Kain main here. Kain is the best class I’ve played, out of nearly half the roster. We have a shitload of burst that only takes about 12-15 seconds to pull off, and you’re framed for like 3-4 of it. Origin hits pretty hard initially and then results in a crapload of lines for the following 20 seconds. On top of amazing damage we have good mobility with the resettable, Omni directional dash(great mobility if there’s platforms to rope lift to) and having built in Iframe on one of our burst skills is wonderful, Thanatos also locks you in place mid air, so phase 2 Damien you get off 1/4 of your total burst guaranteed. Dedicated frame skill that if used right is available basically every time you need it. On top of great and simple burst(it really is super simple, despite how it sounds) we also have good dps in between burst. Machining that dps is a little bit of work, but you can really get away with just kinda button mashing so long as ur managing your gauge. Our main burst skills are also fairly potent and all on 90s CD, vicious shot is a 2m CD and our big burst is a 3 minute CD. So, while not seamlessly, we can fit into 90 second parties, 2 min parties, and 3 minute parties pretty well. Overall main is great. 9.5/10 class training on large maps has to be active, that’s the only down side. I think everyone should play kain at least as a bossing mule, strong class without much funding. Look forward to seeing you in the discord
@@kjs6096 I have not played pathfinder. But from what I understand they’re not that great for burst output, but have better simpler dpm and much less active grinding.
What great timing! I literally just started gearing up my Kain as a bossing mule and loved it so much I decided to main it. So it's great getting a bit more insight from you. Love your vids, can't wait for more :)
I just started Maple and decided to main Kain. Super fun class so far. I leveled some other characters for Links but always want to go back to my Kain. The damage and skills are so satisfying and it's not a brain dead class. Thanks for the guide!
For burst unseen sniper can be done right away and you don't need to hold. When you get 6th job after fatal blitz you would want to do possessed falling dust then poison needle before 2nd part of thanatos descent
After the burst, whats the play, I assume its Possesion > Strike Arrow to get a stack, and doing that and using your best available execute right? and if everything is on CD do we use the execute without CD(Phantom Blade) and just just rotate best available while getting stacks till CD? so constantly pressing Posession + Strike Arrow right? off burst
Looking it up, it seems to be exactly that! Spam strike arrow until you get a possession stack, use possession skills off-cooldown, and spam executes off-cooldown as well once the boss has a death blessing stack. In case I got it wrong, and/or you wanted more direct info, here's this flowchart shamelessly ripped from the Kain discord: i.imgur.com/qnRA9A4.png
i think thanatos decen is somewhat different from god wrath cause when u re-activate thanatos early, the extra attack (small arrow) buff still in effect while with hoyoung, if you re-activate too early, you dont get extra attack (small hand punching down) :-? please excuse my bad english and explaination
Assuming you're excluding mercedes because of their odd combo system and cycling CDs, I'd argue either Shade (decent mobbing, supportive fun in bosses), or Luminous (great mobbing, fairly straightforward with not much to remember or keep track of besides some 5ths I believe) Recommendations vary vastly depending on what playstyle you prefer, and with Hero classes specifically they all have systems with slight learning curves
Can someone break down the differences of Kain vs Hoyoung? I have a hoyoung 280 and I'm kind of tired of the long prep time for burst - is this different for kain?
Hoyoung relies a lot more on placing a bunch of summons, and buffs like clones and butterflies. Kain is moreso a charge-heavy class, relying on swapping to Possession to get stronger hits out, and in general just has WAY less mobility. Burst-wise I believe Kain has less prep time, only really needing to prepare Possess charges, Grip of Agony stacks, and buffs before using all your big beam skills and Execute skills
I'm overall on his side. There's a lot of truth to his words and Nexon absolutely should give Interactive worlds/reg server some love too, especially if they've recently said they want to do better and are drifting away from KMS, etc.
The way you talk with question marks at the end of sentences just grinds my gears You present the content beautifully but the tones need work This isn’t a hate comment, just honestly want you to succeed! GL
Kain main here. Kain is the best class I’ve played, out of nearly half the roster. We have a shitload of burst that only takes about 12-15 seconds to pull off, and you’re framed for like 3-4 of it. Origin hits pretty hard initially and then results in a crapload of lines for the following 20 seconds. On top of amazing damage we have good mobility with the resettable, Omni directional dash(great mobility if there’s platforms to rope lift to) and having built in Iframe on one of our burst skills is wonderful, Thanatos also locks you in place mid air, so phase 2 Damien you get off 1/4 of your total burst guaranteed. Dedicated frame skill that if used right is available basically every time you need it. On top of great and simple burst(it really is super simple, despite how it sounds) we also have good dps in between burst. Machining that dps is a little bit of work, but you can really get away with just kinda button mashing so long as ur managing your gauge.
Our main burst skills are also fairly potent and all on 90s CD, vicious shot is a 2m CD and our big burst is a 3 minute CD. So, while not seamlessly, we can fit into 90 second parties, 2 min parties, and 3 minute parties pretty well.
Overall main is great. 9.5/10 class training on large maps has to be active, that’s the only down side. I think everyone should play kain at least as a bossing mule, strong class without much funding. Look forward to seeing you in the discord
Way too clunky and too much work for little damage. Not worth
@@4lAces top 10 damage dealer, smooth and fluid and pretty brain dead dps doesn’t really match your description. You obviously don’t play kain
Have you played much Pathfinder? How do they compare?
