CLEANING STONE AND BRICK WITH ACID (part 2) Mike Haduck
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2016
- I this video I show how a union mason cleaned a brick building
using acid. I am not a fan of using acid but it is how I understand
many masons use it. All my videos are my ways I ideas, I always
suggest anyone doing any type of work to consult professional
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The best tutorial brick cleaning video on UA-cam
Thanks Richard, Mike
Thanks for this one , finally a real good explanation for us newbie's. Thumbs up..👍
Thanks, Mike
This is a man of quality. Like a craftsman and master of his trade. You can just tell.
Thanks, Mike
thank you for the "real world" video...and the suggestions on what to do before using acid. Hello from Texas!
Thanks yohn,, Mike
Thank you for the safety warnings ! Great video.
Thanks ,Mike
Thanks u opened my eye before I caused damage. 1875 house red highly smooth serface and red mortar, very thin line. I know it a fancy pricy homes so I will test a lot befor I endeavour. Straight forward video, clearly think befor u do,,, thanks.
thanks Mark, I hope it helps, mike
Thanks, Mike, great video.
thanks, mike
Great videos Mike!
Since you don't recommend acid or pressure washing, do you happen to know a good cleaning method and solution for 30 year old brick? Thanks for the advice on the acid and pressure washing by the way! I had no idea they could be so harmful.
Thanks for the video saved me wasting time and money on bricks that are not going to be cleaned in this manner.
Thanks Dale, Mike
Hey Mike Chester here We are trying to restore brick fireplaces. Im scrambling through internet I see your video and know now Ill be okay Im not sure we will use the acid possibly something less aggressive. By the way a couple of friends and I did twenty three steps with a eleven foot drop. I just wanted to thank you. Most things are "no big deal " God bless you, yf Chester
Thanks ,Chester, God bless you also, mike
One of the Best products for using on Natural Stone that I have used from this Company SUREKLEAN is Vana Trol. The results have been the Best! for removing all the dust and dirt that comes from the Stone Yard, including any Cement Stains. In most cases I clean the Stone first so I can see all the rich colors. The Vana Trol removes all dust and dirt and the clients really see the difference! As Mike has shared, test before using. Make sure you cover the location, Driveway or - when cleaning. I use 60m grade Construction paper to cover area when cleaning the Stone. Once again, Great product! Vana Trol. Thank You! Mike!
Jaime .yer the best, and with you work you know the right thing, thanks for the input, I love your channels, mike
Thank You! Mike! for all your support & encouragement! Your video's have been the Best!
Great video's Mike!
thanks sam, I appreciate it. mike
Thanks Mike for taking the time to show us the right way. I have learned a lot.
Thanks David, mike
Correction... There's the right way, the wrong way, then there's Mike's way! ✌️👽❤️
Wow such good info. I don't want to risk ruining my brick. It's soft as a steaming pile of shit! Thank you Mike!
Thanks Tyler, mike
thanks for this video
I used vinegar on this job in DC to clean off a terra-cotta band. It required a little bit more elbow grease but it did the trick without burning the brick.
thanks for the input, mike
Restore colour to crazy paving
Pure vinegar or you mix with water and what the ratio mix ? Thanks
@@vincentdrago6022 Usually the acidity of vinegar is 5-6% acetic acid. However, you can buy stronger, such as 10-12%.
Thanks
That prosco 600 cleaner does have the muriatic acid which isn't as harsh as pure muriatic acid. A lot of the brick companies label their brick with a do not use acid. You are right it can be bad on the brick. There are times when it can be useful for those times when the film stays. I agree certain time certain jobs. I always suggest like a 5 to 1 mix to start on a tough job .Less if not so bad. An alkaline ( household ammonia) applied afterwords then a mild detergent helps get rid of any remaining acid after the cleaning.
thanks for the input, mike
I've always used acid if the brick manufacture said it was ok. And that was always a question I ask before purchase. Your brick appeared to be an easy to clean product. Good job and great end results.
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Been a while since I heard this much talk about doin’ joints and usin’ acid…but I’ll give it a shot boss 😅
Thanks, be careful, I try everything else before using acid, thanks Mike
Thank you
Thanks Judy, Mike
Thank you because I have two old cans of muriatic acid and keep telling myself to go out and scrub the brick walls. But I guess I will try vinegar, first.
