Jason, you've encouraged me to reach out to some older friends who have roses and ask if I can help them in their gardens with various tasks that become too much when you're older, and they can help me out with cuttings! Thanks for all you do with your helpful and encouraging videos.
I have three roses that were my great-grandmother and have propagated them many times. And they are so hardy, they will survive anything. And many other roses propagated from roses from 1900-1950. I love them and they are beautiful additions to my garden.
Thanks so much for this and for your thoughts on the importance of individual action. I am the steward of the old house my parents bought in 1958. Back then the Victorian gardens survived, and the glory of these were the climbing or rambling roses. They covered the rustic cedar fences and arbors with bloom in June and people gasped at the spectacle. After 35 years as a rental, not a thing survived when I returned in 2002. A neighbor had dug and saved a piece of one pink climber, which had struggled to live in her garden, and she gifted it to me on my return. Once home, that rose took off in the rich old soil and I’ve planted pieces of it around the garden. It is the glory of this place again and covers fences, clambers over the old privy shed and stone well, and brings back the days when visitors stopped in wonder at this little bit of Eden. I’ve not been able to identify this beauty yet, but know that one of the lost roses was “Tausenshoen,” a 1906 climber. It is on the list to add to a new fence once built. Old roses with a single bloom may put off some gardeners, but they give such abundance and tend to be exceptionally hardy. My New England garden takes beating winter winds and the full sun of summer, and this dainty looking beauty sloughs it all off. I can have some more modern, repeat bloomers, but this that I’ve named the “Pinelock” rose, after the house, remains the backbone of the garden.
Thanks Doug. Wonderful to hear about your restoration efforts. I do understand why gardeners who have limited space will often prefer strong repeat bloomers, but on a larger property I always encourage friends to try at least one old rambler or other old garden rose. They flow with the seasons, of course, and they're not always in bloom - but often become a garden favorite for (relatively) easy care and massive show!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Thank you for your reply, Jason. I completely agree. I’d love roses in bloom all season, but the spectacle of an old rambler is so worth giving room if one has it. I am now in search of one that can take shade and bitter winds, in hopes it could cloak the steep bank down to the cove. I prefer white if possible, but will take what I can get. I’ve tried “Enigma” - an old Chinese rose - which is intensely fragrant, and manages to survive, but doesn’t really thrive there.
Fascinating and inspiring, thanks for another educational video on old/rarer roses. I wholeheartedly agree with starting change as an individual- after all the only control we have is over ourselves. (As a Scottish transplant to the USA, I so appreciate the use of Scots instead of Scotch!)
Jason your videos always inspire me! We are moving from U.K. to Bulgaria next year, not far from Rose Valley 🌹 I’ll have plenty of land, and after seeing your other videos I thought what better than to establish a collection of old roses!? Maybe start a nursery? Or just keep a collection for its own sake. I agree it’s so important to preserve old non-commercial varieties, I’ve kept heritage/rare breed livestock over the years so why not plants now? I love the idea of trading, I’ll have to keep it within EU I guess but what better way to preserve them!
Love love love Stanwell!!! Unfortunately I have had many die on me for various reasons. I will continue to purchase him because it is truly a worthy rose. It's wonderful you are bringing attention to preserve so many of these roses.
Very good! I'm trying to do this here in Brazil, together with a group of friends. We are thinking of founding a society of rose lovers. We still don't have one in Brazil. Thank you very much!
Thanks for another great video about preserving roses! I follow the California groups that are working so hard to preserve roses - they are setting an amazing example of what the rest of us need to do, but they have also endured their difficult setbacks (such as the Sacramento Cemetery situation). I wish more of the rose societies would dedicate resources towards similar projects - perhaps videos like yours will help inspire that to happen. It was years before I discovered that the little town I live in has a fascinating history of rose breeding/growing prior to 1965. It's shocking to me how all of that disappeared so completely and is now nothing more than a couple of photographs, a few articles in newspaper archives, a few living examples in public gardens, and an occasional plant in an out-of-state rare rose auction.
Thanks - you're fortunate to be in such an important area for roses (and a great growing climate). I know a lot of production has moved east, but the rose societies and gardens in your area are second to none!
You are such a motivational person with such a big heart! And I think it's because your love for roses (and all other plants, of course)! And I want to thank you again and wish you success in everything you do! As the new year arrives, may you and all your loved ones be blessed and may you all be healthy, safe and happy! ❤ Greetings from Romania and thanks again with gratitude for your channel, I am learning so much!
Watching your videos is trouble! I can't stop thinking about the beautiful roses you show even though I donot have space for them.. Thank you for sharing such beauty and knowledge!
Jason in about 2 weeks I'm going to collect from a fomous rose nursery near Padua, Italy, 2 Madam Isaac Pereire...I'm so thrilled 💜...let's hope I don't kill them 🤗
Yes! Stanwell Perpetual. I got mine from Pickering in their last year, and it's amazing. Mine is in front of a paperback maple and it stops traffic. People ask about it. I explain that it is the only reblooming rose of its type and tell them the story of its discovery in 1838. It is available in a few places. I just wish I had room for more of them.
I know Rick from Calgary...he is a wonderful man and he collected a lot of roses when he went to CA ( John's place) a few years ago . His place is beautiful. You have to check his beautiful garden . I have seen all his pics when he shared with Rose Forum on Houzz. Hats off to Rick !! ❤️❤️ Yes, the beauty is propagating old roses. Sharing is beyond words that we can all enjoy the beauty of their existence.
Thank you so much for your videos. You have been such a tremendous help for me in my garden. I just started „rose“ gardening 3 seasons ago, and in the beginning I hated the roses already in my garden. Especially in early spring & late fall. Since then I have added 20+ roses. Also, nochmals herzlichen Dank & eine wunderschöne Woche! Geraldine
I just asked to join your Canadian rose exchange! I’m not in Canada now but I grew up there and I still have family and friends there 💗 thank you for such great information! I have several old roses, apothecary rose, damask, bourbon, Portland centifolia old cabbage roses. 💗
A fine case in point: My now 25 year quest to try and find someone who still grows the Helen Cushing Rose. As a huge classic horror fan and rose lover/grower my entire life I've always wanted to grow this rose. It was cultivated by the Wheatcroft family in 1985 and brought to market in the UK in 86'. I haven't been able to find ANYONE stateside who ever had the flower and I can't wander around the UK to ask the people what they have growing in the garden (that would be nice though, sigh...) It is my absolute Holy Grail rose find, and even though I'm 40 now I still have my fingers crossed. I've recently asked the NoCutts Company, who bought the Wheatcroft brand and licenses after the Wheatcrofts retired, if they still cultivate it at all. Haven't heard back yet, and I fear even they don't know, but I'll never give up.
Thanks for another great video Jason. I would love to purchase one (or 3) of the ‘Robert le Diable’ rose whenever you can ship to central Virginia. I appreciate your enthusiasm in preserving old roses. i have been successful in propagating Hydrangea ‘Nikko blue’, because i feel that, while they are available commercially, they appear to be disappearing from local Nuseeies.
