Carenado Beechcraft Bonanza V35 | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we test out the Asobo / Carenado Beechcraft Bonanza V35 within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
The aircraft is number 3 in Asobo's "Famous Flyer" series and we'll be taking it on a flight from South Lake Tahoe airport (KTVL), up to Reno / Stead airport (KRTS), trying to find out what the Bonanza has to offer.
Please note this video and all it's contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
I've always had an eye for the v-tail Bonanza. Something about its looks captivated me when I was young. Apparently my great-grandfather felt the same way. He owned the infamous "Doctor Killer." It was bare metal with red trim. I have a black and white photo of him and my grandmother from when he picked it up new from the Beechcraft facility in Wichita, KS in 1947. He was an architectural engineer and would use it to hot shot around to various job sites. Just a few months later, he was returning home when weather conditions became solidly IFR. Inexperience combined with primitive 1940's navigational technology caused him to end up quite a ways off course and either out of fuel or confused on his location, he came down through the cloud layer and clipped into a tree, killing him instantly.
While I inherited his love for aviation, this (and finance reasons) are why I stick to simulators. I do use his tail number on my aircraft in the sim.
Nice tribute with the tail number.
Sigh already have meself a G36 and a Just Flight Arrow do I need a V35 and being burned by Carenado once bitten twice shy sooo what do you think.
@@mikecoffee100 It is definitely a Carenado plane for what that is worth. I've felt their more recent outputs have been much better but yeah, you still get the amazing visuals but a moderate flight model and sounds. It is unfortunate that they strip away the extras for the historic flyer series as I would have gladly paid $25 for it to have the extra depth that their Skymaster has. And for me, the Just Flight Arrows are still the king of the single-engine GA add-ons.
Though for $15, I do not feel ripped off and I haven't noticed any bugs or things not working properly. My one complaint is that it feels a bit sterile to fly compared to their D18, though I can't really comment to the accuracy of the flight model. It feels "pleasant." I do find myself rolling it out of the hanger fairly often and it has just enough system depth for my standards. And man, it looks gorgeous from the external view when flying in front of a sunset. Overall, I am happy with my purchase. I do have a connection to this particular plane so that does boost my enthusiasm for the product.
@@rustyshackleford1687 great response Thank You
Hi Rusty,
Thanks for sharing your story - very sorry to hear about your great-grandfather; as Hiortintexas mentions, a nice little tribute there on the tail number. If memory serves me correctly, the Carenado Bonanza does in fact come with a bare-metal / red trim paint scheme, so hopefully you can do one or two flights in his honour : )
Happy flying and all the best!
For the price - it was a sentimental purchase - I looked on my old PPL - and I was endorsed on the V35 -- April 24 1974😉
Ah well I think in that case it’s a must Jay! ; )
Hopefully A2A will come along at some point and give us a Bonanza a little bit closer to the one you flew, but for $15 one cant go too far wrong.
Happy flying! : )
Yeah, I don’t know what this UA-cam guy is bitching about
Hi Donovan,
I presume you’re referring to me, but I’m a bit perplexed, as I’m not sure what you feel I was “bitching” about during the video haha?
All the best
I can see my self flying this plane a lot, I seen many of these when I was a kid and fun fact. The MSFS senior community manager Jayne was engaged on board a V-Tail Bonanza with Shinji Maeda the 1 eyed Japanese pilot at the controls.
I dare say its had its share of the mile high club - or maybe the 10,000 Ft club.
Haha, well that’s all very sweet - congratulations to them! : )
I do hope you enjoy the Bonanza then ST - happy flying!
New subscriber, I’ve watched a few of your videos over the past month, always a very balanced and fair review 👍
Hi Tony,
Well thanks very much, I’m really glad you’ve been finding the content useful! Welcome aboard : )
Nice review once again and lovely scenery. I will add this one to my hangar. As you say, given the price the few things that are inop won't detract too much. It certainly looks the part as would be expected from Carenado.
Cheers Terry! I’m glad you enjoyed the video; the route is certainly well worth giving a go, rather scenic. Very typical output from Carenado and whilst that in itself seems to divide opinion, I feel I’ve gotten my money’s worth overall : )
Happy flying!
I just purchased this airplane a few hours ago. I don't have much to complain about, I think it is visually stunning as most Carenado products are. It's nice to fly and handles pretty much as I expected. As you mentioned the sound could be a bit better but I'm not too disappointed with it, and we don't have the tablet this time around. However, I like that the animated static wicks were included. I know its a small detail, but I just think it adds a touch more immersion. It would be nice to have a visual copilot in the right seat too. Anyway, I think it was worth the price. Nice review!
Hi NV,
I’m glad you’re enjoying the Bonanza and I agree with the points that you make. As you say, for the price I think it’s a fine little offering personally.
I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Thanks very much for watching and all the best! : )
Great flight. I live about 2 hours from So Lake Tahoe and go there 3 or 4 times a year. We drive by the airport all the time. Will have to give this flight a go. As I have said previously, I personally think you get a very solid aircraft from Carenado, especially for the money. Cheers! !! !!!
Cheers Mark, I’m glad you enjoyed it, Lake Tahoe certainly looks like a lovely area to visit!
Yes, many would disagree, but I’m always generally pretty happy with my Carenado purchases given the price haha.
