Deforestation isn't just fueled by agriculture. Demand for the metals that power our phones and computers has led to more and more land cleared to make way for mining operations. Verge Science explains how our desire for new phones could lead to another pandemic: ua-cam.com/video/p5NeuFE-3ug/v-deo.html
Yeah, coltan is essential for making all kinds of electronics, it's mostly found on Africa and not only does it cause deforestation but also extreme poverty due to foreign companies taking all the profit and leaving none to the people.
Yet the land cleared for mining pales in comparison to animal agriculture. Your example shows consuming bushmeat as one of the vectors for a pandemic, if you think this is a large risk of zoonotic diseases causing pandemics, you should really worry about animal farming.
A lot of people don't think past themselves, the mentality "It's not gonna hurt/affect me so why should I care" is just terrible. This mentality applies to other things too and its sad.
@@davrocket5304 umm ok? I dont know what made you feel the need to reply to my comment with this as they are unrelated but cool for you dude, you do you I guess.
Scientists have actually been warning about this for quite some time. If we listened earlier, we could have prevented the emergence of all sort of deadly diseases, COVID-19 included.
This pandemic not so much because when China got informed between November and December they denied it USA got informed Trump didn't care until early March not just scientists but some doctors as well was warning like Dr Li
@@mrblitz198-4 neither did anyone else really. Until they realized they could use it to terrify the public they didn't care at all about this slightly super flu.
@@mrblitz198-4 Scientists have been warning about changes in land use effecting the spillovers and spread of viruses for some time. Even before 2019, scientists and doctors were concerned about coronaviruses because they were known to be zoonotic and the SARS and MERS viruses were both coronaviruses. The reason why we were so to late to address the coronavirus threat was because of not enough attention (ie finding) being given to the issue and politician's denial of the problem. Dr Li (the doctor who first sounded the alarm on COVID-19) was arrested by the Chinese government (and contracted COVID-19 in jail) and Trump was briefed on the COVID-19 outbreak in 2019 but didn't pay attention to it until March.
We've been living this scenario here in brazil for the past two decades too, with the outbreak of Dengue, Zika and other virus been carried by wild mosquitos who should've been in our forests
Coastal regions of Kenya also had outbreaks of smaller more manageable vector diseases in late 2017, 2018 and 2019. A major construction project ate huge swathes of previously untouched mangrove forests and led to explosions of Dengue, Chikungunya, Zika and many other mosquito spread diseases. At first they were all attributed as Malaria and later Dengue, but research later showed that health services in the region had not accounted for those diseases as they were not common.
@@sandrajones8245 maybe you need to understand a few things. First, there's not only one mosquito. There are dozen of species. 2nd, they are part of their ecosystems, maybe controlling other unwanted populations (like rats) or feeding others (like frogs, lizards, birds, etc) Many of those correlated species are really important either in the food chain or in pollination/dispersion of plants. Third, how exactly do you plan to extinct a mosquito species? Poisoning the water? The soil? There aren't species-specific poisons, you would cause a much worse catastrophe. Forth, we don't have the right to say which species lives or dies. Curb your arrogance. Go study some more.
"Contagion" perfectly portrayed this at the end of the film: a bulldozer toppled a banana tree where a bat was living. This bat flew to a pig pen while eating a piece of banana, which it dropped, and the piece was eaten by a pig. This pig became infected with the bat's virus, which mutated. And when that pig was slaughtered to be made into a meal at a Hong Kong restaurant, the chef handling the pig did not wash his hands when he shook hands with Gwenyth Paltrow's character, who interacted with other individuals at that casino before she traveled home to the United States and the "MEV-1" pandemic begins.
I personally think about the ending of the Planet of the Apes reboot, where a human got a disease from one of the apes and then went on a flight, causing it spread to other countries. I feel that also fits.
97RAVINEAVE it’s not an actual spoiler. This detail hardly matters in the movie. The movie is more concerned about how people deal with pandemics and contain them, not as much where they originate.
Deforestation and mass extinction are definitely important factors in the rise of zoonotic diseases, but the biggest thing humans are doing that makes these outbreaks more likely is factory farming. In nature, it takes a longer time for diseases to spread between individuals and species, mutate in the new hosts, and spread to humans, but in wet markets and factory farms we have all these animals crammed together in conditions that make them sick and allow diseases to spread rapidly, and then we interact with them. I'm really disappointed that this wasn't even acknowledge in the video, especially considering animal agriculture is a huge cause of deforestation too
Duuude, this is a 6 minute video about one specific topic and one reason. There is no need to name dropping other reasons, if they are not fully explained. Especially since @vox did publish a thorough video about the wet markets.
5:50 Sounds like you cut her off, animal agriculture and markets are responsible for the majority of zoonotic diseases. You mention deforestation but not diving into what actually causes the majority of deforestation - animal agriculture
The ending of this video makes me so mad. They talk about the animals on the planet and humans as separate entities. We are animals. Anything we do to the planet happens to us too. The first step in rethinking how Humanity treats nature is to stop thinking that we are separate from it.
Show this to a random millionaire in Dubai, or New Yrok, or to half educated man. They both wont take anything out of this. They see what they want, belive what they want. Materialism is killing us.
Good_Joe but if you say that communism has nothing to do with materialism then youre not right. See, communism is about equality both in financial and rights, its not just about lies and ambiguity like you guys always think. Im not saying that I like communism but that is a fact
There are some viruses which are affected by temperature and so have a less of an impact in tropical countries. People hoped that the coronavirus would be one such too but it isn't.
@s 400 Yep, you're totally right. That's exactly how each and every Zoonotic pathogen has spread to humans - someone decided it'd be a fun Halloween prank, so they went out into the forests, caught a bunch of different animals, and got to work. No other cause there. None whatsoever.
animal agriculture too cmon. people aren’t ready to talk about the worldwide benefits for humankind of plant based diets. most of the rapid destruction of the amazon rainforest is due to cattle farming (including soybean crops used to feed them,) most of ocean plastic is discarded fishing gear, overall animal ag perpetrates environmental racism & classism, 50% of plant crops feed animals, and overall animal ag unfathomably produces more pollution, greenhouse gases, and is more intensive in water use than plant crops. it is long past time to admit that water scarcity, pollution and climate change aren’t “tree hugger” issues, they are human rights crises.
Dude you know that we are built to also eat meat right? We are omnivores. Meat provides a lot of benefits to our bodies and helps us grow. That said I do believe we should treat farm animals nicely and kindly before slaughtering them
@@phoenixchase9271 Actually there's a very famous guy for giving lectures on this, can't remember his name but has a lot of research on a theory of his that we are actually not designed to eat meat. I don't agree nor disagree, I think we can, but I also think we can choose not to. There are people who have been vegan for years or even decades, many celebrities included. I believe some bodies can carry a vegan diet (with suplements of course) and some can't, maybe a matter of genetics or consciousness. But your argument that we are omnivores is not an argument, and both the animal abuse and pollution should be dealt with and not just by treating animals nicely, people in the world consume a ton of times the amount meat their body needs, every single day, we're talking about addiction and commodity now, not survival. What i believe is needed is for people to actually care for their own health and go to a nutritionist so they learn how to eat properly respecting their own bodies and the animals and things the earth has to offer.
Phoenix Chase no one here is forcing anything on you. i just stated facts that animal ag and commercial fishing are much worse for the environment than plant food. and vectors for the zoonotic diseases talked about in this video. u can do whatever you want with the info.
