Thank you Luis, I’m new to MTG Limited and just completed my 4 draft; going 7&2. That’s after my first 3 drafts not getting above 3 wins. After watching a few of your videos my card evaluation is improving.
I found myself in a similar situation against Moria Marauder in the finals of my pre-release. Game 3 they got it up and tempted it turn 3. I had a bowmaster in the deck along with 5 other removals spells and just never got them in time to beat the value train
That UG deck was absolutely insane, it's a good thing he insisted on attacking for literally no reason all the time when the trades were obvious and terrible for them.
42:39 Why not bring back haunt, block both and make the haunt your ring bearer, and nasty end on your next turn. Even birthday escape uses a blue so they can’t hold up trickery. What am I missing?
my first mtga draft with this set was also with this land, I got that 4 color Aragorn dude and decided to try it, and splashing some other decent off color legends, with a few land cyclers it went pretty well, 7-1
Passed a shadowfax a couple of times after going in on the great hall plan; just fyi, one great hall can cast any two color legend - including shadowfax!
I'm seriously wondering if it's replaced Dark Confidant as the best black 2-drop. Bob is good vs. control, combo, and usually against midrange. But he's awful against aggro. Bowmasters is just good every day of the week.
I come from the future (September 2024) and LSV just released a top 50 Vintage Cube first picks rating Orcish Bowmasters the second best creature in the cube; so I'm gonna guess the orc with a bow wins this contest.
Fresh haircut is looking sharp! The fact that I noticed makes me appreciate how frequently you are posting content. Enjoying your commentary on the LOTR draft videos so far---keep 'em coming!
At around 19:41 why did your Orcish Bowmasters do 2 damage? He only drew one card. The second point came from their discard? I didn't follow this. I loved it BUT don't understand the ruling.....
The first damage is tied to their ETB. Everything else is from additional draws. Yes, the FLOOR for this card is a pair of 1/1s with flash and 1 damage anywhere for 1B.
Well, now you know why the Eagles didn't want to fly into Mordor. Sauron's got that anti-air posted up and ready. They're probably the same guys that sniped poor Boromir.
The bow lads are clearly a little bit pushed, probably slightly too strong compared to the rest of the limited format, but like making them mythic isn't the best solution. It is not a card that feels good to play against however, it usually immediately 2 or 3 for 1's you and then blanks a bunch of other cards in your hand and deck. I strongly dislike the card in limited.
dunno who thought that a 2 mana single color pip creature that one sidedly punishes the strongest thing you can do in magic by letting you send pings to the face or creatures AND puts an increasingly large body on the board needed flash lol. This is opposition agent levels of groan and is going in close to every black pioneer deck I make
@@chronoarms4821 it's clearly the pushed card made for Modern/Legacy in the set. It's a clean answer to most popular 1 drops in those formats as well as a threat, so yeah. Luckily it's not Pioneer legal (but it is Historic legal I suppose)
Would love to also see some drafts that dont go the distance for various reasons (concept that didnt work out, rough draft pool). Brings some authenticity and suspense to the vids!
He went 1-3 three LOTR draft videos ago with the GW food deck. Black is just completely OP in this set, so if you want to see people lose watch when they draft Green and non-black.
@@HawthorneLTD yah fair point. Maybe more similar in that regard do ragavan. Ridiculously strong but more a slow powerful card versus an outright total bomb. Different type of card to oko as well
oko isn't even a magic card, it's just in a world of its own. But in terms of gross magic cards that are far too good and playable anywhere? bowmasters is very silly
Orcish bowmasters against opponents who don't draw a second card is a good card, but not totally busted and probably won't win you a game outright. Because the format is pretty aggressive, i've had to play this on curve often enough that it just dings a single creature. As more people realize how bad blue is in this set, fewer people draw second cards outside of looting via ring tier 2. There is some card draw in white and black but its much harder to hold on to the bowmasters to ding them for card draw because you have to play around that possibility but if you do and they don't have it you risk getting behind. The times where i've had to play bowmasters without dinging someone for card draw is way more than where i got to hit someone for card draw. Oko is truly busted and will win the game on its own without any situational set up.
I am still at the "will-you-hover-over-all-uncommons-level" of familiarity with this format. The slower you go and the more you explain--even if it sounds dumb-- is helpful. I see there appears to be an additional audience that you are talking to offscreen that you are catering to live. They seem super familiar with the set already. I've been the smart kid in the class. I don't mind when the teacher slows it down for all of us to learn.
Most of these videos don't have an additional audience. They're not pulled from his stream, they're just made for UA-cam. This is one such video. If you're still confused on the cards, you could also check out his Limited Resources episodes on these cards.