Happy flying! : )
This is the 2nd one I've bought due to your vids, good value in the marketplace for twelve quid. Just tried a short flight from Leicester airport to East Midlands airport, nice n steady and flies well with the Velocity Once flight yoke and Saitek instrument panel. Cheers
Ah well I’m glad you’re enjoying the V35 then sir! Sounds like a nice little hop; I keep holding out for someone to do a decent payware East Mids, but no developer seems to have tackled it yet haha.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Always quality content - thanks ITB.
Thanks very much once again Haden! A pleasure as always : )
Thank you for another very informative demonstration ....These days I don't buy aircraft without viewing your appraisals a number of times to get a n honest and genuine feel for the product....In this case I will definitely be buying the Bonanza....Thank you again for your time....Roger...Pembrokeshire
Thank you, for another great review. This model will do, until A2A gets around to releasing their Accuflight Bonanza for MSFS…
We definitely need A2A in MSFS. Sure do miss their products.
My pleasure sir! Hehe, I think that hits the nail on the head for most of us; this V35 “will do” until A2A show up to the party ; )
Happy flying and all the best! : )
early on in MSFS i would prob buy this but Carenado is just to Arcade for me, they got exellent details on their aircrafts and beautiful textures but no wear and tear and always a bunch of INOPS. I really wish they would go a step further. Exellent video as always :)
Carenado have always been like this, good looking, not much else.
Yeah, that's their business. Very beautiful, but nothing below the Carenado (fairing).
Yeah fair enough GD, I know you won’t be the only one feeling this way and let’s be honest, we aren’t short of single-engine options in the sim at this point. Ultimately we’ll hopefully see the A2A Bonanza in MSFS at some point and needless to say it will make the Carenado version rather moot. As I always say in these videos, personally I don’t mind Carenado’s MSFS output thus far, but it is a real shame that they don’t put as much care and attention into other aspects of the aircraft, as they do with the visuals. If they did, they’d be on to a winner!
Thanks very much as always for watching - I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Cheers : )
Good morning! Fun and informative video as always.
This video's venue brings a lot of memories as I took my primary private pilot training out of KRNO and practiced numerous landings at Reno/Stead KRTS (4SD back when I was learning lol) as it is a good field with a long runway and in the afternoon, challenging wind conditions. I used to do a lot of scenic flights with friends over Tahoe and Incline Village, I really like that MSFS can offer scenery that pretty much looks like the real thing! As a kid growing up in Reno, we used to go to the Air Races every year as well.
The Bonanza looks okay but I am waiting for the upcoming A2A Comanche. This will set a new standard for sim A/C. I am usually ambivalent about Carenado products but I do really like the Cessna Skymaster and the earlier Mooney M20 they have released.
In lieu of A2A in the meantime, I find the Just Flight GA aircraft (All Warrior marks and the Archer) to be excellent and a great current sub for A2A's current absence from MSFS. The MilViz Twin Cessna is also excellent.
Happy flying and cheers 😀
Hello Andy,
Ahh well I’m happy that the video brought back some familiar memories! It looks like a beautiful area of the world to do some flying in.
Yes, I think many of us are still waiting on A2A haha (although the Comanche wouldn’t have been my first choice personally). Obviously Carenado can’t hold a candle to the likes of A2A, but I’ve been enjoying some of their output given the price (the Mooney and the Skymaster are indeed enjoyable in their own right). As you say, despite A2A not having shown up in MSFS just yet, we do have a plethora of nice choices at this point : )
Cheers again and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Thanks so much for the reply! I think my favorite overall A/C for virtual immersion is the fantastic Just Flight Hawk. That airplane has the sights, sounds, and experience that makes me smile every time I cyber-strap in and engage the starter. Thanks again for all your hard work and enjoyment of sims.
Cheers and happy flying,
nice review as always, enjoyed the flight, the plane and the scenery. I don’t have much bonding to this little v-tail so I think I will pass it. Arrow III is enough for me in the category. :) (in other words I’m now strong enough not to buy everything you make a video about :D)
Haha, I must be losing my touch Péter! : O
That’s fair enough though of course. We certainly aren’t short of single-engine GA aircraft in the sim. For the console, probably better off waiting for Just Flight to FINALLY release their Arrow family anyway hehe.
I’m glad you enjoyed the flight! Thanks as always : )
God! Isnt this sim so damn beautiful. Amazed at the scenery you flew today. I really like the plane. Bought the seneca V. Im really tempted to get this one too and buy the real poh
If you must get the plane it’s your choice, but the real POH will not be remotely close to how Carenado models their aircraft. You will likely find it to fly very close to your Senaca and that will show you how Carenado works.
Yea the seneca works well. I have to test it more. So far i got 2 flights on it. Gettimg used to the aircraft. I recently got a poh for the caravan and the king air 350. I cant wait for black square to release the instrument gauge version so i can try them out. I havent purchase the caravan 208 b yet
It certainly is Piloto! Yeah, I really enjoyed the route and highly recommend giving it a go, whether that’s with the Bonanza or otherwise : )
Happy flying and all the best!
i didnt even think about it i just bought it and love it. just seeing your video now thou haha
Haha, well I’m glad you’re enjoying the Bonanza Deathcrow! Thanks for watching the video all the same ; )
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Heeeey a new Carenado release! Awesome I love their planes!
Hehe, I hope you're enjoying the V35 then Julia!