Es una idea fantástica, yo he empezado a hacer esquejes correctamente, gracias a tus videos. La mayoría termino regalándolos, siempre a personas que saben de la dificultad que supone tener éxito con las plantas. Son rosas de los jardines que tienen algunos vecinos, no sabia que había tanta variedad. Tampoco sabia que algunas variedades estaban con patente. Algunos rosales me encantan y he intentado hacer esquejes, pero parece que no lo hago bien, o que son difíciles de enraizar. En fin no me canso de aprender, y de sorprender. En la zona donde vivo hay heladas bastante frecuentes, y las rosas parece aguantar muy bien este clima. Un saludo desde el interior de Alicante, España.
My mom had many roses when I was growing up, then I grew up and bought my house, and now I have 28 rose plants, most were already there when I bought, but I had to add a couple, and i live on a normal town house type lot
I salvaged a Grootendorst Red from an abandoned farm back in the “bush”. I had watched it for years as it got smaller and smaller… I finally brought it home, and now it pushes up canes 5’ tall with many bouquets of it’s scarlet chrysanthemum-like flowers, but the thorns are something else. I believe this was the first hybridized rose???
Many gardeners (small businesses or retired ones in particular) will gladly do rose propagation for you, be it by grafting material you bring them or by getting your cuttings to root. I haven´t done so with roses, yet, but with grafting material of old varieties of apples and pears. Look around in your area, you will find someone!
I get more & more tempted as you mentioned in another video.. madam plantier sidonie.. now Robert le diable.. but with 26 coming.. i’m holding back as pots & compost have gathered for them too.. roll on early November.. can’t wait.. i hope i don’t pass out when they arrive as i’m the only one planting them
Hi. In England with have shops similar to the dollar stores and shortly they sell bare rooted roses for less than a couple of pounds. Some are named they are grown in Holland. They are cheap and cheerful some flower well some don't but it's a start for growing roses that doesn't cost too much Brilliant video as always mate. Thanks 👍
Thanks Joe - what a deal on those roses. We sometimes see "body bag" bare root roses here for around $10 CAD, and I thought that was pretty inexpensive, but still a lot more than what you're talking about.
This is not just a Rose problem. There are thousands of varieties of corn from the middle ages that have been whittled down to a few cultivars that are commercially viable on as large scale. Those in turn are crossbred extensively to create super hybrids and the older varieties just cease to exist. I imagine it is the same with most agricultural crops.
Absolutely right - and my admiration goes out to those farmers and gardeners who keep uncommon strains of seed crops around for future generations. Livestock too, for that matter.
Thank you for all your information on here! I am just learning about roses (my husband and I bought land that has what may be an autumn damask that is very happy; because of cold climate it does not bloom twice here). I don't have money to be buying any right now, but am really hoping someday to be able to incorporate more (usually old garden) roses into my garden (I really like roses for how they complement a garden, not really much for other purposes). I'm especially interested in ones that would be hardy (zone 4) since I know it can be a lot of work, and I also want to grow and learn to grow other things (like food plants) that will take some learning to do.
Jason, I wish you lived here in central NY. I would love to be your apprentice and learn and grow all that you do. Although you can't get roses to me you have inspired me to find them elsewhere. As I've said before I added about 60 in 2021 but hope to get many more next year.
Jason I’ve now got 32 roses in big pots with vendors labels flying on them like flags to remind me of what’s what i have Omar qayyam as well extremely thorny .. i love the shape of star like flowers.. can’t wait .. it’s sprouting away
I have been looking for Common Moss for many years . I found it listed at Rogue Valley Roses but it was always sold out. I tried to get on a waitlist but they would never answer my emails. Finally this year I got one. I also bought Duc de Fitzjames, Siren's Keep , Cabbage Rose and Henri Martin. I live in Austin and the heat wipes out my old roses every few years. I really enjoy your channel and share it with my friends. I watch the videos over and over again. Does anyone have any experience with these roses that can help them be a success? i also just bought a new rose Fragrant Blush from Antique Rose Emporium that they claim has lots of petals, is fragrant and can handle 115F. Has anyone grown it?
I have shared my roses to friends and family over the years. Like old Gloria La France a pink mauve climber, Gloria d’ Jion apricot Noisette, Sir Clough a hot pink English climbing rose.
Hello Jason! I have many roses book like Graham Thomas, Peter Beales, David Austin and many others. I have two question that come round and round in my mind about roses. I am near 70s and I am a cancer survivor. I bear in mind concerning to the future of my garden. The once flowering roses ( old european roses like gallicas, albas, damasks, centifolia/moss, or even modern breeding roses like alchymist ) are great survivor general speaking, i think because after flowering period time they can concentrate on photosyntesis and storage their energies in roots and branches. The repeating old roses like china or tea are great survivor in milder climates that don’t freeze in winter time. Other roses like rugosas roses are near species and are reliable in many conditions. What do you think about more “modern” roses? The floribundas or hybrid tea of today are more robust, vigorous forming a more branching shrub than the varieties of 70/80/90. If we let them grow, they can develop in very big shrubs! Do you think that a own roots of today ( austin, kordes, meilland and so on ) or a modern repeating shrub ( like hybrid musk, pemberton or lens varieties ) can live ( or survive ) for century in neglected conditions ( once well etablished of course ) exactly like old roses? Do you think that these roses are worthing of preservation, like old roses? I think that the roses of today can be the “old roses of tomorrow”. I am in a “to be or not to be” situation😁 Thank you very much😘 Your videos are interesting and beautiful! Thank you for sharing your passion!🫶
Ohh, is that your view behind you during your work? I envy you. I have a beautifull yellow fragrance Postillion climber and a beautifull red silk Amadeus climber in my post stamp little patio. My way to have a nice view in the middle of the concrete city. Greetings from Tilburg, the Netherlands. 🌹
Nothing compares. Learned recently that rose bushes bearing only long stem single roses didn't exist until someone crossed a tea rose with a hybrid perpetual rose somewhere in France sometime in the 1,800s. Or something. La France. Who knew.
The first hybrid tea for sure. Some of the hybrid perpetuals and bourbons also were bred for exhibition-style stems too, but not with the distinctively high-centered buds of the modern HT. 1867 was a big year for roses (and incidentally, for Canada too!)
A nice sentiment, Jason. I now live in a lovely retirement establishment here in Melbourne, Australia dating back to the 1960's. Along with many native trees, we have lots of spectacular roses which I would like to identify and maybe propagate. Where to start..?
I wish I had a more clear cut answer to identifying unknown varieties - I'll make a video on this sometime soon, but honestly with the number of roses ever released, it's a matter of guessing close, and then trying to confirm by close comparison. Not easy.
I am so inspired. I have 4 roses in my garden here in Denmark that are probably from around 1948. I don't know the names and as they are not in bloom, I am not sure if the apps will be able to identify them. Have you had success with the apps identifying roses? I am determined to propagate them after watching this video.
Hi Katrin - no success at all with the apps. It's more likely that someone who's been involved with the rose societies or clubs locally will have a good idea of what was common in gardens of the era.