Ian Gonzalez agreed on all counts. there are definitely cultural and socioeconomic nuances to who can even be vegan. and also it seems some people aren’t able to stay healthy, but most of the time a b12 or iron supplement can fix that. not in every case tho so i get what you’re saying. personally i’ve been vegan 6 years, take b12 everyday and my body feels way better than when i ate animal products.
While that is true, the population is starting to plateau. Although population is often seen as growing exponentially, it’s actually in an S shape so we do need to live more sustainably, but it isn’t the amount of people directly affecting the earth, but rather the way we are affecting the earth
It's concerning what's going to happen with our planet. The single most effective way to create change on a personal level is to eliminate animal products from our diet.
Deathmonkeyjaw actually I’m 29. Everyone of all ages is allowed to contemplate their own future. Especially during times of tension. The fact you thought you were criticising a 12yr old makes you a sad person.
It's not all grim, nature has a tendency to be resilient to such large scale bio-diversity disruptions. The probabilities of transfer of pathogens and adaptability in genome sequences are small (although, not miniscule). So I guess, we deal with pandemics one at a time, and hope we can establish a synergy with nature to avoid more outbreaks in our lifetimes.
_Ordinary people_ are paying the price for the elite agenda of totalitarian control. Our pain and discomfort makes billions for the orchestrators. And it's gonna keep getting worse.
High time we switched to plant based diet, not reduce but switch, the positive side effect of that would be greater utilisation of our resources and also huge reduction in carbon footprint and pollution caused by meat farming and also prevent a pandemic that could wipe out the human population from this planet.
the carbon footprint wouldn’t decrease unless you use those crops for gas. also think abt water. in order to keep those plants alive you have to water them but what abt the sea life. you would be using a lot more water to water the plants. the factories also have to process that food which doesnt help the carbon food print. then you have to think abt where were going to put animals if we dont eat them. we cant just let them free because they might be an invasive species to that area. we also don’t want to overpopulate. everything has to go through the food chain. thats a reason why they are here in the first place. there has to be a balance. there are always going to be problems to a solution but vegansim isnt completely the answer.
@@anayaj7163 you know... Most of the crops that we farm go to cattle, so if we stop eating meat we wouldn't need to waste water on their food. You said that what would we do with the animals that are left, well i guess people would eat them and then stop breeding more animals, so yes, veganism is the answer
elimating animal from our diet means more land needed for plant growth because human turn to plant based diet, this means more deforestation to be able to supply to more humans, nitrate based fertilizer will also be used more often and disrupted local aqua ecosystem.need to think further and in my opinion portion control and birth control is more effective than veganism
Draggy Leong you won’t necessarily increase land usage. Nowadays about 60% of agriculture is used to feed livestock. Besides the areas to raise actual livestock are huge because of the contamination spread by antibiotics and feces, making them pretty much dead zones.
@@patriciozavalareyes2757 places used for planting is also a deadzone bacause all nutrient has been sapped by the plant or the excess use of fertilizer cause ecoimbalance, it's really quite tricky to say one side or another is better
@@xfactor5326 lifestock market only become a breeding ground of bacteria and other pathegon because of immoral and unsanitary practise, can u say that shifting to a plant only market will decrease the likelihood of the pp who want to mass produce these foods for profit will care for sanitation and the ethic of their action , I don't think so. Only by decreasing the demand for these market (eat less, less population require food) that we can truly help this problem
Actually there are not and have never been mandatory wearing of masks in Denmark either. We had a strict lockdown in early March and have since mid May slowly opened up for more and more things and that seems to have worked fairly well. Just after the lockdown it seemed like it could still go very wrong with the spreading, but it has since declined. There have been a few localized spikes after the slow opening but so far it has been under control. We have reasonly opened up the borders to most of EU, so let's see if that changes anything in a couple of weeks.
Michael Holm If, like the birds, we have a large demographic that gets mild symptoms, the young and older healthy, then the virus should gradually fade in its severity of infection. It'll not disappear but we'll be more resilient to it. Yet we focus on putting people in isolation where it thrives in enclosed spaces. Very little makes sense but then the actual science behind the policy is so conflicting that it's who you back rather than who's correct.
This is not the right attitude to deal with the current situation. Becoz if we keep doing blindly what we have been already doing then the future will be even worst than our imagination. So we need to figure out our wrong doings and rectify them.
@@geneal1989 It's not just about them as zoonotic vectors. They are also the reason we're using so much land (as in, other species habitats). And even if they can be hypothetically "better controlled", by the sheer numbers, they are extremely dangerous. They're also entirely unnecessary.
@@geneal1989 Unlikely as we had major outbreaks and pandemics in the past from animal agriculture, wild animals carry pathogens to livestock/markets is how it was probably likely how we got Covid-19
@@MarcelRiegler agricultural land being useless is another debate but relatively most of the deadly diseases that had been really a major problem are coming more from the wild than from animals in agriculture.
These are a lot of different ways of saying that if we stopped eating animal products we could free up at least 70% of agricultural land and allow that land to rewild.
Abolishing healthy meat consumption won't be an option. But endlessly expanding land into unknown territory where risky species live, indulging in mass deforestation, and keeping up a large illegal wildlife trade with no environmental/health regulations isn't safe whatsoever and should be countered.
@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 America is the only country in the world where the average person eats over 100 lbs of meat annually. We can all definitely stand to scale back on meat consumption.
@@midnightmusic1087 yeah. But what are we gonna replace the 70% of animal products with. I know we are eating a lot more meat than we should even for our health. But even with a healthy consumption I don't think we'll be eating 70% less
DannyDangers Ye I know I was just saying that because of how they were talking about forests when Dubai and Riyadh are built in deserts 😅 And it is somewhat true with Saudia arabia as the virus MERS came from there
Bob-Manuel yes , but , In a nutshell , a lot of countries have been cutting trees (which belongs to wild animals that has these diseases ....) The animals are coming in contact with these people and then these people will spread the virus....
"And crawling on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in time and lost space and meaning" - The Criminologist. The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
After watching lots of videos like this and reflecting through it, now I feel like our generation is really f*cked up. Truth really hurts and I really hate it that we the next adults will have to deal with this. Living in a Third World country where we depend mostly on powerful countries' technology in where we believe that will help us fight global warming, climate change, diseases especially this pandemic and other world problems that we are dealing right now. Then witnessing world leaders to just be in the comfort zone telling people comforting lies. I feel like most of the world leaders not all of them though, they just wanted us to put our trust to them. While they are enjoying their luxurious lives, we the people are experiencing this unpleasant feeling and not really certain on what could possibly happen in the future. We are being fed up by lies telling us not to worry about everything even though we are being slowly being drowned by Mother Nature's wrath. Well yeah it does help ones mental health to not to worry. But the question is can we still live life normally in the future, the normal lives that we used to be living?
Hey I'm glad you have empathy but thinking about it as "invading their home" still implying we're separated and doesn't help understanding we don't own the earth. It's a good starting point but it does not really allow progress.
What's even more twisted is that we destroy the homes of some animals to raise and feed other animals that end up in our plates. Animal agriculture is a destructive practice that should be ended, and this video should've talked about it.
" You are not a human, you are an animal". But animals are nicer than humans lol Edit: Thoughts of a thirteen year old boy who has nothing to do with life
We sing about the circle of life while at the same time saying we’re at the top of the food chain. For every action, there is a reaction. When you disrupt the balance of nature, nature fights back to reclaim order from the chaos we’ve created. We’re so selfish...