We like to use straight muriatic diluted of course. Much stronger than Sure Kleen. Depends on the surface. We are old school. Great video.
Thanks 4runner, mike
You're definitely supposed to add acid to water, as adding water to acid, and I mean concentrated acid, is an exothermic reaction.
However, "Brick Acid" is usually a diluted solution of HCL. 10% usually. Enough to hurt you, but not enough to be considered 'concentrated', as that would be >90% HCL.
I read a thing on line a few years back Mike about brick cleaning .they were discussing in country's were its the norm to clean new brickwork with acid wash was the standard of brickwork (cleanliness wise) falling because the masons knew there was guys coming on behind them to clean the work . So they were posing the question if the brick cleaning was fazed out would that then cause the masons to keep the brick clean because they would no longer have the safety net of cleaners coming on behind them.certainly I know in Ireland and I think the uk it's not the practice to wash new brick work down you are required to leave clean work from the trowel . What ever about the brick itself it can't do day old mortar any good to be washed and scrubbed with acid and brush.
I know everyone has their own policy, I just finished that project and thought it would make a good video, everyone thinks different for sure, thanks for the comment, mike
Mike Haduck it's an excellent video mike .the finished project is a credit to you and the guys that worked on it with well done .
thanks bric bybrick, I appreciate it. mike
I like to use a grout sponge as well with elbow grease 👍 But contact a professional. Don’t do this if you don’t have experience. Most Masons don’t even know how to do it right let alone a homeowner or someone with no experience. Wear appropriate safety equipment. I use good acid gloves, googles, mask, hat and long sleeve shirt. And don’t just spray the water on top of the acid in the bucket like they did it will kick up a super harmful mist you will breath into your lungs. So Gently pour it in. Put water in first. Mix ratios I use are 1-8 (heavy duty) 1-12 heavy/medium 1-16 medium 1-24 light I only do heavy duty when i have to melt the cement off the brick. Most the time 1-12 and 1-16 are used. Make sure you rinse wall well and don’t let acid dry in the brick.
HIRE A PROFESSIONAL! Awesome Video
Thanks, Mike
Hey Mike, do you still do Masonry work? I'm in NEPA & looking for an estimate on foundation repair? Unable to find a contact number for you :(
That’s some rough brick work, and I’m glad I was taught to lay brick as clean as possible
I will try harder, thanks mike
Didn’t mean it in a bad way there’s some brick it don’t matter they get dirty and look rough, I’ve layed those brick in the video before and there one of them bricks, float around don’t set up very good and there not as straight as they appear, but I love your videos you remind so much of the man that taught me, and like how you say the real world seems like everyone these days think if it works on paper it has to work in real life
Thanks Codi, I appreciate it, mike
Same product im during hope it works
I would be carefull,
First off you never use metal tools or wire brushes to clean masonry. The metal wears off on the masonry and can leave rust stains. You put water in the bucket first so the fumes are less when pouring 100% surekleen or acidic cleaners in a bucket. Fill the bucket with proper amount of water then add the acid. It can be measured that way also. Surekleen has muriatic acid in it. It also has emulsifiers in it to make it cling to the surface. You try to keep the brick as clean as possible but you will have to clean it. You need to thoroughly wet the wall before placing any cleaner on the wall to keep the wall from absorbing the cleaner and working on the surface. Vanatrol works better with bricks that containing manganese which will turn green a few days after cleaning with surekleen 600. Test panel should also be done for any cleaning method on a sample panel or most inconspicuous place on an existing building. If OSHA ever showed up on your job you would have so many violations you would be buried in tens of thousands of dollars in fines. I use old mortar formed into brick type shapes (not as big) but in handy sizes from left over mortar as the job progress. It's free and does not damage the brick. As it wears sand particles help clean the brick.
Who cares what you think? Go make your own channel & STFU.
Too big of a job for me but when I did my brick work ( a small wall ) I used straight lemon juice works every time ! And no worries about getting acid on you .