I planted a Rose 🌹 called Scarlet ♥️ Knight and it was absolutely beautiful but alas I can no longer find it. Then I have looked and looked for another called Sterling Silver a beautiful Lavender highly fragrant Rose 🌹. So I send out a "Help me Out". I'm a great lover of Old Fashioned Rose's 🌹. Sincerely Yours 🤠 Mr Severance, "The Cake 😋 🍰🎂 🥳🎉 🎈 Man", "World 🌎🌍 Cruiser"&"Succulent Collector", and "Teacup's & Saucer's Set's and Teapot 🫖 Collector". I'm a great Lover of Own Root Roses 🌹
I very love The old roses and I have some in my smal garden: Pierre de Ronsard, Albertine, Cuisse de Nynphe, Comte de Chambord, The Ancient Mariner, Rose des Peintres, Mme Hardy, The Pilgrin, Mme Isaac Pereira, The Alchymist, Charles de Mills, Reine des Violettes, Raubritter, Tuscany Superbe, New Dawn, Alberic Barbier, Rosier Rugosa Hansa, Fragant Old Yellow, Jacques Jacques Cartier, Blanc Duble de Coubert and Ghislaine de Féligonde. I have the place for 5 other and I accept suggestion.
Old World Roses are so hard to find in the US and getting them shipped in from other countries is next to impossible. It's very sad because I tend to prefer them and would love to grow them and pass them along.
I feel your pain Roderick - our choice of suppliers is even more limited in Canada. Then again, I heard from a gardener in Réunion (formerly called Île de Bourbon) and despite their important spot in the history of roses, they have little or no ability to order roses from anywhere! What a shame.
I have got Charles Austin- old English rose (it was bred in 1973 and the name has from David Austin's father) in my garden in Poland. It's my favourite DA rose, I love it's scent😀 And you cannot buy it in DA roses' shop. It's unbelievable. I would never do this to my grandfather😂😂🤣.
Your videos I so appreciate, and watch them eagerly. Thank you. I live in a NYC apt. with low to moderate direct sunlight, north facing windows, not on the top floor, maybe 1-3 hours daily. Miniature roses I have bought and tried to care for, and only once have I a bloom after the blooms they had when they were bought have passed. Any suggestions for city dwellers with house plants? How to better care for, encourage blossoms maybe even propagate these teeny beauties? Thank you!
Thanks Viola. The only thing I can really suggest is some supplemental light - the smaller LED panels are pretty efficient even at 100 to 150 watts, and you'd only have to run them a few hours a day to boost the vigor of light-loving plants like roses.
Thanks Jason. I have taken many photographs over the years of lovely roses I've seen on visits to gardens like Bodnant in North Wales. I religiously catch the label in the photo, come home, go online and completely fail to find them. Now I have an inkling as to why this keeps happening. I did once hear that after a certain amount of time black spot resistant varieties lose their resistance and hence this also drives the development of new varieties. I do have one question though. Our local garden centre is also a rose nursery and they frequently have the same variety of rose by name but in climber and shrub formats. In my head this can only happen by grafting so how do you know what you're going to get when you propagate by cutting, if especially like me you're not sure whether there's a graft point or not? You mention Radio Times by name. In the UK it is a magazine containing the TV listings for the week. When I was growing up it was basically BBC run and pretty much the only way to plan your Christmas telly watching marathon. I can only imagine they sponsored the rose and would have run an offer for their readers. I bet there are hundreds planted up and down the UK in the gardens of loyal viewers.
I bet you're right about Radio Times! Your question about climbing varieties: no, I think most climbing variations of shrub roses are actually sports. A stem would have mutated to exhibit a stronger climbing habit, and the person who discovered the mutation took cuttings. When it turned out to be stable (some sports are prone to revert back to the habit of the mother) they had a Cl. version of the rose.
Help Jason, Could you please do a video on how to propagate different old garden roses, which are the same, which are different. I need to propagate a rugosa and have one chance of getting cuttings...need to make it count...love your propagation videos!!
I have some of my hubby's grandmothers roses but don't know any of the names (they weren't tagged) so a lot of people don't want them but I love them anyway -- I've tried to identify them but so many roses are so similar that I don't know what they are
Hi Jason, What is the best way to label your plants? I have tried many different methods but they always break or get covered by leaves and raked up or have faded. Thanks.
We've gone with a local trophy engraving shop - they cut, engraved and drilled the plates to be screwed into either the container or a treated wooden post. They're UV resistant plastic, and so far have been holding up well (2 years)
This goes well beyond roses. We are in a crucial time for many cultivars of plants. It seems to me there is an effort to push out older tried and true varieties of plants for patented and Trademarked (forever patents) ones. Years ago I heard Michael Dirr (well known as a plant breeder) say how he didn't think this plant or that plant was any better and in some cases wasn't as good as some of the old time cultivars.
So true. I hear the same thing from other specialist growers - and the incentives within the industry are: fast, easy, compact, novel, and patented so they can earn royalties and exclude competition.
So, I have a question. I have only recently become serious about learning the specifics about roses whereas, beforehand, I just enjoyed them and rooted stuff I was given or that I had in the back paying no mind. What I have found now is that I have various types of roses I know nothing about- and potentially have hybridized them as well. Many of my roses I rooted together and just stuck in pots I had available so they hung out with each other for years sometimes. How would I know if I have a new rose breed or even the breeds I currently have?
I think what would be useful is a list of varieties people have available, so if someone's interested in a certain old rose they could reach out and get a cutting. How many varieties do you have at the farm?
About 300 now. I'm working this winter on have the website capable of displaying my stock roses for reference. In the meantime, the best resource like that is something like Helpmefind - for each rose they have a cross-referenced list of known suppliers and collections.
I have Stanwell Perpetual in my garden. I’ve had trouble propagating it. What is he best method? So far I’ve tried semi hardwood most propagation. Thanks!
I can't believe I missed this video until now. Really good information, thank you as always interesting and comprehensive. I am curious where on your farm is this scene set? That white screening on fence behind you looks unfamiliar to me and I can't place the shed either.
I'm a newbie to roses, but I got hooked FAST - I've been curious about older rose varieties, and why they may be in danger. Thank you for explaining! It's also fascinating to me how gardening scratches a very unique, somewhat 'nerdy' itch for me - I'm invigorated by the idea of collecting rose plants that may be in danger, much the way I was as a child with Pokemon cards! Gotta collect them all - and especially the rare ones. :)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Are you located in Canada? I can wait and hope I can purchase your roses in the future. Thank you for sharing all the knowledge.
I think l have old rose... Its so big bush, but The flowers so small and meny, looks like wild rose, but its not wild rose, so soft pink color, l may be wrong but its still Pretty rose 🙂
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I’ve watch it from open living room door & from my bedroom for 4-5 hrs. this afternoon.. i love rain.. & smell of the wet garden fence..it reminds me of when i used to watch the rings the droplets make in the puddle from our house in East Africa as a kid
There are a couple of other regular viewers in the Philippines, but I understand that it's not too easy to keep them growing well in your climate. The downside of living in a tropical paradise I suppose
I work in the horticulture industry in Ontario. Roses basically sell themselves, though; a number of people have turned away from growing roses because a better part of this province is plagued with Japanese and rose chafer beetles, unfortunately. Without daily routine maintenance, a rose can be decimated entirely. I hear that Japanese beetles have reached the mainland of British Columbia. You may wish to investigate that. Commercial growers in Ontario resort to spraying neem oil to control beetle populations.
Thanks - Japanese Beetle has done so much damage in the east, and top that off with rose rosette, and roses have had a tough time recently. The update on JB in Vancouver is that the trapping and monitoring of the quarantine zone has been successful (at least this time) so local rose gardeners can breathe a shallow sigh of relief.
