Facial recognition improves with exposure just as language. I can clearly remember i had trouble telling asians apart when i was younger, but after having spent a lot of time in east Asia distinguishing east asian faces became just as easy as distinguishing caucasian ones
Yeah that makes sense and all but I have a question tho. I grew up in Mexico and when I came to the USA I had no trouble distinguishing black people from other black people, or white people from other white people nor Indians from other Indians 🇮🇳, but I did with East Asians. You can argue that I was exposed to white people from the media. But blacks and Indians I had no further exposure than what I did with East Asians. So that whole getting used to group of people is true but only up to a certain point. After that there is something that East Asians have that make others perceived them similar.
@@niceguy2527 but almost all Indians 🇮🇳 and Africans have the same hair and same type of eyes and yet are easy distinguishable while East Asians are not.
Same I can tell them apart, but not always, they tend to follow eachother in society, same hair, eye colour, height, weight, eye shape, jawlines, hairlines, noses, makeup, fashion. They lack variations in general more than other races I think.
Hey ProZD! It was so nice of you to take over this channel for a video. I was wondering why your voice wasn't as deep as usual, but good voice actors obviously perfect their craft 😆
This applies to Europeans too, I’m European so I can easily tell the various European ethnicities apart based of facial structure alone. You don’t need to hear them speak their language. It’s pretty easy to tell Europeans apart. But I also believe other races are terrible at telling other racial ethnicities apart. I work with Indians and Pakistanis and many times I’ve been called the name of some other guy who is ginger but I look nothing like him. Meanwhile I mistake them for other people who I think looks like them. It’s normal. Edit: 1:27 okay so you mention this phenomenon
Same, but I'm Asian so I was able to tell this guy is chinese based on his eyes and especially with the lower nose bridge and wider nose at the bottom.
@@vidya2144 So you are telling me that there is no Japanese folks that look like this dude, i saw a video of a plump Japanese dude, he did look a bit similar to this guy. like they could be cousins.
I've been lead to believe that adults aren't actually worse than infants at aquiring language. and in fact, they are more efficient at it. Not only does the adult have greater capacity for processing abstract ideas and turning those into rules to be followed, but they also already conceptually understand some of those abstract ideas, such as "verbs" or "conjugations", meaning they only need to use those concepts in new ways, instead of intuiting those concepts fresh. However, an infant spends many hours every day immersed in their target language, something the majority of adult language learners don't do. Aparently, the ability to recognize and distinguish new sounds is however greatly diminished after around the 2-year old mark.
infants also have no fear of failure, they will keep brute force trying something until it works, wheras adults often stop to learn more if they fail, slowing down the process of making new attempts.
babies have no place in a hierarchy and so they are not anxious about new constructs in foreign environments. Adults have baggage, so they are xenophobic and immerse about as well as a Teflon skillet.
Children also get to "catch up" while the language of their peers is relatively simple while adults have to contend with people who have spoken their language for decades
i personally never understood people who say "all asians look the same" i never understood what they mean do they mean that "chinese/ japanese/koreans look the same " so they can't tell the difference between the 3 nationalities, or do they mean that "all asians look like 1 person", if the last one then it's so not true, although i'm european i rarely notice that someone looks a lot like someone, especially among regular asians, if we talk about celebrities and k-idols in particular it's understandable that they can look similar because their agencies hire artists who fit certain beauty standards, they get plastic surgeries to gain a certain look and have similar hairstyles, but normal people usually don't look similar to me, even if i find a person who resembles another person to me it doesn't happen more often then with white people
For white people, I think it's because the things that vary the most in the facial appearance of Europeans are also the things that vary the least with Asians. 50% of European telling people apart is hair color and type (ever notice how people seem to have a harder time telling bald guys apart?). Asian ethnic groups have way less variation in that way alone, and so a white person who can distinguish their extended family based on what the back of their heads look like struggles with somewhat thin, mostly straight, dark brown to black hair. I also think the stereotype came about when there was far less diversity in haircuts in East Asia. Nowadays you see all kinds of cuts and lengths, but back then there were like three haircuts for men in each nationality, with overlap between nationalities.
I don't have any Asian ancestry; I'm a mix of African and white. But I grew up in a very white culture (suburban Australia, in the 90s) where I was always one of very few (maybe 5 or 6) non-white kids, at a school of 300-400 kids. Both teachers and students would often mix up my name, for the name of one the Asian kids in my year level (our names aren't similar at all; Just common names like Henry, Steven, Andrew etc) I think people just kinda mentally classify people they know into groups. And race (or even just "different race to me") is one of the groups our memory puts people into. So when you're trying to retrieve on person's name, it can be easy to pull out the name of another person in that mental group. I know I've done a similar thing, with two co-workers who don't REALLY look that much alike, but they both have bobbed, dark hair, and dress kinda similar, so I find myself constantly getting their names mixed up. I think I just mentally class them as "women with short, dark hair and old-lady clothes", so they "look the same to me", even though they don't really look the same, beyond those superficial traits.
Living in Asia for a few years I can't remember ever having difficulty telling people apart, at least people I was familiar with. I hope this isn't too controversial, but I would also say that certain communities in Asia are much less genetically diverse than where I'm from in the US. Here I grew up around black folks, asian folks, latino folks, white folks and everything in between. Not to mention all the subvariations of those groups. I myself am part South American native, northern European, Scottish, Irish and Iberian. Most of my friends have similar backgrounds, although of course some are more genetically homogenous. But, in Asia the vast majority of the people I met carried 100% genetic material descending from their country of origin. So Koreans were from families that had always lived in Korea, same in Japan and Vietnam, etc. So I think there may be something to the idea that certain asian communities taken as a whole end up being more similar in their features than more diverse groups. Of course this doesn't apply across asian ethnic groups, only within them.
this is exactly what I thought the video was going to be about, but I was surprised. I still think this is the number 1 explanation even tho the content of the video makes a lot of sense and I was not prepared to be mindblown like this
^ literally this - how is everyone skipping over this obvious point? Europeans have blue, green and brown eyes along with red, blonde, brown and dark hair.
The perceptual narrowing can also apply to many different stimuli like music. Songs from an unfamiliar genre sound the same until you start listening to them to develop insight.
I moved to West Africa for a while and in the beginning it was very hard to distinguish the local people (me being a white dude from Europe), but after a couple of weeks I could see the subtle differences and I didn't find it hard at all anymore. Interesting how the brain works.
@@Truthteller978 That`s why it´s called " _subtle_ " differences. Could you distinguish between a german, a french, a swede and a russian?! There are "subtle" differences, no doubt about it. And your brain only recognizes these things with exposure. Plus it doesn`t mean your brain is right. Just a higher chance of being right. You don`t have to make it about racism.
