I don’t own a trike, but I still like this video because it shows how you guys have such meticulous attention to detail and specs - which is what makes your products so great. Keep on cranking out the awesome videos. 💪🏻
Nice video, guys. Funny how we were just chatting yesterday about suspension and my RG3. Looking forward to your future videos. Y’all have a blessed weekend.
We never did cams in the Twin Cams. Crank is too prone to shifting. We never recommend or put anything on our site that we do not run on our own bikes. You can plug, weld and balance a Twin Cam crank, but it is expensive. That said, there are a ton of good TC cams out there...but we shy away because of the crank.
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong please, but I thought you mentioned in a previous video (not sure which one) that the newest model years DID already have the lift kit? Just purchased a 2023 Tri-glide and I'm confused.
No, we have never said that, nor printed that anywhere. It is absolutely false...even though there are folks running around in Dealerships and on forums saying that. That is one of the reasons we have made this 3 part series...in either part 2 or part 3 (Dwayne has not edited them yet) we will explain WHY some people think that. The part numbers for where the shocks mount are exactly the same on the 2023 as on the 2009-2022 models.
Yeah, we saw that misinformation in a Video on youtube about a month ago. Unfortunately the guy making the video owns a Tri Glide and was saying in the video saying that his Parts Guy at the Harley Dealership, whom he trust 100%, told him that. The unfortunate part is that over 5000 folks had viewed this misinformation. He posted the video on Trike Talk and got hammered pretty good by the members there that know better. He has since taken that particular video down. But the misinfo was already spread.
Have you guys gotten your hands on an RG3 or Freewheeler with the 18" rear and 19" front tires? Want to do a suspension upgrade looking for real world testing. Got my new RG3 in February. Needs a better suspension
Congrats on your new ride! We have not ridden an RG3, but they have exactly the same size front and rear tires as the previous years CVO Trikes. We have a lot of experience with those low profile tires...unfortunately they make an already rough riding OEM suspension even rougher because of lack of sidewalls that can give a little flex. Here is a report on suspension testing, utilizing input from 6 different riders- www.dkcustomproducts.com/overview-of-performance-rear-shocks-98.htm And here is a video of Trike Suspension testing, using a bump recorder (charts included) to show the differences between OEM shocks and good shocks- ua-cam.com/video/Z4Dhg48_KQA/v-deo.html
I recomend Legon air ride, they are the best ride and adjustable on the fly. Know this is not what you guys are selling now but if you did make a air ride system it would be the best on the market because you guys do the research first. Great information.
Thanks, glad you found the video useful/interesting. We are a dealer for Legend, and can certainly sell any of the Legend suspension components. Unfortunately air ride just does not give a quality ride like properly valved coil shocks. We used to build air ride suspension for Baggers and Trikes that was adjustable on the fly. (called the MacAir) There is a cool factor in being able to raise a bike up and drop it down when parking...and, of course, being able to adjust it to road and load conditions will enhance the quality, but even with on the fly adjustment, it is not close to the ride quality of good shocks. Here is a comparison report on many of the popular shock options out there- www.dkcustomproducts.com/overview-of-performance-rear-shocks-98.htm
I was also told by my dealer that my '19 had the lift kit installed from the factory. Why would they say crap like that if it's not true? I mean, what possible good could come from lying about it?
They probably don't know they are not telling the truth. They probably think that since the ass end of the trike is no longer dragging/drooping that it must be because there is a lift kit installed. *They don't know their product.* The reason the 19 & later are not sitting low in the rear is because Harley changed to those awful coil over shocks that have no sag. Of course, it is physically impossible to have good ride quality out of a shock without at least 25% sag, preferably 30% sag.
What year did HD take over the Trike production from Lehman Trike? Was the quality improved by HD from the original Lehman Trike in your opinion? If yes, please expand. Thank you.
HD took over production for the 2011 models. The only difference between 2009-2010 models and 2011 models is the gearing. Harley changed pulleys to make the gearing just a little bit lower. A lot of folk appreciated the lower gearing, some not so much. Hard to please everyone. Other than that I am not aware of any other changes in parts used. As far as assembly of the parts...hard to say if Lehman or HD paid better attention in the process.
@@DKCustomProducts thank you. I have a customer with a 2010 Tri Glide Ultra Classic-surely that came out of the HD factory and not the Lehman factory, as you mentioned that the 2009-2010 Trikes were produced by Lehman.