That's good news! Not sure what the Ontario government is doing because it seems as if no amount of trapping could eradicate them in eastern Canada at this point. They're out of control and everywhere in droves; golf courses are infested with them. A rose, they can smell a mile away; the top pick on their menu. Even when roses are out of bloom, they munch on their foliage, including rugosas. Rose foliage is aromatic and nutritious to a Japanese beetle. One must commit to battle if you really love and insist on growing roses. Accept living with a number of holes in your treasures. 🌹🌱
Hi Jason. I have a quick question for you. I absolutely love the look of the Mme. Hardy and Mme. Plantier roses, so much so, I would look past the fact they bloom only once a year. My problem is I have a small, suburban yard here in the US (Kansas City area). Can you recommend something that would be similar? I love the dark pink buds and the white rose with the green button. I also want a pleasant and strong fragrance. I would also like to have something that is an older garden rose. I have plenty of the newer varieties and very much want to focus on historic roses now. Could you recommend something? Thank you for your thoughts!! Karen Neal
Some of those older roses can be real space hogs, can't they. Madame Hardy, Plantier and Armide have pretty similar heights overall I think. I've seen Madam Zoetmans rose listed as a bit smaller but I'm not sure about its availability.
Not an hour later I see Madam Zoetmans listed on Palatine for preorder. I don't know if a 4 ft shrub will be okay for you, but I know the others are a bit more space-demanding.
Jason, do you have any idea of where I might find 'Robert le Diable' in the States? I'm just getting started collecting roses that need to be preserved. I hope you can help me. Thanks! Mark
I have used Heritage Roses and they are fantastic. Since you are in Minnesota, search on their species for cold climates. Viking Queen is a superlative rose. Good luck!
Eh Jason, this is fantastic episode…. How can I reach you offline ( not in comments) I want to look at some purchases…. I think you have a website? Maybe you could talk about that resource more ….
Robert le Diable is quite a difficult and confusing case: there are 5-6 different roses under that name on the market, none of them matching the earliest descriptions of this rose a 100 percent. in historic literature, there appear two Robert le Diables, one a Gallica and one a Centifolia and on the other hand, identical roses to those sold as Robert le Diable are on the market under the names Raphael and Nouveau Intelligible... but despite of these identity problems the rose is having it is a beautiful rose, no doubt, and definitely worth having. a quick google search I just did showed that Robert Le Diable seems not to be very hard to get here in the EU.
Thanks Peter. Totally. I have 2 different version of 'Alfred Colomb' in my garden, but I'm pretty sure that neither one is the original. A little late for some of these varieties, but that's why maintaining identity is so important - so we can be talking about the same roses. I was always under the impression that the UK and Europe had better collections and availability of old garden roses - probably not true in all cases I suppose. I always envy the mail order suppliers in the US vs. Canada.
I am putting together a collection of plants for zone 3 and lower, preferabbly with an edible component. Any recommendations of a cold hardy, attractive rose that produces good hips?
Hi Jason. Its me again lol. After hurricane Ida my internet is down more than its up. I am planning my flower garden for next month and i really want a climbing rose. With a very strong traditional rose scent. I live in south louisiana. Can you recommend one? Like i said the internet is down most of the time and i just get frustrated between waiting for it to either load the page or even just connect.
Is there any chance that you know of anyone in the US who has THE Ross Rambler? I spoke to the people at the farm where it was discovered, but they aren't sure if the original plant is still there, and I can't find anyone who has the real deal.
Interesting. This might be one of those rare occasions where Canadian gardeners have the advantage - I see it's still listed in the Brooks rose garden as well as the Montreal Botanical Gardens.
How do I buy roses from you? Do you have a website? I read the comments below. You should share old roses with regan nursery. The have the most “lost” varieties. Maybe this way we can have access to your roses in the U.S. Alternatively, do you sell seeds?
If you're buying from the US, there are some good nurseries there to help: Rogue Valley, Heirloom, High Country, Angel Gardens by mail order, and others locally. Seeds aren't such a good option because they'll be genetically different than the parent plants.
I was just thinking about them the other day when I couldn’t find a rose that used to be offered on the David Austin website. Does your store ship to the US?
I make a point to mix in heirloom varieties in my garden. I love the idea of having plants my grandmothers loved and cared for in their garden.
I like to grow heirloom varieties in my country garden as well. Just love that mixed cottage feel.
Jason, you've encouraged me to reach out to some older friends who have roses and ask if I can help them in their gardens with various tasks that become too much when you're older, and they can help me out with cuttings! Thanks for all you do with your helpful and encouraging videos.
What a nice arrangement! Works for everyone.
I have three roses that were my great-grandmother and have propagated them many times. And they are so hardy, they will survive anything. And many other roses propagated from roses from 1900-1950. I love them and they are beautiful additions to my garden.
Thanks so much for this and for your thoughts on the importance of individual action. I am the steward of the old house my parents bought in 1958. Back then the Victorian gardens survived, and the glory of these were the climbing or rambling roses. They covered the rustic cedar fences and arbors with bloom in June and people gasped at the spectacle. After 35 years as a rental, not a thing survived when I returned in 2002. A neighbor had dug and saved a piece of one pink climber, which had struggled to live in her garden, and she gifted it to me on my return. Once home, that rose took off in the rich old soil and I’ve planted pieces of it around the garden. It is the glory of this place again and covers fences, clambers over the old privy shed and stone well, and brings back the days when visitors stopped in wonder at this little bit of Eden. I’ve not been able to identify this beauty yet, but know that one of the lost roses was “Tausenshoen,” a 1906 climber. It is on the list to add to a new fence once built.
Old roses with a single bloom may put off some gardeners, but they give such abundance and tend to be exceptionally hardy. My New England garden takes beating winter winds and the full sun of summer, and this dainty looking beauty sloughs it all off. I can have some more modern, repeat bloomers, but this that I’ve named the “Pinelock” rose, after the house, remains the backbone of the garden.
Thanks Doug. Wonderful to hear about your restoration efforts. I do understand why gardeners who have limited space will often prefer strong repeat bloomers, but on a larger property I always encourage friends to try at least one old rambler or other old garden rose. They flow with the seasons, of course, and they're not always in bloom - but often become a garden favorite for (relatively) easy care and massive show!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Thank you for your reply, Jason. I completely agree. I’d love roses in bloom all season, but the spectacle of an old rambler is so worth giving room if one has it. I am now in search of one that can take shade and bitter winds, in hopes it could cloak the steep bank down to the cove. I prefer white if possible, but will take what I can get. I’ve tried “Enigma” - an old Chinese rose - which is intensely fragrant, and manages to survive, but doesn’t really thrive there.
Fascinating and inspiring, thanks for another educational video on old/rarer roses. I wholeheartedly agree with starting change as an individual- after all the only control we have is over ourselves. (As a Scottish transplant to the USA, I so appreciate the use of Scots instead of Scotch!)
My Ma was from Scotland and used the term Scotch.She said only toffs used the term Scottish.😁🇨🇦
Jason your videos always inspire me! We are moving from U.K. to Bulgaria next year, not far from Rose Valley 🌹 I’ll have plenty of land, and after seeing your other videos I thought what better than to establish a collection of old roses!? Maybe start a nursery? Or just keep a collection for its own sake.
I agree it’s so important to preserve old non-commercial varieties, I’ve kept heritage/rare breed livestock over the years so why not plants now? I love the idea of trading, I’ll have to keep it within EU I guess but what better way to preserve them!