Thanks, Mike
interesting
I've noticed in my experience that using too much acid promotes efflorescence. most guys here just burn the crap out of jobs, but you can tell when it is burned when that's all you see is rough sand mortar joints.
thanks Jerry, good point, thanks mike
Jerry Scary-- Thanks for that tip....never realized that's what the acid did...
Thank you! I have a whole single story complex to clean up because they used white mortar to egress two windows in each one. Bad job and looks like sh#t. I was hoping that the acid would slightly stain the white and dull it some. The only white mortar is in the brick ledges so you can only imagine how that looks. Any suggestions would be helpful. I am a fix it guy and I am known to fix anything. This is a first for me. Thanks in advance!
Hi Randy, I have a video called " matching cement joints re laying brick, Mike haduck, that might help, Mike
It is safer if insted acid and raber with a brick if you use nivea cream or some kind of skin mosturaising for skin, the bricks will look lovely............
HI paulo, anything that works, I appreciate it. mike
adding acid and water together gives heat. If you add water into acid, it can suddenly heat and get to boiling point and make an acid splash. That is why it is suggested to do other way around.
Thanks, Mike
What would you use if you can't reach the brick and have to pressure wash from the ground using a wand?
Hi Steven, it sounds dangerous to me, I am not a fan of using acid unless it is the last resort, acid can do a lot of damage to surroundings, if that makes sense, thanks mike
Don't you have to neutralize the acic with more than water? Like a baking soda water mix or something so it doesn't keep working or if it goes down a drain melt the plastic? Or is the stuff when you use it different?
Hi Fred, I only know that that is way they do it, and they usually use it all up so they do not have to dump it, I hope it helps thanks mike
Yes, I think it's always worth trying to neutralise any residual acid. This is normal practice after removing rust and concrete from tools. The acid will still etch away, if you don't stop the reaction.
Hi Mike,
Thank you for this video.
May I clean my fireplace bricks (indoor) with this acid ? Does it have a smell ?
Hi Veggie, I am not a fan of using acid unless you are a professional, thanks Mike
Thanks getting ready to do this on a new chimney o hard bake brick this im Shore will clean up the ugly film
Thanks, Mike
Hey Mike I have a customer that used concrete dust on an interlock driveway dont ask why they did but you know what happened the residue is now stuck on the brick driveway. I was hoping to use acid but after watching this video im second guessing myself. Would you have any suggestions to try.
Hi CRS, hard to answer, if it don't come off with a steel brush and water you could do more damage to the brick than it's worth and then they blame you for that, thanks mike
4:47 for this brick, would you just use brick on brick to clean it? any other tips for this kind of brick? Thank you!
Hi Tyler, I would just go with a soft brush and water first , then work my way up to a steel brush and then try different things till something works, but start in a spot no one sees and practice till you find the right solution, I hope it helps , mike
@@MikeHaduck awesome buddy thanks!
weve recently had a painter seal the brick before we had a chance to wash it. any idea of getting through to clean sealed brick
Hi D. I never did that so I can not really comment... with all the different makes of brick anything could happen, I would do a test spot first, I hope it helps thanks mike
Hi D. Zent, there is no way around it, you are going to have to use a stripper to remove the sealer. There are many chemical companies that make strippers for coatings and sealers.
Please contact me if you need ideas or more info on this subject:
Maurice
Pressure Washing Services
Salt Lake City, Utah
801-888-5060
We always neutralize our masonry surfaces that we’ve cleaned with acid. We use baking soda.
Thanks Scuba, I never heard that, I will keep it in mind, thanks, Mike
Pretty good howto if you ask me.
Thanks Dan, Mike
No idea
Come to Sydney,Aus
Thanks Ivan, Mike
There is "Eco acid" alternatives now still corrosive and needs the concrete slab kept wet.
Thanks again, Mike
It's ok. About to attempt tommorow, I had to prepare the area by sealing up at the edge of the exposed eave so pressure hose doesnt get into the wall.
Appalling HSE compliance when adding water to a is in a spray/mist. In the ‘Old World’ we add the acid to the water but then again most professionals dong get mortar on the brick!
