Fantastic is stupid and fun. I don't think most FNV players hate him. I mean, the NCR is willing to employ him in that role because he says he has a theoretical degree in physics. That's more on the NCR than him. Also, it's pretty funny he's like the only person in the game who just flip sides on a dime.
@@hermos3602 Both tbh, in lore (the same lore people will ignore to trash the Fallout tv show) the NCR is not doing good, with rampant corruption and a war and expansion into the Mojave no one wants. So the NCR in the Mojave are desperate. Not even mentioning the bs you have to do to get them even on par with the legion if you side with them.
@@aaronlaughter6471I find it funny that some people got mad about the show destroying Shady Sands when Chris Avellone wanted to destroy the NCR back in New Vegas, thus the reason you have an option to nuke the Long 15 in Lonesome Road.
@@hermos3602 And the Tunnelers, and the Sierra Madre mist, Big MT. Like every dlc besides Honest Hearts has a "Fuck Society" ending/implication. Hell, even Chris's self insert Ulysses even says the Tunnelers are going to escape no matter what and will destroy the Mojave.
Preston Garvey is a good man in a terrible situation. Not the terrible situation of being in a post-post-apocalyptic waste land… but the terrible situation of being in a Bethesda game, with all the Bethesda game ‘design’ choices that entails.
Swanick really isn't that bad. FNV is all about second chances. The Courier gets a second chance at life, Benny can have a second chance, the Boulder City Khans get a second chance, Boone gives himself a second chance, the Enclave get a second chance, the Jacobstown mutants are there for a second chance.... Almost every single character in New Vegas is a fuck-up that gets a "second chance". Swanick deserves one too..
Yes "hated" is misleading. This is not a list of evil. This is a dislike list of not evil people. Dermot and St. James are very evil person. These are antagonist for basiclly everyone in this fictional world and real world. They aren't stupid enough to realize the consequnces of their doin. They can reflect themself. They know it and attack you straight after getting exposed. you don't need to explain it them. Swanick and Fantastic are morons and can't reflect themself or never ever learned it before reaching thier 25th year of age (the brain is fully out grown). They are too dumb or don't have the mechanics worked out in thier childhood for that. Try to work or be a friend with a real very low IQ person? They can be easilly turned into very bad people from the outside perspective but in there perspective they are good as usuall (Fantastic). They can stalk you and never ever realized how bad this is. They feel in good intention or it is funny because this is how they feel and thats it. They can abuse other people because they feelin good (yes sx feels good:) ...... the Swanick moron The Longs lost thier child and they doin "approach this problem till the lost is redone" like everybody is doin after a relationship is over (lost, divorce, break up, etc). BUT they stay the entire game with only 1 approach way to solve it. Marcy is doin the only the attack approach (fight it away, force the redone, etc) and the dude doin the devot way (begging, make a deal at his cost, etc). They never change! Force it to be redone doesn't work, crying, begging, make a deal, change yourself (Im the reason), change the other person (not me the reason), ... After all these approaches the brain finally learn this road together ends here and never go further! Parker Quin is selfish af and you can hear that he is capable of knowing what he is doin and so arrogant to say it quit enough so he could response with "I didn't say that and I was about something very diffrent topic" or so. The 200years old childs are terrible done (for my taste but thats my complaining over the top problem in this case) but atleast they are doin thier homework. Falling on thier noses to learn how to walk right. I liked them all in thier intented way.
Thank you for not doing my babe Preston too awful bad. He's too good and kind to be cursed to a life of quest-giving, so I just take the initiative and go recruit settlements and listen to Radio Freedom to give the man some respite
In my 3rd playthrough of F4 Marcy died in a super mutant attack! Everybody was super bummed in the settlement but I was soooo happy. Like literal real life joy 😊
I appreciate you saying Jet is a drug that Myron "claimed" to have created, instead of outright saying it's his creation. People always try to make that claim when debating the lore of Jet, and I just sit there thinking "Well, you ever think that guy was just, y'know, lying to you?"
I was watching my friend play New Vegas for the first time and I told him to stop right before he got to Nipton. I then recited Oliver’s entire lottery speech. My friend was stunned.
What? myron's clearly the best and most heroic of fallout companions. He's just a wholesome, humble genius. He's more wholesome than Curie 🙏 Jet's the BIGGEST BLESSING the wasteland has ever received since the atomic bombs and the cannibals
My mosy hated characters are as follows 1. First Citizen (fallout 2) 2. Myron (Fallout 2) 3. The whole Bishop Family (fallout 2) 4. Madison Li (fallout 3 & 4) 5. Knight Rys (Fallout 4) I never played new vegas yet and I don't remember much of the 1st fallout game.