Wow Helen, right to the heart of traditional Damask perfume country! That would be an excellent spot for a rose collection of any sort.
Love love love Stanwell!!! Unfortunately I have had many die on me for various reasons. I will continue to purchase him because it is truly a worthy rose. It's wonderful you are bringing attention to preserve so many of these roses.
Thanks Maria! I haven't been able to kill mine ... yet
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm So happy yours is alive; ensures it stays in circulation. 🙂
Very good! I'm trying to do this here in Brazil, together with a group of friends. We are thinking of founding a society of rose lovers. We still don't have one in Brazil. Thank you very much!
Thanks Octávio - that's a worthwhile goal, and I whish you success!
Jason, love and appreciate your channel. Your knowledge and information is making and impact in the rose community. Thank you!
Thanks for another great video about preserving roses! I follow the California groups that are working so hard to preserve roses - they are setting an amazing example of what the rest of us need to do, but they have also endured their difficult setbacks (such as the Sacramento Cemetery situation). I wish more of the rose societies would dedicate resources towards similar projects - perhaps videos like yours will help inspire that to happen. It was years before I discovered that the little town I live in has a fascinating history of rose breeding/growing prior to 1965. It's shocking to me how all of that disappeared so completely and is now nothing more than a couple of photographs, a few articles in newspaper archives, a few living examples in public gardens, and an occasional plant in an out-of-state rare rose auction.
Thanks - you're fortunate to be in such an important area for roses (and a great growing climate). I know a lot of production has moved east, but the rose societies and gardens in your area are second to none!
You are such a motivational person with such a big heart! And I think it's because your love for roses (and all other plants, of course)! And I want to thank you again and wish you success in everything you do! As the new year arrives, may you and all your loved ones be blessed and may you all be healthy, safe and happy! ❤ Greetings from Romania and thanks again with gratitude for your channel, I am learning so much!
Thanks so much for the encouragement and support Gina
Watching your videos is trouble! I can't stop thinking about the beautiful roses you show even though I donot have space for them.. Thank you for sharing such beauty and knowledge!
Thanks Jason. Your love of roses & the preservation is admirable
Jason in about 2 weeks I'm going to collect from a fomous rose nursery near Padua, Italy, 2 Madam Isaac Pereire...I'm so thrilled 💜...let's hope I don't kill them 🤗
Wonderful! I'll cross my fingers for you
I am based in the EU but if I could buy my roses from you Jason, I would have definitely done it! I am growing Robert le diable and Roseraie de L'hay!
I LOVE heritage roses.
Yes! Stanwell Perpetual. I got mine from Pickering in their last year, and it's amazing. Mine is in front of a paperback maple and it stops traffic. People ask about it. I explain that it is the only reblooming rose of its type and tell them the story of its discovery in 1838.
It is available in a few places. I just wish I had room for more of them.
I know Rick from Calgary...he is a wonderful man and he collected a lot of roses when he went to CA ( John's place) a few years ago . His place is beautiful. You have to check his beautiful garden . I have seen all his pics when he shared with Rose Forum on Houzz.
Hats off to Rick !! ❤️❤️
Yes, the beauty is propagating old roses. Sharing is beyond words that we can all enjoy the beauty of their existence.
Thanks Jin!
This is a great topic and important. Love the use of tyres in your field.
Thank you so much for your videos. You have been such a tremendous help for me in my garden. I just started „rose“ gardening 3 seasons ago, and in the beginning I hated the roses already in my garden. Especially in early spring & late fall. Since then I have added 20+ roses. Also, nochmals herzlichen Dank & eine wunderschöne Woche! Geraldine
Thanks so much Geraldine for the encouragement and support! It means a lot to us.
I just asked to join your Canadian rose exchange! I’m not in Canada now but I grew up there and
I still have family and friends there 💗 thank you for such great information!
I have several old roses, apothecary rose, damask, bourbon, Portland centifolia old cabbage roses. 💗
Sounds like a really nice collection!
A fine case in point: My now 25 year quest to try and find someone who still grows the Helen Cushing Rose. As a huge classic horror fan and rose lover/grower my entire life I've always wanted to grow this rose. It was cultivated by the Wheatcroft family in 1985 and brought to market in the UK in 86'. I haven't been able to find ANYONE stateside who ever had the flower and I can't wander around the UK to ask the people what they have growing in the garden (that would be nice though, sigh...) It is my absolute Holy Grail rose find, and even though I'm 40 now I still have my fingers crossed. I've recently asked the NoCutts Company, who bought the Wheatcroft brand and licenses after the Wheatcrofts retired, if they still cultivate it at all. Haven't heard back yet, and I fear even they don't know, but I'll never give up.
I’m also going to go to an old cemetery in downtown Atlanta Georgia and see what roses they have there 😊
Fantastic!
Thanks for another great video Jason. I would love to purchase one (or 3) of the ‘Robert le Diable’ rose whenever you can ship to central Virginia.
I appreciate your enthusiasm in preserving old roses. i have been successful in propagating Hydrangea ‘Nikko blue’, because i feel that, while they are available commercially, they appear to be disappearing from local Nuseeies.
Es una idea fantástica, yo he empezado a hacer esquejes correctamente, gracias a tus videos. La mayoría termino regalándolos, siempre a personas que saben de la dificultad que supone tener éxito con las plantas. Son rosas de los jardines que tienen algunos vecinos, no sabia que había tanta variedad. Tampoco sabia que algunas variedades estaban con patente. Algunos rosales me encantan y he intentado hacer esquejes, pero parece que no lo hago bien, o que son difíciles de enraizar.
En fin no me canso de aprender, y de sorprender.
En la zona donde vivo hay heladas bastante frecuentes, y las rosas parece aguantar muy bien este clima. Un saludo desde el interior de Alicante, España.
Es maravilloso escuchar eso. ¡Gracias por compartir tu éxito!
Okay, I'm inspired!
Now I just have to find room for more roses (looking enviously at your acres of lush green turf).
Yeah, I'd love to covert all that lawn to garden someday - but baby steps!
This is so wonderful. I love learning about these lesser known varieties, and how to keep the, around. Thanks!
My pleasure Annie. Thanks for watching!
My mom had many roses when I was growing up, then I grew up and bought my house, and now I have 28 rose plants, most were already there when I bought, but I had to add a couple, and i live on a normal town house type lot
I salvaged a Grootendorst Red from an abandoned farm back in the “bush”. I had watched it for years as it got smaller and smaller… I finally brought it home, and now it pushes up canes 5’ tall with many bouquets of it’s scarlet chrysanthemum-like flowers, but the thorns are something else. I believe this was the first hybridized rose???
Thanks Garth. I think the original Grootendorst rose was around 1918, so not the first of the hybrids though.
Many gardeners (small businesses or retired ones in particular) will gladly do rose propagation for you, be it by grafting material you bring them or by getting your cuttings to root. I haven´t done so with roses, yet, but with grafting material of old varieties of apples and pears. Look around in your area, you will find someone!
That's a great way to go - very local!
I'm so jealous. I've been looking for radio times.