@@kjs6096 if u want to do more damage, play kain, if you want to enjoy your time doing said damage, play pathfinder.
@@kjs6096 I have not played pathfinder. But from what I understand they’re not that great for burst output, but have better simpler dpm and much less active grinding.
I LOVE IT THANK YOU FOR DOING A GUIDE FOR KAIN! I was waiting for this really in depth and fun and also you listen to your Subs/comments! LOVE IT
What great timing! I literally just started gearing up my Kain as a bossing mule and loved it so much I decided to main it. So it's great getting a bit more insight from you. Love your vids, can't wait for more :)
I just started Maple and decided to main Kain. Super fun class so far. I leveled some other characters for Links but always want to go back to my Kain. The damage and skills are so satisfying and it's not a brain dead class. Thanks for the guide!
Mercedes next please! Thx for all the work you put into these videos !
Illium next!
As an Illium main, I second this comment
@@TwistedEyes12 I third this!
Oh just in time. I am considering hyperburning this class
For burst unseen sniper can be done right away and you don't need to hold. When you get 6th job after fatal blitz you would want to do possessed falling dust then poison needle before 2nd part of thanatos descent
Dual Blade next!
Lara next please! Your videos have been helping so much in making progress! thanks so much & keep up the great work!!
After the burst, whats the play, I assume its Possesion > Strike Arrow to get a stack, and doing that and using your best available execute right? and if everything is on CD do we use the execute without CD(Phantom Blade) and just just rotate best available while getting stacks till CD? so constantly pressing Posession + Strike Arrow right? off burst
Looking it up, it seems to be exactly that! Spam strike arrow until you get a possession stack, use possession skills off-cooldown, and spam executes off-cooldown as well once the boss has a death blessing stack.
In case I got it wrong, and/or you wanted more direct info, here's this flowchart shamelessly ripped from the Kain discord: i.imgur.com/qnRA9A4.png
I’d love a Demon slayer made easy
please do a ds guide, i want to main DS the next hyperburn event. thank you!
anyone know the damage skin?
"Kain Damage Skin", from when Kain was first released! i.imgur.com/AswKUaJ.png
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Battle mage next please!
i think thanatos decen is somewhat different from god wrath cause when u re-activate thanatos early, the extra attack (small arrow) buff still in effect while with hoyoung, if you re-activate too early, you dont get extra attack (small hand punching down) :-? please excuse my bad english and explaination
Any recommend hero class (exclude merc) for a new main?
Assuming you're excluding mercedes because of their odd combo system and cycling CDs, I'd argue either Shade (decent mobbing, supportive fun in bosses), or Luminous (great mobbing, fairly straightforward with not much to remember or keep track of besides some 5ths I believe)
Recommendations vary vastly depending on what playstyle you prefer, and with Hero classes specifically they all have systems with slight learning curves
@@Decatei wow thank you very much!!
Thank you!! 🙏🏾
Would love to see Khali!
I wish I could play it, GMS not having local servers is a tragedy, these ping reliant classes are a shame to play from outside the US 😔
where is kain in character selection??
Love your videos! Kindly asking again for xenon! :)
Shade pls next
Hello. Can you make a video on Lara and Adele?
Can someone break down the differences of Kain vs Hoyoung? I have a hoyoung 280 and I'm kind of tired of the long prep time for burst - is this different for kain?
Hoyoung relies a lot more on placing a bunch of summons, and buffs like clones and butterflies.
Kain is moreso a charge-heavy class, relying on swapping to Possession to get stronger hits out, and in general just has WAY less mobility.
Burst-wise I believe Kain has less prep time, only really needing to prepare Possess charges, Grip of Agony stacks, and buffs before using all your big beam skills and Execute skills
Decatei thoughts on the Niru incident? Personally I think: based
I'm overall on his side.
There's a lot of truth to his words and Nexon absolutely should give Interactive worlds/reg server some love too, especially if they've recently said they want to do better and are drifting away from KMS, etc.
Dual blade next!!!! Best class!
Bro, screw all the rest … blaster !
Dual blade pleaseee
Dual blade next pleaseeeeeeee!!
i love your guides. super useful!! can you please do illium and shade next? :)
Please do dual blade next
Mihile next please
Illium please
illium next please
Khali next please!!!!
Ark when ?
please do shade :D
Mechanic next please! :D
Mercedes please!
Paladin next pls? Give the tanky boi sum love..
Marksman next plss
The way you talk with question marks at the end of sentences just grinds my gears
You present the content beautifully but the tones need work
This isn’t a hate comment, just honestly want you to succeed! GL
Kaiser please ❤️
ADELE ADELE ADELE!!!!!!!!!
Khali next please
The Mihile main in me is sad 😢 lol
Guide to Cadena you won't :D
hayato next pls!!!!
Kaiser bro kaiser
Khali!!
Ark Next
Now guide to Cadena, you wont
ark!
Thunder breaker pls
Gonna keep saying demon slayer until it happens these are too good not to watch anyway though ❤️
DK PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
they need to get rid of all the execute skills and just make 1 or 2. no reason to have so many
Please dooo pathfinder next or soon. Class seems so cool but so confusing to me with its gauge system