Genetics of the Andronovo

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2024

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  • @polatism1
    @polatism1 Місяць тому +9

    We are also waiting for the culture of Srubnaya! An excellent video as always.

  • @PravdaRex-ti7cw
    @PravdaRex-ti7cw Місяць тому +2

    Great work Andrei! Also interesting that the samples skew to the Oxus Culture! Thanks for all of your great work,

  • @kubislav1313
    @kubislav1313 Місяць тому +2

    Hi Andrei! I'm quite surprised how light the Andronovo people were in comparsion to Corded ware ones. Very interesting!

    • @allahandro8367
      @allahandro8367 Місяць тому

      I don’t get why that is surprising, it was common knowledge a few years ago now…it’s like some people think selection only happened to modern people

  • @nukhetyavuz
    @nukhetyavuz Місяць тому +1

    id think they represented more the tagar culture,which comprised so many different phenotypes...i think indo iranian phenotypes only comprised one tenth of the whole tagar culture...btw...could u do a video about tagar culture🙏

  • @ibrohimh9976
    @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +11

    Iranian-speaking peoples such as Kurds and Persians and Lurs, etc. are not Aryans but are descendants of the pre-Aryan inhabitants of Zagros

    • @radiozelaza
      @radiozelaza Місяць тому +1

      like the Gutians

    • @ParthianSpirit
      @ParthianSpirit Місяць тому +1

      Depends on the haplo

    • @shanguelei
      @shanguelei Місяць тому +3

      Total autosomal dna contribution is probably 25-40% in Iran. Total Yamnaya in the northwest like east Azerbaijan is probably the same as in Lezgin, Avar, and Akhvakh population groups.

    • @melodus2551
      @melodus2551 Місяць тому

      More evidence that mutted Dindu-Europeans falsely get credit for the achievements of, in large part, native Mediterraneans, West Asians, etc. which they mixed with.

    • @fewthefearlessjat3938
      @fewthefearlessjat3938 Місяць тому

      It's Indo-Iranian not Iranian

  • @samschlossberg476
    @samschlossberg476 Місяць тому +2

    Bro please do Maykop Culture next

  • @jasrajsandhu1658
    @jasrajsandhu1658 Місяць тому +2

    the reason for non of them scoring light blond hair (which alot of them should but the sample set is also low) is simply because this tool is rather rudimentary in being able to decipher between dark blond and light blond, for now, gentikers does a better job, we dont really know what allele is strongly correlated with light blond hair

    • @ShivanshTripathi-p3z
      @ShivanshTripathi-p3z Місяць тому

      Yes. It's very obvious for them to be blonde. Even today Dardic people have that hair type
      Same with 'snub nose' which was probably minority feature in em'

    • @jasrajsandhu1658
      @jasrajsandhu1658 Місяць тому

      @@ShivanshTripathi-p3z the nose trait prediction on this tool is rudimentary and is pseudo generally, don't take it to seriously.

  • @ibrohimh9976
    @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +1

    are there genetic studies about Tajiks from Northern Tajikistan and Samarkand and Bukhara, etc?

  • @xxxyyy5858
    @xxxyyy5858 Місяць тому +1

    Off topic comment . Sorry i just wonder AHG have C1a ydna but farmers in Anatolia have G ydna and they migrate Europe its turn I2a How is this happen?
    Second Does Globular amphore people score steppe? They are the lightest people after all

    • @duje44
      @duje44 Місяць тому +1

      farmers that went into Europe were sickly, they were malnourished, had bone deformations..etc,so they mixed with WHG I2 who were healthy and this is why I2 became dominant hg with early farmers

  • @Lastwarriorofsteppes
    @Lastwarriorofsteppes Місяць тому +1

    Can you make a video for vikings?
    If you can it would be great

  • @stegotyranno4206
    @stegotyranno4206 Місяць тому +1

    remember, the andronovo and sintashta were both partially mxied of yamnaya and european farmers. They also likely had hierarchy. So that could explain the difference in average heights and features, and also why they seem so similar to europeans on average.
    Perhaps only the higher classes (more pure yamnaya or different lineage/autosomal) actually contributed to modern Indo Iranian groups?

    • @proudbacteria1373
      @proudbacteria1373 4 дні тому

      I guess that Neolithic Iran and Anatolia farmers components were passed to Andronovo from Yamnaya.

  • @Based.Afghan
    @Based.Afghan Місяць тому +4

    Make a video on the genetics of nuristani and kalash people of north eastern afghanistan

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому

      Nuristanis and Kalash both are Indo-Iranian speaking population, Kalash are Dardic or North West Indian people, Kafirs of Nuristan are similar to Northern Pashtuns

    • @Based.Afghan
      @Based.Afghan 23 дні тому

      @@Yasa5na kalasha people literally migrated from waigal valley of Nuristan. They are last remaining kafir nuristanis who didn't accept Islam. Genetically both are pretty much the same.