@@Truthteller978Bro, he was just commenting how people from a region look very similar and that's logical, for example people from the horn of Africa look alike like Mediterranean people look alike, east asians look alike, west africans... They all look very close to each other and it's the exposure that helps us perceive the subtle differences of each individual. it's got nothing to do with racism, me being east asian myself, growing up in Spain i found it hard to distinguish east asian faces, but no problem at all distinguishing more west European faces and Mediterranean.
because 1. we all have the same coloured eyes, skin, eyebrows and hair colour. 2. we all have the same bald cut hairstyle when we were little, and the same semi long hair cut when we grow up 3. you don't see them a lot so you will think they look the same, like how we think all cats that is not our own look the same. To asians, they don't think they look the same
Growing up in India, I used to have the same perception about North Asian people, and I remember people used to call them "Chinese" as they couldn't differentiate their faces and all North Asians looked the same to them, same as our perception about Africans and other races which are homogenous. Still, after moving to a part of India where a significant number of Tibetans were living I was exposed to them and then could differentiate the faces on a personal level, so yeah it's mostly about exposure, once you are exposed to other races you can tell Individuals apart quickly. By the way, I also want to add that I used to think about the topics that you are choosing to make your videos on, and finally, I am glad that someone is covering these interesting topics!! Keep up the good work, this is the 4th video I have watched in a row!!!
Stumbled upon your channel tonight, great channel. Oddly, have had a massive improvement in this specific area because of my rabid Sumo fandom. I went from having a hard time telling the rikishi apart to forgetting that other people have a hard time differentiating between the wrestlers. They have such varying styles of fighting and mannerisms that now even if you blurred their bodies and blocked their heads, I'm pretty sure I could decipher them. By the way, over the span of the few videos I've watched your sub count has been bouncing up, it's fun to watch and deserved.
@@chrism4008hell yeah, hope you are able to watch the last basho! Kinda upset about that Keisho henka.... but ah well. Chiyomaru is my favorite rikishi :)
@@Maplenr i follow a channel on here that NHK continuously takes down with copyright strikes. Then he makes new channels. I know some places to see it live streamed too, but the hours are not great for me being on the east of the US, lol. Hoshoryu is one of my favorites in the higher divisions, but there are so many really fun ones to watch. Ura and Atomic-fuji are also two of my favorites because of their unique styles. In the lower divisions there can be only one favorite: the People's Yokozuna, aka Pappa Gut, aka Big Sexy, the Sumo Elder Statesmen Akiseyama (aka Akisexyama
nice video I enjoyed it! Can you make a video about evolutinary mismatches and the traits we adapted but no longer need or just dont have to rely on them so heavily (otherwise might cause even harm) in this modern era of humanity
Nice video, I found your channel 2 days ago with the "Why jellyfish need sleep too" video. Since then I've watched all your videos and subscribed. Keep up the good work👍🏽
There is this effect that you talked about which is " The other group" effect but still Chinese look alike the most among other asians. My reasoning behind this is if the other group effect is so strong, why wont we feel the same for all other races in the world?
I just assumed the whole point with the asian boybands was that you weren't spouse to be able to tell them apart because they all had cosmetic surgery to look alike. 😯 I've never had any difficulty distinguishing between individuals in the general population but this video got me thinking... Would I actually mistake one person for another in low light conditions etc? I'm curious as to whether different ethnic groups have different priority of visual markers they subconsciously identify when recognizing faces, as per the phenotype they are more commonly exposed to. Say, per example, the nose bridge or lip curvature. Would that translate across broader "race" lines? Would it be easier for an Armenian to differentiate between Mongolians rather than Chinese ?
Don`t underestimate the power of makeup. IE KPop dudes have heavy makeup to bring them closer to the "ideal". And a lot of light hides skin imperfections etc, but also washes away distinguishing features.
I feel like the more you’re exposed to other races, the easier it gets to distinguish differences between people of those races. For example, when I was a teenager and I started getting into east asian media, it was super hard for me to remember which character was which, and who was named what. But now, I genuinely get confused whenever I get told that “they all look the same”, because I can see that they completely do not.
Hey man you earned my sub, you are an excellent teacher, and you have a good sense of humor too. I learned something new today. Thanks again and keep up the great content!
But Im asian and I really think that most of the Kpop members look very much alike and I cant tell the difference other than their hairstyle, height, and clothes! I think the plastic surgery plays a huge part in how we sometimes cant tell people apart. Its like yeah they all look pretty/handsome but theres nothing distinguishing about any of them like they got same nose, same eye shapes, same lips, same body...
The first k-pop boy band I liked was called Shinee and I remember having such a hard time telling them apart at first, but afterwards I was like, "no way! they're so different! how on earth could I not tell them apart!"
I met a couple of Americans and they literally means East - Asians when they say Asians . I am Turkish with blonde hair and fair skin so I said to my friends I am not white due to cultural perspective but they replied cultures don’t important points when we talking about race . Moreover , we ,middle eastern people ,cannot even be called Asian - yellow fellows in these part of world
@@sudebulut6299 Turkey is part of Europe so that is why they consider you white. Unless you are a Siberian turk or something. Would you say you have a similar phenotype to your European neighbours? I wouldn't take it in seriousness though. I'm North-East African and despite us being brown skin Ethiopian/Eritrean Habesha people. They say we are Arabs, Asian or even European mixed.
@@keshi5541 yeah , you are right . However , I never belong to these titles . I know how I look but I feel more comfortable around my Persian or Arabian friends than any West European though . I am not sure even middle eastern people ‘s color , we all are so diverse as you said and cannot be categorized.
@@sudebulut6299 I never said Turkish people are white, there is no real specific colours for humans (e.g Indians and Africans can both be brown) . I'm just saying that Turks closer to Europe tend to be confused for Europeans based off their phenotype. Though obviously this doesn't apply to the whole of Turkey's population. This might sound rude but it doesn't matter how you feel but sadly people will make assumptions like that without asking. In the same way people would make assumptions about me being Indian just based off my face or my name. But I'm actually North-Eastern African. But yes Turkish people are definitely diverse. No doubt. I've met a few in my life including an old highschool friend. Very fun people to hang with.
I agree, Asia is too phenotypically diverse. On the Asian continent you have indigenous people that look like all so-called "race" categories,. They even have really dark-skinned people with curly hair that most people would confuse for native Africans even though their some of Asia's oldest inhabitants.
