked everything about this world: the very concept of having a shelter that is illuminated by the sun. And these five main ones and one far moon are brilliant. By the way, it reminded me of Atlantis (this was a cartoon)
I also liked the concept of the animal world from extinct animals: Andrews, halicoteri, Trilobites (for which a separate like). I also liked the animals you made up: Flying spiders, seal-like animals, and beautiful flightless bats.
I will wait for the next videos on Refugium, especially about its animal world and the geography of the no written lands.
Continue at the same pace and you will succeed. Definitely like it.
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@@uzer12345 да
Wow, this is so damn interesting. Both the concept of the world and cultures in it seem SO unique and exciting. I really wish to learn more about this.
I can't help but read your comment in a sarcastic tone XD
Just did the math, this would have a surface area of ~314,159,265 square kilometers, and earth has a surface area of ~510,100,000 kilometers, meaning this would only be about 3/5 the size of earth.
I expected a round world with a small, yellow sun, this was an extremely unexpected twist😂
But it was really interesting and actually quite inspiring for my own projects
18:47 weird simboly
*Presents extremely unusual and magical cosmology*
Yo I'd like to live there
*"Flying spiders"*
Never mind
If they have a "post-industrial modern age," do they ever make a robot that explores the night lands, like our Mars rovers?
I don't think he meant that modern judging by the picture
The "post-industrial modern age" is more like the time between the American Civil War and WWI and less like the Cold War era.
@@joshtatko4806 Really? That's interesting, I would have expected that to be "industrial" rather than "post-industrial". It's always good to learn something new, thanks!
@@yf-n7710 of course! And I could be wrong because technically everything after the industrial revolution is "post-industrial" but I believe that's the general time period that phrase refers to. Glad I could help
I love how the background music mirrors that of the conlang showcase videos, with the same music playing at 7:00 as the Edun showcase etc.
Wow. I can show nothing but praise for your amazing skill, dedication, craftsmanship, and investment in this project. Truly inspiring. Yes, we would love to see more of these kinds of videos, even if they are far apart and less detailed than this one. If you ever do write that book, you can be sure we'll buy it. Keep on going great.
"Flying spiders"
*Adds Refugium to list of places I'll never visit*
18:22
That took a bleak, Lovecraftian turn.
Everyone gangster till Bib starts talking about the 'things' moving in the Night Lands
This person is pure Genius!!
Btw, I also wanted made my own universe with languages, stories, countries, wars, etc... but you perfect linguist totaly showed that I am just shit, and my universe is shit - but it's also very big universe with tons of planets and multiverses, but that doesn't mean that my universe is good (it's just trash).
But thank you for showing me that.
You are genius, and you have talent.
Absolutely love this, would definitely watch more worldbuilding and exploration of this world
Absolutely love the worldbuilding. I would like a future video expanding more on the biospheres and climates that would arise in such a world. The main things that intrigue me are how flora would adapt to these static climates that exist. Assuming these are earth-plants ported over, we know some attributes that would determine growing zones. For example, woody plants cannot exist on earth in climates with yearly average temperatures below 5 Celsius; this is one reason why treelines exist on mountains and in the polar regions. Another factor is that the process of photosynthesis cannot occur at temperatures above 38 Celsius, so likely no plants can live on that central plateau.
Another thought: a static sun would mean that shadows are permanent. Any buildings, or local topography, that has a side with an angle steeper than the sun's rays at that location would have strong shadow that prevents plant growth. This would probably matter most with mountain ranges, where you would have permanently dark valleys on the sun-shadow side. This would also mean forest canopies would develop perpendicular to the sunrays. Normal forests in and near the sunny region, but in the umbral regions forests should become more staggered strips of Tall, short, med, and then Tall as the sunlight is blocked and absorbed by the trees.
Overall, there are so many cool environments that I could imagine would develop in the Refugium, and I would love to know your thoughts and ideas on this.
Please I need this series to come back I want to know all the ecology if this world especially what’s in the darkness cause Ik there’s some scary stuff there and I can’t wait to see what’s in there
This reminds me of the world of the Stormlight Archive - and that's just about the highest praise I can give.
I see you're a man of culture as well ;)
@@halyoalex8942 Strength before weakness
@@WasatchWind Journey before destination
5:39 There have actually been flightless bats but they didn't last long and went extinct pretty early after starting to exist (according to the fossil record which isn't very good)
Edit: They did still have wings however the were just too big to fly unlike the ones in this video which just had no wings
It’s always makes my day to watch your videos. I can’t even begin to imagine how you start would plan all think all these things through. 👍
Honestly, I'd LOVE to visit Hal-Hamat or Ithqunja', or even a Suma'a city.