And yet, selfishness drove life for billions of years, in an endless cycle of selection and survival, until we came, and coinceived morals, ethics, mercy and kindness, all foreign concepts to nature. And that's why we are getting unrightfully punished: for being sentient, for being more than animals who blindly follow their instinct. Nature is Macchiavellian and Reactionary, Humanity is Idealistic and Libertarian, but we are pitted against ourselves by what nature favored: selfishness. Don't get me wrong: we still need nature to sustain ourselves, but once technology advances enough, i think we will become the gods we prayed and begged for salvation and forgiveness.
No, we’re all responsible. Think about when you drop plastic on the ground, use too much water, etc. We’re the only animal on the planet they can manipulate our environment to be better for our survival, and while we do that, we have to be cautious of the impact we have while we are here to make it better for the future. We can start by bring a “moderate“, just like chocolate, everything in moderation is best. Clean up after yourself, and you will make an impact.
Except for sentience, higher intelligence, use of complex language, ability of complex reasoning, ability for abstract thought, and advanced technology/society yeah humans are essentially the same as all other animals 🙃
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I live in Amazon, in it's capital, and I didn't know how much the rain forest here have been taken down since a few years ago on high school. Once in a geography class, I saw in the text book two satelite images of the Amazon forest, they were about 20 years apart. The difference was scary, the region showed was pretty much fully deforested. A lot of people that I know don't even talk about this situation. They just know that deforestation happens and life goes on.
The following facts showed that Covid-19 existed way before China first identified it as a deadly virus in 27 Dec 2019: 1. “Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample: Spanish study” - University of Barcelona, Jun 26 2020 2. “Virus already in Italy by December, waste water study finds” CTV News, Canada, 19 June 2020. 3. Brazil discovered that they had Covid-19 as early as Nov 2019, Federal University of Santa Catarina, 02 Jul 2020 4. Source: University of Cambridge research: Covid-19 evolved from Type A genome to Type B and later to Type C. Type A is primarily in the US. Type B is primarily in China. Type C is primarily in Europe. It’s interesting to figure out what this means? 5. The mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham said he contracted COVID-19 last November, a month before China even recorded any case. 6. The US’ CDC Director Robert Redfield unwittingly “spilled the beans”. He candidly admitted, yes, some cases diagnosed as seasonal flu could have been coronavirus. Source: CNN March 11, 2020. The question is: Has trump's government ignored all signs of Covid-19 as early as 2018 where 80,000 died of flu (US CDC) and conveniently classified it as seasonal flu? We could have easily controlled covid-19 had the US identified it as a deadly virus when it was budding back in 2018.
This is something I've never thought about when it comes to the drawbacks of urbanization. Hopefully with covid effecting everyone it'll start to make people think about the long term effects of urbanization and climate change.
I’m sure all of this is absolutely true, but I don’t see a tenable solution here. We can’t force people not to expand. We didn’t care when we decimated the habitats here in America and there are still a large majority of people in America that don’t care about the environment. And all of us don’t care about the environment enough to give up our way of life. We can’t ask developing countries to think about the effects of deforestation and loss of habitat. They don’t care, and they have a point. We can’t stop human expansion and the mass extinction of biodiversity that is to follow because of it. We’re going to have to adapt to that reality and figure other ways of preventing or at least reacting to the pandemics that are to come. I don’t mean to be a downer on what this video is trying to accomplish, but realistically, it’s accomplishing nothing. Even if people were willing to stop expanding because of potential pandemic prevention, this video isn’t being viewed by anyone who’s going to do something about it. I certainly can’t do anything about this problem.
Now just spit balling ideas here but human ingenuity may, in some unforeseen way, lead to a solution that would be a win- win scenario for humans and what others might call nature. Maybe like building vertically instead of horizontally like how New York has these really high buildings that can house thousands instead of hundreds or thousands of houses that take up space on the surface. Just food for thought.
@@xavierlopez88 you ever seen sky scrapers act like dominos? Still not a full proof plan. There really isn't a realistic way to "save all of humanity" like the guy said, and I completely agree. The least we can do is help ourselves while trying to keep positive in a realistic sense. Seriously all these people that preach for world peace, a greener planet, riddance of poverty and starvation and the end to all wars forget that this isn't Hollywood media, it's reality, and we'll never reach full in tranquility and bliss.
No matter how much we recycle, there's a factory less then 10mi away, paying for the right to dump billions of gallons of sewage and toxic sludge onto the Earth, into the air and water.
In addition to increasing spillovers, deforestation is contributing significantly to the spread of infectious diseases that already are already infecting humans, especially vector-borne diseases (diseases carried by mosquitoes). I think that could be something you should seriously consider making a video about, Vox.
"Humans are slowly killing themselves, other animals, and the environment itself while also making money" big companies : *_i see this as an absolute win !_*
@@anniebvl Sadly, it's true and I love a good steak. Diseases start when we put animals that we eat on land that used to be a forest teeming with millions of insects and rodents. Essentially, humans need to stop expanding livestock operations or pandemics will continue
@@StupidDummyIdiot I know that it's true. I've been a vegetarian (I do eat eggs because my doc told me to) all my life. It's the sad truth as you said. Pandemics are one of the reasons many people in Ancient India didn't eat any kind of meat/animal. There's been a new outbreak recently called the bubonic plague in China which comes from rodents and can be deadly if not treated.
We also accelerated the pandemic through our low cost, high-demand, all-efficient need to travel. There are (or were at the time) HUNDREDS of direct flights from the US to Wuhan, where COVID originated. How many Americans have heard of Wuhan?!
“Disease usually results from inconclusive negotiations for symbiosis, an overstepping of the line by one side, a biologic misinterpretation of borders” (from my college Microbiology course/book ("Microbiology: Principles and Explorations" by Black, 2008))
"...but what we find is that we have more human beings than animals nowadays. right? earlier, more animals were there in this world, that means we are progressing... so the point is that now we have been deforesting here, no forests are available, everything is being made into buildings, so those animal souls that are supposed to live in the forest, do not have a place to live, therefore they have come back as your own children... therefore you see them [wild animal sounds], and they're playing games, killing everybody. originally they are supposed to be animal souls, but since they have no opportunity to live in the forest..." - swami ishwarananda from chinmaya mission los angeles, usa
"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. ... There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus." Agent Smith. 1999.
Re: Your pinned comment Yes. However technology such as phones/computers is necessary, especially as we continue to move into a more technology-driven age. The amount of meat that is being eaten in many countries is absolutely not necessary. Drastically reducing our meat consumption (vegan, vegetarian, reducetarian or simply meatless-mondays) is the easiest way to decrease the demand for meat and therefore lessen the burden that factory farming has on our planet and subsequently our health. Vox, you consistently have very thorough videos, but this one missed the mark. I’m disappointed that this point was not driven home.
But they're not necessary; they're convenient, not necessary. You also don't need to update your phone every year. I had a flip-phone until 2018. It did performed its function; *it was a phone* . Planned obsolescence is a thing, and it's always been unsustainable.
@@P0k3D0nd3M4cG This is not true. Many developing countries do not use a laptop or a desktop entirely because their phones are capable. In fact overall it has reduced e waste and silicon needs. Improvement in technology leads to sustainability. It is definitely a need.
@@nandinhocunha440 the bat soup was from indonesia that chinese tourists were really into. Corona started in a chinese wet market then spread around. the reason its a pandemic isnt solely chinas fault. plenty of different countries or people to blame. Trumps inadequate response to the pandemic also can be blamed too no? basically what im saying is you are wrong
This is so sad and at the same time amazing. How well balanced Mother Nature is and how it defends herself. Sadly, I don’t see this pattern of animal exploitation ending anytime soon. 😔
People act like money is limited, and time is infinite. That's why they do so much for money just to find out that they're time is diminishing. Money is infinite. Time is not.
