Seriously. Just coming in right in the middle of the final stretch. Literally. I mean, Telemachus’ entrance doesn’t hit hard unless you know his motif and Mico’s voice can sound like Jorge’s. Nor would you understand the significance of “mercy”. There’s also the chant in the background that’s actually saying something. Also the r word. That will sound like completely out of left field for a newbie. Still! It’s cool that he still felt the impact of it all. Especially during the mercy part when he got goosebumps. I’d say it’s a testament to everyone’s work.
This song actually was also my introduction to this musical (granted, I had already read The Odyssey, so it wasn't like I was going in without any knowledge).
This is all 9 sagas and songs in order for you 1st saga - the troy saga 1. The horse and the infant 2. Just a man 3. Full speed ahead 4. Open Arms 5. Warrior of the mind 2nd saga - the cyclops saga 1. Polyphemus 2. Survive 3. Remember them 4. My goodbye 3rd saga - the ocean saga 1. Storm 2. Luck runs out 3. Keep your friends close 4. Ruthlessness 4th saga - the circe saga 1. Puppeteer 2. Wouldn't you like 3. Done for 4. There are other ways 5th saga - the underworld saga 1. The underworld 2. No longer you 3. Monster 6th saga - the thunder saga 1. Suffering 2. Different Beast 3. Scylla 4. Mutiny 5. Thunder bringer 7th saga - the wisdom saga 1. Legendary 2. Little Wolf 3. We'll be fine 4. Love in Paradise 5. God Games 8th saga - the vengeance saga 1. I'm not sorry for loving you 2. Dangerous 3. Charybdis 4. Get in the water 5. 600 strike 9th saga - the Ithaca saga 1. The Challenge 2. Hold them down 3. Odysseus 4. I can't help but wonder 5. Would you fall in love with me again
“Odysseus” was probably the wildest start to learning about Epic the musical, I definitely suggest listening to it start to finish, it’s amazing and the guy who sings for Odysseus (Jorge), casted the people for the songs and wrote all the songs, but I MOST definitely!! Suggest “Thunder Bringer”, “Would you love me again”, “Ruthlessness”, and “Legendary”
Epic is such an incredible musical, most of the "main" characters actually have specific instruments, or even specific themes. For example, Odysseus' instrument is the guitar that u can really hear at 1:29. In some songs its more acoustic, but when he gets angry its more electronic. Like everyone else is commenting, the best experience is to listen from the beginning to end. It starts off much lighter, and gets darker as the songs progress. However if you are just looking for a few songs to react to "God Games" has 7 unique singers all coming together for an incredible song, its 100% a fan favorite.
I can honestly and comfortably say that you’ll have tens of thousands of listeners if you cover any epic songs. If you do the whole thing from start to finish your channel will grow a heck of a lot.
You talked a lot about how great some of the singers in the project are, but the unbelievable thing is that most of the singers in this song only ever appear in this one song. This speaks a lot about the quality of the project itself because if those single song characters are so well voiced you can imagine how amazing the main singer (Odysseus), who ironically does not actually sing much in this song titled after him, and all the other "main" characters are. This project has been a occupying a large section of my brain rent free since February and I'm so excited where they'll go with it now that the concept album is done. Thank you for your great reaction and welcome to the EPIC fandom.
@@TimWelchVocalStudio Indeed. As Coveredinbees93 stated, only Odysseus (the starting vocalist) and Telemachus (The prince) are recurring voices/major characters. While the other vocalists are indeed good, it speaks volumes to the many other voices of main characters that these voices don't shine nearly as bright.
So cool to see you pick up this series! With Epic, you really have to start from the beginning and go in order to get the full effect. Jorge Rivera-Herrans (the creator of the musical and voice of Odysseus) has said that he was inspired by Peter and The Wolf, so each character in Epic has their own signature instrument within the backing track, and there's a ton of little leitmotifs that are always being called back to in later songs, so you can pretty much always tell what's happening if you pay close attention to the instrumentals. There should be a full playlist of all the sagas in order, but you should look into "The Horse and the Infant" and "Just a Man" next. :)
@@TimWelchVocalStudio I’d suggest watching the animatics of these two starting songs from the artist/channel Gigi. It’s always great fun paying respects to both the author Jorge for this immaculate concept album and the great work these animators put in to convey what happens visually in these songs so it’s up to you as I’m sure many fans would be ecstatic watching your reactions to both animatics and just listening to the songs too. Praise to all involved!
This being your first intro to the musical is crazy 😭 Especially when you haven't heard the lead singer's, Jorge or the creator of the musical, full range, considering this is one of the darkest songs of the entire musical
Just letting you know, ‘Odysseus’ is song 38/40 I believe of the series. So, I would highly recommend starting from the beginning, because the entire Musical is phenomenal ❤️
There are some cool "rules" and stuff with the musical. Like how every character has a signature instrument. There are countless motifs in the music, but the most famous one is the "danger is nearby" motif that I wonder if you could spot after a few sagas. Also when it comes to backing vocals, if it is a human character in the lead, the ensemble is coming from something in the environment (other humans/spirits) but if it's a god singing they can just summon a choir as a show of their power.
Please listen to the entire thing! And I highly recommend watching the animatics to go with it. There are great playlists out there (and us fans would be thrilled to point you in the right direction)
GUYS! WE GOT ANOTHER WINION!!!! Welcome (in the tone you will get when you start listening from the beginning). Seriously … with this album, there is a whole group of fans that are lovingly passionate about it to the point we bought the first 2 sagas twice due to the creator not being paid the first time around for them. Also … try to find the animatics. It gives more context to what’s going on.
I'd love to see you react to this song once again after you've listened to the songs in order and have the proper context btw. You will find that there are clear references to many of the past songs in this one
AND there are animatics to go with every song, I strongly advise for you to watch them while listening, too! If you don't know which animatic to react to you can also use the livestream which they made where they react to all the songs one by one, there are commissioned animatics in that one. But there are plenty of playlists with the songs and animatics in order already as well!
No because I went to check your previous reactions to this musical and my jaw DROPPED when I realized this song was your first impression 😂 it hits different when you watch it in order, lots of musical motifs. But wow I can’t imagine listening to this out of context what a trip!