I get more & more tempted as you mentioned in another video.. madam plantier sidonie.. now Robert le diable.. but with 26 coming.. i’m holding back as pots & compost have gathered for them too.. roll on early November.. can’t wait.. i hope i don’t pass out when they arrive as i’m the only one planting them
Hi. In England with have shops similar to the dollar stores and shortly they sell bare rooted roses for less than a couple of pounds. Some are named they are grown in Holland. They are cheap and cheerful some flower well some don't but it's a start for growing roses that doesn't cost too much
Brilliant video as always mate. Thanks 👍
Thanks Joe - what a deal on those roses. We sometimes see "body bag" bare root roses here for around $10 CAD, and I thought that was pretty inexpensive, but still a lot more than what you're talking about.
This is not just a Rose problem. There are thousands of varieties of corn from the middle ages that have been whittled down to a few cultivars that are commercially viable on as large scale. Those in turn are crossbred extensively to create super hybrids and the older varieties just cease to exist. I imagine it is the same with most agricultural crops.
Absolutely right - and my admiration goes out to those farmers and gardeners who keep uncommon strains of seed crops around for future generations. Livestock too, for that matter.
I would love to have one of the Robert Le Diable ! Gorgeous!
Thank you for all your information on here! I am just learning about roses (my husband and I bought land that has what may be an autumn damask that is very happy; because of cold climate it does not bloom twice here). I don't have money to be buying any right now, but am really hoping someday to be able to incorporate more (usually old garden) roses into my garden (I really like roses for how they complement a garden, not really much for other purposes). I'm especially interested in ones that would be hardy (zone 4) since I know it can be a lot of work, and I also want to grow and learn to grow other things (like food plants) that will take some learning to do.
My grandma had a purple 🟣 rose.
Beautiful, land scapper killed it.
Oh, that's tough to hear!
Jason, I wish you lived here in central NY. I would love to be your apprentice and learn and grow all that you do. Although you can't get roses to me you have inspired me to find them elsewhere. As I've said before I added about 60 in 2021 but hope to get many more next year.
Thanks Dennis. BTW, have you ever been out to see my friend Leon at Der Rosenmeister nursery in Ithaca? Or is that still pretty far from you?
Love it!
Jason I’ve now got 32 roses in big pots with vendors labels flying on them like flags to remind me of what’s what i have Omar qayyam as well extremely thorny .. i love the shape of star like flowers.. can’t wait .. it’s sprouting away
Very Inspiring, Thank you!
Jason you need to be propagated your knowledge is excellent your passion for roses 🌹 is infectious 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much!
I have been looking for Common Moss for many years . I found it listed at Rogue Valley Roses but it was always sold out. I tried to get on a waitlist but they would never answer my emails. Finally this year I got one. I also bought Duc de Fitzjames, Siren's Keep , Cabbage Rose and Henri Martin. I live in Austin and the heat wipes out my old roses every few years. I really enjoy your channel and share it with my friends. I watch the videos over and over again. Does anyone have any experience with these roses that can help them be a success? i also just bought a new rose Fragrant Blush from Antique Rose Emporium that they claim has lots of petals, is fragrant and can handle 115F. Has anyone grown it?
I wish I have a garden so I can have all rose that I can get :)
Thanks for this video!
I have shared my roses to friends and family over the years. Like old Gloria La France a pink mauve climber, Gloria d’ Jion apricot Noisette, Sir Clough a hot pink English climbing rose.
Wonderful to hear! And I'd love to run into those varieties up here in Canada.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I can always get some cuttings to you!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I am in Nanaimo BC.
Thanks. I didn't get out to the island this year for long, but it'd be great to collect some cuttings next time I'm out that way
Hello Jason!
I have many roses book like Graham Thomas, Peter Beales, David Austin and many others.
I have two question that come round and round in my mind about roses.
I am near 70s and I am a cancer survivor.
I bear in mind concerning to the future of my garden.
The once flowering roses ( old european roses like gallicas, albas, damasks, centifolia/moss, or even modern breeding roses like alchymist ) are great survivor general speaking, i think because after flowering period time they can concentrate on photosyntesis and storage their energies in roots and branches.
The repeating old roses like china or tea are great survivor in milder climates that don’t freeze in winter time.
Other roses like rugosas roses are near species and are reliable in many conditions.
What do you think about more “modern” roses?
The floribundas or hybrid tea of today are more robust, vigorous forming a more branching shrub than the varieties of 70/80/90.
If we let them grow, they can develop in very big shrubs!
Do you think that a own roots of today ( austin, kordes, meilland and so on ) or a modern repeating shrub ( like hybrid musk, pemberton or lens varieties ) can live ( or survive ) for century in neglected conditions ( once well etablished of course ) exactly like old roses?
Do you think that these roses are worthing of preservation, like old roses?
I think that the roses of today can be the “old roses of tomorrow”.
I am in a “to be or not to be” situation😁
Thank you very much😘
Your videos are interesting and beautiful!
Thank you for sharing your passion!🫶
Ohh, is that your view behind you during your work? I envy you.
I have a beautifull yellow fragrance Postillion climber and a beautifull red silk Amadeus climber in my post stamp little patio. My way to have a nice view in the middle of the concrete city. Greetings from Tilburg, the Netherlands. 🌹
Nothing compares. Learned recently that rose bushes bearing only long stem single roses didn't exist until someone crossed a tea rose with a hybrid perpetual rose somewhere in France sometime in the 1,800s. Or something. La France. Who knew.
The first hybrid tea for sure. Some of the hybrid perpetuals and bourbons also were bred for exhibition-style stems too, but not with the distinctively high-centered buds of the modern HT. 1867 was a big year for roses (and incidentally, for Canada too!)
A nice sentiment, Jason.
I now live in a lovely retirement establishment here in Melbourne, Australia dating back to the 1960's. Along with many native trees, we have lots of spectacular roses which I would like to identify and maybe propagate. Where to start..?
I wish I had a more clear cut answer to identifying unknown varieties - I'll make a video on this sometime soon, but honestly with the number of roses ever released, it's a matter of guessing close, and then trying to confirm by close comparison. Not easy.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Yep. Guess I'll just have to use my handy "Lens" friend for the ID work and you brilliant instructive videos. 😉
I have over 300 varieties of old garden roses.
Where? I’m going to rustle some roses at 2 am 😜
@@elsagrace3893
Florida. 😄
Do you sell cuttings? Do you have an inventory of what you have?
I am so inspired. I have 4 roses in my garden here in Denmark that are probably from around 1948. I don't know the names and as they are not in bloom, I am not sure if the apps will be able to identify them. Have you had success with the apps identifying roses? I am determined to propagate them after watching this video.
Hi Katrin - no success at all with the apps. It's more likely that someone who's been involved with the rose societies or clubs locally will have a good idea of what was common in gardens of the era.
This is very cool!
Thanks Amy
I planted a Rose 🌹 called Scarlet ♥️ Knight and it was absolutely beautiful but alas I can no longer find it. Then I have looked and looked for another called Sterling Silver a beautiful Lavender highly fragrant Rose 🌹.
So I send out a "Help me Out".
I'm a great lover of Old Fashioned Rose's 🌹.
Sincerely Yours 🤠 Mr Severance,
"The Cake 😋 🍰🎂 🥳🎉 🎈 Man",
"World 🌎🌍 Cruiser"&"Succulent Collector", and "Teacup's & Saucer's Set's and Teapot 🫖 Collector".
I'm a great Lover of Own Root Roses 🌹
My Mom used to say the same thing. She was born in Scotland.
Lol. About the roses or the whiskey?