    • @essaadeel3676
      @essaadeel3676 21 день тому +1

      Kalash people are Indo-Aryan and are native to northwestern Pakistan (Gandhara)

  • @-3ccis534
    @-3ccis534 Місяць тому +2

    Didn't expect snub nose to be common and i was surprised that they mostly were shorter then avarage
    Why they were shorter, they are the mighty warriors who invaded india after all or at least their sons or grandsons would

    • @-3ccis534
      @-3ccis534 Місяць тому +1

      And also curly hair it is very surprising

    • @ShivanshTripathi-p3z
      @ShivanshTripathi-p3z Місяць тому +1

      Sample size is less.
      I guess most would be slightly taller in terms of height and With Aquiline nose
      Moreover The AASI samples in India were also tall

  • @gvrxil
    @gvrxil Місяць тому +11

    So the Aryans were white, and many of which of did have blonde hair and blue eyes.

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf Місяць тому +4

      Well, those Aryans went through a lot of territory to get to India, and spent quite some time with BMAC, and Yaz. So the "Aryan" phenotype i.e Nordid would not be high among them otherwise India would have more Aryans than a handful of Bollywood actors.

    • @cenktuneygok8986
      @cenktuneygok8986 Місяць тому

      Imo Aryans looked similar to modern Iranians. Blondes were Yamnaya.

    • @-3ccis534
      @-3ccis534 Місяць тому

      ​@@Ponto-zv9vfisn't yaz culture just the result of BMAC and androvorno mixing

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Місяць тому

      @@cenktuneygok8986No

    • @gvrxil
      @gvrxil Місяць тому +3

      @@cenktuneygok8986 The video says otherwise.

  • @vaibhav_Jat
    @vaibhav_Jat Місяць тому +2

  • @-3ccis534
    @-3ccis534 Місяць тому +1

    LET'S GOOO FINALLY

  • @Yasa5na
    @Yasa5na Місяць тому +2

    Ancestors of Indo-Aryans

    • @didymussumydid9726
      @didymussumydid9726 Місяць тому

      How Andronovo relates to Sintashta?

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому +4

      @@didymussumydid9726 YDNA and mtDNA interaction, it autosomally Sintashta + ANE, so both were proto-Indo-Iranian speaking population

    • @cvds1675
      @cvds1675 Місяць тому

      The Aryans are not related to the Andronovo because the L657 subclade found in the Aryans is not present in the Andronovo.

    • @BinitBhushanDas
      @BinitBhushanDas Місяць тому

      ​​@@cvds1675The Aryans very much were related to Andronovo by austonomal dna though you are right R1a L657 is from unknown culture who were genetically related to Andronovo and Sinthasta. It only contributed to Vedic Aryans though. Iranic Aryans have very high sinthasta paternal Ancestry.

    • @cvds1675
      @cvds1675 Місяць тому

      ​@@BinitBhushanDas who is the iranic aryans ?

  • @alwaysright3943
    @alwaysright3943 Місяць тому +6

    My ancestors 🤓

    • @ammonitida
      @ammonitida Місяць тому

      you're indian?

    • @alwaysright3943
      @alwaysright3943 Місяць тому +1

      @@ammonitida Iranian

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому

      ​@@alwaysright3943Iranians are descendants of the indigenous peoples of Zagros and not nomads from the Transoxiana region

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому

      ​@@alwaysright3943What is your ethnicity?

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@ammonitidaOnly Tajiks are true Aryans

  • @polatism1
    @polatism1 Місяць тому +6

    MY ANCESTORS 🇦🇫🇮🇷🇹🇯

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +1

      Tajiks are not Persians

    • @vaibhav_Jat
      @vaibhav_Jat Місяць тому +3

      Only pamiris,jats and ror from india not your bro

    • @hardcoreblackpilled8699
      @hardcoreblackpilled8699 Місяць тому +5

      Yes your ancestors were white aryan males
      You are brown though

    • @polatism1
      @polatism1 Місяць тому +2

      @@hardcoreblackpilled8699 In the original, Indo-Europeans were not white, but they became so after mating with Globular Amphora women.

    • @polatism1
      @polatism1 Місяць тому +1

      @@ibrohimh9976 Tajiks, Persians, peoples like Kurds are Iranic peoples.

  • @santiagodelpilar6701
    @santiagodelpilar6701 Місяць тому +3

    This is another proof for The Andronovo Theory about The Origins of Indoeuropeans!