Deforestation isn't just fueled by agriculture. Demand for the metals that power our phones and computers has led to more and more land cleared to make way for mining operations.
Verge Science explains how our desire for new phones could lead to another pandemic: ua-cam.com/video/p5NeuFE-3ug/v-deo.html
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Yeah, coltan is essential for making all kinds of electronics, it's mostly found on Africa and not only does it cause deforestation but also extreme poverty due to foreign companies taking all the profit and leaving none to the people.
Lithium from salt lake mining threatens a major source not yet mined. It's not green to cause environmental destruction to create green power.
Yet the land cleared for mining pales in comparison to animal agriculture. Your example shows consuming bushmeat as one of the vectors for a pandemic, if you think this is a large risk of zoonotic diseases causing pandemics, you should really worry about animal farming.
A lot of people don't think past themselves, the mentality "It's not gonna hurt/affect me so why should I care" is just terrible. This mentality applies to other things too and its sad.
For us youngsters, it's best not to marry and populate. Life in the future isn't something viable for our children.
the source of virus is not from china: scientist analyzed sewage water and found out it was in from italy, brazil months ago before the wuhan case
@@davrocket5304 umm ok? I dont know what made you feel the need to reply to my comment with this as they are unrelated but cool for you dude, you do you I guess.
The whole country of US is based on this theory.
@@rendellvalles6749 I'm glad somebody gets it whoever's alive in 50 years or going to have a horrible existence
Scientists have actually been warning about this for quite some time. If we listened earlier, we could have prevented the emergence of all sort of deadly diseases, COVID-19 included.
This pandemic not so much because when China got informed between November and December they denied it USA got informed Trump didn't care until early March not just scientists but some doctors as well was warning like Dr Li
@@mrblitz198-4 neither did anyone else really. Until they realized they could use it to terrify the public they didn't care at all about this slightly super flu.
@Black_Eye Exactly. It is a real virus but it's being used for the completely wrong reason.
@Black_Eye How so?
@@mrblitz198-4 Scientists have been warning about changes in land use effecting the spillovers and spread of viruses for some time. Even before 2019, scientists and doctors were concerned about coronaviruses because they were known to be zoonotic and the SARS and MERS viruses were both coronaviruses. The reason why we were so to late to address the coronavirus threat was because of not enough attention (ie finding) being given to the issue and politician's denial of the problem. Dr Li (the doctor who first sounded the alarm on COVID-19) was arrested by the Chinese government (and contracted COVID-19 in jail) and Trump was briefed on the COVID-19 outbreak in 2019 but didn't pay attention to it until March.
We've been living this scenario here in brazil for the past two decades too, with the outbreak of Dengue, Zika and other virus been carried by wild mosquitos who should've been in our forests
Coastal regions of Kenya also had outbreaks of smaller more manageable vector diseases in late 2017, 2018 and 2019. A major construction project ate huge swathes of previously untouched mangrove forests and led to explosions of Dengue, Chikungunya, Zika and many other mosquito spread diseases. At first they were all attributed as Malaria and later Dengue, but research later showed that health services in the region had not accounted for those diseases as they were not common.
It's likely the next big pandemic will come from here, Brazil...
Dengue is a growing problem here in northeastern and eastern india as well
😑 people will never understand! The mosquito should be eradicated! In reality, what good are they?
@@sandrajones8245 maybe you need to understand a few things.
First, there's not only one mosquito. There are dozen of species.
2nd, they are part of their ecosystems, maybe controlling other unwanted populations (like rats) or feeding others (like frogs, lizards, birds, etc)
Many of those correlated species are really important either in the food chain or in pollination/dispersion of plants.
Third, how exactly do you plan to extinct a mosquito species? Poisoning the water? The soil? There aren't species-specific poisons, you would cause a much worse catastrophe.
Forth, we don't have the right to say which species lives or dies. Curb your arrogance. Go study some more.
"Contagion" perfectly portrayed this at the end of the film: a bulldozer toppled a banana tree where a bat was living. This bat flew to a pig pen while eating a piece of banana, which it dropped, and the piece was eaten by a pig. This pig became infected with the bat's virus, which mutated. And when that pig was slaughtered to be made into a meal at a Hong Kong restaurant, the chef handling the pig did not wash his hands when he shook hands with Gwenyth Paltrow's character, who interacted with other individuals at that casino before she traveled home to the United States and the "MEV-1" pandemic begins.
Ya it does perfectly portray.
I personally think about the ending of the Planet of the Apes reboot, where a human got a disease from one of the apes and then went on a flight, causing it spread to other countries. I feel that also fits.
@@fanime1 the increase in air travel also has something to do with how pandemics spread in the modern age.
Sci-fi movie in 2011, Horror movie in 2020
97RAVINEAVE it’s not an actual spoiler. This detail hardly matters in the movie. The movie is more concerned about how people deal with pandemics and contain them, not as much where they originate.
Deforestation and mass extinction are definitely important factors in the rise of zoonotic diseases, but the biggest thing humans are doing that makes these outbreaks more likely is factory farming. In nature, it takes a longer time for diseases to spread between individuals and species, mutate in the new hosts, and spread to humans, but in wet markets and factory farms we have all these animals crammed together in conditions that make them sick and allow diseases to spread rapidly, and then we interact with them. I'm really disappointed that this wasn't even acknowledge in the video, especially considering animal agriculture is a huge cause of deforestation too
WHO and CDC have been warning us about factory farming for decades. Zoonotic pandemic via factory farming is not a matter of "if", but "when".
It's so sickening that this video doesn't even touch on it.
@@mandolinsam7901 Vox and their journalisming. Woohoo.
Vox did address it in their first video of how coronavirus started
Duuude, this is a 6 minute video about one specific topic and one reason. There is no need to name dropping other reasons, if they are not fully explained. Especially since @vox did publish a thorough video about the wet markets.
5:50 Sounds like you cut her off, animal agriculture and markets are responsible for the majority of zoonotic diseases. You mention deforestation but not diving into what actually causes the majority of deforestation - animal agriculture
Yes I noticed it as well
Glad someone said it... the future is vegan
@@EoinFromIreland future is lab meat. But it can be said to be sort of vegan.
@@kunalpradhan6166 Yes I agree, or plant based meat
Ridiculous to make a video like this and leave out the biggest contributor
The ending of this video makes me so mad. They talk about the animals on the planet and humans as separate entities. We are animals. Anything we do to the planet happens to us too. The first step in rethinking how Humanity treats nature is to stop thinking that we are separate from it.
Thanks for being smarter than the Neanderthal
I 100% agree with you.
But unfortunately many people will only care about deforestation, climate change etc if it affects them directly.
yes everything on this planet is interlinked. IF we spoil the balance of the earth it will eventually bite us in the back
Unfortunately, most humans view themselves as Gods that lord over the rest of the planet. They will cause the demise of us all.
True
Humans: Let's cut down trees and build homes.
Nature: Alright that will cost COVID-19, Ebola...
Nature is a "you give and you take" system 🤷🏻♂️ You take trees and animal life, you give human life back
because virus just happen when human cut trees
@@VJETRA and disturb wildlife.
Che Tra do you know how a domino effect works?
Che Tra did you not watch the video?? How thick can you be
Show this to a random millionaire in Dubai, or New Yrok, or to half educated man. They both wont take anything out of this. They see what they want, belive what they want. Materialism is killing us.
Yes it is
Communism ftw
@@anh456 What does communism have with materialism? We can live in free society, and put moral in front of ego.