I've watched 3 of your videos now and was pretty much already set on subscribing to you but man you really sealed the deal with that Prozd joke at the end there. Great stuff man hope the algorthyme favors you soon
My first Kamen Rider series was Blade. It took me quite a while to figure out which medium-hair screaming Japanese pretty boy was which Rider when out of suit. Which was especially embarrassing because they each only had one civilian outfit. My second one, Kiva, did not have that problem and I really never had that problem for other Rider shows. It was JUST Blade and JUST near the start. Am I just stupid?
i'm a korean adopted by white people, and people would always say my sister and I look exactly alike, even though we are not biologically related. just because we are both asian. but on the other hand, some people would also say we look like our mom, which never made any sense to us since shes obviously white. when we met my sister's half biological brother, it cemented into me that people were just weird when they said I look like my sister. because it was obvious that he looked wayyy more similar to her than i did. in high school, people would always say i look like the asian girl from pitch perfect. they even took picures of me when i wasnt looking. i think i look nothing like her. teachers would always mistake me for a different asian girl as well. since i don't know any dna relatives, as i grew older, i noticed biological similarities between family members a lot more and developed a little jealousy about it. it honestly grew my resentment about times when people tried to compare me to other asian people. bc even though i did think it was hard to tell asians apart myself as a kid, now, i do not experience the other race effect with asians at all. instead i experience the "other dna effect"
I have seen 5 black people irl in my entire life, but I can easily distinguish black faces. You can read hundreds of asians comments saying "even I sometimes have a hard time differentiate between certain asian people". There is definitely more to it than just lack of exposure.
One issue is hair color. White folk have a variety of hair colors. Not so with most Asians. I had a Japanese American friend who had brown hair. He said his relatives were constantly asking his parents: "When will his hair turn black?" In addition Europeans and their descendants have a variety of eye colors. Even the process of changing hair color as they age exists. Two of my daughters, and I, inherited my Mom's brown hair. As we reached our early 20's the hair turned black. My youngest daughter and granddaughter had blond hair which turned brown as they aged. No such variety or changes in Asians except black hair to gray.
It's actually interesting because you know those racial traits that mixed people have give them advantage to recognize other race faces that once your ancestor belonged. For example, I'm from Azerbaijan, we are turkic (original turks are asian), but to be honest we have mostly up to 30 percent Central Asian genes and about up to 10 percent from Central and Northern Asia (Turks and Mongol tribes) and the rest is pretty much Local Caucasian genes. What is interesting while some people have recognizing Asian faces I mostly do not unless the faces look really similar even in Asian people themselves. And the funny part is that I look nothing like an Asian maybe sometimes when i gain weight and get round shaped face, but generally no. So it's interesting that the genes that we have such an impact and not all of them are about effecting our look in order to make a real change in our abilities and functioning. btw GREAT VIDEO MAN, KEEP IT UP.
Your videos are a very interesting and effective way to complicate ideas that are often removed of nuance in their "pop-sci" forms that most people encounter. Including links to further reading is also an awesome aspect I love to see! The idea that you ended on, that each and every single human being is unique, is not said enough in my view. Thank you for being a part of that. In v Out Grouping and Us/Them dynamics may be "hard wired" but we can control the "dial" on just how expansive we allow those groups to be. Even with this mindset at the core my own thinking, I find it useful to remind even myself on occasion of this fact: *Every single human being is just as complex, multifaceted and nuanced as yourself, in their own, singular way.* Everyone deserves the same opportunity to be heard and understood as we, ourselves do. Even identical twins, the closest analogue to cloning that occurs in nature shows epigenetic differences that only increase with time, to say nothing of the "nurture" side of the coin. I find it helps to keep this idea in focus when encountering new people. I hope it helps others too.
You literally all have jet black hair and eyes. Europeans have blond, brown, red, dark and every variation in between along with blue, brown, green and every variation in between eye colours. Of course its easier to tell the latter apart then the former.
Some interesting and thought-provoking ideas here. But I feel that there was a major aspect to this that wasn't addressed. And that's related to the objective physical characteristics of ethnic groups. If you look at East Asians, they're mostly black-haired, brown eyes, of similar height, similar hair styles, etc. Compared to Americans they're objectively harder to distinguish given that Americans have much more varied heights, hair color, eye color, hair style, facial hair and so on.
Example, the English gangster's the Kray twins were called identical. They were miles apart in looking like one another but still they were able to switch place's on a visit to prison and escaped. So how does this happen. 🤔☘️
How does plastic surgery factor into this, especially regarding the K-Pop scene? I mean as a European white dude I noticed that I have grown to distinguish between Asian faces way better over time, but I still struggle with K-Pop stars a lot. Could this be caused by their rampant plastic surgery use? I think its similar to Hollywood starlets starting to look similar because theyre all having their cheek fat removed or when the Kardashian look was popular
A very good video Supreme Leader. And you should do the video about in-groups and out-groups if you have time. Also there's something I want to comment on, the "the same as adults learning new languages (...) they might have a harder time than kids". Kids are not good with languages, I never understood why people claim this. A 12 year old is awful at their language, and they've had adults every single day of their life, but in the home and at school, correcting their language usage. An adult that studies and has a teacher will do much more progress in 5 years than a child in 12 while using alot less resources than the child.
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I had the inverse of this when I first saw a black dude in real life. I asked my mom if he was the same kind of black as the actors in American movies because his nose was like 2x bigger.
This sounds cocky, but I think I'm a special case because I have absolutely no problem telling individuals apart, no matter their race. It's so weird to me this ability isn't common (or at least, not as common as I thought it was).
I mean yeah, but... You can't tell me that the genetic homogeneity of populations is the same across all regions of the globe. Take Japan for example. An island, and one which had closed borders for most of its history. I'm not saying that in-group bias isn't it, I'm just saying it isn't the only factor at play here.
You also have to remember that East Asian countries are far more homogeneous than most countries in Western Europe or the US. ''White'' people in those places are largely more mixed, and feature more diverse differences in hair color, eye color, skin color, nose shape, etc, than exist in East Asia. For instance, Greeks or Swedes are lot more homogeneous than many other countries, so their ''white'' residents look a lot more similar to each other than say, the US, where white people come from UK, Italy, Norway, Slovakia, and a number of other countries that bring in their own common traits. Mixing that all into a population, you have a more diverse group of people to look at, all of whom are still considered ''white.''
I used to enjoy KPOP until I found out some of the groups are actually made up of men. I mean, I just thought some groups were butch and the others were into being pretty.
