Thanks mate, I really appreciate that. I genuinely love doing them, and I always have new ideas for ways to film or edit them, and I always tell a story ☺
I think it's biggest feature is it's automatic security configuration for sharing files and links. No messing around with ports, just one click like their vpn.❤
Thank you so much for showing the phone setup as well like doing photos backup. Been watching all the reviews and no of them showed it. Thank you so much. Hopefully they can release like Ui drive like an all in one app.
Could you please measure the power consumption with the three hard disks you currently have installed? Is there a sleep mode where hard disks go into standby mode? If so, what is the power consumption here?
I will keep that in mind if I do a part 2 which will include other things and tests mentioned here in the comments. There is no standby mode as far as I know.
Can the UNAS-Pro saturate its 10Gbps SFP+ port by writing to or reading from SSD/s, or through multiple users using the NAS simultaneously? Or will the hardware be a limiting factor here?
Good question. I'll aim to get as close to as I can soon, but I suspect I can get to 6G-ish with the standard HDD. The NAS itself should be able to handle 10G if the drives can.
Hey Lars awesome video love the channel definitely keen to get my hands on the Unas . Just have a question you live in Australia like me and when I try to buy anything from Ubiquiti U.S there is no option to ship to Australia, how do you get around this cheers in advance Dino
Great video - does this NAS offer capability to access files outwith the network? ie thinking remotely from another device such as mobile phone or tablet?
Does it run protect so you can use it for that as well as a NAS? And i wonder if they’ll add UniFi Drive on the NVR devices, as it looks very much like a UNVR Pro. For me just a UNVR (4 bay one) with NAS functionality would be enough :)
I doesn't currently run Protect, but you aren't the first to suggest this. I haven't been game to try and install it via the CLI in case I'd break it 😂
How does this unit handle drive expansion? Say I have all 7 bays filled and I need more storage...Can I swap a drive or two with higher capacities in place and it dynamically adjust the array to make that space available?
Not exactly. You can mark one drive as a "hot spare", which means you can hot swap them if it fails. I don't believe you can dynamically make the partitions bigger/smaller.
@@LarsKlintTech Thanks Lars I totally missed that apparently. Also I had a bigger question regarding the software so I sent you an email. So that is me in case you are wondering when you see it.
Looks good but shame it only supports 1 storage pool, I don't care it doesn't have apps but id love/need it to have 2 storage pools: 1 for VMs maybe ssds and one for backups say 4 large HDDs
I have been waiting to see this come out. Same form factor as the UNVR Pro. I am looking forward to Ubiquiti maybe releasing a 4 bay version for people that want a slightly more economic version and not needing the 7 bays. Only thing I wish is that the PRO versions had 2 SPF+ ports so we could aggregate them and get 20gbps link to the switch. That would be nice on the Pro versions. That would be good for multiple clients. Is the UNAS Pro in General Access, or is it still Early Access? I noticed it is on the UI Store in the New Integartions section.
Looks like UI US have changed it to 4 November for shipping now, but they don't seem to let us purchase from their store anymore. It only allowed to select USA for shipping :/ There ae some Australian sites that have this in stock though, if you look hard enough
As a new subscriber, I really like your videos. Informative and always fun to watch. Perhaps add some information on your real-life experience with power consumption when you review new devices?
Thanks for the kind words, and welcome ☺ Yes, I could do that. In this case, it wasn't my focus, and it is a bit tricky to get the power consumption from this device. I could attach a power monitor plug, but there wasn't room with my current setup. I'll keep it in mind.
Thanks for watching ☺ I have 3 8TB HDD in my case, so I chose the "Unifi RAID" which gives me 16TB storage from 24TB physical space. I would imagine you can mix and match, but I haven't tried. Good question though. I might have to test that somehow.
I must admit that I like the simple setup and administration, but there is more to a modern NAS than just security configuration and file storage. This would be an absolute killer app if it supported docker out of the box and integrated with network to provide reverse proxy services. This would open up a whole range of options, allowing the UNAS Pro to fill nearly all roles in a network stack that don't require a MS Windows server.
