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Who Would Win? A Bunch of Legends or an Orc With a Bow? | Lord of the Rings | LOTR Draft | MTGA

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2023
  • I got to achieve multiple dreams with this disgusting draft deck, up to and including playing with the best card in the set. Come for the Orcish Bowmasters, stay for the Great Hall double splash.
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  • @TheGoldenHorncall
    @TheGoldenHorncall Рік тому +139

    This is truly the golden age of LSV content

  • @pdt1060
    @pdt1060 Рік тому +54

    I had two bow masters in my prerelease pool. Flashing both of them in response to the draw 3 card was filthy

  • @madamscrypto5375
    @madamscrypto5375 Рік тому +39

    Thank you Luis, I’m new to MTG Limited and just completed my 4 draft; going 7&2. That’s after my first 3 drafts not getting above 3 wins. After watching a few of your videos my card evaluation is improving.

    • @felity1773
      @felity1773 Рік тому +3

      you win some, you lose some... it's fine :) we can learn a lot from the pros, but don't have too high expectations for yourself please!

    • @flaminghito
      @flaminghito Рік тому +3

      yeah, I hadn't played limited for 5 years and then got 7&2 on my first sealed thanks to the power of these videos! they own!

    • @jonathanlopez332
      @jonathanlopez332 Рік тому +1

      Proud of you brother, welcome to one of the best formats in all of magic. You'll love it here!

  • @Falnky
    @Falnky 11 місяців тому +1

    Never realized how I needed to hear LSV say "throwin' them bows" until I watched this video.

  • @xiaoxinghuli
    @xiaoxinghuli Рік тому +2

    "I dont want to draw bowmasters, cos I want to win without them" - the last words before drawing bowmasters

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 Рік тому +9

    I think that Grey Hall is underrated at the moment so much of this format is legendary

    • @detalores
      @detalores Рік тому

      I’m definitely seeing it passed to me less and less as time goes by lol.

  • @Jermo484
    @Jermo484 Рік тому +7

    That UG deck was absolutely insane, it's a good thing he insisted on attacking for literally no reason all the time when the trades were obvious and terrible for them.

  • @Seidren
    @Seidren Рік тому +1

    This has been my favorite format to watch you draft in awhile. Keep it up!

  • @Sephiroth0X
    @Sephiroth0X Рік тому +1

    Bow masters beating the elf deck was probably the best and most hilarious flavor fail I've ever seen in mtg

  • @dylansies9943
    @dylansies9943 Рік тому

    "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man" into the snap concede, priceless lmao.

  • @Blackadder75
    @Blackadder75 Рік тому +2

    my first mtga draft with this set was also with this land, I got that 4 color Aragorn dude and decided to try it, and splashing some other decent off color legends, with a few land cyclers it went pretty well, 7-1

  • @StrelokGames
    @StrelokGames Рік тому

    Thank you so much for your draft content! Loving it!

  • @AndresSheehan-gn3yk
    @AndresSheehan-gn3yk Рік тому

    The man quotes "Thank You". Perfect song for you LSV

  • @lorenzohot5234
    @lorenzohot5234 Рік тому

    Fun draft and games! Ty for your vids you are my fav streamer/player and I enjoy seeing the gameplay and draft IQ.

  • @tomcadden8054
    @tomcadden8054 Рік тому +1

    I found myself in a similar situation against Moria Marauder in the finals of my pre-release. Game 3 they got it up and tempted it turn 3. I had a bowmaster in the deck along with 5 other removals spells and just never got them in time to beat the value train

  • @Lilelac
    @Lilelac Рік тому +1

    Your logo is so awesome!!! Hahaha

  • @larsice9
    @larsice9 Рік тому +4

    1:16:50 made was a really good prediction of the next card to come :D

  • @Belthazar1113
    @Belthazar1113 Рік тому +8

    Bowmaster seems like a potential legacy card. Flashing it in as a response to brainstorm seems like a play that could swing a game.

    • @joshyaash
      @joshyaash Рік тому

      Seems like a ton of cards from this set could make their way into cube at least.