I wouldn’t have advised starting here, but it makes sense that you listen to the main character song. “Just a Man” or “Monster” are songs that you should start with if you’re trying to go for techniques the singer uses to convey emotions. But all songs are good. Every instrument represents a specific character.
Oh, you need to go from the beginning- there's so many intwined musical themes that are built from the start! If you want one long official run through, Jorge Rivera Herrans (the writer and creator) posted the entire thing with canon animatics on his channel; if you want the fan animatics (which are more animated than many of Jorge's pieces), there are a number of youtube playlists that show them in order. Jorge also has a playlist with just the songs in order, as well, if you want only music (personally, I think you should do some form of visuals, it was written as a musical and visual piece). Maybe reach out to Moritus, another content creator, he's been making a project out of recommending the best animatics. But welcome to the fandom for this wonderful, amazing musical- I don't think there's any song in the entire playlist that's less than good. Most and beyond great!
imagine THIS being your introduction to Epic. it's going to be SO much fun for you to go through the whole thing and identify the themes that come back up.
awesome to see new people react to EPIC, its such an awesome piece of art. Would certainly suggest watching the whole thing in order, it is a Beautiful journey!
PLLEEEEEEAAAAASSEEEE listen to it from the beginning 🙏🏻, this song is near the end, and it’s SO COOL how Jorge (the writer) adds elements from previous songs and sagas, but you can only fully appreciate all of the work he puts into the songs if you listen to them in order, because of how he adds in the previous songs. Of course if you’ve already listened to them all once it doesn’t matter, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, for my sanity listen to it from the beginning 🙏🏻.
Other interesting vocals that might be fun to explore: “My Goodbye”, “Puppeteer”, “Ruthlessness”, “We’ll Be Fine”…. If you don’t go through the whole musical anyway and just want to pick out stuff to look at vocally. (I vote the whole musical from the beginning, you’ll probably get enough viewers to make it worthwhile, the EPIC fandom is *passionate*)
Great reaction ! 😁 I'd personally recommend reacting to Epic The Musical Saga by Saga but if you prefer to do it to through small videos here is the order I suggest ^^ • *Troy Saga* -The Horse And The Infant -Just A Man - Full Speed Ahead - Open arms - Warrior of the mind ( These 5 go together ) • *The Cyclops Saga* - Polyphemus - Survive ( They follow each other so you should watch them together ) - Remember them - My Goodbye ( they also follow each other ) • *Ocean Saga* - Storm -Luck Runs Out ( You can watch them together if you want but if you don't it's fine ) - Keep your friends close - Ruthlessness ( These two follow each other too ) • *Circe Saga* - Puppeteer - Wouldn't you like ( Watching those two together is up to you and what you want ) -Done for - There are other ways ( These two go together ) • *Underworld Saga* - The Underworld - No longer you - Monster ( I'd recommend watching those 3 together personnally ) • *Thunder Saga* - Suffering - Different Beast ( These two go together ) -Scylla - Mutiny - Thunder Bringer ( Those 3 go together ) • *Wisdom Saga* - Legendary - Little Wolf - We'll Be Fine ( those 3 go together ) - Love In Paradise - God Games ( I'd recommend reacting to them together ) • *The Vengeance Saga* - Not Sorry For Loving You -Dangerous -Charybdis - Get In The Water - 600 Strike ( They all follow each other ) • *The Ithica Saga* - The Challenge - Hold Them Down - Odysseus - I Can't Help But Wonder - Would You Fall In Love With Me Again ( these 5 follow each other )
Everything about this musical is intentional and has at least 3 different meanings behind it. Every instrument, every note placement, every motif, all of it is so integral to each piece, it’s a masterful work. Once you’ve watched through it, I’d highly recommend checking out some of Jorge’s videos where he explains his reasoning for each of these decisions, it’s amazing work
Hi welcome to the huge community of EPIC: THE MUSICAL one of the most beautiful warm and welcoming communities, we are happy to have you here, the musical is an experience on it's own no matter how you choose to : hear it only OR watch the animatics along side the audio 🎉❤🎉🎉
My friend, you need to listen to the whole discography. Start with 'The Horse and the Infant'. its the first one, but seriously, watch them all in order. Its worth it.
I promise you: when you listen to the full musical and then come back to this song it will hit SO different. That's not just because you will know the context but because it is full of motifs from previous songs that make it so much more emotional and so much of the things they say way more meaningful! That's also because many of those motifs represent a specific aspect of Ody's journey and character development (e.g. "just a man" stands for his humanity and also helplessness in the face of impossible and cruel challenges, so every time characters give in to temptations or feel weak, you will hear "just an man" play. Or "open arms" represents choosing peace.) That's why it's sooo important to listen to the musical in the coreect order!
The first part is called the Troy saga with the first song called “The horse and the infant” The order of the albums is as follows Troy Cyclops Ocean Circe Underworld Thunder Wisdom Vengeance Ithaca
I saw this and I was like “did I miss an entire series?” And when you said this is your first song I spat out my drink laughing. You really need to go from the start not just because it’s in order but all of this musical is so so good.
You’re right, there is some work on the vocals as this has yet to become a stage play. We’re all excited to hear this in a live setting, but until then the Concept Albums are glorious!