Happy flying : )
Man how I wish Carenado would do proper sounds for their planes. I can live with the shallow depth of system simulation (fine for the price) but the sounds are bad. I have their Twin Beach and the throathy radials are barely audible, the mixing between the startup sounds and the idle sounds are an immersion ruining joke... it's just bad. They never update anything, too, so there's that. The Beech 18 has been out two months now and the autopilot is still dysfunctionnal for the rest of the flight if you flip the landing lights switch. And the fuel pump sounds way louder than both engines. It's a shame.
Thank you for the review, always a pleasure to watch them.
I agree Andrei, that for the types of aircraft Carenado have been producing of late, a good soundset is a must. They’ve had a couple of good efforts (the C170 and the Waco spring to mind), but their last couple of aircraft have been very “meh” in the sound department and the Beech 18 in particular was a real shame.
Personally I feel that Carenado’s product updates have been reasonable (though I seem to be in the minority there); there have been numerous updates for most of their products thus far. Unfortunately anything that is handed over to Asobo, seems to receive very little attention thereafter - I think the blame lies with both Asobo and the dev for that. I think the B18 will get fixed up, but 2 months without a fully functional autopilot is pretty poor.
My pleasure on the review! Thanks very much for watching once again : )
Fantastic review thankyou
Thank you once again sir, always a pleasure! I hope you’re keeping well : )
Just bought it and so far I'm really enjoying it. Looks fantastic and flies well, just the sounds that let it down. Overall well worth £12.49.
Ah great David, happy to hear that you’re enjoying it. The V35 isn’t perfect but as you say, for the cost of a couple of pints, you really can’t go too far wrong!
Happy flying and all the best : )
Cool plane, thanks for showing it off! Personally, I think I'm ok with this lacking the tablet. I think the "full-price" Carenado add-ons tend to push the price into a range where I'm going to want to be pickier about sounds, systems, etc., but $15 is an attractive price to add such a beautiful model of an iconic aircraft to my hangar.
Hi Alexander,
Cheers, my pleasure!
Fair enough. I know many feel the same way as you and I totally get it. Personally I like the extra functionality, as many of the aircraft Carenado create, will probably not see another version within the sim, but I completely agree that at this sort of price point, it does make some of the aircraft's shortcomings more palatable in general.
Either way, for $15 I'm very happy with what we have.
Thanks and all the best : )
Thank you for your excellent reviews. I like to watch them and I appreciate the little extras you put in your videos when you explain what's the purpose of your flight. These kind of background stories adds to the immersion, at least for me. So, thank you for your work. The question I have: I have noticed in some of your videos (e.g. this one, Kodiak 100, Twin Otter) talking on the radio. I guess it's ATC and I find it a pretty cool and immersive feature. A feature I would like to add to my MSFS, too. Can you please explain me how you did it? Thx and all the best.
Hi Simon, Not the channel owner - but I believe this is what you're looking for: www.stickandrudderstudios.com/fs-atc-chatter-overview/
@@BenAshley1977 Hi Ben, you are probably right there. Thanks for letting me know. Greetings.
Thanks for offering up the help Ben, much appreciated! : )
My absolute pleasure Simon, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the videos!
The ATC is actually real-world recordings from LiveATC.net, which I then edit into the video. As Ben points out, there is also an ATC chatter app available for MSFS, which would achieve very much the same effect (and everyone I’ve spoken to seems to rate the program pretty highly).
I hope that helps. Thanks very much and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your answer. I was curious how you did it. Maybe ATC chatter is the better choice for me as a user and not a content producer like you. Anyway, thank you for comming back to my question. By the way, I just bought the Airmacchi MB 339. Such a fun plane to fly. Thanks for the recommendation.
everybody loves a V-tail!
I like that the spin seems better then previous aircraft.
i don't lol ... only so many piper esque single engine monoplanes i can enjoy... seriously though its a bit samey
@@jennydavis4198
Well, it is better than the "overpriced small GA aircraft by minute manufacturer sim" we got with the first 20 default aircraft...
"everybody loves a V-tail!"
Eight of ten doctors agree! The other two will be heard from nevermore.
@@acratone8300 laughs
I shouldn’t laugh, but your comment did give me a chuckle Acra Tone haha.
All the best!
This aircraft is a wonder itself. I love the V tail. Beautiful flight ❤️
This is not the V tail version.
@@HARRRYVID what is it in your opinion ?
The V-tail is certainly a beautiful design classic isn’t it! I still can’t make my mind up about whether I actually like it haha, but there’s no denying that it’s a striking airframe.
I’m glad you enjoyed the flight. Thanks once again for watching : )
Nice
Thanks Jose, glad you liked it : )
All the best!
The widowmaker!!!!!!! I love it.
Haha, she’s not quite as speedy as the F-104, but apparently every bit as deadly (at least if you’re medically qualified)! ; )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The recent Asobo livestream featured the Carenado dev but unfortunately he didn't mention the Turbo TS-C version with much more high altitude performance. This one is the last one they made and is from 1982 and normally aspirated. However those "ruddervators" were simply silly on a GA aircraft. Cheers old chap and sorry to see that the upper Thames tributaries are all dried up so bad. A taste of Australia as we say? ;-)
Don't think I'll be buy buying this GA yet, but probably will after a few updates. It does look promising in the future.
