Quick Tip 130 - Dianne's Value/Color Line
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Several In the Studio Art Instruction subscribers have asked about the art teacher's process in developing her value lines and color lines of paint. Dianne Mize explains the how and why to this process. www.diannemize.com
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Thank you so much for generously making these videos. I learn so much with every one. You are a wonderful teacher!
Thanks, Martha. These are fun to do.
I don't know who the idiot was that gave this a thumbs down, but this is very helpful information given in a concise and thorough manner. Thank you Diane!
Some folks just need to exercise their thumbs 😊.
haha yes, you can't please everyone I guess
Thank you so much! This is the BEST, easiest way I have ever seen someone explain how to mix colors. Many artists make it more complicated than it needs to be. I can't wait to try this. Thank you again.
As Spock would say, "It's only logical." :)
Boy that was a good lesson. Not only instructive but you teach how and why so we 'understand' what we do. That is what a good teacher does ... and you are a ___good one.
Thanks, Helene.
You have wowed me again with another great lesson! I'm becoming addicted to your teachings."I've learned more from you than from anyone else! Your lessons, although somewhat simple, are packed! Thank you!
Wow! Thank YOU!
I had a teacher who said KISS IT!keep it simple stupid,works like a dream every time
Hey, please can you give tutorial how cobalt blue and pthalo turquoise can be created by other shades of blue. Thank you so much. I love your videos!
I'll put that one on the list, Garima. Thanks for your suggestion.
In the Studio Art Instruction Thank you so much. I'll surely wait. :)
These are such VALUABLE LESSONS from a TRULY EXPERIENCED ARTIST! You're a generous person who loves what they do. I'm reciprocating by purchasing some of your courses. These tips are a goldmine filled with practical, time saving nuggets. Here you find demonstrated the very things you'd expect to find in classic books written on the subject of oil painting. Great stuff! Thank you!
Wow, thank you! And thanks for watching.
12:40 - This was such a groundbreaking revelation to me seeing your value scales in this way! Thank you again! 💙
I am delighted!
thank you mom, you are wonderful teacher all the time
Thank you! 😃
Thanks for our teacher , God bless you
:)
Oh, Dianne, this is just the best!! I needed this quick tip more than you can imagine. I'm starting a workshop tomorrow and I can't wait to put this into practice - it's where my paintings go south every time! Thank you SO much!
WooHoo!
I have only just discovered Dianne and her wonderful channel, but am devouring these Quick Tips. One thing that really strikes me aside from Dianne's clear and articulate teaching style is that, as a beginner (me), these videos (like this one) reaffirm some natural inclinations I have and embolden me in my art making process. Like when you feel an instinct to work a certain way and then second guess yourself, but then a teacher says "actually this is a great way to work!" It's a wonderfully empowering feeling!
Ah, I love knowing that.
I am so glad to find you , I am new to paint with oil and I do learn a lot from you 👌🙏👩🎨👏💕 you are wonderful, I am taking notes ☺️🙏
And go the next step. Play with it.
I'm very new to painting, and starting off with oils. On of my biggest challenges has been setting up my palette, and your videos have been a huge help, so thank you!
Wonderful!
This is one I will have to watch over again so it grooves. My palette always looks like an accident scene.
First Breaking Bad and now this: I'm binge-watching these great videos
:)
You are so wonderful to share these priceless videos!! This video has made crystal clear concepts I have been wondering about for a long time. I now understand how to set up my palette to maximize how I set about getting my values correct in my work.
Great!
Thanks. I rarely have a plan and when I do never stick to it. This can be so frustrating. I'm going to try using your colour system in my next painting.
Let me know how you like working with it.
Earlier today I had some difficulty with painting a quince. As it turned away from the light, the yellow became darker of course, and less saturated. When I desaturated the yellow with a little purple, it became TOO dark. So I added a little white....then it was too light again... if I had understood and made value lines before starting, I could have darkened AND desaturated at the same time AND kept the value correct. Thank you Dianne and team, this has really helped me grasp the values concept and I’m sure it’ll help in my paintings from now on.
Great! One of the problems a lot of folks have when they're desaturated hues is caused because they didn't value correct the darker color first.
I love watching your quick tips. I’m new to painting and am looking at different pochade boxes and plein air easels. Curious as to ones you like and what the one in this video is. Thanks for sharing your tips.
My favorite pochade box and plein air easel are both made by Sienna.