@@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- Honestly, not that many. Synology tends to cripple their Docker installs by using their own stripped down UI. QNAP can, but only on their top end models. The only real option to do what a lot of folks want is to purpose build a linux server or modify an existing one to the tune of a LOT more money and a ton of time. Nothing turnkey available for a reasonable price.
Do you mean in the Unifi OS? There is a shutdown feature, but there isn't a way to do it programmatically, such as in a power outage. That is the same with the Unifi NVR.
Get a handle on pipe and water damage in our house we had just renovated and taken over ... or buy a Unifi NAS 🤔😬 I'll have to see if I survive that debate with the wife 😂
Do you think the Dream Machine Pro Max will ever be able to do storage on a smaller scale, just with 1 or 2 disks. The Pro Max is powerful and has 2 hdd bays. Would be great to do this on the Pro Max, then upgrade to this if needed. Thanks
Ahhhh so close of being a greatly useful device for me. The thing I don't get is why they're decoupling sharing drives and the shared links. In Google Drive, or Nextcloud, you can click any file or any folder, and you can share it with anyone, or you can simply create a link. Here you're stuck with only the link option. For users, it seems you can only share other entire drives? Not sub-folders? Why not combine both of these things: Want to share that folder? You can do a link. Or select a User of your desire. Or group...although when I saw other UA-camrs create a User, I didn't see an option for group :( I hope they rethink a bit.
That is a good point. You can share links to both files and folders, or you can assign a user to part of the drive. The idea is to integrate with Unifi ID I think, so you can access directly through that. It isn't designed to be a public cloud storage service.
Techo Tim on UA-cam did a review of this as well. You are going to be disappointed when you get 10gb switch as the limitation is the mechanical drives. 160W is a lot of power now days.
I'd say that could work. As long as the processor can keep up, but streaming is very on and off, so I'd say it would be okay. Interesting experiment though.
Is it true it doesn't do iSCSI or NFS? If so it should be called the "UniFi NAS Home", or "UniFi NAS SMB" I am fine with it not doing containers or VM's, but not doing NAS features such as iSCSI or NFS, and then calling it a "PRO" NAS is ridiculous I am even fine with the price point, but the NAS PRO name without iSCSI or NFS is ridiculous
I am very new to all things NAS nerdery, so I believe that is the case. It supports SMB, so hope fully NFS will be added down the track. What would those two protocols give you over what the UNAS Pro does currently?
I understand that 'it is what it is', and if it does the job well, great. Power usage to me seems a bit high, and I would be much happier if I could use Protect and this NAS as a storage solution for the video files. I dont believe that's supported at the moment. Ive seen 10GB transfers hover around the 550GB mark in another review, I'd reaaaally like that to be nearer the 900MB mark, I look forward to an update when you receive the 10GB switch. I run Unifi 10GB, I have 10GB in my TrueNAS server, my Proxmox server, and my main gaming PC. They all pretty much hit the limit with SFP+ and fiber cabling. I'm sure this will tick more boxes as it matures, but it just 'doesnt feel quite there' for the outlay right now. Thanks for the review :)
I can't wait to test out 10GB too. I will make a part 2 when that happens along with other things to try out. I would be surprised if it becomes more than a "file server" as that seems what it is optimized for, but a combination of the Unifi Protect system would be welcome.
Thanks for pointing that out! Just to clarify, I'm using Starlink, which operates with CGNAT (Carrier-Grade NAT). This means that the IP you're seeing isn't actually my unique public IP, but rather a shared IP used by multiple users. Starlink assigns private IP addresses behind the CGNAT, so individual users don’t get a directly accessible public IP. I appreciate the concern, but in this case, there's no security risk. Thanks for looking out!
Would love to see a smaller/cheaper 1U fanless version. And yes I know it's not synology but at least upnp file sharing for video and music would be nice
An ARM Cortex A57 is somewhere in between a Raspberry PI 3 and 4. I wouldn't call that pretty powerful, especially for a NAS that is supposed to do RAID and integrity checks. How is that RAID realized? Is it BTRFS? It would be too little RAM for ZFS and I hope it isn't hardware RAID.