Fair enough Ryan, that’s probably a prudent move haha. Sadly, given that the Bonanza is an “Asobo” aircraft, I doubt it will see more than the bare minimum in terms of updates - that seems to be the way these things work. . .
All the best! : )
You got within 20’ before flare at 68 knts. 🎉🎉
Is that to say that it was a good effort, friendhui, or was it a little bit close for comfort haha? XD
All the best : )
I'm like 100. I do hope the modding community get the PMS50 GTN-750 working or Black Square create an addon that enables all this perfectly with also co pilot showing option and storm window that does not close automatically. Love the plane but I need the PMS50 GTN-750 in it so I can fly her lots more.
Yeah, I very much agree Sven. It’d be nice to have 3rd party GTN integration and even better if someone could develop the aircraft further (like Black Square etc). Hopefully A2A will come along with their Bonanza eventually, at which point I’m sure all of this will be moot anyway haha.
Cheers, all the best! : )
This one is far better IMO than the BR Sim Designs V-Tail.
Hi Dave,
I haven’t tried the BR Sim version myself, but undoubtedly the Carenado version is the better looker. Again, for the price (cheaper than the competition also I believe?) I think it’s a nice offering.
Cheers and all the best : )
I enjoy taxing an airplane like the V-35 because the ruddervator makes the plane shake when making 90 degree turns.
You fly the V-35 in the real world you mean Iffy? Must be great fun : )
Cheers and all the best!
Gibberish.
Had one at my home base. Not a Doctor but owned shrimp/fish farms. His son wanted nothing to do with aviation so I flew with this man every time I had the chance. A plane every one recognizes and this one was a real pooch but not a hanger queen. Haven't flown the sim version but she is slippery, stable light controls but rolled fairly easy. Most structural failures were vfr pilots in imc and lost awareness overstressing the frame. A very high loss rate due to few ifr ratings then whcih gave it the reputation.
Ah brilliant - I'd never be one to turn down some free flying either haha!
I've not flown a real V35, but I've heard it said that the aircraft flies more like a warbird, than most other GA offerings. It sounds like a nice aircraft to fly anyway and I'm sure "the doctor killer" was a victim of circumstance, rather than being an inherently dangerous machine to operate.
Thanks for sharing and all the best : )
Really enjoy your videos. I always watch them before I make a purchase. I have one question, what are you using for your camera angles? IR Tracker or a VR headset? The way you use the buttons and set up the aircraft like your actually flying it is a really nice style to your videos.
Thanks very much Michael, I'm really glad you're enjoying the content and finding it useful!
For pretty much all of my videos, I am using TrackIR. I love VR, but I find it often doesn't come across very well in a video (and I don't have decent performance with it in MSFS at any rate). TrackIR is the next best thing though and whilst a little pricey, I couldn't really do without it at this point.
I'm glad you feel that TrackIR adds something to the videos; I would certainly like to think so and I generally try to create the experience of "actually flying" as best I can.
I hope that clarifies things. Thanks very much once again and all the best! : )
Me and my uncle used to fly the hell out of the bonanza always to go eat bbq 😂😂😂 we loved it but he sold it and then his cub 😢 haven’t been up with him in awhile
Ah well, I'm really glad that the video brought back some nice memories, Smyth. It must have been great fun while it lasted! : )
All the best!
Love your reviews sir. Did you think the landing gear retracted too quickly?
Thanks very much Peter, I'm really glad you're enjoying them!
Hmm, I'm afraid I can't really say, not having seen a real-world V35 gear retraction. I did think the animation looked a touch fast myself, but that could just as easily be true to life. . .
Sorry I can't offer anything more concrete on that one.
Cheers and all the best! : )
This is such a good plane in this game.
Ah well I'm glad you're enjoying it NeelChaM! The Bonanza is certainly a beautiful aircraft and Carenado have done a pretty nice job with it overall - very pleasant for cruising around etc.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you, sir. The bonanza is a very beautiful Aircraft!
New PC with a 3090 video card coming. This will be one of the first planes I buy once I get the FS downloaded again.
Ooo, lucky you L CC! Enjoy both the PC and the Bonanza when the time comes then! : )
What program are you using to hear those very realistic radio calls?
Hi Jnl B,
I generally use clips from LiveATC.net, which I then edit into the video. There is an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of effect you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Another Good Review as Usual and Sigh already have meself a G36 and a Just Flight Arrow do I need a V35
Thanks Mike! Haha, well if the JF Arrows are ticking all the boxes for you, there probably isn’t much need for the V35 no. This one is really just a pickup for those who can’t resist the V35’s vintage charms ; )
All the best!
Haven’t had too much time to fly recently but work calming down now and in fact, am off this week so going to spend some time in the sim. For reasons won’t go into will indeed be getting the Fenix A320 in addition to PMDG’s 800 and finally also buying the Milviz 310R as it remains one of the best for study level I do believe. Certainly compared to the Bonanza on display here, worth the extra I assume it costs.
Edit, on the A320 guess perhaps I should wait for the Asobo release I heard about.
Also consider the 414 for a prop twin, I feel it has an edge on the 310, although it's a much heavier thing to fly. The Asobo aircraft is an a310, that is a *very* different a/c to a 320.
@@Karibanu Yep cheers Richard, as I think we covered off in the Discord channel, I'll get the Fenix A320 (this week, in fact).