Though it would be quite a project, I definitely recommend listening to the whole of Epic if this song made you curious since this song is one of the final songs of the musical and therefore a lot of emotional payoff is probably lost on you. (And just a week ago the Ithaca Saga came out, and the song you reacted to is one of the songs from this final saga, so you won't have to wait for the rest to be released :)) Should you decide you want to listen from the beginning, the first saga is The Troy Saga, the first song is The Horse and the Infant, starting with the invasion of Troy) Just some fun facts about this song in particular (because I saw some comments explaining more about Epic as a whole): For almost all of its runtime, Epic follows Odysseus on his journey back home and until the third to last saga we follow exclusively him. It is focusses a lot on his struggles with his morals and justifying doing terrible things to get back to his wife and son - and how that changes him. All the songs that feature a monster and that detail how he encounters and fights them have the monster's name in the title ("Polephemus", "Scylla", "Charybdis" - which are not gods, for gods the rule doesn't count exactly, but those songs are usually named after a description of said (half)god). And in "Odysseus", he is the "final boss", as the creator Jorge Rivera-Herrans aptly put it. We can see how terrifying he is from the perspective of others for the first time, since this "Odysseus" is following the suitors (the other men singing who all want to marry Odysseus's wife Penelope in the king's absence). Up until then it was always focussed on Odysseus The part where the suitors sing "hold him down" is a callback to the previous song (something that Jorge does *expertly* and a lot - and which might be one of my favourite things about epic concerning the music and melodies). As some other's stated already, the pivotal characters have their own instruments, which allows for amazing textpainting (if that is the correct word here). I don't know how familiar you are with The Odyssey, but Athena mentors Odysseus and then later his son Telemachus. So when the prince appears, you can hear Athena's instrument and the melody Telemachus is introduced with (from the song Legendary), another example for a reference to a previous song. If you just want to experience some cool vocals, I would recommend Scylla, Just a Man, Warrior of the Mind, My Goodbye and Ruthlessness :)) (I just noticed these are all from the first half except for Scylla but these are some of my faves)
I love the whole thing but I highly recommend Ruthlessness and Just a Man. Also Keep your Friends Close is one of my favorites. I do recommend listening to it all the way through.
For vocals I'd advice: Would you fall in love with me again? God Games There are other ways Get in the water Thunderbringer Love in paradise I can't help but wonder
I strongly advise to watch from beginning to end , and with animatics that are on youtube for a better understanding of what is happening with some musical motivs or sounds
So I loved your reaction. Others have told you you're basically at the end rather than the beginning and I hope you stick with the releases for the first listen at least (the animatics are fun too). If you would, when you go thru the sagas in order re-react to this one with all the context you gain. I ask because you noticed the theme changes, thankfully, and the each character has their own theme along with their own instrument. For instance, and without spoiler as much as possible, when the Prince appeared, you heard his theme alongside another I won't say whose. But *you* noticed both which is why I think you'll like the full album.
Oh man! What a way to enter this fandom🤣 you need to go from the beginning with The Troy Saga. Another suggestion, there are a TON of animatics to these and the visuals help so much (even though they are not needed to grasp the story!)
I was shocked when i couldn't fine the rest of this musical on your channel, this being your start to epic is wild 💀 (please check out the horse and the infant!)
This song is actually one of the last ones of the musical (and honestly not that interesting vocally). I would recommend you to listen to the first two songs "The Horse and the Infant" and "Just a Man". Other songs that I think that are interesting to analyze would be "ruthlessness", "thunder bringer", "scylla", "wouldn't you like", "there are other ways", "no longer you", "monster", "hold them down" and "would you fall in love with me again" (the last song). This musical has a lot of characters, so each song has different dynamics and vocal showcases
I have subscribed just to watch you go through the full epic journey. You need to start with horse in the infant and go all the way through. With the background you described you are going to love this musical. I cannot wait to see you experience How odysseus got to the song You just heard
I highly recommend you listen go all of them in order because there is so much talent in this musical. Also I think yo will enjoy Thunder Bringer as Luke Holt (the main singer in that song) is INCREDIBLE!!!! Along with Jorge Rivera Herrans the person who wrote the musical. :D
Please do a reaction to the whole series ❤ the build up to what you have heard now is insane. Every saga is incredible in it's own way. The detail Jorge puts into everything is something i think you would appreciate. If you do a reaction please do it one saga at a time and not song by song bc it's connects in a different way. The animatics are a plus if you want to catch everything that's going on
I would suggest starting from the beginning and watching some animatics with your reactions. It helps a lot with the not being sure who's talking bit and the animators that have taken it on themselves to make animations for this musical are all just fantastic. Start with The Horse and the infant. Hope to see more of this, looking forward to seeing your take on it.
What a way to enter the EPIC fandom!!! If you listen through the whole thing from the beginning, you can notice the TON of callbacks and context to the motifs in this song!
This is CRAZY to go in as your first. For a lot of people their first is Get In The Water, but it does need to be listened to in order from beginning to end. The creator, Jorge Rivera Herrans has a full playlist of the albums in order. The livestreams on his channel contain official animatics if there are any story points that feel unclear just from the music, there are many MANY fan animatics, but most are not canon and should be regarded as fan art and not official interpretations of the story. Jorge has done a lot of incredible work with the instrumentals and motifs and once youre familiar with the main ones it's incredible to break the later songs down. This song itself contains melodical and lyrical callbacks to "The Horse & The Infant", "600 Men", "Open Arms", "Polyphemus", "Monster", "Scylla" and like one or two others. Incredible composing work by Jorge I could go on for hours
You called it on the electronic elements, its important to the way Jorge does the Gods songs. The gods can do certain things mortal characters can't, they use electronic elements and can create their own choruses. In this, Odysseus has just crossed from mortal into something more, almost god-like, which in turn changes his music. It's crazy
I hope you do the entire series because it really is an amazing journey to take. If you need visuals to go with the songs there are animatics, but to me the best part is that every character has a specific instrument that basically identifies them in songs and it'll be interesting to see if you pick up what instrument goes to each character,
I actually agree with you at 7:45 about the editing. I absolutely love Epic and have been following the musical for years but it’s true that the vocals can get too processed sometimes. Which is not bad necessarily, just that it can sounds kind of muted or ‘drowned’ to me sometimes (i can’t quite explain it, hope you get what I mean 🥲). You can actually hear the difference quite well if you do a back to back listen with the song snippets Jorge posted. People doesn’t seem to mind the edit that much but tbh if the rawness is kept I think the songs will definitely be even better (especially since things like growling is a big part of epic and what set it apart a lot for me)
EPIC is an amazing musical! Apart from listening to it on order, I suggest you watching fan animatics or Jorge's livestream, it gives you a more visual understandment of the songs and makes it easier to comprehend the story!
While the story will probably make more sense if you take it in order, the saga I'm most interested in seeing your reaction to is the Circe saga - the vocalist for Circe (Talya Sindel) is phenomenal. Absolutely glorious soprano. (The Circe saga is by far my favorite specifically because of her.) The songs she's on are Puppeteer, Done For, and There are Other Ways. If you decide to watch fan-made animatics to help track what's going on during the songs, I highly recommend Gigi's videos, especially for Puppeteer and There are Other Ways. Good luck with your Epic journey!