    • @janthomassen9577
      @janthomassen9577 Рік тому +8

      I'm playing 4 waiting for that 1st Grislebrand activation from my reanimator opponent

    • @SarcoZQ
      @SarcoZQ Рік тому +3

      It already is. Heavily played too. Had a small legacy tournament yesterday and there were 6 decks running it main.

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali Рік тому

      I'm seriously wondering if it's replaced Dark Confidant as the best black 2-drop. Bob is good vs. control, combo, and usually against midrange. But he's awful against aggro. Bowmasters is just good every day of the week.

  • @armanesteghamat589
    @armanesteghamat589 Рік тому +1

    Passed a shadowfax a couple of times after going in on the great hall plan; just fyi, one great hall can cast any two color legend - including shadowfax!

  • @garagavia
    @garagavia Рік тому

    This was a very instructive draft

  • @roarmalf
    @roarmalf Рік тому

    Love the content, keep it coming!

  • @TheWeepingSeraph
    @TheWeepingSeraph Рік тому

    Love the new channel. That logo is 🔥🔥

  • @sanctuarygaming4984
    @sanctuarygaming4984 Рік тому

    Orcish "360 no scope 420" Bowmaster

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 Рік тому

    Great draft.
    Would like to see you force a food deck or a red-green deck as they seem to quite underdrafted, perhaps because they are weak.

  • @rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser
    @rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser Рік тому +1

    22:46- lets choose our words carefully please. This is a family friendly channel.

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 Рік тому +5

    Orcish bowman is canonically the strongest unit in middle earth.

    • @Fiasko-
      @Fiasko- Рік тому

      ​@@aethertechWhere's their card then, huh?

    • @thrawncaedusl717
      @thrawncaedusl717 Рік тому +2

      Canonically, it is the last thing an Errand-Rider of Gondor would want to see…

    • @bigwig8657
      @bigwig8657 Рік тому

      @aethertech And how do they fare vs wheel of fortune?

    • @blackdog9698919
      @blackdog9698919 Рік тому +3

      Well, now you know why the Eagles didn't want to fly into Mordor. Sauron's got that anti-air posted up and ready. They're probably the same guys that sniped poor Boromir.

  • @vy1585
    @vy1585 Рік тому +1

    Faramir has a surprisingly atrocious 17 lands winrate. Just putting it out there
    Bowmasters on the other hand... absolutely absurd WR

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 Рік тому +1

    What this set really shows us is Bill the Pony kills any of the ringbearers and Orcish Bowmasters got Legolas on fraud watch.

    • @bigwig8657
      @bigwig8657 Рік тому +2

      The more I watch, the more I'm convinced the orcish bowmasters should have been in charge of shit if Sauron had a lick of sense.

  • @alexandercato7400
    @alexandercato7400 Рік тому

    Fresh haircut is looking sharp! The fact that I noticed makes me appreciate how frequently you are posting content. Enjoying your commentary on the LOTR draft videos so far---keep 'em coming!

  • @dylanm.4875
    @dylanm.4875 Рік тому +7

    The bow lads are clearly a little bit pushed, probably slightly too strong compared to the rest of the limited format, but like making them mythic isn't the best solution. It is not a card that feels good to play against however, it usually immediately 2 or 3 for 1's you and then blanks a bunch of other cards in your hand and deck. I strongly dislike the card in limited.

  • @glazed95
    @glazed95 Рік тому

    Double Gollum is a great way to easily get the ring to level 4, since you can chain them together with it's sac ability.

  • @omologo95
    @omologo95 Рік тому +2

    Orcish Bowmasters sure is one hell of a magic card

    • @chronoarms4821
      @chronoarms4821 Рік тому +1

      dunno who thought that a 2 mana single color pip creature that one sidedly punishes the strongest thing you can do in magic by letting you send pings to the face or creatures AND puts an increasingly large body on the board needed flash lol. This is opposition agent levels of groan and is going in close to every black pioneer deck I make

    • @jonathanwest2770
      @jonathanwest2770 Рік тому +1

      @@chronoarms4821 It's not legal in Pioneer

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 Рік тому

      @@chronoarms4821 it's clearly the pushed card made for Modern/Legacy in the set. It's a clean answer to most popular 1 drops in those formats as well as a threat, so yeah.
      Luckily it's not Pioneer legal (but it is Historic legal I suppose)

  • @armanesteghamat589
    @armanesteghamat589 Рік тому

    42:39 Why not bring back haunt, block both and make the haunt your ring bearer, and nasty end on your next turn. Even birthday escape uses a blue so they can’t hold up trickery. What am I missing?

