Pepperming was the only Ubuntu distro that didn't cause me massive headaches on distro upgrades (e.g. from 14.04 to 16.04). Regular Ubuntu always broke on me. The maintainers were always active in the forums and provided swift and accurate solutions. It's a hidden gem
peppermint is awesome to in driver detection , i installed in a old laptop using the sis 671/672 chipset (a lot of distros dont recognize this old chipset and you have to create a massive script in order to work )
Thank you for the video DJ Ware, I cannot understand why they remove the Peppermint Logo, but the rest of the distro looks great. I have a spare pc in my garage and will install it on there.
Peppermint was my first real distro I used...and ever since the original lead developer passed away, I have felt like the new team has betrayed the essence of what Peppermint use to be...at least for me. It feels like they are openly erasing the past to build something new, and the removal of the old candy icon might be the last straw for me. I'm sure this new thing is great for some, and in truth, the removal of the icon is probably fitting. This new thing isn't really the same Peppermint anymore. I wish their team the best, but for now, I'm sad to see my favorite disto essentially die a slow death. On the plus side, I have moved on to explore many other distros and am finding many more suited to my needs and preferences.
Good Question: "The idea with this ongoing new chapter of Peppermint is to provide choice as well as give the user a starting point where in general the system will work with most hardware, but they also have just the very basic tools so that the user can immediately begin to build the system to their needs. That is the core reason we ship with little to no additional software packages." - quote from website PeppermintOS has the ability to make things easier for the less technical user, while still maintaining the ability for more technical users to explore deeper into Linux. The main reason PeppermintOS exists is to integrate well with cloud-based and local-based applications all while providing a low overhead footprint and a distro new users wouldnt run screaming from.
thats a grub + debian 12 issue its in the release notes ... not sure how it affects fresh installs but it appears to mess up upgrades from bullseye as i understood it
I have so much respect about what they are establishing... However, distro planet is extremely fragmented. We all need to unite and put all of the effords into one super distro.
What they need to do is STOP this " upgrading" so often-- once a year or every OTHER year-- like Debian- is PLENTY- This "instant" urge we have caused by microwaves and other tech that supposedly make life better-- is a bunch of BS-- no one NEEDS to upgrade that often.. PERIOD. I LOVE the look of this- and would LOVE to use it-- but I would miss my TILING too much-- my AUTO- tiling with BISMUTH in kde-- or with POP OS shell. I do NOT like key combo tiling- to me that's STUPID.. Do you know of any way to set up Auto-tiling with THIS??
@@corporealundead3085 that's the reason we must have big, strong communities manging distros as viable alternative to corporate software. Instead we have hundreds of copypats with no value al all. Btw, Rocky and Almalinux should cease their projects and embrace a less hostile environment far away from REHL
@@edkalrio - Stating quotes does not help your argument... Even if it is from Linus.....the point still does not make sense... not in the open-source perspective.
very interested in trying out their server variant...sadly there is still no way to put an ARM version of Linux (just, any of them as i understand) on disused chrome devices and i think that'd really crack the nut that is broad ARM adoption for the desktop apart from RPi...i SO very badly wish someone made that happen but it is beyond my skills atm, seems it just wont happen and thats a shame, especially with all of the ewaste that will be generated in the next two years as schools dump pandemic freakout purchases en masse...anyways yea peppermint is a neat one, im looking for an ubuntu replacement maybe ill have to try this one out again (before i end up landing on regular smegular debian)
The PeppermintOS variant is supporting UEFI-only based systems, which I think is the right direction you are quite right ARM is a maze of boot variants from p-boot, shims, hacks to the firmware (Pi) its a mess. NVIDIA has started to actually create a UEFI/BIOS for their Jetson/Orin boards, yeah get it closer to the way a PC works.
@@CyberGizmo well I do hope there's some standardization then if that's the case... specifically for Chromebooks the ewaste is and will continue to be monumental....I'm IT at a school and this year we retired and have to toss 600 of them and it's only of school or about 1500 or so total....I can't even IMAGINE the waste at districts like LA, NYC, Chicago.... admittedly it's not only because of usage it's also a privacy thing but it'd be a good start if we at least had options
Peppermint OS and Linux Mint were the most hassle-free distros I ever tried.
Pepperming was the only Ubuntu distro that didn't cause me massive headaches on distro upgrades (e.g. from 14.04 to 16.04). Regular Ubuntu always broke on me.
The maintainers were always active in the forums and provided swift and accurate solutions. It's a hidden gem
Excellent Distro as is Sparky.
yeah, these small distro's (
great information. even better music! :)
Thanks for stopping by my test stream this morning.
welcome and got a chance to see the new studio, looking good!
@@CyberGizmo thank you
Dropping the candy icon imo is a mistake. It’s immediately identifiable.
I've used Peppermint for quite some time in the past, it's a good distro and Peppermint without the candy symbol is weird for me.