Others may have mentioned it, but in addition to the audio recordings played over the cover art, there are also (several) fan drawn animatics for each of the songs (with the possible exception of the last saga [last 5 songs] that were just released a week and a half ago). Although the music does (when played in order) do a good job of conveying what is happening and telling the story, some find the extra visual helpful for following, even if it is not officially cannon.
This musical (especially this song) use a lot of callbacks from previous songs so its best to listen to in order. I think someone else already post the order of the songs but I'd like to add that there are also fan animatics and official commissioned animatic for each song that'll make it easier to understand what's happening as you're listening to the music
Kept talking about how many amazing voices ... That's what happens when you pull from the ENTIRE INTERNET. Like, hundreds of auditions, people all around the world, etc... it's so amazing lol
I loved watching your reaction to this with no context. Hopefully, you decide to continue watching from the beginning because I'd love to see you react to this song again after experiencing all the ups and downs that lead to this song.
Epic is really easy, just look up the songs in order and listen to them. This is the last saga aka the last five songs, so it’s kinda funny you’re starting from here, but the whole thing is worth it.
You should really watch it from start to finish. He makes a bunch of call backs in songs. In this song for example he suitor says “Open arms” in a line which is a song and a call back to one of Odysseus’ friend. You should watch it with the official livestream it has his canon visual
"Odysseus" as someones first song ever heard is insane! I would really like seeing your reaction to the whole epic the musical. The animatics are also pretty good, but since your focus is the voices maybe its good to not see the animatics. All the main characters have like there own instrument associated with them, for example the instrumental where telemachus came in was Athenas If I'm not mistaken! You've started with the last saga that was just released around Christmas this year. The first would be the Troy Saga - > First song "The horse and the infant"
I love epic the musical but I also definitely agree with your opinion on preferring raw voices to auto tune! I can’t wait for you to listen to the rest!
If you listen to the rest of the sagas (in order is highly recommended and then revisiting this song when you get to it cause there will be a lot of little details that connect to the previous ones that you’ll notice like how a lot of the characters have a melody associated with them so when they play it means the character has entered) I would also suggest watching the animatics as they help fill in the story based off of the creators canon animatics he live-streamed when the sagas were released. Cause there’s a lot of detail that he had in mind when writing the songs and some background sound effects shows this but unless you really know the lore of the story you’d miss those details. Like for example (spoiler alert) in this song the kinda twang and then swishing noise is Odysseus shooting his bow and killing the suitors under cover of darkness, so all those other voices also singing keep changing cause he’s killing the men and others start singing
My absolute favorite song in the whole musical (for the stunning vocals, NOT what they're singing about) is Hold Them Down, and I would LOVE to see you react to it. It's such a good villain song, and Ayron's voice is so smooth and gorgeous. A few others I'd like to see would have to be No Longer You, Monster, Just a Man, My Goodbye, Little Wolf, and Not Sorry for Loving You
I love how you picked the 3rd last song in the entire saga. Would recommend doing some googling before jumping into projects like this in the future though I heavily appreciate the vibes you bring with that action.
This song hits even better when you listened to everything from the beginning cause there are some instrumental recalls and lyrics callbacks that makes this song so CRAZY This here is the last saga
This song being someone's introduction to the musical is crazy 😭
FR 🤣
Seriously. Just coming in right in the middle of the final stretch. Literally. I mean, Telemachus’ entrance doesn’t hit hard unless you know his motif and Mico’s voice can sound like Jorge’s. Nor would you understand the significance of “mercy”. There’s also the chant in the background that’s actually saying something. Also the r word. That will sound like completely out of left field for a newbie.
Still! It’s cool that he still felt the impact of it all. Especially during the mercy part when he got goosebumps. I’d say it’s a testament to everyone’s work.
@@RiskoPlexus RIGHT?! and the aiming for the torches, or even the where is he chorus
He won’t know the lore of this musical or how it has been changed from the original myth
This song actually was also my introduction to this musical (granted, I had already read The Odyssey, so it wasn't like I was going in without any knowledge).
Tim: "What song should I do next"
The Comments: "Start at the Beggining! You're at the End!"
Real!!!
This is all 9 sagas and songs in order for you
1st saga - the troy saga
1. The horse and the infant
2. Just a man
3. Full speed ahead
4. Open Arms
5. Warrior of the mind
2nd saga - the cyclops saga
1. Polyphemus
2. Survive
3. Remember them
4. My goodbye
3rd saga - the ocean saga
1. Storm
2. Luck runs out
3. Keep your friends close
4. Ruthlessness
4th saga - the circe saga
1. Puppeteer
2. Wouldn't you like
3. Done for
4. There are other ways
5th saga - the underworld saga
1. The underworld
2. No longer you
3. Monster
6th saga - the thunder saga
1. Suffering
2. Different Beast
3. Scylla
4. Mutiny
5. Thunder bringer
7th saga - the wisdom saga
1. Legendary
2. Little Wolf
3. We'll be fine
4. Love in Paradise
5. God Games
8th saga - the vengeance saga
1. I'm not sorry for loving you
2. Dangerous
3. Charybdis
4. Get in the water
5. 600 strike
9th saga - the Ithaca saga
1. The Challenge
2. Hold them down
3. Odysseus
4. I can't help but wonder
5. Would you fall in love with me again
@@briannapadilla7622 thanks for giving him a list your awesome.
@jaynayoung108 No problem. I hope he loves this musical as much as I do, and a lot of others do as well
OMG
"Odysseus... I can't help but wonder... Would you fall in love with me again?"
I can't! ToT
Odysseus as your entry point is DIABOLICAL work 😂
Gives a fun perspective though! You're gonna love this musical. So many amazing vocals....
"Odysseus" as someone's first introduction to Epic has to be insane xD
You should really listen to it from beginning to end to have the best experience 👀
I will second this 👆🏻
I third this
4th vote here!
fourth this.
YES PLEASE
Congratulations youve summoned one of the most welcoming communities ive ever been part of.