I very love The old roses and I have some in my smal garden: Pierre de Ronsard, Albertine, Cuisse de Nynphe, Comte de Chambord, The Ancient Mariner, Rose des Peintres, Mme Hardy, The Pilgrin, Mme Isaac Pereira, The Alchymist, Charles de Mills, Reine des Violettes, Raubritter, Tuscany Superbe, New Dawn, Alberic Barbier, Rosier Rugosa Hansa, Fragant Old Yellow, Jacques Jacques Cartier, Blanc Duble de Coubert and Ghislaine de Féligonde.
I have the place for 5 other and I accept suggestion.
Old World Roses are so hard to find in the US and getting them shipped in from other countries is next to impossible. It's very sad because I tend to prefer them and would love to grow them and pass them along.
I feel your pain Roderick - our choice of suppliers is even more limited in Canada. Then again, I heard from a gardener in Réunion (formerly called Île de Bourbon) and despite their important spot in the history of roses, they have little or no ability to order roses from anywhere! What a shame.
In Search of Lost Roses by Thomas Christopher really inspired me. Maybe you’ll mention it in this video, I haven’t finished yet.
Thanks. I haven't seen that book, but I'll try to find it.
Robert le Diable is so so so so omg beautiful rose.
I have got Charles Austin- old English rose (it was bred in 1973 and the name has from David Austin's father) in my garden in Poland. It's my favourite DA rose, I love it's scent😀 And you cannot buy it in DA roses' shop. It's unbelievable. I would never do this to my grandfather😂😂🤣.
Your videos I so appreciate, and watch them eagerly. Thank you. I live in a NYC apt. with low to moderate direct sunlight, north facing windows, not on the top floor, maybe 1-3 hours daily. Miniature roses I have bought and tried to care for, and only once have I a bloom after the blooms they had when they were bought have passed. Any suggestions for city dwellers with house plants? How to better care for, encourage blossoms maybe even propagate these teeny beauties? Thank you!
Thanks Viola. The only thing I can really suggest is some supplemental light - the smaller LED panels are pretty efficient even at 100 to 150 watts, and you'd only have to run them a few hours a day to boost the vigor of light-loving plants like roses.
Thanks Jason. I have taken many photographs over the years of lovely roses I've seen on visits to gardens like Bodnant in North Wales. I religiously catch the label in the photo, come home, go online and completely fail to find them. Now I have an inkling as to why this keeps happening. I did once hear that after a certain amount of time black spot resistant varieties lose their resistance and hence this also drives the development of new varieties.
I do have one question though. Our local garden centre is also a rose nursery and they frequently have the same variety of rose by name but in climber and shrub formats. In my head this can only happen by grafting so how do you know what you're going to get when you propagate by cutting, if especially like me you're not sure whether there's a graft point or not?
You mention Radio Times by name. In the UK it is a magazine containing the TV listings for the week. When I was growing up it was basically BBC run and pretty much the only way to plan your Christmas telly watching marathon. I can only imagine they sponsored the rose and would have run an offer for their readers. I bet there are hundreds planted up and down the UK in the gardens of loyal viewers.
I bet you're right about Radio Times! Your question about climbing varieties: no, I think most climbing variations of shrub roses are actually sports. A stem would have mutated to exhibit a stronger climbing habit, and the person who discovered the mutation took cuttings. When it turned out to be stable (some sports are prone to revert back to the habit of the mother) they had a Cl. version of the rose.
Very nice & excellent topic sir👍
Thanks Ankita
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Your most welcome sir, Ankita is my elder sister....Alok ☺️
Help Jason, Could you please do a video on how to propagate different old garden roses, which are the same, which are different. I need to propagate a rugosa and have one chance of getting cuttings...need to make it count...love your propagation videos!!
Thanks Anne. I'll add it to my list of topics.
I have some of my hubby's grandmothers roses but don't know any of the names (they weren't tagged) so a lot of people don't want them but I love them anyway -- I've tried to identify them but so many roses are so similar that I don't know what they are
Hi Jason, What is the best way to label your plants? I have tried many different methods but they always break or get covered by leaves and raked up or have faded. Thanks.
We've gone with a local trophy engraving shop - they cut, engraved and drilled the plates to be screwed into either the container or a treated wooden post. They're UV resistant plastic, and so far have been holding up well (2 years)
This goes well beyond roses.
We are in a crucial time for many cultivars of plants.
It seems to me there is an effort to push out older tried and true varieties of plants for patented and Trademarked (forever patents) ones.
Years ago I heard Michael Dirr (well known as a plant breeder) say how he didn't think this plant or that plant was any better and in some cases wasn't as good as some of the old time cultivars.
So true. I hear the same thing from other specialist growers - and the incentives within the industry are: fast, easy, compact, novel, and patented so they can earn royalties and exclude competition.
So, I have a question. I have only recently become serious about learning the specifics about roses whereas, beforehand, I just enjoyed them and rooted stuff I was given or that I had in the back paying no mind. What I have found now is that I have various types of roses I know nothing about- and potentially have hybridized them as well.
Many of my roses I rooted together and just stuck in pots I had available so they hung out with each other for years sometimes.
How would I know if I have a new rose breed or even the breeds I currently have?
It's not so easy to ID an unknown rose (unless its one with pretty distinctive features). I'll do a video on the topic shortly.
I think what would be useful is a list of varieties people have available, so if someone's interested in a certain old rose they could reach out and get a cutting.
How many varieties do you have at the farm?
About 300 now. I'm working this winter on have the website capable of displaying my stock roses for reference. In the meantime, the best resource like that is something like Helpmefind - for each rose they have a cross-referenced list of known suppliers and collections.
I do use it and know it has that feature.
I've dreamt of getting every one of the 19,000 plus verities of roses and build a major public Rose garden.
What an undertaking that would be!!
I have Stanwell Perpetual in my garden. I’ve had trouble propagating it. What is he best method? So far I’ve tried semi hardwood most propagation. Thanks!
It isn't the easiest from cuttings. I get a low rate from semi-hardwood, and it seems like a firmer (towards hardwood) might be a bit better.
Oh very interesting
I can't believe I missed this video until now. Really good information, thank you as always interesting and comprehensive. I am curious where on your farm is this scene set? That white screening on fence behind you looks unfamiliar to me and I can't place the shed either.
Thanks. I shot the first sections over by the circular rose garden at the back of the property.
I'm a newbie to roses, but I got hooked FAST - I've been curious about older rose varieties, and why they may be in danger. Thank you for explaining! It's also fascinating to me how gardening scratches a very unique, somewhat 'nerdy' itch for me - I'm invigorated by the idea of collecting rose plants that may be in danger, much the way I was as a child with Pokemon cards! Gotta collect them all - and especially the rare ones. :)
lol "I don't need government problems' also made me laugh :)
You'll need a bigger garden if you want to catch them all!
So true 🥺💗
I would like to purchase one of Robert Le Diable, please. It is beautiful!
Thanks for the interest - sorry we're only shipping within Canada this year
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Are you located in Canada? I can wait and hope I can purchase your roses in the future. Thank you for sharing all the knowledge.