This was an AMAZING video. I think it`s the only video better than your alien biospheres series.
Don’t think I missed that at 18:48
Sneaky....
the night lands is the perfect opportunity for some cosmic horror
One question: If the world is actually legitimately flat, wouldn’t the “sun” be the same height in the sky regardless of your location?
Very creative world.
Yeah but the further you get from it the more the light is dispersed and the darker it gets like going deeper underwater only slower cuz atmosphere isn’t as dense as water.
This is great, and I’d love to see more from the Refugium!
Oh my goodness my previous comment was right, you have such an amazing world! Imma go binge the conlang showcases, you're amazing
quality as always man
I love it, I definetly want to see more of your worldbuilding projects. Very interesting stuff.
I'm in love with this world! I would love to see more content about it, I have so many questions. Reminds me of SCP 5005: Lamplight because of the stationary light source vs mysterious void that can drive crazy. Really well done.
My Refugium inspired alternate universe, The Expanse: The Expanse is a world similar in many regards to The Refugium (flat world, 1 sun, 5 moons, no stars, umbral region) but the lines between gas, liquid, and the vacuum of space is very thin leading to a breathable atmosphere and space that you can swim through. All life inhabiting The Expanse possess a 4-part diagonal jaw structure (4 jaws which open diagonally), 2 antennae like structures used for both hearing and gas exchange (basically gill ears), 4 camera style eyes, 2 limbs, and a tail. The sky is separated into 3 zones which get darker the further up you go; these zones share the same names as the ocean zones on Earth. The Expanse possesses 2 sapient Genus's which both possess 2 limbs similar to those of a Pterodactyl (but with a thumb), a mudskipper like walking gait (except the tail is used in walking), and a prehensile tail which works in place of a hand (possessing a flat end split in 2 which can curl around objects to grab them).
No life on earth exists in the expanse, and all bird like clades are replaced by clades more adapted for swimming on Earth due to the nearly non existent line between liquid, gas, and vacuum.
The 2 intelligent genus's of the refugium have reached a level of advancement seen during the 1970's on Earth yet have advanced socially and culturally several millennia beyond humanity as we know it today.
The 2 Genus's (which I will now be calling the Ketzu) communicate through a series of clicks, whistles, howls, coos, kraas, and even licks (albeit only as a display of affection).
The Ketzu evolved on Ka'Tzu (a Taiga Island continent the size of Antarctica) from flying ancestors who often dropped stones on their ground dwelling prey to hunt.
The Expanse possesses a habitable range of about 9 Earths in diameter with all other regions being only inhabited by protocells around Hydrothermal vents (which have remained the same due to their simplicity and environment preventing any changes).
and that is exactly why i stay the hell away from conlanging, it's so amazing that if you walk into it you will never write another story. it consumes you wholesome...
lovely to see you again
18:48 wtf was that logo? Also, I would love to see more of the Refugium.
I love how creative you are with your worldbuilding. I swear I could listen to you talk about your world and how it works for hours, it's just too fascinating! Super impressive.
Damn. I *really* enjoy worldbuilding that uses a rather outlandish concept (like a flat world with a fixed sun) and takes it seriously and fleshes things out logically from there. Your Alien Biosphere series, the glowfic Silmaril, Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere, some of my favorite stories and worlds are structured like this.
The alternate evolutionary path is also lovely, and I'd love to see more sophisticated biology in fantasy worldbuilding.
This would be a great anthology series. It can just be short stories, or history books written by inhabitants of the world. There’s so much potential
God bless you, Bib.
So like Middle Earth before the third age. In the years of the lamp, trees, first age and second age up until the sundering of Númenor.
I'm just gonna throw out a guess here, but the reason Nhlogqwa has the oldest traces of human civilization despite lying entirely in the Far Regions is because it used to be the old Central Region, isn't it? I bet the sun moves every 6000 years or so, or it can be made to move.
THE FIRST THING SEEMS MORE REALISTIC maybe the Sun moves around wait then there's supposed to be some Remnants in the shadows
I'm 2 years late but I think it's because the humanity originated in what is now the night lands but then something happened (Like the sun dimming) and they had to move closer to the sun.
@@kakahass8845 If you're correct about this, do you think this could also mean that the Central Region was far too hot for habitation back in the day, only becoming habitable quite recently?
