Do tyre particulates from an EV pollute more than the Exhaust Fumes from an ICE?

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  • @MrLeadb1
    @MrLeadb1 6 днів тому +20

    My local tyre guy told me that he is replacing tyres on EV's at 10,000-11,000 miles. Says his business is on the up with EV's.

    • @aaron___6014
      @aaron___6014 6 днів тому +1

      That's almost as bad as a motorcycle.

    • @iCozzh
      @iCozzh 6 днів тому +6

      Weight isnt everything, its the instant torque. If youve got good manufacturers like tesla then their cars are pretty much the same weight as their competitors. Ie the model 3 weighs about the same as the 3 series from bmw.

    • @iCozzh
      @iCozzh 6 днів тому +2

      @jgtemperton You quite a mellow driver? I tear through ps4s’s on my model S but its because I drive fast with harsh acceleration a lot. I’ll do a set in 6months, its nothing compared to the sets I went through when my Bmw m4 was my daily.

    • @JelloTypeR
      @JelloTypeR 6 днів тому +1

      @@iCozzhI used to slide my M3 about whenever it was safe to do so and I still got 15k out of MPSS and then PS5.

    • @iCozzh
      @iCozzh 5 днів тому +2

      @@JelloTypeR no idea how you managed that, i got 6k miles ish out of my m car. Even my s2000’s rears only last 6k miles but that car is driven at 9k rpm as much as possible

  • @paulnewman9275
    @paulnewman9275 5 днів тому +5

    My brother in laws Tesla munched through its £1500 tyres in 4000 miles...down to the cords. It's been proved over and over again most air pollution in UK cities has very little to do with exhausts.

  • @Andy-e8n7g
    @Andy-e8n7g 4 дні тому +1

    To be balanced Barrie I changed my front pads at over 100k on the Leaf and discs at the same just as a precaution. I'd charge to 100% every night so no regen at first that helped scrub the discs. I'll have to take a look but i can't remember doing the rears at all..

  • @carlmills-warren2012
    @carlmills-warren2012 4 дні тому +1

    Barrie, I have a theory as to why EV's are failing so miserably . Beyond the cost from new, which rules the majority of people out, as most people do not or have never bought a brand new car (due to expense). Beyond the current terrible residual values which massively increases the cost to lease & new/used pcp's (you're paying the difference, so if the financier predicts that to be a big number, which it has now been shown to be the case, the buyer has more to cover over the finance period).
    The biggest problem is the forced uptake. I'll give you a very comparable example.
    In the late 90's early noughties, mobile phones started to become very popular. We had all been used to a landline phone, with one line into the home and could only be used by one person at a time. This was the norm for all UK households, it's what we all knew. However, the mobile phone became an alternative that was now readily available to all. My memory as a late teen at the time, was that it quickly became adopted by my generation, as is quite often the case with new tech. All of a sudden you had a means to communicate with your friends beyond the phone in your lounge/kitchen for all to overhear, it was great. You could now send messages to one another when you weren't able to talk. This was quite the novelty. At the time this was a step forward in communication tech, but only marginally. There were still issues. You phone would need to be charged, however, that did tend to last a few days. The cost of use could be expensive if you went over your minutes/texts. And mainly and still not perfect even today, was whether you could even get any reception. All that being said, it was a step forward in tech compared to the good old landline phone in your home. Much like the EV, it is a small step in improved tech compared the ICE vehicles.
    The difference in these comparisons, is the uptake was never forced. No one made you have a mobile phone. I even remember my Dad, who was in his 50's at the time, professing, he'd never have a mobile phone. I imagine this was not a unique viewpoint at that point in time from older generations. But as we have seen, uptake grew over the years, mobile phones went from being a novelty to the norm. They went from ring and text to mini mobile computers and today everyone has one. This growth has come organically and has been helped along by the improvements in the technology. And even my Dad, who was adamant he'd never have or need one, eventually jumped on the bandwagon with the rest of the world.
    Now, back to my point about electric cars. It's the forced uptake which is killing things. Incentives etc are great. Why the hell not. They work. But forcing manufacturers to have to build and sell EVs is destined to fail. No one forced you to give up your landline phone, it has happened gradually and now you don't even need a landline except for WiFi in your home. If manufacturers were allowed to push EVs on their own terms, over time, people would likely move into them naturally and feel more inclined to do so, once the technology improves, and worries of reliability, charging infrastructure etc gets better.
    Ultimately, people are usually averse to change and having it forced upon you normally receives somewhat of a push back. This is definitely the case with EVs. Let's let it be an alternative that people can choose on their own terms. It would also give manufacturers opportunity to explore other tech such as synthetic fuels, hydrogen etc. Eventually people will naturally turn to the most convenient option and usually that is massively cost orientated.
    I appreciate there is a green agenda here and i'm all for that on the whole but lets be all in on that if we're going to go down that road. Not just cherry pick sectors such as personal vehicles. What about HGV's, airlines, ships etc. What about new homes - where are the solar panels, heat pumps etc.
    At the moment I feel the motor industry is in a real precarious position as their hand is being forced to sell a product people aren't ready for (and can't afford).
    RANT OVER :)