I alwaysss send Marcy away to her own settlement with no other settlers ASAP. Sometimes I'll send her husband with her too, because he's super emo, but usually I feel bad to leave him alone with her.
Might be a hot take but I never really minded Oliver Swanick, I found him kind of funny and a hilarious contrast to the death and suffering further into Nipton, way better comedy than some of the wild wasteland easter eggs that are just movie references "HEY GUYS LOOK! MONTY PYTHON!" I'm willing to cut Sticky a little slack since you can convince him with a speech check to quit talking so much, I found him rather useful to be an extra carry mule at times when I would ambush Outcast patrols and needed an extra set of hands to carry the power armor and rocket launchers.
The reason people dislike Oliver Swanick is probably because it's a scripted event that's really hard to avoid. At least, that's my reason for not liking him. Same with Old Ben in front of the gate to the Strip in Freeside. Fantastic is great though, he's just going with the flow and doing his best with the hand he was dealt all relying on one lucky speech check. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he had maxxed out luck.
I feel like there are a lot more hateable characters in FNV besides the ones listed. For me personally, Saint James and Marmot, Deputy Beagle, and Caleb McCaffery (Bounty hunter dude who steals from the Garret Twins),. The first ones just engage in despicable acts. The second speaks like a full time forum user and complains about every decision you make regardless of contributing to the town's welfare. The third being a jerk and condescending no matter what dialogue option you pick with him.
I actually like Preston. I shot Swanick immediately after asking him if he's a Powder Ganger. I shoot Powder Gangers on sight. I then proceeded to clear Nipton of all undesirables. No mercy for the Legion... now to start a playthrough siding with them. 😀
Parker quinn just made me loathe emil more than i already did. Always raise an eyebrow when i hear people complain about self inserts like ullyses, but not the mf whose decided his self insert should be bringing back iou-s in the post apocalypse.
Paul is the worst one for me, the man is a weasel, he can't get his wife himself so he relies on you to do it then when cooke goes missing he points the finger at you. I'm just sorry you can't really punish him the way he deserves
So much missed potential to not have Riko from Hannah Montana in fallout show play Myron & Johnny peperton as fantastic horrible horrible acting choices we just don’t talk about anything past new Vegas for this series thanks Todd
This is the ineptitude of Bethesda's writting team, just look at the disrespect they show the Dragonborn. Then again, I guess it's to be expected when you hire writers with teenage mentality and zero life experience.
Ulysses is easily the worst character in the entire franchise to me. Keywords "To me". I hate that pseudo intellectual so much. I kill him in every playthrough. I never talk hik down.
I don't fault Marcy's attitude, given what she's been through. She blames others for failing her family, while Jun blames himself. She doesn't want to get close to or put trust in the General because that trust has been betrayed.
Disagree. Firstly new vegas has plenty with swanick, Holmes and kowalski. Secondly the annoying characters in 4 except for Preston are explicitly written to be disliked and at that they excel, thus making those characters well written. The exception to this rule is Preston since we are supposed to like him
Idk when I read "the most hated" I expected Cook Cook or someone like him, not Fantastic 💀
Shh. You feel that? That's the winds of change, baby, and Fantastic's riding them with his magic angel wings.
Cook Cook is just a named thug. Can't really be remembered.
@@GutvaldCook Cook is hated by female NCR soldiers for what he did to them
Huh, did you even play the game? Talk to Pretty Sarah and Corporal Betsy @@Gutvald
Fantastic is stupid and fun. I don't think most FNV players hate him. I mean, the NCR is willing to employ him in that role because he says he has a theoretical degree in physics. That's more on the NCR than him. Also, it's pretty funny he's like the only person in the game who just flip sides on a dime.
Fantastic is the best. His finessin his way into the job is funny
Youre wrong, the bark scorpions kill him cause they want that winning ticket.
Looting winning ticket should make them essential
Those darn nasty scorpions, they should get their own damn ticket and leave Oliver alone!
Nah, I can’t hate Fantastic. Got to respect the hustle.
He's a douche but he knows how to survive. Bet everyone knows at least one Fantastic IRL
@@SalamiSimon666The NCR are either bigger idiots than Fantastic or too desperate to even hire him.
@@hermos3602 Both tbh, in lore (the same lore people will ignore to trash the Fallout tv show) the NCR is not doing good, with rampant corruption and a war and expansion into the Mojave no one wants. So the NCR in the Mojave are desperate. Not even mentioning the bs you have to do to get them even on par with the legion if you side with them.