Good_Joe i was just kidding, chill
Good_Joe but if you say that communism has nothing to do with materialism then youre not right. See, communism is about equality both in financial and rights, its not just about lies and ambiguity like you guys always think. Im not saying that I like communism but that is a fact
We have one genius who had said that by April, it would be warmer, COVID 19 would go away like a miracle!
Are u serious it is partially immune to temp thats natural
Sigh.
It did go away
There are some viruses which are affected by temperature and so have a less of an impact in tropical countries. People hoped that the coronavirus would be one such too but it isn't.
@@bbqseitan7106 did it tho?
“The marks humans leave are too often scars.”
Where's that from? Awesome line.
@@mementomori5388 'The fault in our stars' by John Green.
Google global truth project and read "The Present" to see the truth about life/death in four pages
Cause we have dummies who still think it’s just a flu
Here before it blows up
Humans in 1919:
Oh thats just a flu
Here to give y'all some popcorn
👏👏
This will have over 100 replies. Was I right?
Everyone on the Right is a proud conservative, until it comes to conserving the Environment.
Not everyone, but most of them unfortunately. 😓 Brilliant comment!
gold comment
not just conservatives, liberals too
Where did the teddy roosevelt Republicans go (I know he hunted but still)
Alec Leamas This comment made my day :D
No wonder Parasite was such a hit.
It’s what we are. To each other, to nature, and to our planet in general.
What parasite?
I think it’s a movie
No mc is talking about the anime parasite show
This is demonic. No idea where you got these views, not from the tv I hope. Oh wait ...
I meant the film
This is how the Cheese Touch started
Sup weeb
diary of a wimpy kid is a good read ngl
This comment needs to be pinned
S you B for S you B
And then Rowley ate the cheese
“It’s just a flu.”
Admiral General Prime Minister President Trump
*Nonsense! He's just Coronavirus Aladeen*
It is. The government have to remove the lockdown and let everybody do their activities normally
Who is his nuclear nadal?
@@animeshkaushik6938 "He's not the legitimate leader. He's not the legitimate leader"😂
Trump is more correct than you dont fall for the hoax
Everyone: destroying nature
Mother nature:time to play plague simulator
@s 400 how are you so sure about it?
@s 400 Yep, you're totally right. That's exactly how each and every Zoonotic pathogen has spread to humans - someone decided it'd be a fun Halloween prank, so they went out into the forests, caught a bunch of different animals, and got to work. No other cause there. None whatsoever.
@s 400 source?
animal agriculture too cmon. people aren’t ready to talk about the worldwide benefits for humankind of plant based diets. most of the rapid destruction of the amazon rainforest is due to cattle farming (including soybean crops used to feed them,) most of ocean plastic is discarded fishing gear, overall animal ag perpetrates environmental racism & classism, 50% of plant crops feed animals, and overall animal ag unfathomably produces more pollution, greenhouse gases, and is more intensive in water use than plant crops. it is long past time to admit that water scarcity, pollution and climate change aren’t “tree hugger” issues, they are human rights crises.
Dude you know that we are built to also eat meat right? We are omnivores. Meat provides a lot of benefits to our bodies and helps us grow. That said I do believe we should treat farm animals nicely and kindly before slaughtering them
@@phoenixchase9271 Actually there's a very famous guy for giving lectures on this, can't remember his name but has a lot of research on a theory of his that we are actually not designed to eat meat. I don't agree nor disagree, I think we can, but I also think we can choose not to. There are people who have been vegan for years or even decades, many celebrities included. I believe some bodies can carry a vegan diet (with suplements of course) and some can't, maybe a matter of genetics or consciousness. But your argument that we are omnivores is not an argument, and both the animal abuse and pollution should be dealt with and not just by treating animals nicely, people in the world consume a ton of times the amount meat their body needs, every single day, we're talking about addiction and commodity now, not survival. What i believe is needed is for people to actually care for their own health and go to a nutritionist so they learn how to eat properly respecting their own bodies and the animals and things the earth has to offer.
@@IanGonzalezS
Yeah like I don’t mind you being a vegetarian or vegan. Just don’t force your ideologies on me and I won’t
Phoenix Chase no one here is forcing anything on you. i just stated facts that animal ag and commercial fishing are much worse for the environment than plant food. and vectors for the zoonotic diseases talked about in this video. u can do whatever you want with the info.
Ian Gonzalez agreed on all counts. there are definitely cultural and socioeconomic nuances to who can even be vegan. and also it seems some people aren’t able to stay healthy, but most of the time a b12 or iron supplement can fix that. not in every case tho so i get what you’re saying. personally i’ve been vegan 6 years, take b12 everyday and my body feels way better than when i ate animal products.
Just freaking say it. There are too many of us and we are taking up more and more space and resources.
While that is true, the population is starting to plateau. Although population is often seen as growing exponentially, it’s actually in an S shape so we do need to live more sustainably, but it isn’t the amount of people directly affecting the earth, but rather the way we are affecting the earth
The book Factfulness goes through this pretty well
Exactly!
I’m getting concerned for my future.
This year is a movie trailer to what the next 10 years will be like.
It's concerning what's going to happen with our planet.
The single most effective way to create change on a personal level is to eliminate animal products from our diet.
You're likely some 12 year old trying to be deep and introspective, but really you need to just get off the internet for a while
Deathmonkeyjaw actually I’m 29. Everyone of all ages is allowed to contemplate their own future. Especially during times of tension.
The fact you thought you were criticising a 12yr old makes you a sad person.
Are you sure about that
It's not all grim, nature has a tendency to be resilient to such large scale bio-diversity disruptions. The probabilities of transfer of pathogens and adaptability in genome sequences are small (although, not miniscule). So I guess, we deal with pandemics one at a time, and hope we can establish a synergy with nature to avoid more outbreaks in our lifetimes.
I'm not an expert
but after seeing this video, I cannot say anything because like I said in the beginning, I'm not an expert.
A joke is a joke but a mystery boat could be anything
You had me reading the comment 3 times straight. Well done sir
I'm still wondering how old this joke is
@@brucewayne1636 Keep wondering grandpa..
This is good
Humanity is paying for their deeds that they've done carelessly
I run a chicken farm for my company so stay mad
Its unfetered capitalism.
_Ordinary people_ are paying the price for the elite agenda of totalitarian control. Our pain and discomfort makes billions for the orchestrators. And it's gonna keep getting worse.
We are not the problem the elite are
I’m not involved in promoting climate change and cutting down trees cuz I just brought 2 trees for my back yard so am innocent
High time we switched to plant based diet, not reduce but switch, the positive side effect of that would be greater utilisation of our resources and also huge reduction in carbon footprint and pollution caused by meat farming and also prevent a pandemic that could wipe out the human population from this planet.
the carbon footprint wouldn’t decrease unless you use those crops for gas. also think abt water. in order to keep those plants alive you have to water them but what abt the sea life. you would be using a lot more water to water the plants. the factories also have to process that food which doesnt help the carbon food print. then you have to think abt where were going to put animals if we dont eat them. we cant just let them free because they might be an invasive species to that area. we also don’t want to overpopulate. everything has to go through the food chain. thats a reason why they are here in the first place. there has to be a balance. there are always going to be problems to a solution but vegansim isnt completely the answer.
@@anayaj7163 you know... Most of the crops that we farm go to cattle, so if we stop eating meat we wouldn't need to waste water on their food. You said that what would we do with the animals that are left, well i guess people would eat them and then stop breeding more animals, so yes, veganism is the answer
@@LethalPoisonForThrSystem eating meat is natural
There’s also the social aspect too. How will you convince the people aren’t used to veganism?