  • @MikeJones-mz5ig
    @MikeJones-mz5ig 2 дні тому +2

    Wow. Apparently petrol and diesel cars don't have tyres. Only EVs. Well done.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  2 дні тому

      well done for not understanding the video, that takes a whole new level, 😂

    • @paulnewman9275
      @paulnewman9275 День тому

      You failed the very basic IQ test , dear god ....

  • @overland_adventure_nz
    @overland_adventure_nz 5 днів тому +4

    Keep up your honest balanced look into electric vehicles and petrol diesel.
    Electrics only a stopgap and not the future of transport in the world.
    I’m glad our government down under has realised the stupidity of the last government and stopped the overtaxing of diesel vehicles and subsidising electric vehicles.
    There needs to be a major review into some of these people pushing electric vehicles onto the public making them trying to think it’s the future.
    It would be better for the environment just to get a whole lot of cash out and burn it then buying an electric vehicle .

    • @eddewhurst7662
      @eddewhurst7662 2 дні тому

      Honest and balanced my arse!

    • @overland_adventure_nz
      @overland_adventure_nz 2 дні тому

      Hi @ we don’t need to know that you’ve got a problem with your arse!
      Can I suggest you go and see your local GP and ask them to help with the Balance of your arse or more politely? Should I say the Balance of one’s bum?
      If you think you know more than it’s actually factual in this video then I think you need to have a brain surgeon. Investigate yourself.
      Being an engineer by trade myself, I totally agree with his balanced points. Evie’s put up more pollutant in micro particles than most non-EV vehicles as they have less power to accelerate off one’s line and the tire manufacture means they do far more milage per tire replacement.
      Think about what you’re saying next time and have a good night, mate

  • @MsWagons
    @MsWagons 6 днів тому +4

    As a trick driver of 35 plus years. I am well aware of the impact of weight on any vehicle. Any extra weight has a massive impact on tyires brakes mpg and handling. Just of instance most uk 44t wagon units have 3 axles this extra axle weights 750 kg approx the uk are the only country in europe who insist on this this means that every load is 750kg lighter than it could be. It also means that it is also 750kg heavy er than it needs to for its entire life

  • @MrChriss000
    @MrChriss000 5 днів тому +11

    The luton airport fire was caused by the hybrid battery, you can see the blow torch like flames in the phone footage.

    • @SDK2006b
      @SDK2006b 3 дні тому +1

      That was a pure diesel car, this info was available the day it happened. A year later you're still spouting incorrect 'hybrid' comments 🤣🤣
      There is no hope !

    • @MrChriss000
      @MrChriss000 3 дні тому

      @@SDK2006b Google the fone footage.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq 3 дні тому

      What car was on fire? Easy to google to see if the diesel is a mild hybrid.

    • @MrChriss000
      @MrChriss000 3 дні тому

      @@AndrewTSq Easy to go watch the footage.
      There was no info available at the time btw, you are lying about that.

    • @mdshovel
      @mdshovel 3 дні тому

      It was the high pressure fuel line. It was not a Hybrid and no known EVs in the car park at all

  • @GrahamNewman-mq7gr
    @GrahamNewman-mq7gr 6 днів тому +4

    Another point "PEOPLE WILL NOT CHECK TYRE PRESSURUE " ( Company car drivers the worst ). EVs are generally HEAVIER and tyre pressures are higher to carry the extra weight. Some of the examples look like pressure created isues .

  • @paulnewman9275
    @paulnewman9275 День тому +1

    New electric Mini is 1.6 tonnes - absolute madness !!!

  • @TimothyClaypole
    @TimothyClaypole 6 днів тому +8

    Putting Quintin Wilson in authority over motoring is like putting a schoolgirl in authority over fossil fuel usage...

  • @christinehede7578
    @christinehede7578 5 днів тому +2

    All cars and trucks put particulates into the environment. I am not an EV fan and will never own or drive one.

  • @SWLW436
    @SWLW436 5 днів тому +1

    I like the reviews of the tyres etc from MOT history check 😂 Keep calling them out!
    Would like to hear your views on the latest FCA / car finance debacle and VW layoffs.
    The motortrade headwinds continue….