Okay , ik facial recognition is a practice thing and needed for different race. But i want to point one thing, living in US , people here find difficult to differentiate among east asian faces only , not europian, african, middle east, Indians. Why ? Because all other races have distinct features on their face. 1. Different Skin tone For ex, Indian subcontinent itself has so many skin tones variations, so you can clearly identify who is whome where 90%of chinese have similar skin tone. 2. Facial hairs People from other races gets good facial hairs , and many men of these races prefer to keep it on face which makes another distinct feature to identify. Hence these reasons significantly lead all other races to believe that chinese looks all same
When I lived in Japan for a while, I experienced going from having a hard time telling everyone apart to thinking Japanese people were so wildly diverse in looks that one would be a fool to ever confuse anyone. It felt like the sameness melted away over time and everyone’s features became more pronounced the more I was exposed to them. At the end of my stay, I started thinking white people like myself were the ones who looked samey and weird… It might be connected to my medium case of face blindness though, because I’ve experienced something similar among white people: usually every time I meet a new group of people (classmates, colleagues etc) there is going to be a certain number of blonde, blue-eyed women of average stature (a very common phenotype where I live) who dress in a mainstream feminine way, and in the beginning I will be struggling to even identify them as classmates, let alone tell them apart. Usually, I anchor on to someone in the group with an obvious standout trait (mohawk, pink hair, hijab, unusually tall, bald, dresses in a subculture style, etc) just to be able to identify the group. But then, over time, just like the Japanese, the blondes will start to morph into distinct people in my mind, until I can’t understand how I could ever mistake one for another. It’s an absolutely wild feeling.
You say: "That 'Drop' Is something that happens around six months of age. You have it BACKWARDS. it is not a "DROP" but it is rather that there is an INCREASE in the ability to discriminate between faces that are similar to close family members and that are similar to the ones that the babies are exposed to. The baby prioritized distinguishing and analyzing the people that are important in its life, important to its survival and so becomes apt and farmiliar with their features over time. With other faces, they gain no such aptitude.
"there is a clear adaptive advantage to in-groups and out-groups." so... does that advantage persist in the modern day...??? Its a genuine question. tribes still seem to persist even in a wold that is culturally atomized... the people who resist cultural atomization appear to maintain a degree of success... although this could be some kind of placebo or trick of perception rather than a scientific fact.
My 6 year old asked me why chinese people look different from western people. I tried to explain that it must have something to do with genes. Truthfully, it was a tough one to answer. But an interesting question without being offensive, I'm sure if one could go back in time... waay back... the answer will be very intersting to learn. As it must be about the origins of different races. If only there was a documentary I could watch and then share with my daughter..
just how people perceive groups theyre unfamiliar with to us all animals of the same species (except dogs and colors for animals) look the same until we dig deeper edit: some pretty cool new info here i didnt know great vid
Not all Asian peoples like Indians and Russians looks so different but they're also Asians. We should not oversimplify the Asians as on the basis of facial look
I think there are other tendancies that counteract this, otherwise we would never have developed any level of multiracial society or cooperation between groups whatsoever. But perhaps more importantly there are advantages to being able to work with people outside the tribe. For one thing, you could expand the tribe's gene pool: if the tribe has a few consecutive rough winters or something, there might not be enough genetic diversity to go around and what would normally be a stable breeding population might spiral into incest without outsdie . . . intercourse. It's important to remember that incest is one of the few things which is a universal human taboo. That is fundementally what I think counteracts this in-group tendancy: we want our familes to be close. But not _too_ close. In actual life, races that meet each other for the first time usually don't decide to kill each other on sight. The Japanese didn't kill every Portuguese ship that landed on their shores. in fact they quickly reached a mutually benefical arrangement where the Portugese would sell Japanese silver to the Chinese and then use the money to transport Chinese silk back to Japan. It's mainly when people are forced to compromise their way of life that murderous ideological tendancies start to mount. In conclusion, we are adapted to recognize people we are more related too more easily because that has more day-to-day practical applicability. In pre-industrial times, you may have needed to interact with people in the tribe on a constant basis, but you'd only see people outside the tribe infrequently. This explains this phenomenon without assuming that this is about the immidiate threat to one's life that the outgroup supposedly poses. It's more ambiguous. They _might_ be dangerous, but they might be just what you need.
This sounds more like the GAIN of ability at 9 months not loss. Instead the gain of heightened ability to discriminate the common faces babies see as their par is generally lower. It looks like a loss at first glance but its really not, its just a specialized gain causing par to fall below when applied to wider set.
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Facial recognition improves with exposure just as language. I can clearly remember i had trouble telling asians apart when i was younger, but after having spent a lot of time in east Asia distinguishing east asian faces became just as easy as distinguishing caucasian ones
Yeah that makes sense and all but I have a question tho. I grew up in Mexico and when I came to the USA I had no trouble distinguishing black people from other black people, or white people from other white people nor Indians from other Indians 🇮🇳, but I did with East Asians.
You can argue that I was exposed to white people from the media. But blacks and Indians I had no further exposure than what I did with East Asians.
So that whole getting used to group of people is true but only up to a certain point. After that there is something that East Asians have that make others perceived them similar.
Are we going to ignore the elephant in the room how Asians have the same hair and eye colour while Europeans have many variations?
@@niceguy2527 but almost all Indians 🇮🇳 and Africans have the same hair and same type of eyes and yet are easy distinguishable while East Asians are not.
same i couldnt tell asians apart very well until i was around 16 and that was from online exposure
Same I can tell them apart, but not always, they tend to follow eachother in society, same hair, eye colour, height, weight, eye shape, jawlines, hairlines, noses, makeup, fashion.
They lack variations in general more than other races I think.
Hey ProZD! It was so nice of you to take over this channel for a video. I was wondering why your voice wasn't as deep as usual, but good voice actors obviously perfect their craft 😆
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I can't believe you are making UA-cam videos now, John!
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This applies to Europeans too, I’m European so I can easily tell the various European ethnicities apart based of facial structure alone. You don’t need to hear them speak their language. It’s pretty easy to tell Europeans apart.
But I also believe other races are terrible at telling other racial ethnicities apart. I work with Indians and Pakistanis and many times I’ve been called the name of some other guy who is ginger but I look nothing like him. Meanwhile I mistake them for other people who I think looks like them. It’s normal.
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1:27 okay so you mention this phenomenon
Same, but I'm Asian so I was able to tell this guy is chinese based on his eyes and especially with the lower nose bridge and wider nose at the bottom.
That is rich cuz Indians and Pakistanis also have this duality
It is true. I can tell if a person is Nigerian, Kenyan or South African by looking at them. So it is a common thing.
@@FictionHubZA What are you?
@@vidya2144 So you are telling me that there is no Japanese folks that look like this dude, i saw a video of a plump Japanese dude, he did look a bit similar to this guy.
like they could be cousins.
I've been lead to believe that adults aren't actually worse than infants at aquiring language. and in fact, they are more efficient at it. Not only does the adult have greater capacity for processing abstract ideas and turning those into rules to be followed, but they also already conceptually understand some of those abstract ideas, such as "verbs" or "conjugations", meaning they only need to use those concepts in new ways, instead of intuiting those concepts fresh.
However, an infant spends many hours every day immersed in their target language, something the majority of adult language learners don't do.