Same man, same
We all arrive with open arms !
And we share the trauma equally!
You really should react from the beginning.
But if this is your first listen. What a song to choose 😂
I was like wait...what? Song 38? That's hilarous. It's litteral 2 more songs and the shows over.
“Odysseus” was probably the wildest start to learning about Epic the musical, I definitely suggest listening to it start to finish, it’s amazing and the guy who sings for Odysseus (Jorge), casted the people for the songs and wrote all the songs, but I MOST definitely!! Suggest “Thunder Bringer”, “Would you love me again”, “Ruthlessness”, and “Legendary”
Epic is such an incredible musical, most of the "main" characters actually have specific instruments, or even specific themes. For example, Odysseus' instrument is the guitar that u can really hear at 1:29. In some songs its more acoustic, but when he gets angry its more electronic.
Like everyone else is commenting, the best experience is to listen from the beginning to end. It starts off much lighter, and gets darker as the songs progress. However if you are just looking for a few songs to react to "God Games" has 7 unique singers all coming together for an incredible song, its 100% a fan favorite.
Awesome thanks for this!
Oh, I didn’t even think about God Games, that’s a great suggestion for a variety of vocalists!
@@TimWelchVocalStudio Amd you can hear Telemachus Instrument at 3:59
@@TimWelchVocalStudioyou should also listen to “no longer you” there’s some amazing vocals!!!
I can honestly and comfortably say that you’ll have tens of thousands of listeners if you cover any epic songs. If you do the whole thing from start to finish your channel will grow a heck of a lot.
Noted, thanks! 🙏🏼
I second this ❤
Solid advice. I only just found this channel because of this reaction vid and subscribed in hope he'll react to more EPIC songs ^^''
Jorge single handedly created the Violence genre in music.
You talked a lot about how great some of the singers in the project are, but the unbelievable thing is that most of the singers in this song only ever appear in this one song. This speaks a lot about the quality of the project itself because if those single song characters are so well voiced you can imagine how amazing the main singer (Odysseus), who ironically does not actually sing much in this song titled after him, and all the other "main" characters are.
This project has been a occupying a large section of my brain rent free since February and I'm so excited where they'll go with it now that the concept album is done. Thank you for your great reaction and welcome to the EPIC fandom.
💛✨🙏🏼
@@TimWelchVocalStudio Indeed. As Coveredinbees93 stated, only Odysseus (the starting vocalist) and Telemachus (The prince) are recurring voices/major characters. While the other vocalists are indeed good, it speaks volumes to the many other voices of main characters that these voices don't shine nearly as bright.
Please go back and listen from the beginning for the full effect! Jorge has a playlist on his channel of all songs in order, I believe.
So cool to see you pick up this series! With Epic, you really have to start from the beginning and go in order to get the full effect. Jorge Rivera-Herrans (the creator of the musical and voice of Odysseus) has said that he was inspired by Peter and The Wolf, so each character in Epic has their own signature instrument within the backing track, and there's a ton of little leitmotifs that are always being called back to in later songs, so you can pretty much always tell what's happening if you pay close attention to the instrumentals. There should be a full playlist of all the sagas in order, but you should look into "The Horse and the Infant" and "Just a Man" next. :)
Oh wow, interesting. Thanks!! 🙏🏼
@@TimWelchVocalStudio I’d suggest watching the animatics of these two starting songs from the artist/channel Gigi. It’s always great fun paying respects to both the author Jorge for this immaculate concept album and the great work these animators put in to convey what happens visually in these songs so it’s up to you as I’m sure many fans would be ecstatic watching your reactions to both animatics and just listening to the songs too. Praise to all involved!
This being your first intro to the musical is crazy 😭
Especially when you haven't heard the lead singer's, Jorge or the creator of the musical, full range, considering this is one of the darkest songs of the entire musical
Just letting you know, ‘Odysseus’ is song 38/40 I believe of the series. So, I would highly recommend starting from the beginning, because the entire Musical is phenomenal ❤️
He may react to the wrong song, but he picked the best one .
There are some cool "rules" and stuff with the musical. Like how every character has a signature instrument. There are countless motifs in the music, but the most famous one is the "danger is nearby" motif that I wonder if you could spot after a few sagas.
Also when it comes to backing vocals, if it is a human character in the lead, the ensemble is coming from something in the environment (other humans/spirits) but if it's a god singing they can just summon a choir as a show of their power.
Please listen to the entire thing! And I highly recommend watching the animatics to go with it. There are great playlists out there (and us fans would be thrilled to point you in the right direction)
100% down for this
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There are sooooo many anamatics!! Several of which Jorge would commission parts of for the official song releases.
GUYS! WE GOT ANOTHER WINION!!!! Welcome (in the tone you will get when you start listening from the beginning).
Seriously … with this album, there is a whole group of fans that are lovingly passionate about it to the point we bought the first 2 sagas twice due to the creator not being paid the first time around for them.
Also … try to find the animatics. It gives more context to what’s going on.
Ladie and gentlemen! We got another one! Yippee!
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This is a HELL of a song to start with 😅
One more victim to drag down into the depths of the trauma that is EPIC y'all, GET HIM!
I'd love to see you react to this song once again after you've listened to the songs in order and have the proper context btw. You will find that there are clear references to many of the past songs in this one
AND there are animatics to go with every song, I strongly advise for you to watch them while listening, too! If you don't know which animatic to react to you can also use the livestream which they made where they react to all the songs one by one, there are commissioned animatics in that one. But there are plenty of playlists with the songs and animatics in order already as well!
No because I went to check your previous reactions to this musical and my jaw DROPPED when I realized this song was your first impression 😂 it hits different when you watch it in order, lots of musical motifs. But wow I can’t imagine listening to this out of context what a trip!
Welcome to Epic the Musical! We embrace you with open arms
LMAO NOT THE OPEN ARMS
@isabellajuarezluna2744 😈
I wouldn’t have advised starting here, but it makes sense that you listen to the main character song. “Just a Man” or “Monster” are songs that you should start with if you’re trying to go for techniques the singer uses to convey emotions. But all songs are good. Every instrument represents a specific character.