@@heavenascended it's socially acceptable, which is totally different 🤦♂️
The movement of the river at 3:17 is actually really satisfying to watch
the river dancing at 3:16 is mesmerizing.
That's the floodplain of a meandering river. Cool stuff
Yaa
@@josephm.6453 why are you so handsome?
@@refatahmed4246 oof
Idk why vegans are trolled.
They're actually right.
elimating animal from our diet means more land needed for plant growth because human turn to plant based diet, this means more deforestation to be able to supply to more humans, nitrate based fertilizer will also be used more often and disrupted local aqua ecosystem.need to think further and in my opinion portion control and birth control is more effective than veganism
@@mattleong3757 Here We go Again. & Animals ? How DO Animal Farms Work ? No Body in the world has ever cut a broccoli & have covid 19.
Draggy Leong you won’t necessarily increase land usage. Nowadays about 60% of agriculture is used to feed livestock. Besides the areas to raise actual livestock are huge because of the contamination spread by antibiotics and feces, making them pretty much dead zones.
@@patriciozavalareyes2757 places used for planting is also a deadzone bacause all nutrient has been sapped by the plant or the excess use of fertilizer cause ecoimbalance, it's really quite tricky to say one side or another is better
@@xfactor5326 lifestock market only become a breeding ground of bacteria and other pathegon because of immoral and unsanitary practise, can u say that shifting to a plant only market will decrease the likelihood of the pp who want to mass produce these foods for profit will care for sanitation and the ethic of their action , I don't think so. Only by decreasing the demand for these market (eat less, less population require food) that we can truly help this problem
All countries: We are enforcing strict lockdowns and making the wearing of masks mandatory
Brazil and The US: lol what
@Zero Cool Neither can you catch it if police already shoots you. IQ200+ move by America
Actually there are not and have never been mandatory wearing of masks in Denmark either.
We had a strict lockdown in early March and have since mid May slowly opened up for more and more things and that seems to have worked fairly well. Just after the lockdown it seemed like it could still go very wrong with the spreading, but it has since declined.
There have been a few localized spikes after the slow opening but so far it has been under control. We have reasonly opened up the borders to most of EU, so let's see if that changes anything in a couple of weeks.
Im looting and protesting my own looting at the same time. Im safe.😂
Michael Holm If, like the birds, we have a large demographic that gets mild symptoms, the young and older healthy, then the virus should gradually fade in its severity of infection. It'll not disappear but we'll be more resilient to it. Yet we focus on putting people in isolation where it thrives in enclosed spaces. Very little makes sense but then the actual science behind the policy is so conflicting that it's who you back rather than who's correct.
Let’s face it earth has its ways, we need to rethink our economy and living, it cannot continue like this
This is not the right attitude to deal with the current situation.
Becoz if we keep doing blindly what we have been already doing then the future will be even worst than our imagination.
So we need to figure out our wrong doings and rectify them.
This makes me think. Money is basically the biggest lie we fool ourselves. I mean its kinda random, but still.
In summary: We are a terrible virus on this beautiful planet and one day she will be rid of us for good.
YAAAAAAAAAAY peepoClap
pretty much
Edge
Mr. Peanutbutter you first amigo
We deserve to be kicked to the curb, when we treat our only home as a commodity.
1:55 Almost got the major culprit, animal agriculture - why is Vox skirting around the issue?
Exactly! Like I don't think poor villages in Africa are the big problem here -_-
Diseases coming from agricultural animals can easily be controlled compared to wild animals.
@@geneal1989 It's not just about them as zoonotic vectors. They are also the reason we're using so much land (as in, other species habitats). And even if they can be hypothetically "better controlled", by the sheer numbers, they are extremely dangerous. They're also entirely unnecessary.
@@geneal1989 Unlikely as we had major outbreaks and pandemics in the past from animal agriculture, wild animals carry pathogens to livestock/markets is how it was probably likely how we got Covid-19
@@MarcelRiegler agricultural land being useless is another debate but relatively most of the deadly diseases that had been really a major problem are coming more from the wild than from animals in agriculture.
What did you learn from this video
Everyone: how disease spread animals to humans
Me: how river curve so fast
+1
Second comment
These are a lot of different ways of saying that if we stopped eating animal products we could free up at least 70% of agricultural land and allow that land to rewild.
Abolishing healthy meat consumption won't be an option. But endlessly expanding land into unknown territory where risky species live, indulging in mass deforestation, and keeping up a large illegal wildlife trade with no environmental/health regulations isn't safe whatsoever and should be countered.
Not only animal products but agricultural as well. Agriculture needs a lot of land. Also even if we don't eat them. What about mosquitoes...
Most plants in the world are grown to feed livestock so it would free up a huge amount of land.
@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 America is the only country in the world where the average person eats over 100 lbs of meat annually. We can all definitely stand to scale back on meat consumption.
@@midnightmusic1087 yeah. But what are we gonna replace the 70% of animal products with. I know we are eating a lot more meat than we should even for our health. But even with a healthy consumption I don't think we'll be eating 70% less
1:36
“We are expanding our cities erasing forests”
*Shows Dubai and Riyadh which we built in deserts*
Its just flase marketing
DannyDangers Ye I know I was just saying that because of how they were talking about forests when Dubai and Riyadh are built in deserts 😅
And it is somewhat true with Saudia arabia as the virus MERS came from there
@@royalpillows7716 Yeah the desert is more diverse than I'm giving credit
@@royalpillows7716 Came from camels, which got sick due to these intensive farming methods of camels
The materials came from somewhere
I have a feeling we are still centuries away from Star Trek levels of medicine.
“What is this, the dark ages?” -Dr. McCoy
Extinction or Star trek
Conclusion: Human creates problem nature tries to solve it
China*
Random Dude I don’t think you read articles very much
Random Dude not actually- fun fact ; a lot of developing countries is doing this
@@hilal_younus no actually- majority of developing countries don't eat bats like it's chicken unlike Chin... *this part has been censored by the CCP*
Bob-Manuel yes , but ,
In a nutshell , a lot of countries have been cutting trees (which belongs to wild animals that has these diseases ....)
The animals are coming in contact with these people and then these people will spread the virus....
Fun fact: Scientists and Vegans been warning y'all for years.
Too many people on earth.
Yes!!! This should be the top comment 🌱
People will share this and will see how important this is and then
They will do absolutely nothing else about it
What do you suggest normal people do? It’s easy to criticize and difficult to provide actual solutions. Feel free to provide some.
It's really easier to said than done.
"And crawling on the planet's face, some insects called the human race.
Lost in time and lost space and meaning" - The Criminologist. The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
After watching lots of videos like this and reflecting through it, now I feel like our generation is really f*cked up. Truth really hurts and I really hate it that we the next adults will have to deal with this.
Living in a Third World country where we depend mostly on powerful countries' technology in where we believe that will help us fight global warming, climate change, diseases especially this pandemic and other world problems that we are dealing right now. Then witnessing world leaders to just be in the comfort zone telling people comforting lies. I feel like most of the world leaders not all of them though, they just wanted us to put our trust to them. While they are enjoying their luxurious lives, we the people are experiencing this unpleasant feeling and not really certain on what could possibly happen in the future. We are being fed up by lies telling us not to worry about everything even though we are being slowly being drowned by Mother Nature's wrath. Well yeah it does help ones mental health to not to worry. But the question is can we still live life normally in the future, the normal lives that we used to be living?