NO Wake On LAN possible and NO Power Button, this is absolutely annoying for personal home usage... The SMB copy performance on encrypted folders is below horrible....
I guess this device isn't for you then. I have used it for months and I haven't missed neither WOL or a power button. Why do you keep turning yours off anyway?
Love your videos. Keep them up. Full of energy !! After all these years you still make superb videos. Thank you
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that. I genuinely love doing them, and I always have new ideas for ways to film or edit them, and I always tell a story ☺
@@LarsKlintTech I'm there from the first iteration of acloudguru so I've been there a while :-) keep it up. Great fun.
@@solo-j4v Amazing. Thanks for the support ☺
I think it's biggest feature is it's automatic security configuration for sharing files and links. No messing around with ports, just one click like their vpn.❤
Absolutely. I use that a lot, and even Unifi themselves use it as well.
Thank you so much for showing the phone setup as well like doing photos backup. Been watching all the reviews and no of them showed it. Thank you so much. Hopefully they can release like Ui drive like an all in one app.
You are most welcome. It is super useful, even as a website interface. I would be surprised if there wasn't a Drive app coming.
Have you tried link aggregation using both connections on the NAS?
I have not. I will see if I can make that work though. Could be an interesting experiment ☺
Could you please measure the power consumption with the three hard disks you currently have installed?
Is there a sleep mode where hard disks go into standby mode? If so, what is the power consumption here?
I will keep that in mind if I do a part 2 which will include other things and tests mentioned here in the comments.
There is no standby mode as far as I know.
Can you use it for recording from Protect?
No, but I'm hoping that might be a future feature. You should be able to archive to it though.
I'd be keen to know if the UI logo on the inside of the drive bays is the new or old logo.
Super cool can't wait to see what else it will do in the future.
Reading through the comments on this video, there are lots of ideas for what might come.
Will there come a way to share a folder with other users with syncronisation like you can on synology
I'm not sure, but I would imagine lots of features and updates are coming 🙂
Can the UNAS-Pro saturate its 10Gbps SFP+ port by writing to or reading from SSD/s, or through multiple users using the NAS simultaneously? Or will the hardware be a limiting factor here?
Good question. I'll aim to get as close to as I can soon, but I suspect I can get to 6G-ish with the standard HDD. The NAS itself should be able to handle 10G if the drives can.
I have one. Using regular old mechanical hard drives in it. With 3 drives in it, it maxes out the 10Gbps port.
How can someone in Australia order the Unas-Pro and use your affiliate link. It's there an Aus site that I'm missing somewhere?
Unfortunately, the affiliate link doesn't work for Aus. There is no native UI store in Aus 🙁
Does it come with an windows app to sync files?
It does not. Hopefully a future addition.
Are that the typical SATA HDD or are that SAS Drives?
These are SATA HDDs. store.ui.com/us/en/category/cloud-gateways-addons/collections/unifi-accessory-tech-hdd/products/uacc-hdd-e-8tb
@@lucasling5431 I was wondering the same thing, why no body has mentioned those are SATA drives and not SAS
Hey Lars awesome video love the channel definitely keen to get my hands on the Unas . Just have a question you live in Australia like me and when I try to buy anything from Ubiquiti U.S there is no option to ship to Australia, how do you get around this cheers in advance Dino
I buy off various websites in Australia wherever there's stock, but in this case Ubiquity shipped it to me for review.
Great video - does this NAS offer capability to access files outwith the network? ie thinking remotely from another device such as mobile phone or tablet?
I am not sure what you are asking? You'll need a network to get to the device, and then you can access it through unifi.ui.com.
Does it run protect so you can use it for that as well as a NAS?
And i wonder if they’ll add UniFi Drive on the NVR devices, as it looks very much like a UNVR Pro. For me just a UNVR (4 bay one) with NAS functionality would be enough :)
I doesn't currently run Protect, but you aren't the first to suggest this. I haven't been game to try and install it via the CLI in case I'd break it 😂
So when are you getting the 10gb switch? 😜
I really need to get my computer hardware at home sorted.