    • @radiozelaza
      @radiozelaza Місяць тому +3

      you got it backwards

    • @santiagodelpilar6701
      @santiagodelpilar6701 Місяць тому

      @@radiozelaza Khazars Originated from Ashkenazis? 🤔

    • @-3ccis534
      @-3ccis534 Місяць тому +2

      The androvorno culture came from the Indo-Europeans.

    • @santiagodelpilar6701
      @santiagodelpilar6701 Місяць тому +1

      @@-3ccis534 so, Indoeuropeans didn't came from The North but from The South

    • @-3ccis534
      @-3ccis534 Місяць тому

      @@santiagodelpilar6701 The Indo-Europeans or the people who considered to be the ancestors of all indo europeans lived in the North Caucasian region and between the ural mountain and Ukraine

  • @fewthefearlessjat3938
    @fewthefearlessjat3938 Місяць тому +1

    Mostly yamnaya Samara 💀>+ G_amp

  • @SimonCende-ms7fr
    @SimonCende-ms7fr Місяць тому +1

    Do DNA of Hungarians

  • @serkankinden5150
    @serkankinden5150 Місяць тому +1

    Too intermixed, I am really surprised. I was thinking that andronovo was very close to turkic, but I see not so similar in features. Just hazel/brown eyed, snub nosed, wavy/straight haired, olive/light brown skin toned ones may be related to turkic people.
    I am really surprised that andronovo has so much colored eyes. But on the other hand, short height and autism possibilty is so specific to east eurasians who are more capable on horseback riding and different in face shape. Is it possible to be half turkic?

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Місяць тому +1

      Turkic people were half European and half East Asian. There is no such thing as a pure Turkic race.

    • @serkankinden5150
      @serkankinden5150 Місяць тому +1

      @@matrixxx3662 Yes, but if we speak about andronovo, it is far late. Andronovo is related to scythians, huns and these are related to modern turkic people eventough all these cultures are multiracial in autosomal distribution.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Місяць тому

      @@serkankinden5150 Scythian were mixed but Androvo and Sintashta were not. They descended of proto Indo-Europeans like Yamanya and Corded Ware. Scythian have some Turkic Influnce but genetically they are Indo-Europeans as well.

    • @serkankinden5150
      @serkankinden5150 Місяць тому +1

      @@matrixxx3662 Andronovo is Sintashta + Afanasievo mixture. But, we cant say them indoeuropean. First of all, there is no ethnicity named indoeuropean, it is language family.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Місяць тому

      @@serkankinden5150 True. They are mix. But they have no East Asian dna. Their mixture is from Europe and Caucaus.

  • @ParthianSpirit
    @ParthianSpirit Місяць тому +4

    They look russian

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому +2

      @@ParthianSpirit Untill you explore India and Central Asia, you'll call it Russian and Swedish lol 🤣 collect some money and leave Middle East for some days, there are millions of Indo-Iranians looking like this ( darker maybe due to sun )

    • @ParthianSpirit
      @ParthianSpirit Місяць тому +9

      @Yasa5na there arent millions of iranians and indians looking like this. Stop with the whitewash. Being brown is okay

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому +1

      @@ParthianSpirit population of India is over 1.5 billion, here strict endogamy caused some features of them preserved, I can't tell about others but 1 out of 3 Upper Caste people look Whitoid, darker skin tone and facial features are different thing, I just meant Nordid features not palest skin tone which is rare. We are mix of West and Southern components, the Western component is mainly Iran Neolithic and Steppe

    • @ShivanshTripathi-p3z
      @ShivanshTripathi-p3z Місяць тому +3

      ​@@Yasa5na
      Could agree on central Asia. In India fewer amount of people have Aryan phenotype.
      But we should always keep in mind that both India and central Asia are both extremely diverse

    • @ShivanshTripathi-p3z
      @ShivanshTripathi-p3z Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Yasa5na
      Bro, You're Indian?

  • @ibrohimh9976
    @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +2

    My ancestors

  • @ibrohimh9976
    @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому +3

    only Tajiks are descendants of Andronov and the Bactrian-Margian archaeological Complex

    • @reginaldmercer2964
      @reginaldmercer2964 Місяць тому +6

      I'm pretty sure all Iranian speakers have at least some Andronovo ancestry, though its true that Tajiks have the highest amount by a substantial degree. IIRC Tajiks and Pamiris are on top at 35-40%, Pashtuns next at 30-35%

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому +2

      R1a-Z93/94 found among all the Indo-Iranian speaking populations, Indo-Aryan people have the highest amount of pure Steppe DNA

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Місяць тому +3

      ​@@reginaldmercer2964 No Pashtun score 30% kek, normal Tajiks are 30%, Pamiris are 40% that's all

    • @shane1948
      @shane1948 Місяць тому +1

      @@Dirlik_Agaci You should see the pure Tajiks in China, they don't look Mongol

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Місяць тому

      @@Dirlik_Agaci 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