This is truly the golden age of LSV content
Thank you Luis, I’m new to MTG Limited and just completed my 4 draft; going 7&2. That’s after my first 3 drafts not getting above 3 wins. After watching a few of your videos my card evaluation is improving.
you win some, you lose some... it's fine :) we can learn a lot from the pros, but don't have too high expectations for yourself please!
yeah, I hadn't played limited for 5 years and then got 7&2 on my first sealed thanks to the power of these videos! they own!
Proud of you brother, welcome to one of the best formats in all of magic. You'll love it here!
I had two bow masters in my prerelease pool. Flashing both of them in response to the draw 3 card was filthy
Sir, I’m gonna have to turn you in to the authorities 🚨
Why not just cast 1? They do be Legendary
@@youbluethatone1017 But they arent?
@@youbluethatone1017 ??????? what are you smoking?
@@jwellington7960😊
Never realized how I needed to hear LSV say "throwin' them bows" until I watched this video.
"I dont want to draw bowmasters, cos I want to win without them" - the last words before drawing bowmasters
"How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man" into the snap concede, priceless lmao.
I think that Grey Hall is underrated at the moment so much of this format is legendary
I’m definitely seeing it passed to me less and less as time goes by lol.
I found myself in a similar situation against Moria Marauder in the finals of my pre-release. Game 3 they got it up and tempted it turn 3. I had a bowmaster in the deck along with 5 other removals spells and just never got them in time to beat the value train
This has been my favorite format to watch you draft in awhile. Keep it up!
That UG deck was absolutely insane, it's a good thing he insisted on attacking for literally no reason all the time when the trades were obvious and terrible for them.
42:39 Why not bring back haunt, block both and make the haunt your ring bearer, and nasty end on your next turn. Even birthday escape uses a blue so they can’t hold up trickery. What am I missing?
my first mtga draft with this set was also with this land, I got that 4 color Aragorn dude and decided to try it, and splashing some other decent off color legends, with a few land cyclers it went pretty well, 7-1
Passed a shadowfax a couple of times after going in on the great hall plan; just fyi, one great hall can cast any two color legend - including shadowfax!
Bow masters beating the elf deck was probably the best and most hilarious flavor fail I've ever seen in mtg
The man quotes "Thank You". Perfect song for you LSV
Fun draft and games! Ty for your vids you are my fav streamer/player and I enjoy seeing the gameplay and draft IQ.
1:16:50 made was a really good prediction of the next card to come :D
22:46- lets choose our words carefully please. This is a family friendly channel.
Bowmaster seems like a potential legacy card. Flashing it in as a response to brainstorm seems like a play that could swing a game.
Seems like a ton of cards from this set could make their way into cube at least.
I'm playing 4 waiting for that 1st Grislebrand activation from my reanimator opponent
It already is. Heavily played too. Had a small legacy tournament yesterday and there were 6 decks running it main.
I'm seriously wondering if it's replaced Dark Confidant as the best black 2-drop. Bob is good vs. control, combo, and usually against midrange. But he's awful against aggro. Bowmasters is just good every day of the week.
I come from the future (September 2024) and LSV just released a top 50 Vintage Cube first picks rating Orcish Bowmasters the second best creature in the cube; so I'm gonna guess the orc with a bow wins this contest.
Great draft.
Would like to see you force a food deck or a red-green deck as they seem to quite underdrafted, perhaps because they are weak.
Your logo is so awesome!!! Hahaha
A bunch of legends or one shooty boi?
Thank you so much for your draft content! Loving it!
Love the new channel. That logo is 🔥🔥
Fresh haircut is looking sharp! The fact that I noticed makes me appreciate how frequently you are posting content. Enjoying your commentary on the LOTR draft videos so far---keep 'em coming!
At around 19:41 why did your Orcish Bowmasters do 2 damage? He only drew one card. The second point came from their discard? I didn't follow this. I loved it BUT don't understand the ruling.....
The first damage is tied to their ETB. Everything else is from additional draws.
Yes, the FLOOR for this card is a pair of 1/1s with flash and 1 damage anywhere for 1B.
the ability triggers when it enters the battlefield too
Orcish bowman is canonically the strongest unit in middle earth.
@@aethertechWhere's their card then, huh?
Canonically, it is the last thing an Errand-Rider of Gondor would want to see…
@aethertech And how do they fare vs wheel of fortune?
Well, now you know why the Eagles didn't want to fly into Mordor. Sauron's got that anti-air posted up and ready. They're probably the same guys that sniped poor Boromir.
This was a very instructive draft
The bow lads are clearly a little bit pushed, probably slightly too strong compared to the rest of the limited format, but like making them mythic isn't the best solution. It is not a card that feels good to play against however, it usually immediately 2 or 3 for 1's you and then blanks a bunch of other cards in your hand and deck. I strongly dislike the card in limited.
Can you try for the blue green elf scry deck?
What this set really shows us is Bill the Pony kills any of the ringbearers and Orcish Bowmasters got Legolas on fraud watch.
The more I watch, the more I'm convinced the orcish bowmasters should have been in charge of shit if Sauron had a lick of sense.