Apparently it is on the way, so....soon?
How does this unit handle drive expansion? Say I have all 7 bays filled and I need more storage...Can I swap a drive or two with higher capacities in place and it dynamically adjust the array to make that space available?
Not exactly. You can mark one drive as a "hot spare", which means you can hot swap them if it fails. I don't believe you can dynamically make the partitions bigger/smaller.
Can you run a Plex server on here? Or like any other services to tie to Plex or media management (SabnzBd, Radarr, etc)?
No, you can't. As I mention at 13:17 it is a file server only, and that is the intention for the device.
@@LarsKlintTech Thanks Lars I totally missed that apparently. Also I had a bigger question regarding the software so I sent you an email. So that is me in case you are wondering when you see it.
Looks good but shame it only supports 1 storage pool, I don't care it doesn't have apps but id love/need it to have 2 storage pools: 1 for VMs maybe ssds and one for backups say 4 large HDDs
Agree. I wasn't even aware of this at the time, but I hope it can be solved with a future update to the Drive application.
@@LarsKlintTech should be easy enough, if unifi want to do it ... Not like if you need a second 10gbe port for a dedicated storage NIC for instance
Can the UNAS backup PCs? Like the active backup for business tool on synologys nas.
If you can find an app that just needs an IP address for the target, then yes. There are no third party apps on the UNAS Pro though.
@@LarsKlintTech but there is no build in feature currently?
@@Praetorian-Guard There is not.
I have been waiting to see this come out. Same form factor as the UNVR Pro. I am looking forward to Ubiquiti maybe releasing a 4 bay version for people that want a slightly more economic version and not needing the 7 bays. Only thing I wish is that the PRO versions had 2 SPF+ ports so we could aggregate them and get 20gbps link to the switch. That would be nice on the Pro versions. That would be good for multiple clients.
Is the UNAS Pro in General Access, or is it still Early Access? I noticed it is on the UI Store in the New Integartions section.
That sounds like a potential NAS Enterprise feature to have 20G.
No, it is launched, but isn't for sale until 25 Oct I believe.
@@LarsKlintTech Ships October 25 from the US store.
I haven't seen it advertised with any Australian resellers yet though
We need more SFP28 switches 😂
Looks like UI US have changed it to 4 November for shipping now, but they don't seem to let us purchase from their store anymore. It only allowed to select USA for shipping :/ There ae some Australian sites that have this in stock though, if you look hard enough
@@EsotericArctos I doubt they can sell if before the official store though.
As a new subscriber, I really like your videos. Informative and always fun to watch. Perhaps add some information on your real-life experience with power consumption when you review new devices?
Thanks for the kind words, and welcome ☺
Yes, I could do that. In this case, it wasn't my focus, and it is a bit tricky to get the power consumption from this device. I could attach a power monitor plug, but there wasn't room with my current setup. I'll keep it in mind.
Lars you really need a USW-Pro-Aggregation 😄
"Need".
@@LarsKlintTech In Sweden we have a "word" for that "Villhöver" 😍
@@MatsAkerberg Hahaha, exactly! I am willing the need into existence.
Ok... Why isn't anybody talking about the strain on those cat cables coming from patch 12 and 13!!!???
I agree!! In fact, I fixed it with a whole new rack! Check out the latest video for the fix.
Great video! I would love to see how to build RAID arrays. What RAID levels are available? Is it possible to mix and match different HDD sizes?
Thanks for watching ☺ I have 3 8TB HDD in my case, so I chose the "Unifi RAID" which gives me 16TB storage from 24TB physical space.
I would imagine you can mix and match, but I haven't tried. Good question though. I might have to test that somehow.
I must admit that I like the simple setup and administration, but there is more to a modern NAS than just security configuration and file storage. This would be an absolute killer app if it supported docker out of the box and integrated with network to provide reverse proxy services. This would open up a whole range of options, allowing the UNAS Pro to fill nearly all roles in a network stack that don't require a MS Windows server.