@@rickardspaghettiCorrect I also think that since Biblaridion mentioned that "Their ultimate fate is unknown" the sun is continuing to dim.
A single frame has got me hooked on this world's story. I hope you really continue to share this amazing story with us! But damn you man, this vid is going to stick in my head for weeks now, the theory's are forming and questions rising in my head! thanks for the awesome content! KEEP IT UP!
I get it. Thandian is native to the night lands.
this is my second favorite world after the song of ice and fire due to the detail in general like world-building, flora, and fauna, but I still like asoiaf a bit more due to its more detailed politics and human history.
good job man, your work in conlanging has inspired me greatly thank you.
This is extremely cool - I'd love to see more, especially about Nhlogqwa
I just found out about your channel and i gotta say im really amazed. I myself started a „con-universe“ where i try to piece together all of my con-langs, con-worlds and con-cultures in 2014 and didnt really think that there are any other people doing this as well! I thought i‘m a bit strange for developing and creating such a complex connected universe as a hobby in my free time but its really great seeing others doing it as well! I love your work! Subbed immediately!
This was a lot of fun I'd like to see more from the Refugium in the future
18:48 I think I found a logo here. It was kinda scary at first, I didn't expect that.
Interesting. Now I'm gonna binge on your conlang showcases.
I love the idea of making typical fantasy races into actual human subspecies instead of somehow not so despite being exactly like humans in every way
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I'm sure you've already worked this out, but given how much closer the center of the world is to the sun compared to the outer regions, it seems like the temperature differential should be much greater than we see. If it's 1000 km above ground level at the center, and the outer regions are like 5000 km out, then the inverse-square law means the sunlight, and thus the thermal energy input, should be just 26 times more intense at the center than at the edge of the outer regions! Intuitively, it seems like that should either make the center an absolute furnace, or else make the outer regions utterly frozen.
it's magic, man
@@Nemo_Anom or that their perception of temperature differential and light differential is skewed. Standard room temperature would probably seem like a frozen wasteland to them, that or the light isn't as intense.
"The lands of perpetual evening". The awesomeness of that sent shivers down my spine.
Ooh that was really nice! Hope we get to see more of that world later since it seems a lot of work was put into it.
Hey dude, first off no hate and I’m wishing you the absolute best with this project, but this is remarkably similar to a world I’ve been tinkering with, also for about a decade now. I had the idea while looking up at my fan and textured ceiling and imagining it as a map with a stationary, unmoving source of light in the center and “fan blade” moons. It seems like you must have had pretty much the exact same thought.
After I had the initial idea, I gradually added to it. PBS Eons and other such content that I’ve watched throughout the years inspired me to start populating the world with prehistoric/prehistoric-inspired animals. Again, it wouldn’t surprise me if your creative process has been similar. When you see a cool animal in a video and you have a world-building side project (however seriously or casually you approach it), it’s a very short leap to think of something similar to add to it.
Now, you’ve clearly been more active in developing and promoting your take on the idea - I’ve been toying with the possibility of making videos and fleshing the idea out more someday (just trying to finish university first) - but I have to say, it makes me kinda anxious that the idea is no longer exactly “mine”. Thought I was sitting on a gold mine of creativity. I have no clue how actively I’ll pursue this idea once I finally have the time, but I’m getting this out there now just in case people think I stole my idea from you.
Again, best of luck in your creative endeavors, and I might have to go back to the drawing board to make it a bit more unique.
Would love to see your vedio!
i dont just want more videos like this, I NEED MORE
Every body gangsta till you wake up in the Night Lands
Yeah, I'd like to see more videos like this one.
The single bastion of light among an ocean of darkness brings back fond memories of City of Ember.
You expected Alien Biospheres..
BUT IT WAS ME REFUGIUM!
This will be a good meal for a setup for alien biospheres part 9
@@nullgabe08 but the tectonics don’t match???
Okay I did not expect that Lovecraftian turn in the end, I need more
You are insanely intelligent. To create so many new planets, cultures, languages, and animals all in your free time is truly amazing
So what I'm wondering is what if a civilization in the refugium reached an equivalent of rocket technology that allowed them to explore the dark areas? Would there be other refugiums, which would be like finding other planets?
Moral of the story; You can make any setting, no matter how silly it sounds to begin with, sound awesome if you just think about it.
Please please add an egypt-type civ in the desert to the left of the sun, a river in the middle of desert i would love
@Biblaridion please explore the history of this world in future videos. It is simply to good to be left here