  • @GME_Patriot
    @GME_Patriot Рік тому

    Game 5 was incredible

  • @isaakbrummund1870
    @isaakbrummund1870 Рік тому +1

    Can you try for the blue green elf scry deck?

  • @yuushaex
    @yuushaex Рік тому

    been loving LOTR x MTG atm the ring has really been carrying me atm so powerful

  • @thisjustin7492
    @thisjustin7492 Рік тому

    sweet deck.

  • @jorgereyna8788
    @jorgereyna8788 Рік тому

    Felt like you needed to cut an island for a swamp

  • @EForbsey
    @EForbsey Рік тому

    sick build

  • @KatzIzzbored
    @KatzIzzbored Рік тому

    What on earth was this incredible draft

  • @edoardodestefanisgallo
    @edoardodestefanisgallo Рік тому

    Seeing Denethor against Boromir after Faramir died was unexpected

  • @DrunkHobbit
    @DrunkHobbit Рік тому

    Opened 2 bowmasters at prerelease. Build BW as well. Haven't lost a single game.

  • @BloodyFox1
    @BloodyFox1 Рік тому

    I think you're very much undervaluing Berserker

  • @peterscutti7078
    @peterscutti7078 Рік тому

    I've played a lot of MTG in my life but, I've never played what LSV is playing

  • @kevincressman1267
    @kevincressman1267 Рік тому

    Is daily upload lsv content the new definition of "popping off"?

  • @gustavonascimento1373
    @gustavonascimento1373 Рік тому

    Very GOD!!! 👍👍👍

  • @brandonsims2096
    @brandonsims2096 Рік тому

    Dropping Bows Indeed

  • @MaZe741
    @MaZe741 Рік тому +1

    to be fair:
    TWO orcs with bows.

  • @Juddersbaby1
    @Juddersbaby1 Рік тому +1

    I don't quite understand why LSV constantly get's more views than subscribers. I feel that's quite rare?

  • @tomsmith4698
    @tomsmith4698 Рік тому

    Elrond's Appiphany

  • @marknicklason
    @marknicklason Рік тому

    I've got a bad feeling about the number of islands here, but deck looks sweeeet otherwise

  • @ForrestHanson
    @ForrestHanson Рік тому

    A bunch of legends or one shooty boi?

  • @netraam3
    @netraam3 Рік тому

    Not taking shadowfax...explain

  • @REALMKANG
    @REALMKANG Рік тому

    Would love to also see some drafts that dont go the distance for various reasons (concept that didnt work out, rough draft pool). Brings some authenticity and suspense to the vids!

    • @TheEpicSceptic
      @TheEpicSceptic Рік тому +4

      He went 1-3 three LOTR draft videos ago with the GW food deck. Black is just completely OP in this set, so if you want to see people lose watch when they draft Green and non-black.

  • @benjamincarter6095
    @benjamincarter6095 Рік тому

    OrcS with bowS, in large quantities. Obviously.

  • @Ninjamanhammer
    @Ninjamanhammer Рік тому

    Why do you call Gollum golem?

  • @vacantvisionary
    @vacantvisionary Рік тому

    Orcish Bowmasters is a commander card that they for some reason printed in the main set. That thing simply should not be legal in draft.

  • @romantheflash
    @romantheflash Рік тому

    I really think Bow Masters is the best card in the set - that is crazy

  • @AndresSheehan-gn3yk
    @AndresSheehan-gn3yk Рік тому

    At around 19:41 why did your Orcish Bowmasters do 2 damage? He only drew one card. The second point came from their discard? I didn't follow this. I loved it BUT don't understand the ruling.....