This really is a beginning to end kind of experience, it's built on a lot of musical motifs and callbacks.
Oh, you need to go from the beginning- there's so many intwined musical themes that are built from the start! If you want one long official run through, Jorge Rivera Herrans (the writer and creator) posted the entire thing with canon animatics on his channel; if you want the fan animatics (which are more animated than many of Jorge's pieces), there are a number of youtube playlists that show them in order. Jorge also has a playlist with just the songs in order, as well, if you want only music (personally, I think you should do some form of visuals, it was written as a musical and visual piece). Maybe reach out to Moritus, another content creator, he's been making a project out of recommending the best animatics. But welcome to the fandom for this wonderful, amazing musical- I don't think there's any song in the entire playlist that's less than good. Most and beyond great!
imagine THIS being your introduction to Epic. it's going to be SO much fun for you to go through the whole thing and identify the themes that come back up.
awesome to see new people react to EPIC, its such an awesome piece of art. Would certainly suggest watching the whole thing in order, it is a Beautiful journey!
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PLLEEEEEEAAAAASSEEEE listen to it from the beginning 🙏🏻, this song is near the end, and it’s SO COOL how Jorge (the writer) adds elements from previous songs and sagas, but you can only fully appreciate all of the work he puts into the songs if you listen to them in order, because of how he adds in the previous songs. Of course if you’ve already listened to them all once it doesn’t matter, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, for my sanity listen to it from the beginning 🙏🏻.
Really glad you're checking this out! I'd recommend "Little Wolf" for some fun vocals or "The Underworld" for some more drama.
That’s what I need, thanks!
Other interesting vocals that might be fun to explore: “My Goodbye”, “Puppeteer”, “Ruthlessness”, “We’ll Be Fine”…. If you don’t go through the whole musical anyway and just want to pick out stuff to look at vocally.
(I vote the whole musical from the beginning, you’ll probably get enough viewers to make it worthwhile, the EPIC fandom is *passionate*)
Great reaction ! 😁
I'd personally recommend reacting to Epic The Musical Saga by Saga but if you prefer to do it to through small videos here is the order I suggest ^^
• *Troy Saga*
-The Horse And The Infant
-Just A Man
- Full Speed Ahead
- Open arms
- Warrior of the mind
( These 5 go together )
• *The Cyclops Saga*
- Polyphemus
- Survive ( They follow each other so you should watch them together )
- Remember them
- My Goodbye ( they also follow each other )
• *Ocean Saga*
- Storm
-Luck Runs Out ( You can watch them together if you want but if you don't it's fine )
- Keep your friends close
- Ruthlessness ( These two follow each other too )
• *Circe Saga*
- Puppeteer
- Wouldn't you like ( Watching those two together is up to you and what you want )
-Done for
- There are other ways ( These two go together )
• *Underworld Saga*
- The Underworld
- No longer you
- Monster ( I'd recommend watching those 3 together personnally )
• *Thunder Saga*
- Suffering
- Different Beast ( These two go together )
-Scylla
- Mutiny
- Thunder Bringer ( Those 3 go together )
• *Wisdom Saga*
- Legendary
- Little Wolf
- We'll Be Fine ( those 3 go together )
- Love In Paradise
- God Games ( I'd recommend reacting to them together )
• *The Vengeance Saga*
- Not Sorry For Loving You
-Dangerous
-Charybdis
- Get In The Water
- 600 Strike ( They all follow each other )
• *The Ithica Saga*
- The Challenge
- Hold Them Down
- Odysseus
- I Can't Help But Wonder
- Would You Fall In Love With Me Again ( these 5 follow each other )
The part were Odysseus' voice gets super deep always gives me chills, such amazing work from mr Jalapeño and the Epic cast
Everything about this musical is intentional and has at least 3 different meanings behind it. Every instrument, every note placement, every motif, all of it is so integral to each piece, it’s a masterful work. Once you’ve watched through it, I’d highly recommend checking out some of Jorge’s videos where he explains his reasoning for each of these decisions, it’s amazing work
You really need to start from the beginning. Every song is *chef's kiss*! The singers are all incredibly talented.
Hi welcome to the huge community of EPIC: THE MUSICAL one of the most beautiful warm and welcoming communities, we are happy to have you here, the musical is an experience on it's own no matter how you choose to : hear it only OR watch the animatics along side the audio 🎉❤🎉🎉
My friend, you need to listen to the whole discography. Start with 'The Horse and the Infant'. its the first one, but seriously, watch them all in order. Its worth it.
I promise you: when you listen to the full musical and then come back to this song it will hit SO different. That's not just because you will know the context but because it is full of motifs from previous songs that make it so much more emotional and so much of the things they say way more meaningful! That's also because many of those motifs represent a specific aspect of Ody's journey and character development (e.g. "just a man" stands for his humanity and also helplessness in the face of impossible and cruel challenges, so every time characters give in to temptations or feel weak, you will hear "just an man" play. Or "open arms" represents choosing peace.) That's why it's sooo important to listen to the musical in the coreect order!
The first part is called the Troy saga with the first song called “The horse and the infant”
The order of the albums is as follows
Troy
Cyclops
Ocean
Circe
Underworld
Thunder
Wisdom
Vengeance
Ithaca
Way to jump right into the deep end with no floaties, my guy. 😂
I saw this and I was like “did I miss an entire series?” And when you said this is your first song I spat out my drink laughing. You really need to go from the start not just because it’s in order but all of this musical is so so good.
You need to go back to the beginning it is amazing what he and his team did it won’t be disappointing btw I’m subscribing because of this video alone
You’re right, there is some work on the vocals as this has yet to become a stage play. We’re all excited to hear this in a live setting, but until then the Concept Albums are glorious!
Though it would be quite a project, I definitely recommend listening to the whole of Epic if this song made you curious since this song is one of the final songs of the musical and therefore a lot of emotional payoff is probably lost on you. (And just a week ago the Ithaca Saga came out, and the song you reacted to is one of the songs from this final saga, so you won't have to wait for the rest to be released :)) Should you decide you want to listen from the beginning, the first saga is The Troy Saga, the first song is The Horse and the Infant, starting with the invasion of Troy)
Just some fun facts about this song in particular (because I saw some comments explaining more about Epic as a whole):
For almost all of its runtime, Epic follows Odysseus on his journey back home and until the third to last saga we follow exclusively him. It is focusses a lot on his struggles with his morals and justifying doing terrible things to get back to his wife and son - and how that changes him.