Hi Mark,
Apologies for the slow reply - been keeping incredibly busy myself of late. I do hope you're enjoying the new purchases then, can't go too far wrong with any of those!
I haven't had a chance to catch up on the Discord yet, but indeed whilst I am very much looking forward to it, flying and A310 is going to be like using an abacus, having gotten used to a pocket calculator haha XD
Happy flying! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No worries dude, not sure you're expected to reply to every single comment :)
Haha, I try to though (especially when it’s a “friendly face” etc). That being said, replying to everything is becoming a bit unsustainable at this point, so I’ll probably have to temper it back a bit. Im going to try and clear my inbox first and then go from there haha ; )
00:50 dude on the left got ADHD. Dude on the right tries to ignore him.
Haha, I was thinking very much the same Ole XD
Great video! Have there been any updates to this plane since release? I'm on Xbox if that matters.
It just went on sale today so I'm tempted but the lackluster engine sound and some of the other concerns you mentioned might be deal breakers
Hello Jeff,
I’m glad you enjoyed the video, cheers!
If I recall correctly, the Bonanza did get an update, but it was just a basic bug fixing patch - the sounds etc remain the same as they were during this review. It depends what you’re after really; the V-tail is a nice option for cruising around in style and I think the aircraft is a decent enough offering (especially if you can pick it up at a reduced price), but it’s a Carenado aircraft, so really it’s beauty is only skin deep (that said, there aren’t any “show-stoppers, when it comes to bugs etc).
I hope that helps a little. All the best : )
Great video and nice flight as always. Just to note, I have been able to remove the copilot by adding their weight as "0" in the weight and balance section before flight. While it would be nice to have the tablet to do that, It isn't much worse to do it before flight. Really enjoying the V35B so far, though it doesn't like to slow in a slip much like the real-life counterpart.
Hi Nick,
Thanks very much for the pointer. That’s really strange then, as I tried the same thing myself ahead of the review and the pilot copilot model didn’t disappear haha. Perhaps I selected the wrong loading box in error. . .
I’m glad you’re enjoying the V35! I’ve no doubt the addon doesn’t faithfully recreate the real world aircraft in every respect, but I think it’s a fun little cruiser for the price.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
High quality channel this. Well done 👍🏻
Are you using VR? Looks much more ‘fluid’ than the ‘stock’ game.
Unless I’m missing a setting on my configuration…
Looks like TrackIR
@@littlec916 Ahh - yes - I've had it years - never even tried it on FS2020 - I'll give it a whirl 👌
@@meenboli oh wow! Yeah I use trackir everytime I fly. Can't fly without it.
Thanks very much for the kind words Meenboli, I’m glad you’re enjoying the content!
As Littlec points out, it is indeed TrackIR that I was using. It’s a great piece of kit, if a little pricey. There are cheaper / “freeware” alternatives out there though, should you wish to give head tracking a go for yourself : )
Cheers and all the best!
I would like to see a side-by-side review of the flight model vs the stock Bonanza, especially regarding situations where the V-tail would change the flight behavior.
AvAngel, another youtube msfs2020 enthusiast wanted to test rudder effectiveness in the air, but ending up reinforcing its nickname "Doctor Killer" as it immediately entered a flat spin from which she wasn't able to recover from.
Hello Bryan,
That would indeed be an interesting aspect to investigate, although I'm not sure that either flight model (being a default aircraft vs a Carenado aircraft) would really do the Bonanza justice. As FoBy points out, the Carenado V35 can certainly demonstrate some aggressive behaviours if mishandled, but I'm not sure to what degree those behaviours are accurate (I know the V-tail has a reputation, but I believe a lot of its accidents were actually caused by VFR pilots, inadvertently entering into IMC conditions).
Anyway, alas I'm pretty pushed for time just keeping up with reviews currently, so I don't think I'll be able to make such a video myself.
Thank you very much for the suggestion though! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I've decided to go on a Stall/spin Spree with Both simulators! Both the Bonanza and Baron default enter a spin and they don't even have the vtail! They feel the same on a physics wise. I also, decided to buy an RC bonanza and baron and try this and it happened in real llife with an RC model.
Haha, nice FoBy. Sounds like you’ve taken to investigating quite throughly! I hope you got your RC Bonanza back in one piece XD
@@IntotheBlueSimulations unfortunately real life is less forgiving lol
so this version of the V35 doesn't do the Wiggle Waggle when in windy conditions ?? I had the pleaure of flying a V35 though an older model with the organ keys but still a joy to fly.
I’m afraid I couldn’t really say Mike, not having tried the aircraft in any particularly gusty conditions. I’m away with work at the moment, so unfortunately I can’t test anything either.
The Carenado V35’s flight model is obviously far from “study level” though, so I wouldn’t really recommend the product unless you’ll be happy with a pretty visual model and not much else. The addon certainly won’t stack up much against the real thing, but lucky you for having had the experience of flying the real deal : )
Cheers and all the best!
I think for the price I think this is one of those "why not?" type of buys. Do I absolutely need it? No. But it is a v-tail, so why not?!
Haha, absolutely Jonno! It’s one of those purchases that obviously isn’t groundbreaking, but for a few hours of enjoyable, pleasant cruising in the sim, personally I already feel I got my money’s worth with the V35 : )
Happy flying and all the best!
thanks again for the review...if you had to pick just one - V35 or the Beech 18?