Aparently, the ability to recognize and distinguish new sounds is however greatly diminished after around the 2-year old mark.
infants also have no fear of failure, they will keep brute force trying something until it works, wheras adults often stop to learn more if they fail, slowing down the process of making new attempts.
babies have no place in a hierarchy and so they are not anxious about new constructs in foreign environments.
Adults have baggage, so they are xenophobic and immerse about as well as a Teflon skillet.
Children also get to "catch up" while the language of their peers is relatively simple while adults have to contend with people who have spoken their language for decades
i personally never understood people who say "all asians look the same" i never understood what they mean do they mean that "chinese/ japanese/koreans look the same " so they can't tell the difference between the 3 nationalities, or do they mean that "all asians look like 1 person", if the last one then it's so not true, although i'm european i rarely notice that someone looks a lot like someone, especially among regular asians, if we talk about celebrities and k-idols in particular it's understandable that they can look similar because their agencies hire artists who fit certain beauty standards, they get plastic surgeries to gain a certain look and have similar hairstyles, but normal people usually don't look similar to me, even if i find a person who resembles another person to me it doesn't happen more often then with white people
The amount of plastic surgery in Seoul... It looks like the children and adults are from two different ethnic groups.
Not to mention that asia includes Indians, Pakistanis and Turks. Not to mention Melanesians who people mistake for Africans.
For white people, I think it's because the things that vary the most in the facial appearance of Europeans are also the things that vary the least with Asians. 50% of European telling people apart is hair color and type (ever notice how people seem to have a harder time telling bald guys apart?). Asian ethnic groups have way less variation in that way alone, and so a white person who can distinguish their extended family based on what the back of their heads look like struggles with somewhat thin, mostly straight, dark brown to black hair. I also think the stereotype came about when there was far less diversity in haircuts in East Asia. Nowadays you see all kinds of cuts and lengths, but back then there were like three haircuts for men in each nationality, with overlap between nationalities.
They really do , and I never knew Asians themselves didn't know that.
Bcuz Chris Tucker said it in "Rush Hour" and popularized it
I don't have any Asian ancestry; I'm a mix of African and white. But I grew up in a very white culture (suburban Australia, in the 90s) where I was always one of very few (maybe 5 or 6) non-white kids, at a school of 300-400 kids.
Both teachers and students would often mix up my name, for the name of one the Asian kids in my year level (our names aren't similar at all; Just common names like Henry, Steven, Andrew etc)
I think people just kinda mentally classify people they know into groups. And race (or even just "different race to me") is one of the groups our memory puts people into. So when you're trying to retrieve on person's name, it can be easy to pull out the name of another person in that mental group.
I know I've done a similar thing, with two co-workers who don't REALLY look that much alike, but they both have bobbed, dark hair, and dress kinda similar, so I find myself constantly getting their names mixed up. I think I just mentally class them as "women with short, dark hair and old-lady clothes", so they "look the same to me", even though they don't really look the same, beyond those superficial traits.
Bro, as an asian, I can't remember anyone's name :(
I also often forget people.
Living in Asia for a few years I can't remember ever having difficulty telling people apart, at least people I was familiar with. I hope this isn't too controversial, but I would also say that certain communities in Asia are much less genetically diverse than where I'm from in the US. Here I grew up around black folks, asian folks, latino folks, white folks and everything in between. Not to mention all the subvariations of those groups. I myself am part South American native, northern European, Scottish, Irish and Iberian. Most of my friends have similar backgrounds, although of course some are more genetically homogenous. But, in Asia the vast majority of the people I met carried 100% genetic material descending from their country of origin. So Koreans were from families that had always lived in Korea, same in Japan and Vietnam, etc. So I think there may be something to the idea that certain asian communities taken as a whole end up being more similar in their features than more diverse groups. Of course this doesn't apply across asian ethnic groups, only within them.
This is a really good point!
this is exactly what I thought the video was going to be about, but I was surprised. I still think this is the number 1 explanation even tho the content of the video makes a lot of sense and I was not prepared to be mindblown like this
@@anais8263east asians themselvs dont have trouble keeping east asians apart as far as i know
Having almost the same hair and eyes colour across entire population doesn't help
^ literally this - how is everyone skipping over this obvious point? Europeans have blue, green and brown eyes along with red, blonde, brown and dark hair.
The perceptual narrowing can also apply to many different stimuli like music. Songs from an unfamiliar genre sound the same until you start listening to them to develop insight.
Unless it's recent pop music xD it's mostly the same and soulless
Best description!
Ah I see, a fellow ProZD subscriber
I moved to West Africa for a while and in the beginning it was very hard to distinguish the local people (me being a white dude from Europe), but after a couple of weeks I could see the subtle differences and I didn't find it hard at all anymore. Interesting how the brain works.
There aren’t subtle differences in black people. We don’t look alike at all. That is just the racism talking.
@@Truthteller978
That`s why it´s called " _subtle_ " differences.
Could you distinguish between a german, a french, a swede and a russian?! There are "subtle" differences, no doubt about it. And your brain only recognizes these things with exposure. Plus it doesn`t mean your brain is right. Just a higher chance of being right.
You don`t have to make it about racism.
its almost like he was talking about groups in one place and not an entire race@@Truthteller978
@@Truthteller978 don't be narrow-minded.
@@Truthteller978Bro, he was just commenting how people from a region look very similar and that's logical, for example people from the horn of Africa look alike like Mediterranean people look alike, east asians look alike, west africans...
They all look very close to each other and it's the exposure that helps us perceive the subtle differences of each individual. it's got nothing to do with racism, me being east asian myself, growing up in Spain i found it hard to distinguish east asian faces, but no problem at all distinguishing more west European faces and Mediterranean.
Very interesting stuff! The in-group and out-group reasoning makes a lot of sense.
That closing did get a laugh out of me. Good stuff, man! 👍
I appreciate the continued support! :))
To the KPop point they also get so much surgery almost to look the same
Holy crap, dude. Keep making videos like this and it will only be a matter of time before your channel explodes. This video was crazy good.
because
1. we all have the same coloured eyes, skin, eyebrows and hair colour.
2. we all have the same bald cut hairstyle when we were little, and the same semi long hair cut when we grow up
3. you don't see them a lot so you will think they look the same, like how we think all cats that is not our own look the same. To asians, they don't think they look the same
i think all cats have different faces and sometimes i see cats whose faces look like faces of my cats😀
Growing up in India, I used to have the same perception about North Asian people, and I remember people used to call them "Chinese" as they couldn't differentiate their faces and all North Asians looked the same to them, same as our perception about Africans and other races which are homogenous. Still, after moving to a part of India where a significant number of Tibetans were living I was exposed to them and then could differentiate the faces on a personal level, so yeah it's mostly about exposure, once you are exposed to other races you can tell Individuals apart quickly.