All the songs that feature a monster and that detail how he encounters and fights them have the monster's name in the title ("Polephemus", "Scylla", "Charybdis" - which are not gods, for gods the rule doesn't count exactly, but those songs are usually named after a description of said (half)god). And in "Odysseus", he is the "final boss", as the creator Jorge Rivera-Herrans aptly put it. We can see how terrifying he is from the perspective of others for the first time, since this "Odysseus" is following the suitors (the other men singing who all want to marry Odysseus's wife Penelope in the king's absence). Up until then it was always focussed on Odysseus
The part where the suitors sing "hold him down" is a callback to the previous song (something that Jorge does *expertly* and a lot - and which might be one of my favourite things about epic concerning the music and melodies).
As some other's stated already, the pivotal characters have their own instruments, which allows for amazing textpainting (if that is the correct word here). I don't know how familiar you are with The Odyssey, but Athena mentors Odysseus and then later his son Telemachus. So when the prince appears, you can hear Athena's instrument and the melody Telemachus is introduced with (from the song Legendary), another example for a reference to a previous song.
If you just want to experience some cool vocals, I would recommend Scylla, Just a Man, Warrior of the Mind, My Goodbye and Ruthlessness :)) (I just noticed these are all from the first half except for Scylla but these are some of my faves)
Omg I am so happy you reacted to this! But please react since the beginning
Trust us on this, watch the animatics as well for each song. It provides sooooo much context for the scenes
Oh come on, it's like starting watching wicked with No Good Deed
Oooo, I like this! I am going to find it.
Seems like there is a world around this!!
I would love to see more epic reactions it is absolutely stacked with talented singers
My next suggestion is to check out the first two songs with Gigi's combined animatic - The Horse and the Infant + Just A Man 😊
I would suggest you to do the full reaction from start to finish, the product is amazing
I love the whole thing but I highly recommend Ruthlessness and Just a Man. Also Keep your Friends Close is one of my favorites. I do recommend listening to it all the way through.
For vocals I'd advice:
Would you fall in love with me again?
God Games
There are other ways
Get in the water
Thunderbringer
Love in paradise
I can't help but wonder
"The challenge" too
I strongly advise to watch from beginning to end , and with animatics that are on youtube for a better understanding of what is happening with some musical motivs or sounds
So I loved your reaction. Others have told you you're basically at the end rather than the beginning and I hope you stick with the releases for the first listen at least (the animatics are fun too). If you would, when you go thru the sagas in order re-react to this one with all the context you gain. I ask because you noticed the theme changes, thankfully, and the each character has their own theme along with their own instrument. For instance, and without spoiler as much as possible, when the Prince appeared, you heard his theme alongside another I won't say whose. But *you* noticed both which is why I think you'll like the full album.
i have a feeling youre gonna have a lot of fun with this musical!
Oh man! What a way to enter this fandom🤣 you need to go from the beginning with The Troy Saga. Another suggestion, there are a TON of animatics to these and the visuals help so much (even though they are not needed to grasp the story!)
Watch the full thing from the beginning to end. It’s amazing all the way through.
Hooooboy, "Odysseus" is one helluva starting point XD
I was shocked when i couldn't fine the rest of this musical on your channel, this being your start to epic is wild 💀 (please check out the horse and the infant!)
Starting with the 3rd to last song is crazy
Oh please continue with the Epic reactions!
This song is actually one of the last ones of the musical (and honestly not that interesting vocally). I would recommend you to listen to the first two songs "The Horse and the Infant" and "Just a Man". Other songs that I think that are interesting to analyze would be "ruthlessness", "thunder bringer", "scylla", "wouldn't you like", "there are other ways", "no longer you", "monster", "hold them down" and "would you fall in love with me again" (the last song). This musical has a lot of characters, so each song has different dynamics and vocal showcases
In a priority order, I would recommend you the first ones, and then ruthlessness and thunder bringer
Awesome, thanks! 🙏🏼
This is a good list! (….how did I forget Scylla in my “interesting vocals” suggestion, shame on me)
A warning about hold them down… it’s extremely dark
Honestly this was a really fun reaction, you may have picked one of the most confusing songs to start with but it did make your reaction very unique
what an introduction this must have been for you. Never read the last page lol But I hope this inspires you to watch more from the start
I have subscribed just to watch you go through the full epic journey. You need to start with horse in the infant and go all the way through. With the background you described you are going to love this musical. I cannot wait to see you experience How odysseus got to the song You just heard
I highly recommend you listen go all of them in order because there is so much talent in this musical. Also I think yo will enjoy Thunder Bringer as Luke Holt (the main singer in that song) is INCREDIBLE!!!! Along with Jorge Rivera Herrans the person who wrote the musical. :D
Please do a reaction to the whole series ❤ the build up to what you have heard now is insane. Every saga is incredible in it's own way. The detail Jorge puts into everything is something i think you would appreciate. If you do a reaction please do it one saga at a time and not song by song bc it's connects in a different way. The animatics are a plus if you want to catch everything that's going on
Hi Tim, Happy New Year, I've just found out about your channel and have been binge watching it. Thanks
Aww, thanks Anne and welcome! 🙏🏼 ✨
I would suggest starting from the beginning and watching some animatics with your reactions. It helps a lot with the not being sure who's talking bit and the animators that have taken it on themselves to make animations for this musical are all just fantastic. Start with The Horse and the infant. Hope to see more of this, looking forward to seeing your take on it.
What a way to enter the EPIC fandom!!! If you listen through the whole thing from the beginning, you can notice the TON of callbacks and context to the motifs in this song!
I would highly recommend watching any of the animatics to these songs. Helps to give context sometimes.
This is CRAZY to go in as your first. For a lot of people their first is Get In The Water, but it does need to be listened to in order from beginning to end. The creator, Jorge Rivera Herrans has a full playlist of the albums in order. The livestreams on his channel contain official animatics if there are any story points that feel unclear just from the music, there are many MANY fan animatics, but most are not canon and should be regarded as fan art and not official interpretations of the story.