I'm trying to decide which one to purchase.
thanks
Hi Gleesmj,
I’d probably go with the Beech 18 all things considered. I actually think that the V35 is the slightly more polished product (better sounds and flight model), but single-engine GA options are abundant in the sim, whereas the Beech 18 offers a more unique flying experience (be warned, the autopilot is still a bit buggy though). That being said, if the above doesn’t hold much sway with you and you’re just asking which is the best product of the two, again I would probably have to say the Bonanza overall.
A little bit non-committal haha, but I hope that helps? : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ha yes non committal but makes perfect sense. I was leaning towards the Beech as well...
Do you notice a change in sound volume when you increase throttle. I've found its get quieter and not louder
Hi Isaac,
I think I know what you mean; increasing the throttle does tend to give a higher engine note, increasing the treble and reducing the bass from what I can tell. A a result, it does sound a little bit as though the engine is getting quieter at high power settings. Personally I didn't find this effect to be too bad though and whilst I do think that the Bonanza's sounds need work, I generally didn't have an issue with the volume levels themselves (if you're using the headphone simulation in the sim, perhaps consider turning that off).
Cheers, all the best! : )
Seems you don't have a "doctor" title... 😉💙
Haha, indeed Ra. Thankfully it's not Into the Blue MD! ; )
It seems pilot qualifications are better than medical qualifications for flying the V-tail Bonanza - just don't ask me to perform any open-heart surgeries XD
All the best!
You fly well. I'd let you fly my Bonanza over KTVL. Been there many times. Usually it is not busy at all, not what a person would expect.
How do you trim the plane so well? Do you use the trim assist?
Without tactile feedback from the yoke I have a hard time trimming well and it's hard to hold altitude, especially IFR.
I'm a commercial pilot but new to sim.
Also how do you turn off the pop-up tags every time the cursor contacts a clickable item? They are frustrating and often block what I need to see.
Is there a way to sue the keyboard to program the 530? Using the dials is tedious .
Thank you very much,
Bill
Hello Bill,
Thank you very much for the kind words!
Trimming in the sim, is quite a different exercise vs trimming in the real world. As you mention, there isn’t any control feedback of course (unless one is using a force-feedback yoke); I tend to put in course trim, to ease up on my control inputs and then trim the rest out with my controls centred. Thereafter, it’s easier (in the sim) to fly pitch with trim, rather than the controls.
To turn off the pop-ups, you need to go into your settings menu and find the “Cockpit Tooltips” option (or something similarly named) and turn that off.
The “Working Title” mod, does allow the user to input to the GNS530 with a keyboard (next to the entry field, there is a small keyboard prompt) however, I don’t believe the mod comes included with the Carenado Bonanza. There is a way of configuring the Bonanza to include the mod but, I haven’t tried that myself and I am not all that familiar with the process (Google may be able to help you there).
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
That helps a lot. Thank you for your time and thoughtful reply. You have eared a loyal viewer.
I’ve spent hours on the sim and I’m learning much like I had to learn to fly any new aircraft. I find the ‘ buttonology’ as we call it and the IFR procedures to be helpful in the real world. I had the Maule (the physical one) out yesterday and I was sharp on approaches. The real plane is DRAMATICALLY easier to handle than the simulated one. The risk of death for a mistake is a bit more palpable though 🤣@@IntotheBlueSimulations
My Pleasure, Bill!
It’s always a hotly debated topic (haha) but, I find the sim can be a useful training aid also (of course it has its limitations vs the real thing).
I hope you had a great Christmas. Happy flying and all the best for 2024 : )
How do pilots IRL remember very long taxi instructions like at a large airport? Do they just write down or have very good memories?
Hi Robi,
Well I can’t speak for all pilots, but I (and indeed most that I work with) do indeed tend to write things down. If it’s a short taxi instruction at a familiar airport, then I may just commit it to memory, but otherwise it’s nice to have the clearance on paper, to refer back to throughout the taxi. Generally the pilot monitoring will write down the instructions and the pilot flying will focus on the taxi.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes, it does help, now all I need is a co-pilot in the sim with me.
Maybe it’s my settings but none of the Carenado engines sound like the real thing (V35, Seminole, M20 etc). Milviz C310 and Just Flight Arrow have both nailed the engine sounds.
Hi Stew,
Yeah, I don't know how accurate most of Careando's output is vs the real thing, but at this price point personally I just expect the addons to sound "good". The Waco I thought sounded really nice, the M20R felt the part and the C170 I actually thought sounded great. The rest of Carenado's output is average though and the Arrow III, Seneca and especially the Beech 18 were rather "lacklustre". Just Flight and Milviz do indeed tend to absolutely nail the sounds and to be fair at this sort of price point, personally I wouldn't hold Careando to the same standards (though of course I would love it if they were achieving the same results!).
That's just my two pennies worth though ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
Dose it have the usual Ca multi aircraft sound issue?
Hi Fire Fox,
Which issue specifically are you referring to? Do you mean Carenado using the same soundset for different aircraft? I think there may well be some of that going on here, as the Bonanza does sound awfully similar to the Arrow. . .
All the best : )
Will pass, Carenado usual beautiful but featureless. Hope A2A will bring their Bonanza one dayon MSFS.
Fair enough Ludwik. I've no doubt the A2A version will blow Carenado's V35 out of the water. Like many, I am very much looking forward to the day we see A2A in MSFS!