  • @goansunborn
    @goansunborn 5 днів тому

    I live in Oslo, originally from London. I compared the Pm2.5 and Pm10 stats from both cities which are publically available. Generally there has been a gradual reduction in both levels over the last 12 years or so for both cities which i put down to cars in general becoming 'cleaner'. Oslo is interesting because most cars these days are EV's. What i did not see in Oslo was a sharp drop in these numbers which is what you would have expected, especially in the last 5 years where there have been so many purchased. So my take from it is that cars are cleaner overall in the last 10 years and a switch to EV's hardly changes these stats within cities. Most likely it is from other things like construction work, tyres and other debris. To note No2 was down more in Oslo compared to London but again, no sharp drop.

  • @paulnewman9275
    @paulnewman9275 День тому

    Mates EV just written off as he scraped the kerb leaving his drive ..dented the battery cage ...Was a £40k Tesla when he bought it not long before the incident, insurance paid him £18k.

  • @SDK2006b
    @SDK2006b 3 дні тому +1

    Old guy rants at the cloud 🤣

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  3 дні тому

      Ageist moron rants at old guy who says things that are true but he doesn't like them, how pathetic you really are, heres a tip for you, to be old and wise first you must be young and stupid!

  • @garryhills8648
    @garryhills8648 5 днів тому +1

    Looks like they can’t afford to have a EV if they can’t afford new tyres
    Barrie

  • @mdshovel
    @mdshovel 3 дні тому

    My diesel Jaguar weighed more than my last or current EV and the tyre wear was around the same on all three at 40k miles to minimum.

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 5 днів тому

    Which part of fuel desulphurisation uses lithium? Pray tell us more.

  • @AndyK.1
    @AndyK.1 5 днів тому +1

    Sound is poorer on this one?

  • @gregvanpaassen
    @gregvanpaassen 6 днів тому

    For parking garage owners tyre particulates are a minor worry. China's the main EV market, and Chinese hotels and other businesses are starting to ban EVs from using their underground parking garages. EV fires may or may not be rare but they are so hot that they damage the reinforced concrete, and normal sprinkler systems can't put them out. I don't think I've heard you mention that one, Bas.
    So what are we going to do? Cover our cities in open-air flat parking lots, with wide spaces and wide separation from the neighbouring properties? Very green, that. Well, maybe they can put green dye in the asphalt.

  • @geoffreycoley846
    @geoffreycoley846 6 днів тому +1

    i think autotrader needs too read their own publication

  • @andrewogg3125
    @andrewogg3125 6 днів тому +8

    EV cars are just a shit show… Not in my lifetime…,just wait until next year after this budget! Shameful!

    • @TimothyClaypole
      @TimothyClaypole 6 днів тому +3

      @jgtemperton Overpriced invalid carriages.

    • @ericevans6382
      @ericevans6382 5 днів тому

      It's taken 50 years to make ice cars worse. bev may not be the answer, if that is true then tell me what is the answer?

    • @andrewogg3125
      @andrewogg3125 5 днів тому

      @jgtemperton the shit show is that you EV owners have caused the motor manufacturers to brink of bankruptcy…its about time you actually owned up to the damage these electric vehicles are causing… and it gets worse… once you have killed the industry only china will make them… can you see yourself driving a fake electric car from china then…

  • @AllenHart999
    @AllenHart999 5 днів тому +1

    I watch all your videos with interest, just gone onto X to follow you and see you have blocked me. 😂😂😂

    • @AndyK.1
      @AndyK.1 5 днів тому +1

      What did u say 😂

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999 5 днів тому

      @ no idea. I must of disagreed on something. lol.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  5 днів тому +1

      What is you name on x?

  • @MikeJones-mz5ig
    @MikeJones-mz5ig День тому +1

    Misinformation is easy to spot.
    Myth: Heavy EVs cause bad air quality
    But in cities, where the people are breathing the air and where they're closer to the traffic, vehicles move slowly and hardly wear their tyres. So tyre particulate emissions matter less than on faster roads - at least from the point of view of lung health.4 Mar 2024

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  День тому

      if you dont wear them out, they just crack and perish😂

  • @EwanM11
    @EwanM11 6 днів тому +2

    It depends on what you think is important. A tank of fuel is about 60kg and that is entirely consumed going about 500 miles.
    My EV weighs about 1800 kgs and replaced my previous car which weighed 1600kg. Not much in it if you ask me. My tires have done at least 28000 miles and gave a lot more tread than my wife's ICE which has done 20000 miles..

    • @petergardner5002
      @petergardner5002 6 днів тому +1

      Weight of fuel goes down as you drive but not in an EV

    • @EwanM11
      @EwanM11 5 днів тому +1

      @@petergardner5002 my point was that car tires weigh about 10kg when they are new and weigh about the same when they are worn out. So the mass of tire pollution is negligible next to burnt fuel. But it doesn't really matter because the difference in wear isn't a big deal compared to other factors.
      It stands to reason that there will be more particles from shredded rubber than from burnt fuel. A good modern diesel had hardly any particulates and they are the worst offenders. Also the shredded rubber particles are mostly rubber. Which is a different problem made insignificantly worse by EVs.

