Does the Old Testament Dehumanize Women? Dr. Sandy Richter
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2024
- Dr. Sandy Richter is LEGIT!! In this fascinating conversation, Sandy helps us understand the alleged "marry your rapist" law in Deuteronomy 22:28, which has been mistranslated as you'll see. She also walks us through the "marry your conquered enemy's wife" allowance in Deuteronomy 21. These texts have troubled me for YEARS and have raised questions in my own mind about whether the Old Testament dehumanizes women. Actually, it does the opposite. When you understand it in its own cultural context, you'll see that the Bible actually humanizes women much, much more than we realize.
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It was a delightful interview. Congrats
I'll be sharing this interview with many people. First, kudos to you Preston for your interest in how women are treated in the Bible and up through the ages to our times. The women you interview are instruments of change, but so are you and other men who care. Thank you. Second, Sandra Richter you are a Rock Star. Thank you for providing facts on translations, word meaning, the ancient near east culture, how God meets us where we are, and for sharing your own story. The world and church are full of people who want to silently define women as" lesser than." Third, I want to encourage people to contact members of the NIV, ESV and CSB translation committees (and there are many other translations that need to examine their translations and contributors), and question why so few outstanding scholars--who happen to be female--are not on their contributors list. Check your own Bible. For instance, ESV has about 150 contributors. All men. My own CSB, as beautiful as it reads, has two women, one of them authoring The Bible and Women. Let's change that. In the meantime, I'll be rereading all the beautiful ways Jesus supported, defended, protected, elevated, and chose women. I'll read again who stayed with Jesus at the cross, who watched over his burial, who lingered at the tomb, who Jesus chose to make His first resurrection appearance, and who was chosen to run and tell the despondent disciples "He has risen." On that contributors list, it's all female.
Here is the Will of the Lord!
"11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression".
1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV)
And again.
"As in all the churches of God's holy people, 34 the women must keep silent.
They don't have the right to speak........ It's **shameful for a woman to speak in church.
36 Did God's word originate with you? Are you the only ones it has reached?
37 Whoever thinks that he speaks for God or that he is spiritually gifted must acknowledge that what I write to you is what the Lord commands."
1 Corinthians 14:33-37 (GW)
If any are "spiritually gifted' they will obey Paul and "Acknowledge" "What the Lord commands".
Right?
If they refuse, which I strongly suspect they will, then they are not "spiritually gifted" just as no woman is, who would dare defy the Lord's command on this issue, now plaguing the lax, unfaithful, Churches of Christendom today.
This was EXCELLENT!!!!!!? I loved every bit of it. Thank you so much ☺️
Sandy rocks. This is great to give her the time for a deeper dive into these things.
Great conversation ... loved that Sandy shared such exegetical detail!
Thanks for explaining this concept
Thanks Preston! Have you read “Paul and Gender” by Cynthia Westfall Long? If so, have you considered an interview? Might be be a fun session! God bless!
Love this please do more videos she spoke so clearly on this topic.
Most of my questions have been answered. Thanks.
Thank you for contextualising this. It's all still horrible for us but you're right in that all the law codes were crazy. Getting away from sex for a moment there is one Mesopotamian law (not sure what code it's from) where if you build a house for another family and the house falls on their son and kills him then they come and kill your son. There's basically just no sense of human rights. It's kind of like the only person who gets to be a legal "person" is the patriarch and everything is applied to him in an eye-for-an-eye method. But those people still had concepts of familial love and a righteous life, you only have to read the Epic of Gilgamesh to see that.
I was born in an atheist household but I was called to be devout from a tiny child somehow. I read the child's bible to my brother and I said prayers when I was scared from these books my grandmother gave us. Thus was all really insubstantial and I wanted more. We were involved in the Anglican church briefly, that felt like nothing. I decided at the age of 16 to read the Bible from cover to cover. It was incredibly traumatic, especially as I was in a very sexually dangerous environment at the time. These passages (and everything else horrible) were not what I expected to find at all. By the time I got to the NT I was just HORRIFIED.
What's kind of contextualised things for me too is that in Biblical times hardly anyone could read. No one who wrote this intended a female child would have the OT in her hands reading it alone. It was for very important people like teachers, judges, kings etc.
I found my own way to Christ mostly through academics because 99% of religious leaders seem to only care about controlling people's bodies and nothing about leading people to experience anything real. It was a long weird road that took 40 years. And to you I'm probably some kind of heretic but I'm where I need to be.
Thanks again 😀
I don't think you are a heretic. You are a Child of God. ✝️
Love Theology in the Raw and Sandy Richter. Also, dang there’s a lot of ads on this video!
Thanks Jeremy! And man--I'm still figuring out the ads. I do "monetize" my videos--because a brother has to eat :)--but I'm still learning how it all works. The ads are put their from the UA-cam powers above, so I don't have much control over them (I don't think). I hope they're not too distracting!!
I hear ya. I definitely got a lot out of it. I’m very grateful for folks like you who tackle tough questions but in a way that is easy to understand. Keep up the good work and God bless!
Incredible, awesome interview! Huge shout out to Sandra Richter and Preston Sprinkle for an outstanding, scholarly, and well done show! Excellent on all fronts! Anyone have the Old Testament Blues? Take a swig of this interview :)
Great video!
Could you please add a link in the description or share it here to the article she references in this conversation towards the beginning of the talk? I could not find it when I was searching (or I’m not sure it’s the same one). I would REALLY like to read more of what she says she addresses in the forthcoming article. This is such a timely topic and it’s great to be introduced to such a rich resource on Richter.
Outstanding!!!
So G-d's word is not cross-cultural. Why wouldn't The Almighty reveal his word to all cultures? I never got why An All-knowing, All-powerful being would endorse only one culture, and provide only the one context.
what do you mean
The Epic of Eden - fantastic book!
Westmont university????