All the best : )
I must not buy any more planes. I must not buy any more planes. Is there a hypnotist in the house?
Must not buy any more planes
Haha! Resistance is futile I’m afraid John. I think we all tell ourselves the same thing and yet the developers don’t seem to be running out of cash just yet XD
The Atitude Indicator is not functioning properly! =( Cant see how I algign to the horizon... it just shows when turning...
Hi Rymd,
Are you still having issues? I haven't spent a tonne of time flying the Bonanza in reference to the instruments thus far, but I didn't notice anything obvious myself at the time. . .
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hi, and thanks for you respond. Well, the issue is still there - it's like the Atitude Indicator is glued or hardly moving (pitch that is). Not sure whats going on. No 3rd party (non-FSMP) installed either that could interfere. Hows your atitude indicator moving? Or is it moving at all?
I found that the Logitec Multi Panel is not working right with it. The ALT is not working right and can not be changed.
I've seen a couple of other users mentioning the same thing HR. I guess there must be some sort of bug between the aircraft and the panel; presumably that issue will need fixing up on Carenado's end unfortunately. . .
Cheers, all the best! : )
Very nice aircraft i just bought it but i can't find any checklist procedures!!! Can somebody tell me where to find it?
Hi PG,
I don’t believe that the addon comes with any documentation. The real-world POH can be found easily enough online though and there are checklists available over on Flightsim.to : )
I hope that helps a little. Happy flying and all the best!
Nice aicraft. I love the Bonanza V tail. Just one question: what are you doings in the USA with a UK registered Bonanza? A N registered Bonanza would be more credible. Simmers always fly with the wrong registered aircraft!
Hi Antonio,
Haha, well that’s my channel registration! “G” because I’m a Brit and “ITBS” for obvious reasons. It might not be geographically “normal”, but of course one could hypothetically travel the world using a single registration. I like to personalise my aircraft where I can in my videos : )
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!
oh alright not study level but it does look like alot of fun and I do have someone renting my parking spot so I do a have few quid burning a hole in my pocket soooooo think I will have a go at this then. Stamp Duty Tax will be coverd by some quid I have stashed away for a rainy day as it were.
Indeed Mike; the Carenado Bonanza isn’t study level, but (as ever with Carenado) it’s a beautiful rendition of the aircraft and more than pleasant enough for cruising around in. I took the V-tail for another flight recently and very much enjoyed it : )
Happy flying!
The question is : how does it compare with the BRSimDesign Bonanza ?
I have the BRS and i think this new one looks much better. Ill say they fly about the same. You get some more features on the BRS bit not sure that is worth it.
Thanks for offering up the help HR, very much appreciated! : )
Hi Guillaume,
I'm afraid I can't really elaborate on HR's reply, not owning the BR Sim Design's version myself. From what I have seen of the BRSD version though, the Careando version does generally look to be the better product.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Ah. The V tailed Dr. Killer. A Classic : )
Haha indeed Boba, quite the reputation the little V-tailed Bonanza has! Luckily I’m not medically certified, so we managed to make it down again in one piece ; )
All the best!
Bought this plane today, it's absolutely a joy to fly, but saddened that you cannot see passengers in it.
Glad you're enjoying it Curtis!
Yeah it's a shame that even now, only a very small number of devs are making full use of all that MSFS has to offer (visible passengers, smoke effects, custom registrations etc). I can forgive Carenado given the price point, but I agree that such features would have been nice to see nevertheless.
Happy flying! : )
my grandfather owned a v tail
Ah very nice Rikilamaru, lucky him! Did you ever have a chance to go up in it, or did he own it before your time? : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations no, he lost his medical when I was to young. Tho my younger sister and her husband have tracked down the plane
Ahh, that’s a shame. Amazing that you managed to track the aircraft down though. Perhaps if you ask the present owner nicely, he might be willing to take you up for a spin : )
As far as I can tell this is the same sound package as the Carenado Arrow. I find it interesting how enamored the community is by this aircraft while the Carenado Arrow got dumped on. It is pretty but their Arrow has the best night lighting in the sim IMHO so I see no need to buy another GA in this class just for another 10 knots in the cruise. Xbox btw so no JF arrow after 1 year…
Please, WT GNS530 update now that the G1000 is done - in the name of everything third party Xbox!
Hi Tickle,
Yeah, I think you might be onto something there; I too thought the Bonanza sounded ratherrrr similar to the Arrow. The Arrow did initially release in a pretty poor state, quite a lot of bugs etc, so that’s probably why it’s not held in high regard; I flew the aircraft again recently though and rather enjoyed it overall. The Bonanza was more “polished” on release and obviously it’s a design classic, so I think that’s why the product has been given a warmer reception. As you say though, the V35 doesn’t offer anything “game-changing” in the sim, that cant already be found in other addons.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hey, thanks for the reply - I had forgotten I even wrote this. This makes sense as I picked up the PA-28 on sale a while after release with a bug in the landing light angle being the only issue other than having the KAP autopilot which is probably the worst SDK autopilot in the sim when it comes to random bugs that seem to have no rhythm or reason.
Fair enough comments - if folks don’t have either, the V35B is the better value unless there is a sale and then it is probably more down to personal taste.
Having seen a little more there may be a few differences in sound but it just seems like a few tweaks to the mix rather than a new sound package.