@@aaronlaughter6471I find it funny that some people got mad about the show destroying Shady Sands when Chris Avellone wanted to destroy the NCR back in New Vegas, thus the reason you have an option to nuke the Long 15 in Lonesome Road.
@@hermos3602 And the Tunnelers, and the Sierra Madre mist, Big MT. Like every dlc besides Honest Hearts has a "Fuck Society" ending/implication.
Hell, even Chris's self insert Ulysses even says the Tunnelers are going to escape no matter what and will destroy the Mojave.
Preston Garvey is a good man in a terrible situation. Not the terrible situation of being in a post-post-apocalyptic waste land… but the terrible situation of being in a Bethesda game, with all the Bethesda game ‘design’ choices that entails.
His VA is awful too. Embarrassing choice for like the first major character you meet in the game
Swanick really isn't that bad. FNV is all about second chances. The Courier gets a second chance at life, Benny can have a second chance, the Boulder City Khans get a second chance, Boone gives himself a second chance, the Enclave get a second chance, the Jacobstown mutants are there for a second chance.... Almost every single character in New Vegas is a fuck-up that gets a "second chance".
Swanick deserves one too..
Surprisingly deep. Respect
Joshua too
He can Rot in hell cuz I hunt him for sport every single time.
Strangely poetic
which is also why genociding the white legs is a bad ending since it means that Joshua rejects the second chance god gave him.
I usually send marcy to that settlement at the very bottom of the map. The one that spawns a mirelurk queen. Good place for her
Murkwater construction site?
@@Dealerofdeath1998 That's the one, yep!
Dermot and Saint James not on the list?
A slave abductor and a rapiest aren't hated enough, but a griefing mother yes
Yes "hated" is misleading. This is not a list of evil. This is a dislike list of not evil people.
Dermot and St. James are very evil person. These are antagonist for basiclly everyone in this fictional world and real world. They aren't stupid enough to realize the consequnces of their doin. They can reflect themself. They know it and attack you straight after getting exposed. you don't need to explain it them.
Swanick and Fantastic are morons and can't reflect themself or never ever learned it before reaching thier 25th year of age (the brain is fully out grown). They are too dumb or don't have the mechanics worked out in thier childhood for that. Try to work or be a friend with a real very low IQ person? They can be easilly turned into very bad people from the outside perspective but in there perspective they are good as usuall (Fantastic).
They can stalk you and never ever realized how bad this is. They feel in good intention or it is funny because this is how they feel and thats it. They can abuse other people because they feelin good (yes sx feels good:) ...... the Swanick moron
The Longs lost thier child and they doin "approach this problem till the lost is redone" like everybody is doin after a relationship is over (lost, divorce, break up, etc). BUT they stay the entire game with only 1 approach way to solve it. Marcy is doin the only the attack approach (fight it away, force the redone, etc) and the dude doin the devot way (begging, make a deal at his cost, etc). They never change! Force it to be redone doesn't work, crying, begging, make a deal, change yourself (Im the reason), change the other person (not me the reason), ...
After all these approaches the brain finally learn this road together ends here and never go further!
Parker Quin is selfish af and you can hear that he is capable of knowing what he is doin and so arrogant to say it quit enough so he could response with "I didn't say that and I was about something very diffrent topic" or so.
The 200years old childs are terrible done (for my taste but thats my complaining over the top problem in this case) but atleast they are doin thier homework. Falling on thier noses to learn how to walk right.
I liked them all in thier intented way.
Thank you for not doing my babe Preston too awful bad. He's too good and kind to be cursed to a life of quest-giving, so I just take the initiative and go recruit settlements and listen to Radio Freedom to give the man some respite
Hilarious that the Obsidian characters were intentionally written to be lamentable, but not the Bethesda ones 😂
Why would anyone hate Fantastic? He's Fantastic
You can kill Marcy. I'm not sure when but after a certain mission she should lose her essential status
Can confirm, once Sanctuary is settled, snipe her from a distance.
It's after Momma Murphy ODs
It’s worth the sacrifice
So I can kill 2 annoying characters at once? Sweet!
You can also kill Jun, but I actually like the poor guy. I always deck him out
1. First citizen
2. Preston Garvey
3. Eulogy Jones
4. Knight Rhys
5. Alice McLafferty
Marcy Long being essential was removed in an update.