I love the way you teach.i had a braintumor rather than feel sorry for myself I am making little toys for children, ,,,give them away,,,,your lessons help me keep trying even though I can't hold the brush real good.the little people don't worry about a poor job.i get more ambitious every day!love you and thanks
Wonderful! You made my day.
Hi Dianne
After watching your tutorial on colour harmony and added cerulean blue and used in my painting of a forest and the colour harmony has made big impact on my painting.
Thank you so much for making that tutorial
Wonderful! I love hearing my Quick Tips have been helpful. Thanks.
Wow, this is SO helpful!! All your tips are, but man, I was hunting for THIS one today! :-) Bless you!
Fantastic! Enjoy the process.
Just watched - Reuse Your Messy Palette Paint - and had a Question.
The area you are using for youtube in your studio/home area doesnt look well ventilated. Are there any concerns about chemical brush cleaners/ (and oil paints in general) that you are using in that small area? I live in a small place with only 1 window and am concerned about air circulation (and health issues later on from these chemicals). Do you have any tips and ideas on how to stay healthy around typical painting chemicals as an artist?
You see only a small portion of the teaching studio. It is in a large open space, plus I have a ventilation fan in my main studio, but the most important thing is that I do not use highly toxic chemicals. The paints themselves contain linseed oil, my solvent is either Turpenoid or Gamsol, both refined odorless mineral spirits and the only medium I use is either linseed oil or a small amount of Liquin for quicker drying. It is not necessary to use toxic materials.
This information is priceless. Wish I had discovered your videos much earlier!
Thanks.
And I discovered 11months later than you
Thankk you very much . This was my problem which you corrected for me. Thanks.
Ah, now enjoy using it.
Thank you for teaching us, I discovered your chanel a few time ago and love it. I'm portuguese and almost 70 years old.
So glad you found us, Helena.
Really helpful Diane. Thank you. I would love to see you do an actual painting. You have so much expertise, I am sure we would all learn a lot.
These Quick Tips are designed to be short and cover single concepts or techniques. If you watch Notan: How and Why, you will see me in the process of creating a painting. ua-cam.com/video/2iIm9Ms7ZZ8/v-deo.html Also, see Yonah Mountain, A Study -- ua-cam.com/video/9gfG5L0STLQ/v-deo.html -- The sound on this one starts out poor but clears up in a few minutes.
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!!in a few minutes you have explained why my colour mixing never works. as i never knew about setting out a value colour line. Thank you for sharing your expertise!!!
My pleasure. Enjoy using the value line.
Awesome video! So appreciate your teaching tips! I would love to learn more how I can train my eye to see all the different colors in a photo. Do you have a quick tip for this. Thank you.
Look through the Quick Tip list. I have several quick tips that deal with color. Also, many of our full length lessons address how to find the colors you are seeing.
Simply brilliant... after hundreds of videos I finally found one that makes values easy to understand!
Wonderful!
Thank you
Tony...west hills, ca. usa
I like the idea of value lines but what if you find you need more paint, what if you mix the wrong value
If you need more paint, you put out more paint. If you mix the wrong value, you change it to the right one. It's a very forgiving approach.
Excellent, clearly explained and very helpful. Thank you
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
amazing, it is the 1st time i heard of this,............................ thanks dianne
Give it a try.
This was great! Thank you, great tip, I will be establishing value lines
Excellent! Have fun with them.
Thank you very much Ms. Mize - this is the exact tutorial I've was looking for! : )
You're welcome 😊
This is SO helpful. I’m a beginner painter and love these videos. Thank you so much! 🙏
My pleasure, Linda. Thanks for watching.
I just learned something! Thank you!
Excellent! Have fun with it.
Hello, thank you very much for these video and those good tips 😊!
You're so welcome!
I'm trying this today...this is what I needed. Thanks again
Have fun with it.
One question: you started by observing 3 colors in the photo (orange, blue and green) and went about establishing value lines without reference to the color wheel and discussion about which of your four color compositions the painting would have: triad, complimentary, etc...am I missing something? (If it's a silly question just ignore it, I'm a newbie and I LOVE YOYR TUTORIALS!!! Thanks)
John, this one is just about how to set up the value/color line based on the colors within the reference. I have many tips on color mixing which you can find by going to the channel home page ( ua-cam.com/channels/JErPSUwVOXzRYDC4kWejnw.html ) then click on Community in the menu.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction thanks Dianne, I'll check those out too. I LOVE all your tips--- VERY helpful... thanks again
That was a fabulous tip. Made so much sense. Thank you.
Have fun with it.