There are many articles you can see with a google search that Lehman and Harley were partners for the 2009 & 2010 models. Here is a link to just one of them. www.visordown.com/news/industry/harley-trikes-built-house-2011#:~:text=however%20Harley%20has%20said%20this,Harley%2DDavidson%20trikes%20since%202008.
I am not sure what you mean by "regular shocks". For proper handling and comfort, the shocks should be designed for a Harley Trike. We have 3 different shocks that we recommend for any Harley Trike, they can be seen at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/rear-shocks-c651-269.htm Here's a video that you may find interesting/useful- ua-cam.com/video/vbU6fdtxjSI/v-deo.html Always feel free to email or call us with any questions. Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828
We ride, a lot. We have common sense, which, unfortunately is not too common, especially among engineers. (no offense to engineers reading this) We also do extensive testing. The process on the Trikes has been a long one, involving over a quarter million miles on various HD Trikes. Almost always when we are riding we are testing one or more parts. Some make it, some don't. Here is a link to just one of our "torture tests", a ride to the Arctic Circle and back- www.dkcustomproducts.com/acl/kevin-mary-s-ride-to-alaska-arctic-circle-and-back-2013.htm Feel free to email or call with any questions: Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828
I don’t own a trike, but I still like this video because it shows how you guys have such meticulous attention to detail and specs - which is what makes your products so great. Keep on cranking out the awesome videos. 💪🏻
Wow, thanks!
Great to hear that you are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍
Excellent and very informative video, can’t wait for the next episode(s) digging deeper into this subject
Awesome, thank you!
Nice video, guys. Funny how we were just chatting yesterday about suspension and my RG3. Looking forward to your future videos. Y’all have a blessed weekend.
Thanks, you too!👍
Thank you so much for the trike videos not a lot of them our there for info
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the comment. 👍😎👍
The low-profile tires being bigger with net change your speedometer readings also
Yes, unless they have it programmed in to compensate for the tire difference. We have not looked into that.
Great information as usual. Thanks. Have you considered doing 1-2 videos on #trike specific cams? Especially for us still rolling TC engines🤣
We never did cams in the Twin Cams. Crank is too prone to shifting.
We never recommend or put anything on our site that we do not run on our own bikes. You can plug, weld and balance a Twin Cam crank, but it is expensive.
That said, there are a ton of good TC cams out there...but we shy away because of the crank.
Thanks. I understand what you’re saying.
@@jman6621 You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong please, but I thought you mentioned in a previous video (not sure which one) that the newest model years DID already have the lift kit? Just purchased a 2023 Tri-glide and I'm confused.
No, we have never said that, nor printed that anywhere. It is absolutely false...even though there are folks running around in Dealerships and on forums saying that.
That is one of the reasons we have made this 3 part series...in either part 2 or part 3 (Dwayne has not edited them yet) we will explain WHY some people think that.
The part numbers for where the shocks mount are exactly the same on the 2023 as on the 2009-2022 models.
@@DKCustomProducts That is 100% correct as I also checked the part numbers for where the shocks mount and they are all the same from 2009 to 2023.
Ok, my bad! Must have picked it up on another video. Appreciate the response and looking forward to the rest of this series.
Congrats on your 2023 TG. Wishing you many miles of smiles on it.
Thanks for the comment!
Yeah, we saw that misinformation in a Video on youtube about a month ago. Unfortunately the guy making the video owns a Tri Glide and was saying in the video saying that his Parts Guy at the Harley Dealership, whom he trust 100%, told him that.
The unfortunate part is that over 5000 folks had viewed this misinformation.
He posted the video on Trike Talk and got hammered pretty good by the members there that know better. He has since taken that particular video down. But the misinfo was already spread.
Have you guys gotten your hands on an RG3 or Freewheeler with the 18" rear and 19" front tires? Want to do a suspension upgrade looking for real world testing. Got my new RG3 in February. Needs a better suspension
Congrats on your new ride!
We have not ridden an RG3, but they have exactly the same size front and rear tires as the previous years CVO Trikes.
We have a lot of experience with those low profile tires...unfortunately they make an already rough riding OEM suspension even rougher because of lack of sidewalls that can give a little flex.
Here is a report on suspension testing, utilizing input from 6 different riders- www.dkcustomproducts.com/overview-of-performance-rear-shocks-98.htm
And here is a video of Trike Suspension testing, using a bump recorder (charts included) to show the differences between OEM shocks and good shocks- ua-cam.com/video/Z4Dhg48_KQA/v-deo.html
What seat is on the bike behind you??
