Joscha Bach - Consciousness as a coherence-inducing operator
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2023
- A theory of consciousness should capture its phenomenology, characterize its ontological status and extent, explain its causal structure and genesis, and describe its function. Here, I advance the notion that consciousness is best understood as an operator, in the sense of a physically implemented transition function that is acting on a representational substrate and controls its temporal evolution, and as such has no identity as an object or thing, but (like software running on a digital computer) it can be characterized as a law. Starting from the observation that biological information processing in multicellular substrates is based on self organization, I explore the conjecture that the functionality of consciousness represents the simplest algorithm that is discoverable by such substrates, and can impose function approximation via increasing representational coherence. I describe some properties of this operator, both with the goal of recovering the phenomenology of consciousness, and to get closer to a specification that would allow recreating it in computational simulations.
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If you look at humans as a collective being, JB would be the consciousness looking back unto itself. Thank you and thx for sharing!
What a great talk, a very succinct and concrete definition of building consciousness.
12:40 makes me wanna tear up - I just love how Joscha eloquently blends technology and philosophy so easily and makes it easy to understand
Joscha is truly one of a kind. I could listen to him all day every day.
One of the greatest minds of the century
Amazing! I am so thankful to be alive during this time.
The progress of the models how the brain works JB is producing over the years is astonishing. I'm glad JB has excellent communication skills.
The most basic consciousness is emergent from the collective of the individual organisms that a conscious being is comprised of. The “higher” thoughts we create are simply the organisms occupying their time while our bodies have satisfied their collective existence requirements.
Compelling, clear and articulate. Thank you!
As a note, it's not as simple as saying "our minds don't sample the quantum world, but the quantum world is actually there" because our *atoms* can't sample those quantum worlds entirely either.
So it's less "my perception is like a computer game" and more "My perception is like through a mobile phone screen/camera". There are physical interactions we observe, but we might not sample extremely high number, but also the sampling device is physical, though managed via "software".
i like this definition
Why, no arrow from attention agent to motivation agent? Surely what you pay attention to can in fact change your motivation in a way not directly influenced by your environment.
thank you
Yes, can we get AI to vibe with us?
i dunno what the title means but its got joscha so i'm in
Copy of transcript for my own notes
in our brain this is
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very different because our brain is not
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made out of uh aimless transistors it is
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made out of single- cell animals that
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have shared Destiny and need to survive
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and they can only survive if they find
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some kind of arrangement between each
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other that allows the organism to find
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food for the neurons
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so this is the situation that they're in
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and as a result they get some emerging
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organization a self organization from
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inside out and there's no point and no
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point a global structure that is not the
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result of some inside out growing self
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organization right and so if you build
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an information processing system like a
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machine Learning System out of
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completely self-organizing elements what
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does this look like and I think what it
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looks like is not anything like the
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current machine learning algorithms it's
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something where you need to create
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increasing coherence so it's you get
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create an island of coherence at first
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something that has a coherent reward
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language and semantic language of
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thought so to speak and that is then
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growing and is colonizing the cortex
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into a coherent pattern that allows you
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to explain reality and at the core of
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this to make this happen this coherence
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happen is the self-observing Observer
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it's the minimal coherent pattern right
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it's something that notices I'm here I'm
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observing and so I'm growing out it's
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quite beautiful because it's basically
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the core of the card's meditation K agum
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I think is not some philosophical
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statement about ontology that allows you
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to make a derivation it's the strategy
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that you can introspectively observe
Wow, we are listening to genius here.
based
Joscha needs to be in charge of OpenAI
10:00, 11:44
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that's it😂😂😂
So where is the code ?
godhub
I think the purpose of the talk is to get people interested in the idea.
No. Consciousness is not software. It is not virtual. It is not computational. It is not a simulacrum. It is real. It is verb, not noun. It is energy, not mass. it subsists on life. In came into being by evolution that created the magic where bioelectric discharge is the substance of consciousness, life as we experience it, and all our phenomenal impressions.