Thanks for your continued honest reviews and fun historical role play content!
Does this type of aircraft have the perfirmance to fly to El Alto Airport? *evil grins*
Haha, it should be doable FoBy - apparently the V35 has a service ceiling of 17,500ft. It might be a little bit of a struggle mind you ; )
Best of luck! : P
.....nice video .......but bad for the plane's audio ......nearly missing !!!!
Thanks Fabio. Yeah, the sounds are a shame; not quite as disappointing as the Beech 18, but nevertheless they don’t really do the Bonanza justice do they.
All the best : )
i want the a2a v35
Haha, I think we all do Daniel!! ; )
Vatsim on the radio?
Hi Jim,
The ATC is actually just recordings from LiveATC.net, which I’ve then edited into the video : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations creative! 😁👍🏻 thanks for ur answer
Haha, cheers Jim! You’re most welcome : )
I’ve for this horrible beeping from the cockpit, what could it be
I’ve had this before…. For the life of me I can’t remember what it was… something with the autopilot I think, a conflict between my controls and the sim.
Test switch left, in the down position maybe, can accidentally switch it on when adjusting radial dial.
It’s a little bit tricky to say without knowing exactly what it sounds like PP, is the beeping continuous throughout the flight?
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it was, but once there was an update the beeping stoped
Ah great, glad it got sorted then! : )
If you have no attachment to the real aeroplane is there anything about this that makes it stick out? seems like another blah Carenado GA aircraft without even some of the frills Carenado provide. With something of a flood of mediocre GA aircraft already in this sim new ones really do need some sort of USP.
Short answer would be “not really” RD. Other than the Carenado V35 being a very beautiful visual recreation of the Bonanza, the product doesn’t offer anything new in the sim. If the V-tail doesn’t float your boat, much better off sticking with the JF Arrows etc : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Back to waiting for the Comanche it is...
JFs Terrorhawk has to be nearly ready too, not that it's the same sort of bird.
Haha if you aren’t a diehard V35 fan, that’s probably a prudent course of action. Yeah, looking forward to the Tomahawk myself! : )
Another mainly eye candy ac from Carenado. Shame. Classic ac. Better to pay more rather than rush it out for quick money. Thanks for the vid.
Yep, pretty fair critique there Andy. This V35 is of course generally only going to satisfy a certain customer base, but hopefully we’ll see A2A’s Bonanza at some point and that should more than cater to those of us who enjoy a bit more depth with our addons : )
All the best!
I bought it and i regret it so much.
I would appreciate an update-politic to study-level with this cheap birds.
Me too Taras! I was hoping we'd see the likes of REP (from X-Plane) coming into MSFS and improving aircraft like the Carenado Bonanza. Sadly that doesn't seem to have been an appealing prospect to any devs thus far though (unless one counts the likes of Black Square).
All the best : )
I’ll watch the video as your content is always entertaining, but I will never give Carenado another dollar either directly or through this business model. Carenado is great at making what I call Super Models. Absolutely beautiful but has the depth of a puddle. I know I say the same thing on every Carenado video but I hate to see so much potential wasted on fast money grabs.
i bought 3 of there products so far.... everyone feels nearly the same to fly... model 18 is there best so far in my opinion and the only one worth buying. and theres still a bunch of issues with that plane, the autopilot is buggy as hell, some buttons are finicky and have to press multiple times for it to register and the takeoff alarm thing is far louder than it should be
Well I very much appreciate the patronage CG, all the more so given that I know you aren’t a fan of Carenado’s output haha. As I say, I don’t mind their products for what they are, but I can completely understand why their output isn’t to everyone’s tastes. It is a real shame that the beauty of Carenado’s products is generally only skin deep, but I don’t think the leopard will change its spots at this point.
Thanks very much once again for watching! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I have the Carenado Seneca. Very well done.
That's a load of BS. Carenado planes are top rated and one of the best makers in flight sim. Their planes are outstanding both inside and out with solid flight physics to go with it and well worth their asking prices.
@@dukecordo6506 carenado planes are good for the price range of $25.. but simworks studios, milviz, pmdg and just flight are the quality i expect and are far better
As soon as I see 'Carenado' it is an instant-ignore from me. Long history of poor systems depth, bad flight model and weak sounds.
Haha, well fair enough Bike Guy! None of what you say is unfair criticism there and Carenado could certainly stand to improve in areas outside of their visuals. As I say, I don’t mind their output personally and have enjoyed one or two of their MSFS output quite a bit, but to each his own of course!
All the best : )
Hello… Carenado is NOT doing a good job in handling. Pitch is way way to sensitive. Beautiful airplanes for sure, but terrible handling… no one comments this in reviews!!???
Wake up carenado. Bad bad work…
Hi Ricardo,
Well I think it depends on one's frame of reference: I don't think Carenado are doing a great job as compared with the higher fidelity addons out there, but for $15, *personally* all I'm expecting is an aircraft that behaves in a broadly representative fashion and is pleasant enough to fly (and I think the V35 ticks those boxes). For sure much of their output is a bit pitchy and many of the tail draggers exhibit strange behaviours on takeoff etc, but this is true of many addons within the sim.
I enjoy higher fidelity addons myself, but that has never been what Carenado are looking to provide. For those who want a more casual simming experience, I feel that Carenado offer decent value for money with products like the V35.
To each his own though of course! Cheers and all the best : )