By the way, I also want to add that I used to think about the topics that you are choosing to make your videos on, and finally, I am glad that someone is covering these interesting topics!! Keep up the good work, this is the 4th video I have watched in a row!!!
Stumbled upon your channel tonight, great channel. Oddly, have had a massive improvement in this specific area because of my rabid Sumo fandom. I went from having a hard time telling the rikishi apart to forgetting that other people have a hard time differentiating between the wrestlers. They have such varying styles of fighting and mannerisms that now even if you blurred their bodies and blocked their heads, I'm pretty sure I could decipher them. By the way, over the span of the few videos I've watched your sub count has been bouncing up, it's fun to watch and deserved.
Im also a massive sumo fan!! I just started watching about a year ago, and its my favorite sport to watch that i dont play
@@chrism4008hell yeah, hope you are able to watch the last basho! Kinda upset about that Keisho henka.... but ah well. Chiyomaru is my favorite rikishi :)
@@Maplenr i follow a channel on here that NHK continuously takes down with copyright strikes. Then he makes new channels. I know some places to see it live streamed too, but the hours are not great for me being on the east of the US, lol.
Hoshoryu is one of my favorites in the higher divisions, but there are so many really fun ones to watch. Ura and Atomic-fuji are also two of my favorites because of their unique styles.
In the lower divisions there can be only one favorite: the People's Yokozuna, aka Pappa Gut, aka Big Sexy, the Sumo Elder Statesmen Akiseyama (aka Akisexyama
Fun and interesting video and thanks for adding sources in the description
No problem! Glad you enjoyed!
Omg same my teacher would always confuse me with another Asian girl but we don’t even look alike AT all.
nice video I enjoyed it! Can you make a video about evolutinary mismatches and the traits we adapted but no longer need or just dont have to rely on them so heavily (otherwise might cause even harm) in this modern era of humanity
Thanks! That's actually on my list of video ideas so I'll be sure to make it!
This is such amazing content, I am glad I stumbled upon this channel.
Nice video, I found your channel 2 days ago with the "Why jellyfish need sleep too" video. Since then I've watched all your videos and subscribed. Keep up the good work👍🏽
I really appreciate it! I'll try my best to keep it up.
There is this effect that you talked about which is " The other group" effect but still Chinese look alike the most among other asians. My reasoning behind this is if the other group effect is so strong, why wont we feel the same for all other races in the world?
I just assumed the whole point with the asian boybands was that you weren't spouse to be able to tell them apart because they all had cosmetic surgery to look alike. 😯 I've never had any difficulty distinguishing between individuals in the general population but this video got me thinking... Would I actually mistake one person for another in low light conditions etc? I'm curious as to whether different ethnic groups have different priority of visual markers they subconsciously identify when recognizing faces, as per the phenotype they are more commonly exposed to. Say, per example, the nose bridge or lip curvature. Would that translate across broader "race" lines? Would it be easier for an Armenian to differentiate between Mongolians rather than Chinese ?
Don`t underestimate the power of makeup. IE KPop dudes have heavy makeup to bring them closer to the "ideal". And a lot of light hides skin imperfections etc, but also washes away distinguishing features.
Excellent video, ProZD. Get those videos above 8 mins long so that once you're eligible, you can monetise them.
I feel like the more you’re exposed to other races, the easier it gets to distinguish differences between people of those races. For example, when I was a teenager and I started getting into east asian media, it was super hard for me to remember which character was which, and who was named what. But now, I genuinely get confused whenever I get told that “they all look the same”, because I can see that they completely do not.
Hey man you earned my sub, you are an excellent teacher, and you have a good sense of humor too. I learned something new today. Thanks again and keep up the great content!
But Im asian and I really think that most of the Kpop members look very much alike and I cant tell the difference other than their hairstyle, height, and clothes! I think the plastic surgery plays a huge part in how we sometimes cant tell people apart. Its like yeah they all look pretty/handsome but theres nothing distinguishing about any of them like they got same nose, same eye shapes, same lips, same body...
They look really effeminate to me. Do Asian chicks dig that?
The first k-pop boy band I liked was called Shinee and I remember having such a hard time telling them apart at first, but afterwards I was like, "no way! they're so different! how on earth could I not tell them apart!"
This is a criminally underrated channel.
You have to be specific because Indians, Turkesh, Kazakstan, etc. are asians and they have variant features. East asians shouldve been the title
I met a couple of Americans and they literally means East - Asians when they say Asians . I am Turkish with blonde hair and fair skin so I said to my friends I am not white due to cultural perspective but they replied cultures don’t important points when we talking about race . Moreover , we ,middle eastern people ,cannot even be called Asian - yellow fellows in these part of world
@@sudebulut6299 Turkey is part of Europe so that is why they consider you white. Unless you are a Siberian turk or something. Would you say you have a similar phenotype to your European neighbours?
I wouldn't take it in seriousness though. I'm North-East African and despite us being brown skin Ethiopian/Eritrean Habesha people. They say we are Arabs, Asian or even European mixed.
@@keshi5541 yeah , you are right . However , I never belong to these titles . I know how I look but I feel more comfortable around my Persian or Arabian friends than any West European though . I am not sure even middle eastern people ‘s color , we all are so diverse as you said and cannot be categorized.
@@sudebulut6299 I never said Turkish people are white, there is no real specific colours for humans (e.g Indians and Africans can both be brown) . I'm just saying that Turks closer to Europe tend to be confused for Europeans based off their phenotype. Though obviously this doesn't apply to the whole of Turkey's population.
This might sound rude but it doesn't matter how you feel but sadly people will make assumptions like that without asking. In the same way people would make assumptions about me being Indian just based off my face or my name. But I'm actually North-Eastern African.
But yes Turkish people are definitely diverse. No doubt. I've met a few in my life including an old highschool friend. Very fun people to hang with.
I agree, Asia is too phenotypically diverse. On the Asian continent you have indigenous people that look like all so-called "race" categories,. They even have really dark-skinned people with curly hair that most people would confuse for native Africans even though their some of Asia's oldest inhabitants.
Best random UA-cam channel i found
My brain only perceives that all Asian people look like alike. However I don’t have that trouble with other races.
I've watched 3 of your videos now and was pretty much already set on subscribing to you but man you really sealed the deal with that Prozd joke at the end there. Great stuff man hope the algorthyme favors you soon
Seeing this channel grow before my eyes is soo fireeeeee
This is really interesting to learn about!! Thank you for making the video and sharing the info!
My first Kamen Rider series was Blade. It took me quite a while to figure out which medium-hair screaming Japanese pretty boy was which Rider when out of suit. Which was especially embarrassing because they each only had one civilian outfit. My second one, Kiva, did not have that problem and I really never had that problem for other Rider shows. It was JUST Blade and JUST near the start. Am I just stupid?