Trust me, older generations are trying too, it’s a hard fight to win. It’s not a blanket situation where we are ruining it for you
@@parnianx okay, thanks.🙂
Cyril Masbang: Being a windmill crusader is part of the problem.
People think Russia China and USA is 3rd world 😅 come to my country Afghanistan 🇦🇫 than you be grateful
meanwhile there are people that are sick of staying at home while introverts are basically living their best life
@@Vii905 yeah
Yes-Kribe plz help🤗🤗
@@Vii905 exactly
Begger ?
yeah we should contain the virus soon so that people we will leave us, the introverts alone!
So sad we are invading the animals home :(
Hey I'm glad you have empathy but thinking about it as "invading their home" still implying we're separated and doesn't help understanding we don't own the earth. It's a good starting point but it does not really allow progress.
What's even more twisted is that we destroy the homes of some animals to raise and feed other animals that end up in our plates.
Animal agriculture is a destructive practice that should be ended, and this video should've talked about it.
Érika De Lisle amen
"we prefer the term colonization"
- humanity
@@erikadelisle8792 spot on 👏
"Researches thinks Covid-19 did too"
*Conspiracy theorists have left the chat*
Somebody has cope ur comment
Yep someone copied
@Kairyuu Cruz okay boomer
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@@bbqseitan7106 shut up karen
" You are not a human, you are an animal".
But animals are nicer than humans lol
Edit: Thoughts of a thirteen year old boy who has nothing to do with life
We sing about the circle of life while at the same time saying we’re at the top of the food chain. For every action, there is a reaction. When you disrupt the balance of nature, nature fights back to reclaim order from the chaos we’ve created. We’re so selfish...
And yet, selfishness drove life for billions of years, in an endless cycle of selection and survival, until we came, and coinceived morals, ethics, mercy and kindness, all foreign concepts to nature. And that's why we are getting unrightfully punished: for being sentient, for being more than animals who blindly follow their instinct. Nature is Macchiavellian and Reactionary, Humanity is Idealistic and Libertarian, but we are pitted against ourselves by what nature favored: selfishness. Don't get me wrong: we still need nature to sustain ourselves, but once technology advances enough, i think we will become the gods we prayed and begged for salvation and forgiveness.
Just list all of the problems earth and us facing
Its all our fault
Most people lack power (wealth). Most are just pawns used to ultimately help dress entitled snobs in luxury clothing.
No, we’re all responsible. Think about when you drop plastic on the ground, use too much water, etc.
We’re the only animal on the planet they can manipulate our environment to be better for our survival, and while we do that, we have to be cautious of the impact we have while we are here to make it better for the future.
We can start by bring a “moderate“, just like chocolate, everything in moderation is best. Clean up after yourself, and you will make an impact.
Mason S I agree with you
We need to work with the nature. Not againist it. That's all.
"we did it bois, disease is no more"
*"Covid-19 rates drop to 0%"*
@@Shino-lr2wi funni hahhhha
humans are just animals
we are not so special/different
In life we are unique. In death we are equal.
We can argue about that
@@franjosip There's no argument
@@franjosip if we are not animals what are we? god?
Except for sentience, higher intelligence, use of complex language, ability of complex reasoning, ability for abstract thought, and advanced technology/society yeah humans are essentially the same as all other animals 🙃
I live in Amazon, in it's capital, and I didn't know how much the rain forest here have been taken down since a few years ago on high school. Once in a geography class, I saw in the text book two satelite images of the Amazon forest, they were about 20 years apart. The difference was scary, the region showed was pretty much fully deforested.
A lot of people that I know don't even talk about this situation. They just know that deforestation happens and life goes on.
Vox: 'How humans are making pandemic more likely'
China: 'How pandemic would make illegal expansion more likely'
*bubonic plague enters the chat*
?
The following facts showed that Covid-19 existed way before China first identified it as a deadly virus in 27 Dec 2019:
1. “Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample: Spanish study” - University of Barcelona, Jun 26 2020
2. “Virus already in Italy by December, waste water study finds” CTV News, Canada, 19 June 2020.
3. Brazil discovered that they had Covid-19 as early as Nov 2019, Federal University of Santa Catarina, 02 Jul 2020
4. Source: University of Cambridge research: Covid-19 evolved from Type A genome to Type B and later to Type C.
Type A is primarily in the US.
Type B is primarily in China.
Type C is primarily in Europe.
It’s interesting to figure out what this means?
5. The mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham said he contracted COVID-19 last November, a month before China even recorded any case.
6. The US’ CDC Director Robert Redfield unwittingly “spilled the beans”. He candidly admitted, yes, some cases diagnosed as seasonal flu could have been coronavirus. Source: CNN March 11, 2020.
The question is: Has trump's government ignored all signs of Covid-19 as early as 2018 where 80,000 died of flu (US CDC) and conveniently classified it as seasonal flu? We could have easily controlled covid-19 had the US identified it as a deadly virus when it was budding back in 2018.
But still nobody is talking about birth control measures, proper city planning and universal housing. 🙂
And a good public health system with educated people. How such a simple thing can make a huge difference. Covid proved that.
And universal healthcare and at least free university for healthcare students
one of the best comments here ngl
Shhh😬🙊 (you don't want to be called anti national, stop demanding these things from the govt.) P.s. take it as a joke😁✌️
When we push animals out of their natural habitat, nature gives us a pandemic to balance it out.
Well-said. Mother nature knows what she is doing
COVID-19: Prepare for Trouble
Bubonic Plague: And Make It Double
Ebola: what who are you
Your comment gave me all of those diseases.
Funny 😐
Meowth that's right!
Bubonic plague wont come back
this is why gen z isn't having kids LOL
young millennials too.
Thank goodness!
This is something I've never thought about when it comes to the drawbacks of urbanization. Hopefully with covid effecting everyone it'll start to make people think about the long term effects of urbanization and climate change.
Coronavirus : Starts
Humans :🎶 I will travel across the land 🎶
The Last Us hits a bit closer to reality every month it seems. Lol
Just waiting on dem clickers..
It's a good thing we all have practice from playing the game
Humans:going to the forest.
Nature:Oh, you're approaching me?
Me: Laughs in vegitarian
Me: laughs at stupidity
Me: laugh non Chinese
Me: laughs at vegatarian
I hope you will laugh in vegan in near future
Me: laughs in omnivore who eats meat and vegetables in acceptable quantities
I’m sure all of this is absolutely true, but I don’t see a tenable solution here. We can’t force people not to expand. We didn’t care when we decimated the habitats here in America and there are still a large majority of people in America that don’t care about the environment. And all of us don’t care about the environment enough to give up our way of life. We can’t ask developing countries to think about the effects of deforestation and loss of habitat. They don’t care, and they have a point. We can’t stop human expansion and the mass extinction of biodiversity that is to follow because of it. We’re going to have to adapt to that reality and figure other ways of preventing or at least reacting to the pandemics that are to come. I don’t mean to be a downer on what this video is trying to accomplish, but realistically, it’s accomplishing nothing. Even if people were willing to stop expanding because of potential pandemic prevention, this video isn’t being viewed by anyone who’s going to do something about it. I certainly can’t do anything about this problem.
"We can't force people not to expand"... but Nature can... because Nature don't care for humans lives...
Now just spit balling ideas here but human ingenuity may, in some unforeseen way, lead to a solution that would be a win- win scenario for humans and what others might call nature. Maybe like building vertically instead of horizontally like how New York has these really high buildings that can house thousands instead of hundreds or thousands of houses that take up space on the surface. Just food for thought.