Faramir has a surprisingly atrocious 17 lands winrate. Just putting it out there
Bowmasters on the other hand... absolutely absurd WR
I don't quite understand why LSV constantly get's more views than subscribers. I feel that's quite rare?
Orcish "360 no scope 420" Bowmaster
Orcish Bowmasters sure is one hell of a magic card
dunno who thought that a 2 mana single color pip creature that one sidedly punishes the strongest thing you can do in magic by letting you send pings to the face or creatures AND puts an increasingly large body on the board needed flash lol. This is opposition agent levels of groan and is going in close to every black pioneer deck I make
@@chronoarms4821 It's not legal in Pioneer
@@chronoarms4821 it's clearly the pushed card made for Modern/Legacy in the set. It's a clean answer to most popular 1 drops in those formats as well as a threat, so yeah.
Luckily it's not Pioneer legal (but it is Historic legal I suppose)
Double Gollum is a great way to easily get the ring to level 4, since you can chain them together with it's sac ability.
I think you're very much undervaluing Berserker
Seeing Denethor against Boromir after Faramir died was unexpected
Is daily upload lsv content the new definition of "popping off"?
Opened 2 bowmasters at prerelease. Build BW as well. Haven't lost a single game.
I've played a lot of MTG in my life but, I've never played what LSV is playing
Felt like you needed to cut an island for a swamp
Why do you call Gollum golem?
been loving LOTR x MTG atm the ring has really been carrying me atm so powerful
Not taking shadowfax...explain
Would love to also see some drafts that dont go the distance for various reasons (concept that didnt work out, rough draft pool). Brings some authenticity and suspense to the vids!
He went 1-3 three LOTR draft videos ago with the GW food deck. Black is just completely OP in this set, so if you want to see people lose watch when they draft Green and non-black.
Game 5 was incredible
What on earth was this incredible draft
Love the content, keep it coming!
Orcish Bowmasters is a commander card that they for some reason printed in the main set. That thing simply should not be legal in draft.
how do you think orcish bowmasters compares to a card like Oko in terms of strength relative to most of the other cards in the set
Not even close. Oko was fucked. Bowmasters is good, but relies upon your opponents for additional value. Oko just won by himself.
@@HawthorneLTD yah fair point. Maybe more similar in that regard do ragavan. Ridiculously strong but more a slow powerful card versus an outright total bomb. Different type of card to oko as well
oko isn't even a magic card, it's just in a world of its own. But in terms of gross magic cards that are far too good and playable anywhere? bowmasters is very silly
Orcish bowmasters against opponents who don't draw a second card is a good card, but not totally busted and probably won't win you a game outright. Because the format is pretty aggressive, i've had to play this on curve often enough that it just dings a single creature. As more people realize how bad blue is in this set, fewer people draw second cards outside of looting via ring tier 2. There is some card draw in white and black but its much harder to hold on to the bowmasters to ding them for card draw because you have to play around that possibility but if you do and they don't have it you risk getting behind. The times where i've had to play bowmasters without dinging someone for card draw is way more than where i got to hit someone for card draw. Oko is truly busted and will win the game on its own without any situational set up.
sick build
to be fair:
TWO orcs with bows.
sweet deck.
Very GOD!!! 👍👍👍
I've got a bad feeling about the number of islands here, but deck looks sweeeet otherwise
I am still at the "will-you-hover-over-all-uncommons-level" of familiarity with this format. The slower you go and the more you explain--even if it sounds dumb-- is helpful. I see there appears to be an additional audience that you are talking to offscreen that you are catering to live. They seem super familiar with the set already. I've been the smart kid in the class. I don't mind when the teacher slows it down for all of us to learn.
Most of these videos don't have an additional audience. They're not pulled from his stream, they're just made for UA-cam. This is one such video. If you're still confused on the cards, you could also check out his Limited Resources episodes on these cards.
I really think Bow Masters is the best card in the set - that is crazy
That bowmasters play on turn 3 in the first game is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in any mtg game so far
Dropping Bows Indeed
Elrond's Appiphany
OrcS with bowS, in large quantities. Obviously.
Was anyone else thinking he should have picked up Shadowfax?
Neigh
@@ZeroIsEven Noice.
Apparently the guy that said " fog of the barrens sucks " was right lmao.
Engagement
What a terrible mechanic "The Ring Tempts You" is...
The skulk ability is the big issue, that you can just put it on a 1 power creature with upside and then it ignores the board.
orcish bowmaster is busted
Dara it was the wrong p1p1. Eomer is WAY BETTER
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Calling now bowmaster will see bannings
@@zebusaqua4415it's gonna be great in cedh, but i bet they are not gonna ban it from commander just because of cedh
@@zebusaqua4415well, of course not. This set isn't legal in Standard at all
@@zebusaqua4415 the set isn't standard legal so
Obviously LSV Lost to RB