Yoooo Ryan Higa is back!!
Wow I really got something from this video. Thank you for sharing your thoughts to the world :)
very nice, as always btw you do look like a very slim kim, but hey that might be my percetuall narrowing speaking
Haha thanks! Slim Kim 😭
@@daninblue ay thats a cool nick hahaha
You deserve more views and subscribers bro. Amazing content.
i'm a korean adopted by white people, and people would always say my sister and I look exactly alike, even though we are not biologically related. just because we are both asian. but on the other hand, some people would also say we look like our mom, which never made any sense to us since shes obviously white. when we met my sister's half biological brother, it cemented into me that people were just weird when they said I look like my sister. because it was obvious that he looked wayyy more similar to her than i did. in high school, people would always say i look like the asian girl from pitch perfect. they even took picures of me when i wasnt looking. i think i look nothing like her. teachers would always mistake me for a different asian girl as well. since i don't know any dna relatives, as i grew older, i noticed biological similarities between family members a lot more and developed a little jealousy about it. it honestly grew my resentment about times when people tried to compare me to other asian people. bc even though i did think it was hard to tell asians apart myself as a kid, now, i do not experience the other race effect with asians at all. instead i experience the "other dna effect"
man this is some good content, thanks for talking abt it!
I have seen 5 black people irl in my entire life, but I can easily distinguish black faces.
You can read hundreds of asians comments saying "even I sometimes have a hard time differentiate between certain asian people".
There is definitely more to it than just lack of exposure.
Possibly inbreeding?
@@allanshpeley4284 no, its a lack of media exposure
Great video. Keep it up Steven Yuen.
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I thought he was Bobby Lee at first..... Damn great video! Explains a lot!
Oh great leader, we are blessed with another video, truly a glorious day indeed!
One issue is hair color. White folk have a variety of hair colors. Not so with most Asians. I had a Japanese American friend who had brown hair. He said his relatives were constantly asking his parents: "When will his hair turn black?" In addition Europeans and their descendants have a variety of eye colors. Even the process of changing hair color as they age exists. Two of my daughters, and I, inherited my Mom's brown hair. As we reached our early 20's the hair turned black. My youngest daughter and granddaughter had blond hair which turned brown as they aged. No such variety or changes in Asians except black hair to gray.
"What are my real celebrity lookalikes?" (First picture is Kim Jong Un) "😢"
~Meanwhile, I'm dying of uncontrollable laughter 🤣
It's actually interesting because you know those racial traits that mixed people have give them advantage to recognize other race faces that once your ancestor belonged. For example, I'm from Azerbaijan, we are turkic (original turks are asian), but to be honest we have mostly up to 30 percent Central Asian genes and about up to 10 percent from Central and Northern Asia (Turks and Mongol tribes) and the rest is pretty much Local Caucasian genes. What is interesting while some people have recognizing Asian faces I mostly do not unless the faces look really similar even in Asian people themselves. And the funny part is that I look nothing like an Asian maybe sometimes when i gain weight and get round shaped face, but generally no. So it's interesting that the genes that we have such an impact and not all of them are about effecting our look in order to make a real change in our abilities and functioning.
btw GREAT VIDEO MAN, KEEP IT UP.
Your videos are a very interesting and effective way to complicate ideas that are often removed of nuance in their "pop-sci" forms that most people encounter. Including links to further reading is also an awesome aspect I love to see!
The idea that you ended on, that each and every single human being is unique, is not said enough in my view. Thank you for being a part of that. In v Out Grouping and Us/Them dynamics may be "hard wired" but we can control the "dial" on just how expansive we allow those groups to be.
Even with this mindset at the core my own thinking, I find it useful to remind even myself on occasion of this fact: *Every single human being is just as complex, multifaceted and nuanced as yourself, in their own, singular way.* Everyone deserves the same opportunity to be heard and understood as we, ourselves do. Even identical twins, the closest analogue to cloning that occurs in nature shows epigenetic differences that only increase with time, to say nothing of the "nurture" side of the coin. I find it helps to keep this idea in focus when encountering new people. I hope it helps others too.
Thanks this was a cool video and i have wondered about this. Great video.
You literally all have jet black hair and eyes.
Europeans have blond, brown, red, dark and every variation in between along with blue, brown, green and every variation in between eye colours.
Of course its easier to tell the latter apart then the former.
Some interesting and thought-provoking ideas here. But I feel that there was a major aspect to this that wasn't addressed. And that's related to the objective physical characteristics of ethnic groups. If you look at East Asians, they're mostly black-haired, brown eyes, of similar height, similar hair styles, etc. Compared to Americans they're objectively harder to distinguish given that Americans have much more varied heights, hair color, eye color, hair style, facial hair and so on.
Good video my guy
Appreciate it!
Example, the English gangster's the Kray twins were called identical. They were miles apart in looking like one another but still they were able to switch place's on a visit to prison and escaped. So how does this happen. 🤔☘️
Your so smart.keep making videos ❤
I appreciate your sharp wit. I feel that it adds to the educational value of your videos.
LMAO at Dan looking like Kim Jong Un!!!!!
Great video, and the algorithm knows it too. Congratulations have a good one
1:12 why is this so funny
How does plastic surgery factor into this, especially regarding the K-Pop scene? I mean as a European white dude I noticed that I have grown to distinguish between Asian faces way better over time, but I still struggle with K-Pop stars a lot. Could this be caused by their rampant plastic surgery use? I think its similar to Hollywood starlets starting to look similar because theyre all having their cheek fat removed or when the Kardashian look was popular
clicked on this video and i only just realized that it only has 144 views, this is really good
Hey I appreciate it!
A very good video Supreme Leader. And you should do the video about in-groups and out-groups if you have time.
Also there's something I want to comment on, the "the same as adults learning new languages (...) they might have a harder time than kids". Kids are not good with languages, I never understood why people claim this. A 12 year old is awful at their language, and they've had adults every single day of their life, but in the home and at school, correcting their language usage. An adult that studies and has a teacher will do much more progress in 5 years than a child in 12 while using alot less resources than the child.
Keep up the good work man vid quality is better every time you make one as a fellow content creator hope your channel blow up, my only imput would be the background geta banner or something on the wall would be a nice ascetic I think keep up the great work your channel has aslot of intriguing video ideas this ccontent is ODINsARMY approved 😎
ngl... the first time I saw your videos I did think you looked like Kim Jong Un with a mullet...
I had the inverse of this when I first saw a black dude in real life. I asked my mom if he was the same kind of black as the actors in American movies because his nose was like 2x bigger.
This sounds cocky, but I think I'm a special case because I have absolutely no problem telling individuals apart, no matter their race. It's so weird to me this ability isn't common (or at least, not as common as I thought it was).