Thank you, it's very helpful!
You're welcome!
Invaluable information! Thank you!
My pleasure, Maria! Thanks for watching.
You are incredible explaining so well everything!
Thanks.
Great artist and a great teacher! Thank you Ms. Mize!
Thank you! Cheers!
Color/value lines are SO handy - love this lesson!
They do simplify the process and make it easier to keep the palette organizes for find the colors we need.
What to do when I get to a point in a painting of wondering what I should do next?
Take a break from it, then when you come back, turn it upside down (along with your reference). Sometimes, a painting is finished when you no longer know what to do. At other times, you just need to take a fresher look at it.
Loved this quick tip! I cant wait to practice setting up my palette this way. Thank you
Have fun with it.
ممتاز هل يوجد ترجمة بالعربي ان امكن
لسوء الحظ ، ليس لدينا الوقت والمال لترجمة مقاطع الفيديو إلى العربية
That was so informative! A lightbulb went off in my head when you talked about picking colors from the same value line as another color! Learned alot!
I love it when light bulbs go off.
right, it makes complete logical sense to do this.
Thanks so much! I learned so much from you.
I am delighted. Thanks for being a suscriber.
Very well explained, thank you!
You're very welcome!
This is so helpful! Thank you for sharing this!
My pleasure.
I had no idea that I should mix the same value of 1 color with the same value of another color. That makes so much sense!
Another light bulb moment. I love it!
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Me too! You are a GREAT teacher!
So very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks, Clara.
Just great idea. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Great video! I have real trouble understanding in what order to paint things on an oil painting. I have worked in acrylics and watercolours in the past and the process is different to oils, and I get confused about how to paintbackgrounds around the shapes of foreground elements and when to just let backgrounds dry and paint over them with the foreground, and when to use wet-in-wet and how to make a decision as to the process for any particular oil painting. Can you do an example?
Oil painting can be done either alla prima (in one sitting) or in stages. As with all painting mediums, different artists approach it different ways. I suggest you watch my free video Notan: How and Why to get a sense of how I approach it. You can find it at ua-cam.com/video/2iIm9Ms7ZZ8/v-deo.html .
That is truly brilliant of you to come up with, Dianne!
Thanks, Linda. Believe it or not, I got the original idea from Leonardo da Vinci.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Well, I'll be. Now, I've learned even more than expected!
This is so valuable! Thank you!
My pleasure.
This is so helpful. Thank you!
My pleasure.
Very helpful__I was thinking that one could do a whole set of value line charts with any paints used.
That way , you don't have to mix it each time , you just have to identify which colour is which in a scene
or even a photo. You will save paint if say , you only need a portion of that scale. Your chart would be the
reference to ratios needed. Using plastic medical syringes will give you pretty accurate proportions when you
first mix the scales. Then you learn your scales , just like a musician.
I like your idea of doing value line charts, similar to what Richard Schmid learned from his teacher, Bill Mosby. But allow me to add that when painting, we are dealing with a number of subtle variations in values of colors that my value lines on the palette enable. For example, if within the reference, there is spring foliage in a direct light source, if I create lines of yellow-green, blue and red-violet, I have the potential there to get variations in hues, values and intensities within the same value ranges.
Love this tip. Today I just wanted to do color lines for the colors that are on my palette and for a few that you use just to see if I could do it. I noted that the Rembrandt Transparent Red Oxide was a similar hue to the Grumbacher Burnt Sienna and noted also that the Burnt Sienna was considered opaque as opposed to the transparency of the Red Oxide. Do I need both on my palette and what is the advantage of one over the other? - if there is one. Thanks, I derive so much from your valuable tips.
You are right. Another color very similar is Quinacridone Burnt Orange. I don't think it's necessary to have both on the palette, but it's a matter of choice. My advice is to keep on your palette the colors that you use most, that you know you will need. For those very similar, make a choice.
Great instructions Thank you 🙏🏼
Why is the stock pile of paint around your pallet?
Doesn’t it dry out?
I don’t want to waste paint, can you please explain and guide me.
Love your instructions and work.
Check out Quick Tip 115 for explanations about my palette. I think it will answer your question.
I just discovered your amazing videos with so many helpful tips-many that I had forgotten along the way. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
You are so welcome!
Scholarly demonstration. Very helpful. I am a novice, and watch many of your videos. Thank you for your generous lessons.
Thanks, Vicki.