Hi Andy, well I never met a perfect or rich mason, I must go hand in hand, lol, Mike
@@MikeHaduck check out some of the UK bricklayers on UA-cam (we generally reserve the word Mason for those working stone)
As for the disregard of safety I hope you never have to learn about industrial chemicals the hard way..
Well, I'm in my late 60s, been through wars etc , God got me this far so if I make it a couple more years i,lI, be happy, thanks for your concern,, mike
@@MikeHaduck my concern is not for you, obviously you’re big enough and daft enough to make your own decisions but demonstrating adding water to concentrated acid, an exothermic process, is plain irresponsible, the splashes which can be seen round the bucket are initially highly concentrated and can cause serious burns. You can live in the last century but demonstrating the wrong procedure is plain irresponsible …
I wouldn't mess around with acid. If I need heave protective gear to use something so I won't burn myself, I personally will not use it.
I would be more worried about burning myself then burning the brick.
Hi baal, it sounds reasonable to me, thanks mike
I dont want to use acid but i do need to use something! How do i remove tar and soot stains off brick? Ive tried using vinegar, turpentine, paint thinner,bleach,regular water and the stains do not come off.
hi mihkel,, sorry, I never seen anything clean brick completely, I usually end up painting them, I hope it helps, thanks mike
Ive actually sanded and repolished..
To remove soot, I understand that a small amount of lye is used, in a water solution along with surfactant which is sprayed on.
For tar or bitumen you could use a butane torch to melt it and a scraper to lift it off.
I use this product as well as renew and envirokleen. Not a fan of muriatic ...I know most brick and stone people do cause it s cheap but I don't
Hi John, I am not a fan of acid at all, sometimes with a glass type brick like this you do not get a choice, anything that works, thanks mike
Use vanatrol a lot better than 600 less chance of burning the brick and mortar
I have never used it so I can not comment, but thanks , mike
No hard hat , must have been a Sunday video. Your right that brick sucks trying to clean . 17yrs if cleaning new construction brick both residential and commercial. Turbo tip and straight Sure Clean 600 , just tell superintendent to look away....lol
Thanks Kyle, Mike
Hi, Mike have done a few brick pointing jobs ,and each job i can see i'm getting better. I can see that few people want to do pointing for a number of reasons ,as it is a detailed oriented job ,and no one wants to spend the money to get it done . I use bag mortar and i noticed no two companies are the same color . "Mason Mix is lighter in color than standard Mortar . How do you tint the mortar to adjust the color ?
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@@roygonzales4334 Type O Mortar ?
these brickies sound like they're from the sopranos
Hi, could be, lol, Mike
Its Me Mike . How are you? I'm almost done. No acid. None yet
Thanks, mike
bad bad bricklayer
Hi, bee, I only been doing it over 50 years but if you made a video better. Send it to me, I am always willing to learn, thanks mike
Why is using a pressure washer not a good idea? I've just washed my window sill with a 15 to 25 deg attachment. It is an electric 1.8 galon washer. It removed the dirt of the brick. Also washed the windows. What's the harm?
Hi razz, if it works for you and there is nothing wrong or no damage that's good, thanks mike
I'd be concentrating more on getting my bricks straight before using acid mate
Hi, those bricks absorbed no water, glass type, industrial, you got to work with what you got and owners agreed, otherwise more time more money, thanks Mike
two minutes in and we dont need acid God speed
Thanks Chester, mike
thankyou so much i’m gonna be doing this tomorrow another 9 hour shift of workin
Be careful, Mike
Get some better brick layers
Hi Chris, bricklayer is a dying trade, everything is fake and premade anymore, and everyone is on unemployment and don't wanna work, thanks Mike
a soft brush will get that off just after jointing.
And using acid too clean it of the day after will ruin the mortar.
Pretty clueless arnt you pal
Thanks Lee, send me your video link I always want to learn, thanks mike
I don't like it, using acid to clean brickwork. Both hazardous to the user and harmful to the environment.
Hi No name I agree, Mike
Why do you clean the building everyday ?
Must not have much else going on
Hi Quenton, it all depends on the job, thanks mike
Day raters, if they were hourly, they'd have done it last thing friday