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I mean yeah, but... You can't tell me that the genetic homogeneity of populations is the same across all regions of the globe. Take Japan for example. An island, and one which had closed borders for most of its history. I'm not saying that in-group bias isn't it, I'm just saying it isn't the only factor at play here.
Lovin ur videos bro, subject of substance, thanks, good luck 🤞
You also have to remember that East Asian countries are far more homogeneous than most countries in Western Europe or the US. ''White'' people in those places are largely more mixed, and feature more diverse differences in hair color, eye color, skin color, nose shape, etc, than exist in East Asia.
For instance, Greeks or Swedes are lot more homogeneous than many other countries, so their ''white'' residents look a lot more similar to each other than say, the US, where white people come from UK, Italy, Norway, Slovakia, and a number of other countries that bring in their own common traits. Mixing that all into a population, you have a more diverse group of people to look at, all of whom are still considered ''white.''
Yeah you do kinda look like Freddy from ICarly. I can see what they mean
Without watching the video i want to say because you decide to
i keep doing this with two white girls at my work 😭 i dont mean to do it but im getting better at telling them apart
Love ur speaking voice
I used to enjoy KPOP until I found out some of the groups are actually made up of men. I mean, I just thought some groups were butch and the others were into being pretty.
I am all for representation but not forced representation
Dang UA-cam is giving me good channels
Subbed bro!
Great vid!
It also doesn't exactly help that the K-pop scene promotes a very specific look which discourages unique traits and features...
This should be taught in basic school. It's just Science
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I was going to say, I can't believe Kim Jong Un has a UA-cam channel. Also, Garrett Wang from ST:VOY and that Korean guy from MAD TV.
good shit man
Okay , ik facial recognition is a practice thing and needed for different race. But i want to point one thing, living in US , people here find difficult to differentiate among east asian faces only , not europian, african, middle east, Indians.
Why ?
Because all other races have distinct features on their face.
1. Different Skin tone For ex, Indian subcontinent itself has so many skin tones variations, so you can clearly identify who is whome where 90%of chinese have similar skin tone.
2. Facial hairs
People from other races gets good facial hairs , and many men of these races prefer to keep it on face which makes another distinct feature to identify.
Hence these reasons significantly lead all other races to believe that chinese looks all same
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Maybe for the same reason why I think all Europeans look the same
When I lived in Japan for a while, I experienced going from having a hard time telling everyone apart to thinking Japanese people were so wildly diverse in looks that one would be a fool to ever confuse anyone. It felt like the sameness melted away over time and everyone’s features became more pronounced the more I was exposed to them. At the end of my stay, I started thinking white people like myself were the ones who looked samey and weird…
It might be connected to my medium case of face blindness though, because I’ve experienced something similar among white people: usually every time I meet a new group of people (classmates, colleagues etc) there is going to be a certain number of blonde, blue-eyed women of average stature (a very common phenotype where I live) who dress in a mainstream feminine way, and in the beginning I will be struggling to even identify them as classmates, let alone tell them apart. Usually, I anchor on to someone in the group with an obvious standout trait (mohawk, pink hair, hijab, unusually tall, bald, dresses in a subculture style, etc) just to be able to identify the group. But then, over time, just like the Japanese, the blondes will start to morph into distinct people in my mind, until I can’t understand how I could ever mistake one for another. It’s an absolutely wild feeling.
Sorry to say it, but you kinda do look like Freddy
You say: "That 'Drop' Is something that happens around six months of age.
You have it BACKWARDS. it is not a "DROP" but it is rather that there is an INCREASE in the ability to discriminate between faces that are similar to close family members and that are similar to the ones that the babies are exposed to.
The baby prioritized distinguishing and analyzing the people that are important in its life, important to its survival and so becomes apt and farmiliar with their features over time. With other faces, they gain no such aptitude.
"there is a clear adaptive advantage to in-groups and out-groups." so... does that advantage persist in the modern day...??? Its a genuine question. tribes still seem to persist even in a wold that is culturally atomized... the people who resist cultural atomization appear to maintain a degree of success... although this could be some kind of placebo or trick of perception rather than a scientific fact.
My 6 year old asked me why chinese people look different from western people. I tried to explain that it must have something to do with genes. Truthfully, it was a tough one to answer. But an interesting question without being offensive, I'm sure if one could go back in time... waay back... the answer will be very intersting to learn. As it must be about the origins of different races. If only there was a documentary I could watch and then share with my daughter..
just how people perceive groups theyre unfamiliar with
to us all animals of the same species (except dogs and colors for animals) look the same until we dig deeper
edit: some pretty cool new info here i didnt know great vid
Not all Asian peoples like Indians and Russians looks so different but they're also Asians. We should not oversimplify the Asians as on the basis of facial look
its the epicanthic eye fold people mostly only identify
I think there are other tendancies that counteract this, otherwise we would never have developed any level of multiracial society or cooperation between groups whatsoever.
But perhaps more importantly there are advantages to being able to work with people outside the tribe. For one thing, you could expand the tribe's gene pool: if the tribe has a few consecutive rough winters or something, there might not be enough genetic diversity to go around and what would normally be a stable breeding population might spiral into incest without outsdie . . . intercourse.
It's important to remember that incest is one of the few things which is a universal human taboo.
That is fundementally what I think counteracts this in-group tendancy: we want our familes to be close. But not _too_ close.
In actual life, races that meet each other for the first time usually don't decide to kill each other on sight. The Japanese didn't kill every Portuguese ship that landed on their shores. in fact they quickly reached a mutually benefical arrangement where the Portugese would sell Japanese silver to the Chinese and then use the money to transport Chinese silk back to Japan.
It's mainly when people are forced to compromise their way of life that murderous ideological tendancies start to mount.
In conclusion, we are adapted to recognize people we are more related too more easily because that has more day-to-day practical applicability. In pre-industrial times, you may have needed to interact with people in the tribe on a constant basis, but you'd only see people outside the tribe infrequently. This explains this phenomenon without assuming that this is about the immidiate threat to one's life that the outgroup supposedly poses. It's more ambiguous. They _might_ be dangerous, but they might be just what you need.
Now I can't erase this Kim from you 😂
This sounds more like the GAIN of ability at 9 months not loss. Instead the gain of heightened ability to discriminate the common faces babies see as their par is generally lower. It looks like a loss at first glance but its really not, its just a specialized gain causing par to fall below when applied to wider set.
Meanwhile me who cannot distinguish between a lot of people of my race🤡
People looking so normal you can confuse them with others.
Your videos are top tier quality! Can't believe your Channel is only this small, but I am sure you'll blow up in due time! Keep up the excellent work. Love from Germany ❤
watch thai drama movies .you will see how asian actors are cute and attractive.😊