Love this tip. Today I just wanted to do color lines for the colors that are on my palette and for a few that you use just to see if I could do it. I noted that the Rembrandt Transparent Red Oxide was a similar hue to the Grumbacher Burnt Sienna and noted also that the Burnt Sienna was considered opaque as opposed to the transparency of the Red Oxide. Do I need both on my palette and what is the advantage of one over the other? - if there is one. Thanks, I derive so much from your valuable tips.
You probably didn't intend to do a duplicate post. Bless UA-cam...
I agree with Martha. I learn so much from these quick tips. I’ve taken a few oil painting classes over the years and have not learned much from them. You are a gifted teacher and so generous in sharing your knowledge. Very soon I will be signing up for one of your courses with every confidence that I will learn a great deal. Thanks for all your videos!
Great! Thanks for watching.
Merci pour votre bien veillante gentillesse
Thanks for watching.
Hi Dianne, I am working on a painting, a boat on a very calm lake. The boat is just anchored there. What I am having trouble with is the image of the boat reflecting on the water. It's the same color as the boat but as a reflection. Help!
Louise, I would need to see your reference to give you specific advice, but without seeing it, I can tell you to look for three things and you will know what to do. (1) What is the value of the reflection? If you need to, use a value scale to determine this. (2) What is the hue of the reflection? It might be the same as the boat or it might lean slightly towards it's neighbor on the color wheel. If need be, use a color wheel to determine the hue. (3)What is the intensity of the hue? This, too, might be slightly different from the boat--it could be a bit more neutral. Referring to an intensity wheel or scale might help here. You can go to my site diannemize.com , click on Free Stuff in the menu, and cursor down to get a Six-degree Intensity Wheel that might help you determine the hue's intensity.
Color is not a single entity, but has three parts, each determining (along with our perception) how we see it. When we can learn to see the hue, the value and the intensity, we can more easily identify any color we see. Hope this helps. P.S. You can also get free color wheels and value scales from my site.
Thanks.... very useful lesson
It's a pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much to have replied so quickly. I am doing my BFA soon and I really want to see how to neutralize my colors and when or (where) it is needed on my paintings. If you have the time, I would really like to see a demo on that subject. So far I learn so much from you...way more than at University. Thx for your videos.
Thanks, Annie. We will put your request on our schedule. Meanwhile, I have available a series of four hour-long lessons called Unraveling Intensity (Series 32 on diannemize.com) which may or may not be helpful. Until December 31 (2018), you can get 20% off by using at checkout the code UA-cam20
Best wishes as you pursue your BFA.
Thanks Dianne for directing me to the advice regarding one's colours on one's palette. I am the inquisitive type and I first wondered what your easel is and are they sold commercially, it's got to be handy having the wells on the outer edge of the mixing area..You mention using gamblin and I like these oils and I also appreciate the time to touch dry. I noticed that several of your wells contain this paint. Since it has a restricted open time. How often do you clean your palette and when cleaning are you just removing the colours that are approaching setting and do you use a cleansing fluid to remove most traces?
Philip, the easel I use for teaching is the Sienna Pochade box. I also use it for plein air painting. Please watch Quick Tip 115 - ua-cam.com/video/RORenwUXMDI/v-deo.html - to answer the 2nd part of your question. For the 3rd part, after each painting session, I clean the working area of the palette by first removing used paint with a window scraper, then wiping with paper towel, then spraying with alcohol and wiping clean. This works great for my glass palette. For my plastic palette, any residue left will come completely clean using Murphy's OIl soap, followed by a wipe down with alcohol and paper towel.
Oh my gosh Dianne, this information is so valuable! Thank you so much for sharing :)
You are so welcome!
i really find it hard to get the right colour value but you really make it very clear to me now i really excited to apply it in actual and hopefully i can make it. Thank you very much to all talented people being so generous to share their blessings.
Great! Enjoy the process.
Hi Dianne. I discovered your videos today after years of searching the internet for anything relating to color and color mixing. My question however is if you have any videos discussing the importance of edges and their nuances. Thanks for all your work in helping us to paint better.
Among my full length lessons, I have two series that focus on edges. Series 23: Managing Edges ( diannemize.com/product-category/series-twenty-four-managing-edges/ ) and Series 3: Exploring the Lost Edge ( diannemize.com/product-category/series-three-exploring-the-lost-edge/ ). I've not yet done a Quick Tip on edges.
I have both thumbs up on this one! Thanks so much! This is a great way to have our colours at hand and have a painting with great colour harmony. Dianne, I'm a real novice at oil painting but I'm loving it and you are so helpful!