    • @joeharris3810
      @joeharris3810 5 днів тому

      What sort of

    • @douglasb.5601
      @douglasb.5601 5 днів тому +1

      That's because your wife's boyfriend drives it like a man! 👍🏻😎
      😂

  • @sm400
    @sm400 5 днів тому +1

    Your talking rubbish for views....for a long time I drove a Sprinter that with toolbox,compressor,generator and on weekends a dirtbike in the back went 2.7 tonnes.....and it didn't wear tyres out particularly and create particles...😂😂😂...one day in track day car or bike and tyres finished....

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  5 днів тому +2

      Sure that’s what I’m doing, and the trade papers reporting it are doing that too 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @EinkOLED
    @EinkOLED 5 днів тому

    Poor road conditions are to blame.

  • @Fred-gu6pk
    @Fred-gu6pk 5 днів тому +1

    4 miles Barry, maybe a bicycle would be cheaper?

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  5 днів тому +1

      Sometimes I walk but normally I carry a lot of camera equipment

  • @jcfallows
    @jcfallows 5 днів тому

    There are a lot of poor tyres for sale. Drivers don't look after their tyres do they?
    If you buy an EV use the recommended tyres my Zoe uses the Michelin Premacy 4 the car is 3.5 years old 18500 miles still have 4mm on the fronts, 5mm on the back.
    The brake pads are 75% but the back discs are feeling a bit liney and rusty around the circumference. The Zoe has a built in tyre pressure monitor as do most cars. Everyone should check the tyres every week and pick the stones out of the treads. If you don't you are a danger to everyone on the roads. Don't wait until bad tracking runs your tyres get it checked every six months or immediately if the steering is pulling either way.

  • @martinsoelby5902
    @martinsoelby5902 6 днів тому +1

    According to my local tier pusher business has gone up the past years.
    The most heavy footed costumers goes through a set of 20” in a season.
    I’ll bet that people failing at MOT with their EV also failed with their ICE car.

  • @Trevor_Austin
    @Trevor_Austin 5 днів тому

    “…are the fastest selling”? Really? That is an abstract value unless it has some context. I could sell untreated dog poo as a garden fertiliser given a large enough incentive.
    Tyre wear? What are the factors? Tyre materials, weight, speed, pressure, tread pattern, acceleration demands, cornering loads, deformation etc. and possibly the largest of all, constant regenerative braking.

  • @gavinwhite9743
    @gavinwhite9743 5 днів тому +1

    Do 4x4s tyre particulates cause problems? They weigh more. My Polestar did 25k on front tyres, rear tyres still have 5mm (it’s front wheel drive) Arguments like this is why people who oppose EVs sound like idiots. No other word for it. Lack of charging infrastructure is a real issue. Cobalt mining? Suddenly petrol drivers are worried ? Clowns. Look at wars fought over oil supplies. Oil rig disasters. Oil spill disasters. And suddenly you are worried? Stick to some of the real issues. When jackonary and fantasy are used, it undermines the debate. The oil industry have spent billions on misinformation, it’s a shame gullible people lap it up. More break dust? Hang on, breaks are not used enough causing corrosion on breaks due to one pedal driving. It can’t work both ways. Am I an ev evangelist. I couldn’t care less what you drive, the petrol pumps subsidise tax nicely. I just opt to pay less tax. And laugh at the gullibility of people buying into these articles.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  5 днів тому +2

      Do children and women fight wars ?

    • @daveb2wright
      @daveb2wright 5 днів тому

      It's Brake not break! Struggle with English do you?

    • @gavinwhite9743
      @gavinwhite9743 5 днів тому +2

      @@BarrieCramptonno, but they do die in them. Iran Iraq war. Gulf war. Kuwaiti invasion. Falklands war. Chaco war. There were 25k collateral damage on US invasion of Iraq alone, when the oil fields were secured. How many wars have been fought over Cobalt?

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  5 днів тому +1

      @gavinwhite9743 that was just oil was it?

    • @daveb2wright
      @daveb2wright 5 днів тому

      @@gavinwhite9743 you have a very simplistic view of the world. All about BIG oil is it?

  • @eddewhurst7662
    @eddewhurst7662 6 днів тому +3

    Barrie thinks more EVs than ICE cars fail because of tyre problems, he says he can't believe it. Learn to read and comprehend before jumping to silly conclusions.

    • @BarrieCrampton
      @BarrieCrampton  6 днів тому +13

      ha you left the comment before you could have even watched the video, premature much? learn to listen before you jump the gun in future, you just shown yourself up for what you are an EV Fanboy 30 negative comments on my videos and counting, give it a rest

    • @ericevans6382
      @ericevans6382 5 днів тому

      Barries book of how to gain friends and influence people 😂😂