In my 3rd playthrough of F4 Marcy died in a super mutant attack! Everybody was super bummed in the settlement but I was soooo happy. Like literal real life joy 😊
That line about Sheffield saying more or less he and Darcy are the same person, doesn’t sit well with me.
FR I love my man sheffield
I appreciate you saying Jet is a drug that Myron "claimed" to have created, instead of outright saying it's his creation. People always try to make that claim when debating the lore of Jet, and I just sit there thinking "Well, you ever think that guy was just, y'know, lying to you?"
I normally send Marcy to the worst settlement on her own
You know a character is loathsome when you haft to install a mod to make them nicer.
My UA-cam doesn’t give me update on you and I got the bell and everything. Great video as always man!
I was watching my friend play New Vegas for the first time and I told him to stop right before he got to Nipton. I then recited Oliver’s entire lottery speech. My friend was stunned.
Who hates Fantastic come on man dude is hilarious
They're just jealous of his handsome looks and theoretical skill and intelligence
It's Myron baby, MYRON!
Killed Myron instantly for the first six or so times through...then kept him for the Jet cure (then killed him!).
What? myron's clearly the best and most heroic of fallout companions. He's just a wholesome, humble genius. He's more wholesome than Curie 🙏 Jet's the BIGGEST BLESSING the wasteland has ever received since the atomic bombs and the cannibals
Fantastic is fantastic.
One of the funniest characters in the first few hours of New Vegas!
If simps still exist, they are on that list.
Amazed Mama Murphy didn't make the list
The lady from Vault city not being here is crazy.
Do people actually hate Fantastic?
i thought he was funny
Nah, he was hilarious!
Really enjoy your videos bro!
My mosy hated characters are as follows
1. First Citizen (fallout 2)
2. Myron (Fallout 2)
3. The whole Bishop Family (fallout 2)
4. Madison Li (fallout 3 & 4)
5. Knight Rys (Fallout 4)
I never played new vegas yet and I don't remember much of the 1st fallout game.
Every character in the Fallout tv show, with the exception of the Ghoul and maybe Lucy.
4:30 when in Rome
I'm sorry but I love Fantastic and he has the BEST line ever! (the one about having a theoretical degree in physics).
I alwaysss send Marcy away to her own settlement with no other settlers ASAP. Sometimes I'll send her husband with her too, because he's super emo, but usually I feel bad to leave him alone with her.
Is Oliver really annoying or do people kill him because they love him
Pretty sure the store clerk in Fight Club was named Raymond
Might be a hot take but I never really minded Oliver Swanick, I found him kind of funny and a hilarious contrast to the death and suffering further into Nipton, way better comedy than some of the wild wasteland easter eggs that are just movie references "HEY GUYS LOOK! MONTY PYTHON!"
I'm willing to cut Sticky a little slack since you can convince him with a speech check to quit talking so much, I found him rather useful to be an extra carry mule at times when I would ambush Outcast patrols and needed an extra set of hands to carry the power armor and rocket launchers.
Oliver Swanick deserves to due purely on bases of being a Powder Ganger.
That bark scorpion line had me rolling lmfao
Strange. Basically all my favorite characters
The leader of Vault-City ?
First Citizen, to you!😆
Woah woah not even a mention of First Citizen???
First Citizen Lynette! What a....
The reason people dislike Oliver Swanick is probably because it's a scripted event that's really hard to avoid. At least, that's my reason for not liking him. Same with Old Ben in front of the gate to the Strip in Freeside.
Fantastic is great though, he's just going with the flow and doing his best with the hand he was dealt all relying on one lucky speech check. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he had maxxed out luck.
Wait, people actually hate Mr Fantastic?
Most of the population from Fallout 3 needs to be on here.
Oliver swannick always gets a mouthful of buckshot from me lmao i don't even let the idiot enter dialogue 🤣
Ricky from the Honest Hearts DLC should be on this list lol
I feel like there are a lot more hateable characters in FNV besides the ones listed. For me personally, Saint James and Marmot, Deputy Beagle, and Caleb McCaffery (Bounty hunter dude who steals from the Garret Twins),. The first ones just engage in despicable acts. The second speaks like a full time forum user and complains about every decision you make regardless of contributing to the town's welfare. The third being a jerk and condescending no matter what dialogue option you pick with him.
Nah Fantastic rules! He has so many great lines, can't help but love him
The Mick and Ralph’s kids. He’s getting shot no matter what.
How could you forget Roy Philips?
No honorable mention for Ian with an automatic weapon? 😂
I think this is more like Most Annoying Fallout Characters
I was today years old when I learned you can romance Garvey. I couldn't stand him 5min into my first playthrough.