Jorge has done a lot of incredible work with the instrumentals and motifs and once youre familiar with the main ones it's incredible to break the later songs down. This song itself contains melodical and lyrical callbacks to "The Horse & The Infant", "600 Men", "Open Arms", "Polyphemus", "Monster", "Scylla" and like one or two others. Incredible composing work by Jorge I could go on for hours
You called it on the electronic elements, its important to the way Jorge does the Gods songs. The gods can do certain things mortal characters can't, they use electronic elements and can create their own choruses.
In this, Odysseus has just crossed from mortal into something more, almost god-like, which in turn changes his music. It's crazy
i can't wait to see you react to this musical from the beginning, welcome to Epic the musical :D
I hope you do the entire series because it really is an amazing journey to take. If you need visuals to go with the songs there are animatics, but to me the best part is that every character has a specific instrument that basically identifies them in songs and it'll be interesting to see if you pick up what instrument goes to each character,
I actually agree with you at 7:45 about the editing. I absolutely love Epic and have been following the musical for years but it’s true that the vocals can get too processed sometimes. Which is not bad necessarily, just that it can sounds kind of muted or ‘drowned’ to me sometimes (i can’t quite explain it, hope you get what I mean 🥲). You can actually hear the difference quite well if you do a back to back listen with the song snippets Jorge posted. People doesn’t seem to mind the edit that much but tbh if the rawness is kept I think the songs will definitely be even better (especially since things like growling is a big part of epic and what set it apart a lot for me)
EPIC is an amazing musical! Apart from listening to it on order, I suggest you watching fan animatics or Jorge's livestream, it gives you a more visual understandment of the songs and makes it easier to comprehend the story!
While the story will probably make more sense if you take it in order, the saga I'm most interested in seeing your reaction to is the Circe saga - the vocalist for Circe (Talya Sindel) is phenomenal. Absolutely glorious soprano. (The Circe saga is by far my favorite specifically because of her.) The songs she's on are Puppeteer, Done For, and There are Other Ways.
If you decide to watch fan-made animatics to help track what's going on during the songs, I highly recommend Gigi's videos, especially for Puppeteer and There are Other Ways.
Good luck with your Epic journey!
what a stirring song... great vid! Id love to hear more of your commentary and insight
Others may have mentioned it, but in addition to the audio recordings played over the cover art, there are also (several) fan drawn animatics for each of the songs (with the possible exception of the last saga [last 5 songs] that were just released a week and a half ago). Although the music does (when played in order) do a good job of conveying what is happening and telling the story, some find the extra visual helpful for following, even if it is not officially cannon.
What a way to get introduced to Epic
This musical (especially this song) use a lot of callbacks from previous songs so its best to listen to in order. I think someone else already post the order of the songs but I'd like to add that there are also fan animatics and official commissioned animatic for each song that'll make it easier to understand what's happening as you're listening to the music
Kept talking about how many amazing voices ... That's what happens when you pull from the ENTIRE INTERNET. Like, hundreds of auditions, people all around the world, etc... it's so amazing lol
Welcome to the community man. This is definately an... interesting first impression choice
He has become one with the Winions. I highly recommend you listen to all the other songs in order thought!
I loved watching your reaction to this with no context. Hopefully, you decide to continue watching from the beginning because I'd love to see you react to this song again after experiencing all the ups and downs that lead to this song.
Definitely check out the visual live stream on his channel it is so good and worth your time
Please do more epic the musical!!
Epic is really easy, just look up the songs in order and listen to them. This is the last saga aka the last five songs, so it’s kinda funny you’re starting from here, but the whole thing is worth it.
You should really watch it from start to finish. He makes a bunch of call backs in songs. In this song for example he suitor says “Open arms” in a line which is a song and a call back to one of Odysseus’ friend. You should watch it with the official livestream it has his canon visual
"Odysseus" as someones first song ever heard is insane! I would really like seeing your reaction to the whole epic the musical. The animatics are also pretty good, but since your focus is the voices maybe its good to not see the animatics. All the main characters have like there own instrument associated with them, for example the instrumental where telemachus came in was Athenas If I'm not mistaken! You've started with the last saga that was just released around Christmas this year.
The first would be the Troy Saga - > First song "The horse and the infant"
I recommend watching the animatics from start to finish this musical is a hidden gem trust me😁
I love epic the musical but I also definitely agree with your opinion on preferring raw voices to auto tune!
I can’t wait for you to listen to the rest!
If you listen to the rest of the sagas (in order is highly recommended and then revisiting this song when you get to it cause there will be a lot of little details that connect to the previous ones that you’ll notice like how a lot of the characters have a melody associated with them so when they play it means the character has entered) I would also suggest watching the animatics as they help fill in the story based off of the creators canon animatics he live-streamed when the sagas were released. Cause there’s a lot of detail that he had in mind when writing the songs and some background sound effects shows this but unless you really know the lore of the story you’d miss those details. Like for example (spoiler alert) in this song the kinda twang and then swishing noise is Odysseus shooting his bow and killing the suitors under cover of darkness, so all those other voices also singing keep changing cause he’s killing the men and others start singing
My absolute favorite song in the whole musical (for the stunning vocals, NOT what they're singing about) is Hold Them Down, and I would LOVE to see you react to it. It's such a good villain song, and Ayron's voice is so smooth and gorgeous.
A few others I'd like to see would have to be No Longer You, Monster, Just a Man, My Goodbye, Little Wolf, and Not Sorry for Loving You
YOU HAVE NO IDEA MAN. IT'S. INCREDIBLE. JORGE RIVERA-HERRANS HAS CHANGED MY LIFE THROUGH THIS MUSICAL, I HOPE HE DOES FOR YOU TOO.
LMAOOO of all the songs to start with 😂
I love how you picked the 3rd last song in the entire saga. Would recommend doing some googling before jumping into projects like this in the future though I heavily appreciate the vibes you bring with that action.
This song hits even better when you listened to everything from the beginning cause there are some instrumental recalls and lyrics callbacks that makes this song so CRAZY
This here is the last saga