    • @Vyolynce
      @Vyolynce Рік тому +3

      The first damage is tied to their ETB. Everything else is from additional draws.
      Yes, the FLOOR for this card is a pair of 1/1s with flash and 1 damage anywhere for 1B.

    • @legochickenguy4938
      @legochickenguy4938 Рік тому +1

      the ability triggers when it enters the battlefield too

  • @elliotcram5452
    @elliotcram5452 Рік тому +1

    how do you think orcish bowmasters compares to a card like Oko in terms of strength relative to most of the other cards in the set

    • @HawthorneLTD
      @HawthorneLTD Рік тому +6

      Not even close. Oko was fucked. Bowmasters is good, but relies upon your opponents for additional value. Oko just won by himself.

    • @elliotcram5452
      @elliotcram5452 Рік тому

      @@HawthorneLTD yah fair point. Maybe more similar in that regard do ragavan. Ridiculously strong but more a slow powerful card versus an outright total bomb. Different type of card to oko as well

    • @SuperbFairy
      @SuperbFairy Рік тому +2

      oko isn't even a magic card, it's just in a world of its own. But in terms of gross magic cards that are far too good and playable anywhere? bowmasters is very silly

    • @videouploader9602
      @videouploader9602 Рік тому +1

      Orcish bowmasters against opponents who don't draw a second card is a good card, but not totally busted and probably won't win you a game outright. Because the format is pretty aggressive, i've had to play this on curve often enough that it just dings a single creature. As more people realize how bad blue is in this set, fewer people draw second cards outside of looting via ring tier 2. There is some card draw in white and black but its much harder to hold on to the bowmasters to ding them for card draw because you have to play around that possibility but if you do and they don't have it you risk getting behind. The times where i've had to play bowmasters without dinging someone for card draw is way more than where i got to hit someone for card draw. Oko is truly busted and will win the game on its own without any situational set up.

  • @Dennis450D
    @Dennis450D Рік тому

    That bowmasters play on turn 3 in the first game is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in any mtg game so far

  • @irifhir
    @irifhir Рік тому

    Engagement

  • @ericz2195
    @ericz2195 Рік тому

    I am still at the "will-you-hover-over-all-uncommons-level" of familiarity with this format. The slower you go and the more you explain--even if it sounds dumb-- is helpful. I see there appears to be an additional audience that you are talking to offscreen that you are catering to live. They seem super familiar with the set already. I've been the smart kid in the class. I don't mind when the teacher slows it down for all of us to learn.

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 Рік тому

      Most of these videos don't have an additional audience. They're not pulled from his stream, they're just made for UA-cam. This is one such video. If you're still confused on the cards, you could also check out his Limited Resources episodes on these cards.

  • @thrawncaedusl717
    @thrawncaedusl717 Рік тому +3

    Was anyone else thinking he should have picked up Shadowfax?

  • @adamgreen6051
    @adamgreen6051 2 місяці тому

    !

  • @spooky_zen
    @spooky_zen Рік тому

    orcish bowmaster is busted

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet Рік тому

    What a terrible mechanic "The Ring Tempts You" is...

    • @MrTandtrollet
      @MrTandtrollet Рік тому

      The skulk ability is the big issue, that you can just put it on a 1 power creature with upside and then it ignores the board.

  • @youbluethatone1017
    @youbluethatone1017 Рік тому

    Dara it was the wrong p1p1. Eomer is WAY BETTER

  • @troyrussell177
    @troyrussell177 Рік тому

    Apparently the guy that said " fog of the barrens sucks " was right lmao.

  • @youbluethatone1017
    @youbluethatone1017 Рік тому

    Obviously LSV Lost to RB

  • @moleahjobe
    @moleahjobe Рік тому

    Calling now bowmaster will see bannings

    • @felity1773
      @felity1773 Рік тому

      ​@@zebusaqua4415it's gonna be great in cedh, but i bet they are not gonna ban it from commander just because of cedh

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 Рік тому

      ​@@zebusaqua4415well, of course not. This set isn't legal in Standard at all

    • @legochickenguy4938
      @legochickenguy4938 Рік тому

      @@zebusaqua4415 the set isn't standard legal so