Stanwell is in Essex South England and where rose of that name was made
I think l have old rose... Its so big bush, but The flowers so small and meny, looks like wild rose, but its not wild rose, so soft pink color, l may be wrong but its still Pretty rose 🙂
Hello Jason from “ far too much rainy “ London
Lol. I feel your pain - in the fall and winter we're on Seattle weather.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I’ve watch it from open living room door & from my bedroom for 4-5 hrs. this afternoon.. i love rain.. & smell of the wet garden fence..it reminds me of when i used to watch the rings the droplets make in the puddle from our house in East Africa as a kid
I'm in Alaska, so there's little point in me trying most roses. But I'd love to try Bobbie James, if you ever offer it.
Have you done a video on your stock field and how you got that going? It looks like each of your roses are within individual tires out there.
I've touched on it a couple of times, but not as a whole video. I do discuss some of the advantages here: ua-cam.com/video/LEnpRgdp9Ao/v-deo.html
I'd love to get some of these in Alabama USA zone 7b
Get the list of the collectible roses.. and people could exchange them so we could preserve them. I would so love to.. do it.
I actually love those roses, sadly i only see them here in your videos😞. I wonder if they can survive here in the Philippines
There are a couple of other regular viewers in the Philippines, but I understand that it's not too easy to keep them growing well in your climate. The downside of living in a tropical paradise I suppose
I work in the horticulture industry in Ontario. Roses basically sell themselves, though; a number of people have turned away from growing roses because a better part of this province is plagued with Japanese and rose chafer beetles, unfortunately. Without daily routine maintenance, a rose can be decimated entirely.
I hear that Japanese beetles have reached the mainland of British Columbia. You may wish to investigate that.
Commercial growers in Ontario resort to spraying neem oil to control beetle populations.
Thanks - Japanese Beetle has done so much damage in the east, and top that off with rose rosette, and roses have had a tough time recently. The update on JB in Vancouver is that the trapping and monitoring of the quarantine zone has been successful (at least this time) so local rose gardeners can breathe a shallow sigh of relief.
That's good news! Not sure what the Ontario government is doing because it seems as if no amount of trapping could eradicate them in eastern Canada at this point. They're out of control and everywhere in droves; golf courses are infested with them. A rose, they can smell a mile away; the top pick on their menu. Even when roses are out of bloom, they munch on their foliage, including rugosas.
Rose foliage is aromatic and nutritious to a Japanese beetle. One must commit to battle if you really love and insist on growing roses. Accept living with a number of holes in your treasures. 🌹🌱
Hi Jason. I have a quick question for you. I absolutely love the look of the Mme. Hardy and Mme. Plantier roses, so much so, I would look past the fact they bloom only once a year. My problem is I have a small, suburban yard here in the US (Kansas City area). Can you recommend something that would be similar? I love the dark pink buds and the white rose with the green button. I also want a pleasant and strong fragrance. I would also like to have something that is an older garden rose. I have plenty of the newer varieties and very much want to focus on historic roses now. Could you recommend something? Thank you for your thoughts!! Karen Neal
Some of those older roses can be real space hogs, can't they. Madame Hardy, Plantier and Armide have pretty similar heights overall I think. I've seen Madam Zoetmans rose listed as a bit smaller but I'm not sure about its availability.
Not an hour later I see Madam Zoetmans listed on Palatine for preorder. I don't know if a 4 ft shrub will be okay for you, but I know the others are a bit more space-demanding.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you! I'll take a look at Mme. Zoetmans.
Jason, do you have any idea of where I might find 'Robert le Diable' in the States? I'm just getting started collecting roses that need to be preserved. I hope you can help me. Thanks!
Mark
Thanks Mark. No, I don't stay current with the US suppliers - most I can't order from.
I wish you could ship to Minnesota. Since that's not an option, could you recommend a rose company in the US?
You have so many: Rogue Valley, Heirloom, High Country...
I have used Heritage Roses and they are fantastic. Since you are in Minnesota, search on their species for cold climates. Viking Queen is a superlative rose. Good luck!
Eh Jason, this is fantastic episode…. How can I reach you offline ( not in comments) I want to look at some purchases…. I think you have a website? Maybe you could talk about that resource more ….
Lisa monitors the email from our website at www.fraservalleyrosefarm.com
Robert le Diable is quite a difficult and confusing case: there are 5-6 different roses under that name on the market, none of them matching the earliest descriptions of this rose a 100 percent. in historic literature, there appear two Robert le Diables, one a Gallica and one a Centifolia and on the other hand, identical roses to those sold as Robert le Diable are on the market under the names Raphael and Nouveau Intelligible... but despite of these identity problems the rose is having it is a beautiful rose, no doubt, and definitely worth having.
a quick google search I just did showed that Robert Le Diable seems not to be very hard to get here in the EU.
Thanks Peter. Totally. I have 2 different version of 'Alfred Colomb' in my garden, but I'm pretty sure that neither one is the original. A little late for some of these varieties, but that's why maintaining identity is so important - so we can be talking about the same roses. I was always under the impression that the UK and Europe had better collections and availability of old garden roses - probably not true in all cases I suppose. I always envy the mail order suppliers in the US vs. Canada.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm what about doing a rose expedition to Europe one day? ;)
Yes!
I'm sold on Robert le Diable but unable to find a supplier! Any chance you send to the USA?
Sorry - we don't have anything planned for this year into the US.
I am putting together a collection of plants for zone 3 and lower, preferabbly with an edible component. Any recommendations of a cold hardy, attractive rose that produces good hips?
Plain old Rosa rugosa is pretty much unmatched for big edible hips, and is hardy down to zone 2.
new to hobby I have 5 rose bushes and they look like they have mildew on leave and stems how do I get rid of it?
Thanks Rob. I've done fairly well with sulfur against mildew: ua-cam.com/video/oQQbs9FIHwE/v-deo.html
Question. So if an unknown cemetery rose is found and there are no known records of it then is it usually renamed after the grave it was buried onto?
I'm not sure there's any such rule. How you name or designate and unknown rose (until such time as you have a tentative ID) is your own decision.
Hi Jason. Its me again lol. After hurricane Ida my internet is down more than its up. I am planning my flower garden for next month and i really want a climbing rose. With a very strong traditional rose scent. I live in south louisiana. Can you recommend one? Like i said the internet is down most of the time and i just get frustrated between waiting for it to either load the page or even just connect.
If you can find it, how about Papi Delbard? Or check out Souvenir du Docteur Jamain or Don Juan.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm oh sha thank you do much you are a blessing.
Is there any chance that you know of anyone in the US who has THE Ross Rambler? I spoke to the people at the farm where it was discovered, but they aren't sure if the original plant is still there, and I can't find anyone who has the real deal.
Interesting. This might be one of those rare occasions where Canadian gardeners have the advantage - I see it's still listed in the Brooks rose garden as well as the Montreal Botanical Gardens.
How do I buy roses from you? Do you have a website? I read the comments below. You should share old roses with regan nursery. The have the most “lost” varieties. Maybe this way we can have access to your roses in the U.S. Alternatively, do you sell seeds?
If you're buying from the US, there are some good nurseries there to help: Rogue Valley, Heirloom, High Country, Angel Gardens by mail order, and others locally. Seeds aren't such a good option because they'll be genetically different than the parent plants.
I have twice attempted to propagate roses at the end of grapevines to no avail 😢
I was just thinking about them the other day when I couldn’t find a rose that used to be offered on the David Austin website. Does your store ship to the US?
Thanks - no, we're mainly growing for the local market with some mail order shipping within Canada.
Im interested in preservig old roses in Whangarei, Northland, New Zealand.
Wonderful!