Thanks, Lillian. Happy painting!
Game changer, thanks!
You bet!
Are you using Acrylic? If I tried the value line of colours I think the paints would dry?
Susanne, I am using oils. Acrylics work for the value line only if you are using Open acrylics or if you keep them damp while working.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Great videos and helpful in trying to master colour, tones etc. Thank you
You are so welcome!
One of my problems is that I never know how much paint to mix before I start painting.
That's a common problem. With experience, it will sort itself out. But for the moment, it's a good idea to put out more paint than you think you need. It's better always to have too much rather than not enough.
This video has now changed the way I put paint on the palette. Here's my question: I'm working on painting hands and for flesh tones I use a combination of yellow ochre, alizarin crimson and ultramarine blue. There will be various different hands with different flesh tones. Do I make a separate Value/Color line for each shade ( ie: fair skinned to darker skin) on the same line or break it up specifically for each shade, pink/peach toned, brown toned etc ? Do I mixed the darkest version and then lighten it down with white or pale yellow ochre? Not sure. Thanks so much for your videos!!!!
Linda, it's best to find a limited palette of no more than four colors that within its mixtures can give you the range of possibilities you will need., then set up value/color lines of those four colors. This will keep it simple while giving you color harmony at the same time.
A value line always has the full value range from the darkest dark of that hue to the lightest light. I always begin with the darkest dark. For example, for a yellow ochre value color line, I might begin with raw umber, then raw sienna, then yellow ochre, then yellow ochre light, then white--all in one value/color line. That would give me the complete value range of yellow ochre all in one line.
These, then would be intermixed with other colors (also set in value lines) as well as white.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thank you for clarifying this, in your signature straightforward style! Much appreciated.
I'm so glad I have found your Quick Tips. I'm learning so much. Thank you!
My pleasure.
Hi Dianne.. thank Y oiu so much for your videos. I just discovered your channel and have learned so much already. How do u keep your paints from drying out when u have so much of it on the borders?
Thanks for your comment, Belinda. Seem my Quick Tip 115 ua-cam.com/video/RORenwUXMDI/v-deo.html .
Very helpful explanation to the value color line it is amazing Dianne!! Thanks for generously sharing this work!
Thanks. I hope you try the value line to see how it works for you.
Thanks for the tutorial on value I've been gradually getting the looser style I admire but the hardest thing to understand and the most important is value I think this will be the most helpful way to approach it thanks again
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful way to arrange my colors on my palette. How would you use your Neutral tones and what are they used for?
Annie, every hue has the capability of being neutralized when its complement is added to it. The degree to which it is neutralized depends upon how much of the complement is added, so you could create a scale that goes from fully saturated to fully neutral. A neutral surrounding or juxtaposed with a more saturated hue will emphasize the saturation.
That range also has the capability for each degree of neutralization to have a value range from the lightest light to the darkest dark. But neutrals are more readable in the middle value range.
In realistic painting, we take our color information from our reference. More advanced realistic painters go further than merely record what they are seeing - rather they enhance their paintings by using color creatively. Often that includes inserting neutrals around or next to more saturated hues to make the saturation pop.
Also, when painting, if every color is fully saturated, visual chaos results because there is no place for the eye to rest. So another necessary function of neutrals is to temper saturation.
There is much more, but these are two basic ways the painter uses neutrals.
Very very useful tips!
And a pleasure to do. Thanks for watching.
This is a great tip for setting up your palette so it's easier to get your value right!! Really appreciate all these wonderful tips!
You are so welcome!
Thank you for this video!
Thank you for your videos. How about a quick tip on studio lighting and its effect on a canvas?
John, that one will be difficult to show, but we'll see if we can make it work.
Thank you very very much! I have never seen a detailing explanation like that!
My pleasure.
What color is the boat shadow on the grass?
That yellow green in the grass in shadow takes on a cooler hue and becomes very slightly more neutral, so to the shadow value of it, I would add a touch of red-violet (its complement) of the same value.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction great thank you!
I teach but this is a excellent way to explain this value system! Thanks!
Thanks. My students love it.
Hei :) I wonder about, were in the golden circle does the vocalpoint start ?
I'm not sure I understand your question, but if you're referring to the color/value line, it goes from the darkest dark to the lightest light. If you're referring to the color wheel, it is a continuum.
Very clever lesson!
Thanks! 😃
Fantastic method of learning and keeping values!
Thanks.
Amazing!! You are brilliant and a very wise teacher.
Ah, thanks.