Thanks. I hope to see the Devuan release soon... and hopefully also a video from you on it ;-)
peppermint is awesome to in driver detection , i installed in a old laptop using the sis 671/672 chipset (a lot of distros dont recognize this old chipset and you have to create a massive script in order to work )
Thanks DJ Ware!
You're welcome @valentin65
Thank you for the video DJ Ware, I cannot understand why they remove the Peppermint Logo, but the rest of the distro looks great. I have a spare pc in my garage and will install it on there.
I don't understand why change the branding either. It has done well with that. I'm not sure that is what Mark Greaves would have wanted.
Peppermint was my first real distro I used...and ever since the original lead developer passed away, I have felt like the new team has betrayed the essence of what Peppermint use to be...at least for me.
It feels like they are openly erasing the past to build something new, and the removal of the old candy icon might be the last straw for me.
I'm sure this new thing is great for some, and in truth, the removal of the icon is probably fitting. This new thing isn't really the same Peppermint anymore.
I wish their team the best, but for now, I'm sad to see my favorite disto essentially die a slow death. On the plus side, I have moved on to explore many other distros and am finding many more suited to my needs and preferences.
Feel the same. You figure out your new distro? I'm a hopper myself but I've had Peppermint OS always installed on one of my partitions.
I just used ventoy to install the 64bit version on my old z3735f atom sbc.
What are the benefits of Peppermint over standard Debian with XFCE?
Good Question: "The idea with this ongoing new chapter of Peppermint is to provide choice as well as give the user a starting point where in general the system will work with most hardware, but they also have just the very basic tools so that the user can immediately begin to build the system to their needs. That is the core reason we ship with little to no additional software packages." - quote from website
PeppermintOS has the ability to make things easier for the less technical user, while still maintaining the ability for more technical users to explore deeper into Linux.
The main reason PeppermintOS exists is to integrate well with cloud-based and local-based applications all while providing a low overhead footprint and a distro new users wouldnt run screaming from.
@@CyberGizmo Thank you for the response.
But I always end up using debian
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Welcome to the channel, @matix7241
Not a fan of the new theme, but you can always use Arc dark for instance😉
Great release but they disable the os-prober😂
thats a grub + debian 12 issue its in the release notes ... not sure how it affects fresh installs but it appears to mess up upgrades from bullseye as i understood it
I have so much respect about what they are establishing... However, distro planet is extremely fragmented. We all need to unite and put all of the effords into one super distro.
Arch
What they need to do is STOP this " upgrading" so often-- once a year or every OTHER year-- like Debian- is PLENTY- This "instant" urge we have caused by microwaves and other tech that supposedly make life better-- is a bunch of BS-- no one NEEDS to upgrade that often.. PERIOD. I LOVE the look of this- and would LOVE to use it-- but I would miss my TILING too much-- my AUTO- tiling with BISMUTH in kde-- or with POP OS shell. I do NOT like key combo tiling- to me that's STUPID.. Do you know of any way to set up Auto-tiling with THIS??
I don't get the point. Stop the fragmentation and use Debian
@@corporealundead3085 that's the reason we must have big, strong communities manging distros as viable alternative to corporate software. Instead we have hundreds of copypats with no value al all.
Btw, Rocky and Almalinux should cease their projects and embrace a less hostile environment far away from REHL
@@edkalrio Yeah I agree with @corporealundead3085 your comment does not make any sense.
also, isnt this precisely the point of open source?
@@grafik0859 “Fragmentation is Why Desktop Linux Failed”.
-Linus Torvalds
@@edkalrio - Stating quotes does not help your argument... Even if it is from Linus.....the point still does not make sense... not in the open-source perspective.
It's still one of the ugliest distros I've ever seen.
linux is just not good.
No, you're just not smart enough to use it.
...for you
@@leonbishop7404 yes
But better than Windows😜
hahaha good one
very interested in trying out their server variant...sadly there is still no way to put an ARM version of Linux (just, any of them as i understand) on disused chrome devices and i think that'd really crack the nut that is broad ARM adoption for the desktop apart from RPi...i SO very badly wish someone made that happen but it is beyond my skills atm, seems it just wont happen and thats a shame, especially with all of the ewaste that will be generated in the next two years as schools dump pandemic freakout purchases en masse...anyways yea peppermint is a neat one, im looking for an ubuntu replacement maybe ill have to try this one out again (before i end up landing on regular smegular debian)
The PeppermintOS variant is supporting UEFI-only based systems, which I think is the right direction you are quite right ARM is a maze of boot variants from p-boot, shims, hacks to the firmware (Pi) its a mess. NVIDIA has started to actually create a UEFI/BIOS for their Jetson/Orin boards, yeah get it closer to the way a PC works.
@@CyberGizmo well I do hope there's some standardization then if that's the case... specifically for Chromebooks the ewaste is and will continue to be monumental....I'm IT at a school and this year we retired and have to toss 600 of them and it's only of school or about 1500 or so total....I can't even IMAGINE the waste at districts like LA, NYC, Chicago.... admittedly it's not only because of usage it's also a privacy thing but it'd be a good start if we at least had options