I need something flatter like that.
The stock 2014 Tri Glide is too confining and very uncomfortable
The seat that is on the 2018 Softail behind Kevin and Dwayne in this video is a Street Bob seat. Thank you for commenting! MB
@@DKCustomProducts
Thanks
After I sent message I noticed it was a Softail
Be safe
Gotcha! I hope you find a seat that works well for you! Thank you for commenting! 👍 MB
I recomend Legon air ride, they are the best ride and adjustable on the fly. Know this is not what you guys are selling now but if you did make a air ride system it would be the best on the market because you guys do the research first. Great information.
Thanks, glad you found the video useful/interesting.
We are a dealer for Legend, and can certainly sell any of the Legend suspension components. Unfortunately air ride just does not give a quality ride like properly valved coil shocks.
We used to build air ride suspension for Baggers and Trikes that was adjustable on the fly. (called the MacAir)
There is a cool factor in being able to raise a bike up and drop it down when parking...and, of course, being able to adjust it to road and load conditions will enhance the quality, but even with on the fly adjustment, it is not close to the ride quality of good shocks.
Here is a comparison report on many of the popular shock options out there- www.dkcustomproducts.com/overview-of-performance-rear-shocks-98.htm
I was also told by my dealer that my '19 had the lift kit installed from the factory. Why would they say crap like that if it's not true? I mean, what possible good could come from lying about it?
They probably don't know they are not telling the truth. They probably think that since the ass end of the trike is no longer dragging/drooping that it must be because there is a lift kit installed.
*They don't know their product.*
The reason the 19 & later are not sitting low in the rear is because Harley changed to those awful coil over shocks that have no sag. Of course, it is physically impossible to have good ride quality out of a shock without at least 25% sag, preferably 30% sag.
@DKCustomProducts I'll give you that, it's like a rock
@@RedTickJJ Thanks man, we appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching our videos as well.
What year did HD take over the Trike production from Lehman Trike? Was the quality improved by HD from the original Lehman Trike in your opinion? If yes, please expand. Thank you.
HD took over production for the 2011 models.
The only difference between 2009-2010 models and 2011 models is the gearing. Harley changed pulleys to make the gearing just a little bit lower. A lot of folk appreciated the lower gearing, some not so much. Hard to please everyone.
Other than that I am not aware of any other changes in parts used.
As far as assembly of the parts...hard to say if Lehman or HD paid better attention in the process.
@@DKCustomProducts thank you. I have a customer with a 2010 Tri Glide Ultra Classic-surely that came out of the HD factory and not the Lehman factory, as you mentioned that the 2009-2010 Trikes were produced by Lehman.
There are many articles you can see with a google search that Lehman and Harley were partners for the 2009 & 2010 models. Here is a link to just one of them.
www.visordown.com/news/industry/harley-trikes-built-house-2011#:~:text=however%20Harley%20has%20said%20this,Harley%2DDavidson%20trikes%20since%202008.
Can I replace air shocks on a 2010 trike with regular shocks?
I am not sure what you mean by "regular shocks". For proper handling and comfort, the shocks should be designed for a Harley Trike.
We have 3 different shocks that we recommend for any Harley Trike, they can be seen at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/rear-shocks-c651-269.htm
Here's a video that you may find interesting/useful- ua-cam.com/video/vbU6fdtxjSI/v-deo.html
Always feel free to email or call us with any questions.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
What qualifies you guys to recommend changes to these trikes?
Are you guys mechanical engineers?
We ride, a lot. We have common sense, which, unfortunately is not too common, especially among engineers. (no offense to engineers reading this)
We also do extensive testing.
The process on the Trikes has been a long one, involving over a quarter million miles on various HD Trikes. Almost always when we are riding we are testing one or more parts. Some make it, some don't.
Here is a link to just one of our "torture tests", a ride to the Arctic Circle and back-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/acl/kevin-mary-s-ride-to-alaska-arctic-circle-and-back-2013.htm
Feel free to email or call with any questions:
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
Sag is always a factor. That's just a fact of life. 😂
😂
Your bangs are over you’re eyebrows homie? May wanna stop by “FLOYDS” before you make the next video
HAHA I know it man... I need a hair cut but have been a little busy lately. I wish we had a Floyds in our area. Thanks for watching