I actually like Preston. I shot Swanick immediately after asking him if he's a Powder Ganger. I shoot Powder Gangers on sight. I then proceeded to clear Nipton of all undesirables. No mercy for the Legion... now to start a playthrough siding with them. 😀
3:13 hey, I just said that! lol
"chahge cahd"
*Punches coordinates to artillery computer" All batteries, fire for effect.
Shaun! SHAUN! SHAUNNNN!
Parker quinn just made me loathe emil more than i already did. Always raise an eyebrow when i hear people complain about self inserts like ullyses, but not the mf whose decided his self insert should be bringing back iou-s in the post apocalypse.
Ill be takimg those caps now Malcom
No Knight Shin? Or that Temu-ass Johnny Bravo, Buttercup? SMH.
Jezebel deserved to be in this video
Who would hate Fantastic?!
Good video but i feel "most annoying characters" would be more fittting than "hated"
Oliver isn’t so lucky as he thinks. After all, he encounters the courier and is very annoying
Really dont understand the hate towards Oliver
Paul is the worst one for me, the man is a weasel, he can't get his wife himself so he relies on you to do it then when cooke goes missing he points the finger at you. I'm just sorry you can't really punish him the way he deserves
I have to resist the urge to shoot Chet every time.
Frist play though of Fallout NV i killed that dude ass thinking he must have fat stacks of crash after winning that lottery 😂
So much missed potential to not have Riko from Hannah Montana in fallout show play Myron & Johnny peperton as fantastic horrible horrible acting choices we just don’t talk about anything past new Vegas for this series thanks Todd
Whaat, Fantastic us one of the funnyesd characters 😂
wait oliver swanick is hated?
Fantastic is my most beloved character
No mention of the little girl voice acted by a real life little girl advertising the brothel bar?
I don't think she even has a name, does she? It's been a while since I've been in freeside.
Trudy!!!
I die inside a little every time I hear: “I can rest easy knowing that Wolfgang is rotting in Hell.”
I just hate Oliver solely because whenever I talk to him it crashes my game on PC, so yeah that is my reason
This is the ineptitude of Bethesda's writting team, just look at the disrespect they show the Dragonborn. Then again, I guess it's to be expected when you hire writers with teenage mentality and zero life experience.
Mick and Ralph kid
I love that when you aim a gun at him, one of his voice lines is “Hey! I can almost see right down the barrel!”
how to get rid of marcy with ease build a "ethical' farm at red rocket send marcy there profit
Marcy fallout 4
Why would you hate swanick tho
i just kill him for the funnys
marcy isnt essential tho
WAIT FANTASTIC IS HATED???
I'm shocked moria Brown isn't on this list. So annoying and makes you go on a long dangerous quest. And if you nuke her she somehow survives!!
I dont like Chet from NV but I hate Marcy most of all
Ulysses is easily the worst character in the entire franchise to me. Keywords "To me". I hate that pseudo intellectual so much. I kill him in every playthrough. I never talk hik down.
"bUT hE HaS 10 iN inTelLIgEncE"
Ulysses is my fav though.
he talks way too much and he steal ed-e:(
You can take out the “to me” part because I found him insufferable as well. I couldn’t stand hearing him drone on.
Just send Marcy to hangman's alley and never develop it since it's cramped and sucks anyway, problem solved.
You forgot my mom
I don't fault Marcy's attitude, given what she's been through. She blames others for failing her family, while Jun blames himself. She doesn't want to get close to or put trust in the General because that trust has been betrayed.
marcy bad tho
Three Dog is probably my most hated. He always suffers an accident during my playthroughs.
Fallout 4 has such a vast disparity in annoying characters compared to the rest of the series. I think its a result of the drop in writing quality
Disagree. Firstly new vegas has plenty with swanick, Holmes and kowalski. Secondly the annoying characters in 4 except for Preston are explicitly written to be disliked and at that they excel, thus making those characters well written. The exception to this rule is Preston since we are supposed to like him
@@mappingshaman5280 This, I love how F4 is bad, no matter what. Character is supposed to be hated, fuck F4 terrible writing.
Todd Howard
Why is depreston gravy not on here ?
Marcy isnt essential btw
No one from fallout 3 what a normie
There was Princess from Little Lamplight. And also Sticky.
do you have dementia? he literally has two characters from fallout 3
never comment while high
Chahge cahd.
Man your politics reaally shine through from the reasoning you employ (and it's not pretty)
What the legion? It's just a game.
5:31 hehehehe