These are things that may come in a later update. I think it meets the demands for a large chunk of use cases though, but I hear you.
No, I just want this to be a dumb NAS with a good UI. If you want all that other stuff there are plenty of other options on the market.
@@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- Honestly, not that many. Synology tends to cripple their Docker installs by using their own stripped down UI. QNAP can, but only on their top end models. The only real option to do what a lot of folks want is to purpose build a linux server or modify an existing one to the tune of a LOT more money and a ton of time. Nothing turnkey available for a reasonable price.
is there a way to greacefully shut down the nas in case of a power outage? I mean ..... with a ups of course
Do you mean in the Unifi OS? There is a shutdown feature, but there isn't a way to do it programmatically, such as in a power outage. That is the same with the Unifi NVR.
Get a handle on pipe and water damage in our house we had just renovated and taken over ... or buy a Unifi NAS 🤔😬 I'll have to see if I survive that debate with the wife 😂
Hahaha, that sounds like a cheap water damage repair 😜
@@LarsKlintTech wish it was true :)
I think we all know the correct answer 😊
I would ditch the wife, then you would have enough money to do both and get a beer for afterwards
Do you think the Dream Machine Pro Max will ever be able to do storage on a smaller scale, just with 1 or 2 disks. The Pro Max is powerful and has 2 hdd bays. Would be great to do this on the Pro Max, then upgrade to this if needed. Thanks
I really don't know. 2 HDD isn't really enough for a proper NAS, so not sure.
This device should be able to run protect also
I am sure it can, if that app is developed for the device. Maybe it will come.
A file sync client (very much like dropbox) would be great. This would eliminate the need to download/edit/upload a file when working remotely.
That would be very welcome indeed. Hopefully that is something Unifi is working on.
This would be really nice for my application of they had zfs support but since it's in its beta stages im hopeful for this
What is in beta stage? ZFS support might come, but they gotta start somewhere.
Once it has iscsi and nfs support I’ll get one.
Fair enough. I am still learning about all the NAS specific features that are out there.
It should have had a 2,5Gbps RJ45 port, this now doesn't go together with a my UCG Max 😥 the most HDD RAIDs already go faster than 125MBps.
I wonder if you can use a SFP+ to RJ45 converter instead then?
@@LarsKlintTech That would be the solution, thanks for your suggestion.
@@FE59FE59 let me know what results you get.
Ahhhh so close of being a greatly useful device for me. The thing I don't get is why they're decoupling sharing drives and the shared links. In Google Drive, or Nextcloud, you can click any file or any folder, and you can share it with anyone, or you can simply create a link. Here you're stuck with only the link option.
For users, it seems you can only share other entire drives? Not sub-folders? Why not combine both of these things:
Want to share that folder? You can do a link. Or select a User of your desire. Or group...although when I saw other UA-camrs create a User, I didn't see an option for group :( I hope they rethink a bit.
That is a good point. You can share links to both files and folders, or you can assign a user to part of the drive. The idea is to integrate with Unifi ID I think, so you can access directly through that. It isn't designed to be a public cloud storage service.
I waited so long... i really love it
It's a great device when you take it for what it is meant for. I use it every day.
Techo Tim on UA-cam did a review of this as well. You are going to be disappointed when you get 10gb switch as the limitation is the mechanical drives. 160W is a lot of power now days.
@@ubeaut That is max consumption though. You're not the first to ask either, so I might test to see how much it is using.
Also 6GB > 1GB
Really nice device but the 500 price bracket is out of reach for some people hopefully they make a ultra even if it only takes two or four drives
Could be, and you can certainly find cheaper NAS alternatives. I do think it is reasonably priced, and it works so well.
Holy shit you got one!!!! 🎉
I KNOW!! It is awesome 😁
It might be, that I might want this NAS :)
Haha, it is so fast. And it is reasonably prices as well imo.
@@LarsKlintTech yes, for a storage it might be, but if we allready own a Qnap and Synology..