@@xavierlopez88 you ever seen sky scrapers act like dominos? Still not a full proof plan. There really isn't a realistic way to "save all of humanity" like the guy said, and I completely agree. The least we can do is help ourselves while trying to keep positive in a realistic sense. Seriously all these people that preach for world peace, a greener planet, riddance of poverty and starvation and the end to all wars forget that this isn't Hollywood media, it's reality, and we'll never reach full in tranquility and bliss.
No matter how much we recycle, there's a factory less then 10mi away, paying for the right to dump billions of gallons of sewage and toxic sludge onto the Earth, into the air and water.
You got the title wrong lol it’s actually “How Government is making the pandemics more likely”
Their title is always on point, tbh))
We should simply stop expanding our colonies and revive the equilibrium
Or just have a Proper Family Planning
If we interact a lot more with animals the possibility is very high!
Yeah 💯💯💯 By the way your DNA 🧬🧬🧬 Videos are great man
Yeah, Some poor factories don’t prepare meat right, etc.
@@halamadruuid2380 i love if poeple could have as much iq as u do
i love this channel.
very educating, great design, and simple images for us to understand better!
thank you Vox!
In addition to increasing spillovers, deforestation is contributing significantly to the spread of infectious diseases that already are already infecting humans, especially vector-borne diseases (diseases carried by mosquitoes). I think that could be something you should seriously consider making a video about, Vox.
Hi,
go vegan. really aint that hard. save the earth, and yourself.
@@fxDEBIAN lol. do a minor amount of research, then get back to me.
No
Vegan consumers green cover of earth
SeeReax you can’t force ur diet on someone else, shoo
Im a vegetarian, does that count?
WHO claims Corona virus spreading in Air.
Me : who says?
Answer : " WHO".
this comment is gold.
lol
Where's Thanos when you need him?! 🤦♂️
That’s because Thanos never exist.
You do realize if he made half of the world population disappear, there’s a 50/50 chance you’d disappear along with that too
@@tanksandturtles1131 I don't mind lol
Armin Walker
I’m getting some real r/im14andthisisdeep vibes from you despite this having nothing to do with that
Fun fact, their description of the West Nile virus is the exact same thing that’s happening with lime disease
I love how you present your videos. Amazing. Kudos to the editor
"Humans are slowly killing themselves, other animals, and the environment itself while also making money"
big companies : *_i see this as an absolute win !_*
Omnivores: "Stop pushing your views on us!"
Vegans: "Stop pushing your pandemics on us!"
😂
@@anniebvl Sadly, it's true and I love a good steak. Diseases start when we put animals that we eat on land that used to be a forest teeming with millions of insects and rodents. Essentially, humans need to stop expanding livestock operations or pandemics will continue
@@StupidDummyIdiot I know that it's true. I've been a vegetarian (I do eat eggs because my doc told me to) all my life. It's the sad truth as you said. Pandemics are one of the reasons many people in Ancient India didn't eat any kind of meat/animal. There's been a new outbreak recently called the bubonic plague in China which comes from rodents and can be deadly if not treated.
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We also accelerated the pandemic through our low cost, high-demand, all-efficient need to travel. There are (or were at the time) HUNDREDS of direct flights from the US to Wuhan, where COVID originated. How many Americans have heard of Wuhan?!
“Disease usually results from
inconclusive negotiations for symbiosis, an overstepping of the line by one side, a biologic misinterpretation of borders” (from my college Microbiology course/book ("Microbiology: Principles and Explorations" by Black, 2008))
"...but what we find is that we have more human beings than animals nowadays. right? earlier, more animals were there in this world, that means we are progressing... so the point is that now we have been deforesting here, no forests are available, everything is being made into buildings, so those animal souls that are supposed to live in the forest, do not have a place to live, therefore they have come back as your own children... therefore you see them [wild animal sounds], and they're playing games, killing everybody. originally they are supposed to be animal souls, but since they have no opportunity to live in the forest..." - swami ishwarananda from chinmaya mission los angeles, usa
I understand there’s some people who can’t go fully vegan, but it would honestly be better if most of the population ate plant-based/vegan!!
Alternate universe: how pandemics are creating more humans
The alternate UNO reverse card
Basically, because lockdowns have people bored. lol
Humanity is digging his own grave.
We humans must learn to exist as part of nature, not take it for granted as free estates.
"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. ... There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus." Agent Smith. 1999.
woah
Happy day when Vox uploads!
Re: Your pinned comment
Yes. However technology such as phones/computers is necessary, especially as we continue to move into a more technology-driven age. The amount of meat that is being eaten in many countries is absolutely not necessary. Drastically reducing our meat consumption (vegan, vegetarian, reducetarian or simply meatless-mondays) is the easiest way to decrease the demand for meat and therefore lessen the burden that factory farming has on our planet and subsequently our health. Vox, you consistently have very thorough videos, but this one missed the mark. I’m disappointed that this point was not driven home.
But they're not necessary; they're convenient, not necessary. You also don't need to update your phone every year. I had a flip-phone until 2018. It did performed its function; *it was a phone* . Planned obsolescence is a thing, and it's always been unsustainable.
*I'm disappointed that my opinion wasn't driven home*
Meat reduction is convenient, but not necessary
I actually thought this video was going to be about reducing meat consumption from the thumbnail.
Eating meat is natural, there are lots of nutrition in meats.
@@P0k3D0nd3M4cG This is not true. Many developing countries do not use a laptop or a desktop entirely because their phones are capable. In fact overall it has reduced e waste and silicon needs. Improvement in technology leads to sustainability. It is definitely a need.
Its interesting how you didn't mention animal domestication and animal agriculture in this...
Normal people "we should have doing this"
Chinese "we should eat them"
Nandinho Cunha: "Let's perpetuate stereotypes that should help!"
@@Shino-lr2wi if we told the Chinese to stop eat bat soup, this would never happen
@@nandinhocunha440 the bat soup was from indonesia that chinese tourists were really into. Corona started in a chinese wet market then spread around. the reason its a pandemic isnt solely chinas fault. plenty of different countries or people to blame. Trumps inadequate response to the pandemic also can be blamed too no? basically what im saying is you are wrong
this video should literally be EVERYWHERE
just like the Movie Contagion (2011)
interesting video, like always 👍🏼
I think u mean how Karen’s are making pandemics more likely...
Hi, bird biologist here! Wonderful video, but you used a photos of a European robin, rather than an American robin (not a true robin, it is a thrush).
Takes thousands of years for viruses to mutate. Humans in labs speed that up.
I've been watching Vox for years. I liked their videos. That is why I decided to create my own sci-fi/futurist Channel. 👍🙂
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. NTL.
I Guess it’s time to *delete* humans.
No. And you're pretty sad if you self promote.
self promoting is kinda cheap ngl
Overpopulation never, ever, gets mentioned. As a species, we deserve every bit of what we’re getting, and every bit of what’s coming.
Hey what evidence are you using to support your claim of overpopulation?
Well, human pandemics aren't possible without humans...
You say "American Robins" but you clearly show pictures of European Robins. Where are your visualization folks located?
1:30 Graph clearly shows land use increasing at a decreasing rate. Vox: "land use has accelerated"
How?
thanks for letting this information out there. will the world do anything about this?
let me guess...
NO!
This is so sad and at the same time amazing. How well balanced Mother Nature is and how it defends herself. Sadly, I don’t see this pattern of animal exploitation ending anytime soon. 😔
People act like money is limited, and time is infinite. That's why they do so much for money just to find out that they're time is diminishing. Money is infinite. Time is not.
Money is finite, but always growing