I bet this will sell out in minutes
I suspect that is why they make them. To sell them 😉
If i can point my plex box to the ubiquiti nas to pull media from and dish it out over the network that's all I need honestly.
I'd say that could work. As long as the processor can keep up, but streaming is very on and off, so I'd say it would be okay. Interesting experiment though.
@LarsKlintTech I'd be interested to see how it would fair in this use case. It will ultimately decide if I go the unas or build my own and run unraid.
awesome! added to shopping list ;)
Don't forget to use the affiliate link, if you get one, please 😁
63 degrees Celsius?!?!? Do you happen to live inside a volcano?!?!? 63 degrees !!!!!!
Where are you seeing this temperature? Time stamp?
NAS has been invented decades ago. I would only be interesting if it could run Protect
Technically it can, and perhaps that is a future improvement?
Is it true it doesn't do iSCSI or NFS?
If so it should be called the "UniFi NAS Home", or "UniFi NAS SMB"
I am fine with it not doing containers or VM's, but not doing NAS features such as iSCSI or NFS, and then calling it a "PRO" NAS is ridiculous
I am even fine with the price point, but the NAS PRO name without iSCSI or NFS is ridiculous
I am very new to all things NAS nerdery, so I believe that is the case. It supports SMB, so hope fully NFS will be added down the track. What would those two protocols give you over what the UNAS Pro does currently?
FINALLY!!!
YES!!
I understand that 'it is what it is', and if it does the job well, great. Power usage to me seems a bit high, and I would be much happier if I could use Protect and this NAS as a storage solution for the video files. I dont believe that's supported at the moment. Ive seen 10GB transfers hover around the 550GB mark in another review, I'd reaaaally like that to be nearer the 900MB mark, I look forward to an update when you receive the 10GB switch. I run Unifi 10GB, I have 10GB in my TrueNAS server, my Proxmox server, and my main gaming PC. They all pretty much hit the limit with SFP+ and fiber cabling. I'm sure this will tick more boxes as it matures, but it just 'doesnt feel quite there' for the outlay right now. Thanks for the review :)
I can't wait to test out 10GB too. I will make a part 2 when that happens along with other things to try out. I would be surprised if it becomes more than a "file server" as that seems what it is optimized for, but a combination of the Unifi Protect system would be welcome.
I doubt that you get 900 MB with that poor CPU. And I guess they run RAID 5 as well.
@@MatsAkerberg I should get a lot more than with 1GB though.
@@LarsKlintTech Yes but probably around 450-500 MB
@@MatsAkerberg I'll take it!! 😁
Bro you are showing you public IP.
Thanks for pointing that out! Just to clarify, I'm using Starlink, which operates with CGNAT (Carrier-Grade NAT). This means that the IP you're seeing isn't actually my unique public IP, but rather a shared IP used by multiple users. Starlink assigns private IP addresses behind the CGNAT, so individual users don’t get a directly accessible public IP. I appreciate the concern, but in this case, there's no security risk. Thanks for looking out!
Would love to see a smaller/cheaper 1U fanless version. And yes I know it's not synology but at least upnp file sharing for video and music would be nice
If this is a success, it might come. Who knows.
Gonna be over $1000 after they add Australia tax and everyone takes a drink.
Should be about AUD899, but you are probably right 😔
An ARM Cortex A57 is somewhere in between a Raspberry PI 3 and 4.
I wouldn't call that pretty powerful, especially for a NAS that is supposed to do RAID and integrity checks.
How is that RAID realized? Is it BTRFS? It would be too little RAM for ZFS and I hope it isn't hardware RAID.
All great questions, and I don't know. Let me know if you find out, as I'd love to learn 🙂
NO Wake On LAN possible and NO Power Button, this is absolutely annoying for personal home usage... The SMB copy performance on encrypted folders is below horrible....
I guess this device isn't for you then. I have used it for months and I haven't missed neither WOL or a power button. Why do you keep turning yours off anyway?
@@dosperado74 to be fair a nas isn’t meant to be powered on and off consistently
To be fair most rack mountable from UniFi does not a power button